“Truth? You can't handle the truth!”

[Theblazeuk]

I go away for a few days and now I have a lot of TRUTH to catch up on. Capitals certainly required.

Tis all a bit sad. A friend of mine was convinced that a lass at his uni was a CIA sleeper agent. And then that he'd seen black vans outside his house. All because he's a self-purported communist. But really he's just a rebellious pseudo-politico who has a tendency towards massive paranoia, and the weed wasn't helping with that.

So... best just to try and chill out while you can. They're not out to get you. The scary truth is that you probably don't even register.

[M.I.K.]

On the other hand, a few years back my brother became convinced that for weeks he was being followed around and spied on by someone, and it turned out he really was - by the Department of Work & Pensions, who'd been wrongly informed he was working while claiming benefits. God knows how much money they wasted pointlessly following him up and down the countryside.

[Jim_Campbell]

On the other hand, a few years back my brother became convinced that for weeks he was being followed around and spied on by someone, and it turned out he really was

Many years ago, our then-lodger invited an acquaintance round to our house who turned out to be a local heroin dealer. He was charming company, and a very pleasant evening was had by all. The following day, and for a week thereafter, we had two plain clothes police officers in an unmarked car parked opposite our house dutifully, and quite visibly, making notes of everyone entering and leaving the house.

Since our recreational drugs of choice at that time were Golden Virginia and cheap ASDA red wine, we weren't overly worried by this and after a couple of days took to waving cheerily at them as we went to, and returned from, our perfectly respectable jobs. After a week, they apparently got bored and transferred their attentions elsewhere.

[JayzusB.Christ]

'Just because I'm paranoid...'

[Apoceclipse]

I'll reply in-line:



- While I don't doubt that certain things go on behind closed doors, I have trouble believing what you are saying.

Fair enough - this type of statement is your right, I have no problem with that.



- They allegedly made you eat skin! To what end? How does it link to brain washing?

That was just the beginning. I was too young to remember that part, and it is very very mild. For one, this is known as trauma based mind control. If you studied enough psychology, in this specific area, you may be able to actually understand the some of the process that takes place throughout the course of it. Other than the trauma, there were a few things that we beneficial for the process overall. The aim is always to LAYER in purpose. And to keep the purpose, UNDER layers.

Desensitizing. Training (mortician apprentice, to learn about cause of death, anatomy, etc etc)

Also, once they torture you into having a split personality, there is a dichotomy they look to create. As I child, I was raised ultra strict, ultra religious - think AMISH. Not amish, but just giving you an idea of the discipline involved.

So my 'daytime personality' was all good, etc. and my 'nighttime' personality was raised to eat flesh. In part, for the missions in the future to be self motivating/rewarding for my alter/nighttimepersonality, and also to keep my personalities so completely different, that they not only could not identify with each other, but would literally be so different that would repulse one another...

That might sound crazy to you, but it kept me in a daze and completely oblivious to having a personality. We are talking through waking up with slight injuries and everything, missing food in the fridge - sleep eating, I just knew it, was no problem ever. I might, I just never knew people could have split personalities. I thought I had never even heard of it (early 2000's when this started coming up... I am now around 30).



- You've claimed that hundreds of people have gone through the same process as yourself but you're all walking around freely, openly discussig how the C.I.A/Goverment have allegedly mind-Fucked you.

Actually I TOLD you - you just think I claimed. Then you go inserting assumptions into a question. Falling off already.

There you go right there. If you want dialogue, and answers, this is not the right route to go, talking like this...

Keep in mind, some people talk, but to be able to actually articulate methods like I do - not many are able, not many at all. So some of what I say, is kind of 'rare' to read about. Believe it or not. At least bunched together. If you spent more time reading what I had already posted, you would not have to ask some of these questions, you know...

There are not as many successes as they would like. Most subjects that are not already generational military/intelligence, are not successful. Military/Intelligence families have the best chance from day one, to not be 'ruined' by this - as they are already 'in the system', and will be right there with the 'friendly technology' which is mostly electromagnetic cranial stimulation (koren helmet), ECT (shock treatment), and 'psychic driving' - which is repeat tape recording, also with split video/audio (Dr. Narut style improved upon) matched to emotional stimulation from the koren helmet. Then military video games/simulations (look up CUBIC) from as early as they are able.

The rest is branched out for plausible deniability, to local cults (stupid word, but accurate, just not what people think of when they think cult - more of a disciplined network) etc, after all the legal mess they went through, they had to step back, and keep this thing quiet.

Now they make tons of movies and stuff about it, like it's a joke - American Ultra - stuff like that. I watch em all, just to see, but it messes with me. Ridiculous.

Walking around freely huh? This would take too long to explain the problems I have had, where I am at now, and what all is going on, and would expose my person. I did previously mention steering this away from me personally, but am trying to reply. Don't assume, ok? If you are asking at the same time. Very rude.

We are not all walking around freely openly discussing this, not at all, and there are casualties for talking about certain specifics. Rules, of course - and I am on a comic book forum, where no one knows who I am, or even believes, let alone would care enough to do anything, or actually make a difference in trying - SO. Even if my person was exposed, still, what would it matter, unless I expose key elements - or COULD, but they would prelude that with termination as well.

Maybe I am already sick and dying of cancer or something. Maybe I still work for them too, on top of that. Maybe who cares, what is the difference for what anyone says, if no one listens or acts. So... think about the world for a minute, ok?

Maybe I am not, but maybe I am - it's the point, you understand? Let's steer this away from me eh?



- Why are there no reprisals? I've known your governing authorities take a hard line stance over much less!

