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for you all, game geeks, here 100 list of Greatest Game Of All Time from Empireonline.com

start at 100,

//http://www.empireonline.com/100greatestgames/default.asp?p=100

Err... that top 20 is seriously flawed... in my world anyway... Those FF games are pure guff especially the "famous" fighting system

"Ok, I'm a smurf, that's interesting... Right...I want to smite that guy"
"You have to wait your turn"
"I have to what?"
"He smites you, then it's your turn"
"...Whaddaya mean, my turn?"
"Right, he's done, you're up"

"...That was it?"
"Yep"
"Now what?"
"It's his turn again"
"Tell you what, where's Resident Evil?"

Best game of all time for me was Doctors and Nurses with Samantha Eccleston behind the bikesheds at primary school...

The greatest game ever is in fact Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. The most overrated game ever is in fact Bioshock.

YES - Bioshock....over rated!

Given how bad these lists usually are and how they often forget that videogames existed prior to 1995, this isn't too bad an effort. Bit of a shame to see how many utterly iconic and still brilliant arcade games aren't included, though, such as Robotron.

QuoteBest game of all time for me was Doctors and Nurses with Samantha Eccleston behind the bikesheds at primary school

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good morning legnedary shark! a coffee over the screen moment there. thankyou. perfect way to being the day.  

as with all lists, they are personal,
but i would agree with many of the included, i am not an RPG lover, but the inclusions here are valid,
the shooters, all correct, COD4 and MSG, DOOM ,HL2 cant disagree with them. golden eye,given its realease date.

whilst i may have given a higher mark to sum. and lower to others, pretty tight i would say.
they dont seem to have offered much sports titles i felt. should have been one or two in top ten.

Not a bad list and certainly better than this http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3700 (http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3700) in my opinion which seems to be mostly Mario and Zelda, although no top 10 yet.

No Fallout 3 on that list?

No Jet Pack, no Manic Miner/Jet Set Willie, no Knight Lore, no Lords Of Midnight.

These games kept me awake all night at times, something not one of the games on that list has ever done. (except maybe Elite).

Kids these days, eh!

Quote from: "Uncle Umpty"No Jet Pack, no Manic Miner/Jet Set Willie, no Knight Lore, no Lords Of Midnight.

Try going back now and seeing which of those are still good. Writing for Retro Gamer, I get something of a new perspective on old games, and, frankly, most of them don't hold up terribly well. Jet Set Willy, for example, is an utterly hateful platform game, with few redeeming features. Lords of Midnight, on the other hand, is still a surprisingly immersive game, despite the basic presentation. (One might argue Dungeon Master's inclusion kind of filled the 'retro RPG' slot, though.)

LIke I said, though, it is a shame to see so few representations from the classic arcade era. In this case, there were some mid-1980s–1990s games (Gauntlet, a sprinkling of Amiga titles), and lip service paid to classic home computing via the likes of Elite, but omitting the likes of Robotron and Pac-Man is just crazy. (From my standpoint, Missile Command and Defender should absolutely make any top-100 list.)

And just remembered R-Type. Surely worth a place?

Not a bad list, but obviously I disagree with a lot of it, which is inevitable. Mainly I hate that any Greatest Games Ever list can sometimes have a very Nintendo-biased top ten. Granted, Nintendo have a lot of classics under their belt, but it just seems like you can tell when they person compiling the list is a bit Mario/Zelda-mad. Also, COD4 in the top ten? I enjoyed it and everything, but given what else is out there I doubt I'd let it near my top 50.

That list is in no way definitive as there is an obvious Nintendo bias and like was said above it omits the 80s arcade era .Its not objective.

Is there any reason why the list cant be read before you click on one of them to read about it ?You have to click on a number to find out what game it is which is stupid.

I dont see how or why i am expected to take this list seriously.

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Quote from: "Uncle Umpty"No Jet Pack, no Manic Miner/Jet Set Willie, no Knight Lore, no Lords Of Midnight.

Try going back now and seeing which of those are still good. Writing for Retro Gamer, I get something of a new perspective on old games, and, frankly, most of them don't hold up terribly well. Jet Set Willy, for example, is an utterly hateful platform game, with few redeeming features. Lords of Midnight, on the other hand, is still a surprisingly immersive game, despite the basic presentation. (One might argue Dungeon Master's inclusion kind of filled the 'retro RPG' slot, though.)

LIke I said, though, it is a shame to see so few representations from the classic arcade era. In this case, there were some mid-1980s–1990s games (Gauntlet, a sprinkling of Amiga titles), and lip service paid to classic home computing via the likes of Elite, but omitting the likes of Robotron and Pac-Man is just crazy. (From my standpoint, Missile Command and Defender should absolutely make any top-100 list.)

Jet Pac... I never played a game as much as I played that, but Knight Lore has to be the number one game... the whole set up was brilliant... changing to wolf in moonlight (with different abilities I think) IN 3D!.. it was the first game I ever made a physical map of... drawn out on an a3 sheet of paper, just brilliant.

