Few artists can claim quite a magnificent portfolio of stories as John M Burns, alongside some of the great Dredd tales, he waged war with Dante, crossed time and dimensions with The Order, his unmatched (to my eyes) paints showing the mastery of his craft he has learnt over decades at the drawing board. Alas in the Current tourney he was drawn against his Dante partner in the first round!
Mind speaking of classic Dredd and fine paints Peter Doherty knows a thing or two about both of those! It was hardly his fault he got Massimo in the first round of the Classic comp!
Time for you to decide your favourite as the droids square up to the tee...
John M Burns - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=johnm)
OR
Peter Doherty - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=PETERD)
Remember for this tourney you have 5 votes to distribute as you please between these two artists, whole numbers only. So you can vote 5 - 0; 4 - 1; or 3 - 2; either way depending on how much more you like one artist's work over the other.
If you can't be doing with that just name your favourite - remember bold tags, or other ways of highlighting always appreciated - and I'll give them 3 votes and nowt to the other droid.
Three day votes, so this one ends morning of Saturday 22nd May
Remember we only consider work for Tharg in these Tourneys
What the heck is all this about - well we have a thread for that (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.0)
How does this new voting work? Look here (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059536#msg1059536) and why again? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059557#msg1059557)
I don't understand how this works, what are the rules of the Ryder Cup - yep got ya covered there too (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059595#msg1059595)
Anything else just ask and I'll make something up. Most importantly have fun!
Burns 4: Doherty 1
Argh dammit. Two magnificent talents. This could be reversed tomorrow, but today it's:
John Burns 3, Peter Doherty 2.
Now, that's a hard one. With a twinge of sorrow for Doherty I have to mark it as:
Burns 3
Doherty 2
SBT
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 19 May, 2021, 06:27:52 AM
John M Burns - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=johnm)
Your link is going to the wrong John - think it should be more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=johnb)
Nothing again Doherty this one is all about that superb painted art from Burns for me.
Burns 4 - Doherty 1
Peter Doherty is a great artist but I don't think of him as "owning" a particular strip. Whereas for me Burns is synonymous with Nikolai Dante (along with Simon Fraser). Plus also Bendatti Vendetta, The Order.
Burns 4 : 1 Doherty
Quote from: sintec on 19 May, 2021, 08:51:46 AM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 19 May, 2021, 06:27:52 AM
John M Burns - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=johnm)
Your link is going to the wrong John - think it should be more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=johnb)
Nothing again Doherty this one is all about that superb painted art from Burns for me.
Burns 4 - Doherty 1
So it does - my apologise - I thought I'd tested all of those! Thanks for the spot Sintec.
Red Star Burns 4 Doherty Lokomotiv 1
John Burns 4, Peter Doherty 1
Have I told you lately that I hate you, Colin? WHY YOU MAKE ME CHOOSE.
I am always thrilled to see either of these artists in my prog. Doherty and Burns are both absolutely masters of supremely atmospheric colour and affecting gore, Pete having the edge with his crystal-clear action, backdrops and believable SF tech, John with his contemporary backdrops, Rubenesque women, Rococo costuming (and generally great drapery) and twinkling eyes. I love them both.
I think it just has to be Burns by a whisker, really more because his body of work takes in more strips that I truly love: Tsar Wars & the Pirate Arc, Scorpion Dance and Chief Judge's Man, The Order, even Bendatti Vendetta, Angel Zero and Black Light make the cut largely because of his real-world art. Even with Breathing Space and Young Death, Doherty has never really seemed to have 'that' single strip or run that he can call his own, just phenomenal contributions to so many (the best bit of Judgement Day, Justice 1, Innocence & Experience). Sort it out, Tharg.
So with real regret,
Burns' 3 to Doherty's 2.
Burns just tops this one for me
John M Burns - 3
Peter Doherty - 2
Doherty is sooooo underrated. 3-2 from mr pink hair.
Ohhh this is a tough one, love both of these artists...
John Burns 3, Peter Doherty 2
Burns painted art is a beautiful thing, and he draws a Dredd scowl like no one else.
Could've sworn I'd already voted on this one but must have lost it ot the aether.
Suffice to say, with so much Dante and the Order under his belt, it's not enough that Doherty is, for me, the better Dredd artist.
Burns 3, Doherty 2
An interesting one this. Two artists that I don't have any strong feelings about at all. Going for Burns simply because I love Dante so much.
Burns 2 - 3 Doherty.
Burns United (3) Doherty City (2)
Only today to get your votes in. Another quiet one so far so pop a vote in today if you haven't and the countin' will be done in the morning...
So as ever time for me to get my vote in and this one is pretty straightforward for me to be honest. Its not that I don't love Pete Doherty's art but John M Burns is in my 10 ten 2000ad artists of all time (probably I've never actually written my top 10 but reckon he'd get in there). That said I can't ignore Pete Doherty's talents and so:
John M Burns 4 : Peter Doherty 1
VOTING CLOSED
So yesterday Classic Team stopped the comeback of the rampent Current Team and this morning there is probably little surprise that Current Team have hit straight back. Pete Doherty is, as many of pointed out, an underrated star. However he had the misfortune to come up against John M Burns a legend of comics and 2000ad. So there is little surprise that the gap is closed back down to one ... but can Current close that gap entirely... well join me tomorrow...
Current Team 6 : Classic Team 7
Current Team 568 : Classic Team 656
With Team MacNeil showing The Biz only heals we might see another gain for the Current
Quote from: broodblik on 22 May, 2021, 09:35:01 AM
With Team MacNeil showing The Biz only heals we might see another gain for the Current
As the narrator said at the start of Hong Kong Phooey - 'Could be..'
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 22 May, 2021, 09:59:28 AM
Quote from: broodblik on 22 May, 2021, 09:35:01 AM
With Team MacNeil showing The Biz only heals we might see another gain for the Current
As the narrator said at the start of Hong Kong Phooey - 'Could be..'
Here's the thing- Burns and MacNeil are as "classic" 2000AD artists as just about anyone; they are on the "current" team as they are still doing work for Tharg, so it's a though draw for anyone coming up against them. Especially MacNeil. It's a bit unfair really 😉.
Quote from: Magnetica on 22 May, 2021, 12:29:01 PM
Here's the thing- Burns and MacNeil are as "classic" 2000AD artists as just about anyone; they are on the "current" team as they are still doing work for Tharg, so it's a though draw for anyone coming up against them. Especially MacNeil. It's a bit unfair really 😉.
Hey as I keep telling my kids - who ever said life was fair?
Poor ol' Current Team has like 5 years to draw from. Classic Team have the 39 years before that. Current Team have to fight nostaglia - who can do that AND some poor bugger from Current Team will be (well is) drawn against Carlos...
... I figure it all balances out in the end!