WOW, really? Why are there no reprisals? Why do you think that there are no reprisals? That is the most ridiculous statement/question yet... THERE ARE - THAT'S YOUR ANSWER



- What is your take on Bin Laden and September 11th? Is he likely to have been brainwashed or was he just a Cunt!

don't know much, don't care



- Did we ever land in the moon or is it complete Horseshoe?

you don't think we can go to the moon at this day and age? the 'original one'? I don't care, if your answer again.



- Is the Earth flat?

WHAT? If you are serious right now, I can't tell.



- Do you believe in God?

None of your business



-Answer or ignore at your leisure, convince me that I'm missing the point somehow.

Convince you that you are missing the point? Well generally you can't change a person, nor do I expect/want to - I just say and think what I do - and you do the same, ok? Choose your own adventure buddy.



- Cheers

Yeah have a real good day 

[Apoceclipse]

NapalmKev - I'd like to address a couple of your points.


Lack of reprisals, then, is not necessarily an indication that nothing untoward happened or is happening.

Secondly, conflating Bin Laden, 9/11, the moon landings, flat Earth and the existence of God into the argument has no bearing on the topic at hand. All this argument does is throw out a smokescreen and attempt to condemn Apoceclipse's arguments through guilt by association. We all know there are many wild and unreasonable theories concerning Bin Laden, 9/11, the moon landings, flat Earth and the existence of God, and an attempt to drop Apoceclipse's claims into the same bag is an attempt to dismiss them en mass. Each claim must be assessed on its own individual merits.

Are you suggesting that I asked those questions just to take the Piss? If so, you assume too much!

I'm under the impression (perhaps wrongly) that Apoceclipse is the sort of guy that latches onto (possible) conspiracy theories to find some sort of peace within himself and find answers to questions that he has. This train of thought led me down the path to inquire further on Apoceclipse beliefs and if he has any evidence to support it!

I only took the piss with my 'Cluedo' comment, and that didn't bother him or you it seems!

Cheers

are you serious right now?

bother him or you it seems? I hadn't even replied yet

if you get caught pulling a BS stunt, at least man up and own up to is. Get out of here with this childishness

[Hawkmumbler]

Your attitude will avail you none, sir.

[Apoceclipse]

I go away for a few days and now I have a lot of TRUTH to catch up on. Capitals certainly required.

Tis all a bit sad. A friend of mine was convinced that a lass at his uni was a CIA sleeper agent. And then that he'd seen black vans outside his house. All because he's a self-purported communist. But really he's just a rebellious pseudo-politico who has a tendency towards massive paranoia, and the weed wasn't helping with that.

So... best just to try and chill out while you can. They're not out to get you. The scary truth is that you probably don't even register.

Did I talk about someone following me? If anyone was following me, I would approach them with haste, as long as I didn't think that discharge of a firearm would be imminent...

You must've missed the bit where I was talking about waking up in the hospital, what I had told my girlfriend, what I had told my friends, catching myself on camera, getting caught up in classified legal cases, and um - working as a damn commando for the 160th. I don't think anything, I lived it.

Call me a liar if you wish, I could care less - but suggesting that I am just paranoid? Fool, I got caught up in a black ops human trafficking scandal where my superior officer was corrupt, and we were on unsanctioned 'missions' that when I found out about the real nature/basis thereof, I went rogue on the spot, and was almost killed shortly thereafter. Other did lose their life that night. Then I sat in prison with fake charges for a while. Don't come at me with some ' I think this ' or ' paranoid that'. Man up, call me a liar, or don't. Trying to sprinkle in something ridiculous - if you read what was actually written.

Tsk tsk

[Apoceclipse]

Your attitude will avail you none, sir.

It's working just fine for me so far. 

[Apoceclipse]

See, people bunch everything up so tight, and just assume, from whatever there standpoint is. You guys think I never chose to do this, at any point? There is much more to this than 'brainwashing a mind controlled manchurian candidate'... I have been talking about grooming special forces operatives (not only field operatives, mind you, we need tech specialists and everything else) from young. You are missing the bigger picture than if one person is full of shit. It's a dirty world out there, this, some of you may have had a taste of. Well, you didn't get to bite right into the shit, trust me 

[COMMANDO FORCES]

Tell us about one of the ops you went on! I'm quite interested to hear how you went about everything, right down to the minutest of details.

[Apoceclipse]

Tell us about one of the ops you went on! I'm quite interested to hear how you went about everything, right down to the minutest of details.

i want to answer this like 10 different ways, and I usually do that to people's questions, as you may have noticed.

short answer is, I feel I would take too much time, suffer too much internal grief, and also open me up for personal attack. also the ops themselves were/are classified... I am not really into leaking classified information here... that is generally a no-no. so, in a way, the actual content I present is nothing new... we know this sort of thing took place a while ago, as the declassified MK ULTRA documents showed us, the thing is, for people to think it stopped... doesn't make sense. I am just saying some of the same old - just reminding people it didn't go away by itself. the reports on the subject? where did they go?

I am trying to steer this away from me, however, if you are very interested, and sincere, not looking for an angle of attack - shoot me a PM with an e-mail, and I can tell you some specifics of something that happened, when I went rogue when I found out my superiors were really into trafficking humans in the worst way, based out of the strip club (of course). thats a teaser for everybody else - I don't want to go in depth here. but, I already mentioned it earlier when some guy was talking nonsense about vague paranoia...

[NapalmKev]

"Get out of here with this childishness"

Yes, Apoceclipse; quite obviously I'm the silly one here for questioning the  validty of your dubious claims!

[TordelBack]

...your dubious claims!

He's not claiming anything Kev, he's telling you. And I'm afraid that attitude is what makes it hard for me to read Apoceclipse's posts in anything resembling a sympathetic manner. For all that they are interesting.

[Hawkmumbler]

Have to agree, it's all way too sterile, too polished to be entirely convincing.