Also.. you are compleatly wrong about Jet Set Willy... a hateful platform game! The shame, I loved it.

But agreed on Robotron and pac man and defender and missile command... although I preferred Llamatron!

Also again... every Bitmap Brothers game has to be in any top 100.

And what about The Hobbit! What a fantastic game on the Spectrum... I finished it with 89%... left those dwarfs behind in the barrels, but killed the dragon!

Nah. He's right about Jet Set Willy. I never liked it and trying to figure out the right password with a black and white photocopy of the real sheet was a mug's game.

The thing that always annoys me about these lists is the total blanking of the arcades. There never has been and never will be a computer game as utterly perfect as R-Type.

I dont know who specifically compiles these lists but i think i can guess their age demographic by their choices of games.

They probably arent old enough to have played games like Defender or Robotron in arcades so their experience of gaming was playing at home on their shitty little Nintendos and PCs instead and its sour grapes which is why they blank out an entire generation of games.

Empire Magazine.

They do this every year .

 

Well, honestly, no doubt that Super Mario World is on the top. It's one of the most played games even in the earlier times of gaming. And close on the 2nd place is Final Fantasy VII. It's the best FF game around

Manic miner for the speccy. Eugene's lair always used to frustrate me.
Cant forget Starquake. first game I properly completed without pokes or cheats.







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I loved the Hobbit on the C64,one of my all time favorite games ! i never finished it though , i too killed Smaug the dragon but kept getting killed in Mirkwood on my way home !

Quote from: "SteveMillar"I loved the Hobbit on the C64,one of my all time favorite games ! i never finished it though , i too killed Smaug the dragon but kept getting killed in Mirkwood on my way home !

Is it a game based off Lord of the Rings?

Having noted that Elite wasn't in the top ten, I judged that it was not my kind of list and stopped reading.

Quote from: "TordelBack"Having noted that Elite wasn't in the top ten, I judged that it was not my kind of list and stopped reading.

What kind of game is Elite? An FPS?

Ahh, the youth of today...  Never to know the responsive roll of a Cobra Mk II, the welcome screech of an ECM, to experience the joy of running 30 tons of computers into a Tech Level 2 Anarchy, and to finally (FINALLY) buy that bloody Docking Computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(computer_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(computer_game))

Cobra Mark III, you charlatan!

Even if you were playing the sequel(s), you could never fly a Cobra Mark II because, if memory serves, they didn't exist. Some fault with the prototype, or such.

Rumour has it that Elite 4 is due in the next few years. Criminy.

Au contraire, mon frere:

http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Cobra_ ... 8Oolite%29 (http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Cobra_Mk.2_%28Oolite%29)


Yeah, yeah, it's a mod for the awesome time-vortex that is Oolite, and I'm wriggling before your infinitely superior memory...

This is what gaming is all about.
How's that even possible? (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-zSi0xt9fY)

Quote from: "TordelBack"Ahh, the youth of today...  Never to know the responsive roll of a Cobra Mk II, the welcome screech of an ECM, to experience the joy of running 30 tons of computers into a Tech Level 2 Anarchy, and to finally (FINALLY) buy that bloody Docking Computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(computer_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(computer_game))

Oh. That's it. Thanks for the info.
Honestly, this is only the first time I have heard this game. And as far as I read, it was released on 1984 so I didn't knew it. I was born in 1988.

DIZZY NO1 for life

Max Payne FTW.

QuoteAnd close on the 2nd place is Final Fantasy VII. It's the best FF game around

except it isn't that honour goes to Final fantasy VI

It's all a matter of taste.  But in terms of series, I think FF & MGS have to have a place.  Although back in the day I was a huge fan of Last Ninja and Elite.  They don't make 'em like that anymore.

And my favourite ff games, whilst I loved VII & VI (in that order) would have to be X or VIII

Quoteby TordelBack on Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:47 am
Having noted that Elite wasn't in the top ten, I judged that it was not my kind of list and stopped reading.

That must be recent listing.

Quoteby Judge Man on Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:54 am
TordelBack wrote:Having noted that Elite wasn't in the top ten, I judged that it was not my kind of list and stopped reading.

What kind of game is Elite? An FPS?

In a way, techically it is. But it's more commonly known as a non-linear, space flight/combat and trader simulation. Famous for illusion of depth while in spaceflight and 3d vector graphic. One of the best. A award winner.

Quoteby TordelBack on Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:28 pm
Ahh, the youth of today... Never to know the responsive roll of a Cobra Mk II, the welcome screech of an ECM, to experience the joy of running 30 tons of computers into a Tech Level 2 Anarchy, and to finally (FINALLY) buy that bloody Docking Computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(computer_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(computer_game))

Quoteby SamuelAWilkinson on Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:53 pm
Cobra Mark III, you charlatan!

Even if you were playing the sequel(s), you could never fly a Cobra Mark II because, if memory serves, they didn't exist. Some fault with the prototype, or such.

Rumour has it that Elite 4 is due in the next few years. Criminy.

Without the Instruction manual or the Elite Wiki entry in front of me, that is beyond my knowledge for the time being....

Concerning your rumor. That game has been promiced for ages. There was supposed to be big fan based game that as indevepment. It supposed to be huge and I think they were trying for a online version as well. I'm not sure if it was closed down or down or was last time I checked. I 'm not sure if the one your talking about is the same or a offical relase. Now I think Elite Four is just vapour ware. I recall the offical sequel Frontier and regret never buying it. --Back in those days I didn't buy games as much I do now.--As it expanded on the original, yet I heard it was limited in other ways. You land on planets and without the tedious docking manuevors involving the orbital stations in the original game. Then there "First Encounters" which I haven't even seen, but it was suposed to be the most science/physics based game with it's newtonian laws and that why it was eventually recalled. It was so damn realistic, That it made the game unenjoyable, unplayable and incredibly buggy.     Since then, there have een a few version that youy could download and play on your PC and then now there there's Oolit. Which is seems likt much the Elite game fans have been waiting for. Despite downloading this one myself. I haven't played it enough or taken advantage of the MODS that add alot of variety and uniquiness. I haven't patient enought to use these however. I guess I have moved on from this game. More interested in the RTS's, MORG's Playstation games, like the GTA series and now I also playing Spore.  

Quoteby TordelBack on Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:02 pm
Au contraire, mon frere:

http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Cobra_ (http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Cobra_) ... 8Oolite%29

Yeah, yeah, it's a mod for the awesome time-vortex that is Oolite, and I'm wriggling before your infinitely superior

That explains your supposed inaccuracy, which wouldn't have been something I 'd even picked up on until Samuel Wilkinson did. Cobra Mark Two, or Mark Three. I wasn't even sure why Braben and Bell skipped over that one in their development of the game.

So ypou've been playing Oolite. Inotioced the MODs, some are pretty far featched. Have found the Orbotil Monastary? I was looking at and thinking if I had more patience. That Oolite game has turned out to be more interesting than I first realised.

Quoteby Judge Man on Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:44 am
TordelBack wrote:Ahh, the youth of today... Never to know the responsive roll of a Cobra Mk II, the welcome screech of an ECM, to experience the joy of running 30 tons of computers into a Tech Level 2 Anarchy, and to finally (FINALLY) buy that bloody Docking Computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(computer_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(computer_game))
Oh. That's it. Thanks for the info.
Honestly, this is only the first time I have heard this game. And as far as I read, it was released on 1984 so I didn't knew it. I was born in 1988.

Twenty one years, now I feel old.

Quoteby mikegloady on Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:33 pm
It's all a matter of taste. But in terms of series, I think FF & MGS have to have a place. Although back in the day I was a huge fan of Last Ninja and Elite. They don't make 'em like that anymore.

And my favourite ff games, whilst I loved VII & VI (in that order) would have to be X or VIII

Another fan.

Just re-reading the Elite  Wikipdeia entry. I noticed that the gaming company Frontier Developments ( Headed by one of the former pair of developers for Elite. David Braben) are working on a game called The Ousider. Described as a emmercive game where the actions of the chracter you control changes the outcome of the gmae. Yeah, I think thsi has been done before, many times. Sound abit like the seeling picth for "Fable". But in thsi game you are in the real world as the CIA agent called -- would you beleive - Jameson. The same name used as the default Commander in Elite. Anyway, I wonder if this game might be more interesting despite my suspicians because because of obvious connection with Elite. Being amost innovotive game in it's own time itself.  

Anywa, right now. I am enjoying Spore. Although it's more for the sake of being able to very easily design stuff myself than actualley playing the game properly. I right in the middle of SPORECAST based aon a old but popular televsion show called "MASH" with Tents, jeeps, Choppers, Ambulance trucks, and U.F.O. shaped like a Flying Tin-Cap ( Army Helmet.). The choice of Spore/people creature was dificult. So, I decided to go with subject of the old MASh movie poster and call it symbolism. As it's not the type of game where you can create individual characters. I aimed for more abtract concept. Although as easy as I thought ot make buildings that look like those green tents they used.

I'm also playing alot of this game call " Disciples : Sacred Lands"" A not recent game, though they have made sequels for this. Which I have neglected to try finding, as I played demo for one these and was not that impressed. The original game still seems better. Anyway, it's turned based affaired Which is break form all the real time gaming. Set in a fantasy world known as the Sacred Lands, it was a battle for dominance between four races of the world of Nevendaar: The Empire (humans), the Mountain Clans (dwarves) the Legions of the Damned (demons), and the Undead Hordes (undead).

Souhnd slike a Warcaft clone and there are a few, but this game is good enough on it's own merits and it has nice art work. As each character, race, creature, underling and so on as it's own protrait.
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