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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #30 on: 04 September, 2020, 02:09:53 PM »
I enjoyed the first Craig Bond movie but his portrayal off the character never worked for me. He feels like a Bond without boyish charisma and witty comments. He is way to serious, why so serious?
When I die, I want to die like my grandfather who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car.

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #31 on: 04 September, 2020, 02:18:47 PM »
I thought Casino Royale was an excellent, modern take on Bond. I was nonplussed by QoS and nearly walked out of the cinema in disgust due to Skyfall, which long-time forumites will be well aware of. I never watched Spectre.

Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s involvement in the latest one makes me a bit torn—she’s bloody awesome. But as talented as she is as a writer, and despite the quotes she’s given about her involvement with the film and the intended direction of the series, I find it hard to believe she’ll be able to eradicate enough of the misogyny at the heart of this production.

I hope I’m wrong.

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #32 on: 04 September, 2020, 02:25:11 PM »
Will be very interesting to see how a new Director, and hopefully some fresh, perhaps even female writers or Directors, bring a new Bond to the screen.

It really is a franchise that just ticks along, and i think perhaps if they showed a bit of vision and allowed the reigns to come off, they could be rewarded with a lot more interest. It was all downhill for Daniel Craig after Casino Royale.

Mind you, with what I've suggested, i can imagine the horror in the Daily Mail comments section if any of it was ever, hopefully, to come to pass.


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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #33 on: 04 September, 2020, 02:45:47 PM »
I thought Casino Royale was an excellent, modern take on Bond. I was nonplussed by QoS and nearly walked out of the cinema in disgust due to Skyfall, which long-time forumites will be well aware of. I never watched Spectre.

I though I was the only person on the planet that disliked Skyfall. My worse Bond-movie ever since it never felt like a Bonds-movie more like lets try to mimic one of the Bourne movies.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #34 on: 04 September, 2020, 02:50:25 PM »
I wrote this at the time: Skyfall: James Bond’s return to male-gaze misogyny. It got quite a bit of traction and still gets views even today. Some of the comments—particularly Dunya’s—are well worth reading if you decide to read the blog post, BTW.

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #35 on: 04 October, 2020, 11:57:19 AM »
Pushed back again until next year. Cineworld citing that as one of the reasons they are drawing up plans to close.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #36 on: 04 October, 2020, 11:59:21 AM »
But on a lighter note...https://twitter.com/stevefurst/status/1312159775300313089?s=08

Bond a misogynist dinosaur? Certainly Moore looks like Benny Hill.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #37 on: 07 January, 2021, 07:06:32 PM »
Well, I ain't exactly warmed up for this one. Partly because imo Bond movies ran out of their juice, partly because I don't rate Craig's films highly, and partly because I hate the cast on this new one. I mean, yeah, of all Craig movies, CR is maybe the best. A classy piece of work. But the rest... And why they had to return Leah Seydoux for the upcoming film? Her facial expressions are all the same. Rami Malek is a talented guy, but I don't see him as a Bond villain. And the storyline; if the rumors are true, that Bond is retired and then is forced to get back into action - well, how many times we've seen a similar or exact scheme?
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #38 on: 07 January, 2021, 07:18:35 PM »

They should pull a Who with Bond.

Flashback: 1942. The original James Bond is on another daring mission. He's killed! Oh no! Who will meet with Herr Crushdersouls now!? Enter Lieutenant Connery, who takes on the legend of James Bond. When he's killed, Captain Lazenby takes on the mantle for a while and then so on. Perhaps all the 00s do the same.

Cut to: Present day. Somebody is killing all the retired Bonds... and Commander Craig's next. But maybe Captain Elba's Bond can save the day and continue the legend...

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #39 on: 07 January, 2021, 07:44:42 PM »
They should pull a Who with Bond.

Oh, totally, Should have done that the very first time they changed the actor.

But of course, Craig's films are explicitly a different universe, where the non-Craig films never happened...
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #40 on: 07 January, 2021, 07:58:55 PM »

Good point.

It would've been cool, though, to see Dalton and Whatsisname in retirement and being really hard to kill but killed nontheless.

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #41 on: 07 January, 2021, 08:06:13 PM »

They should pull a Who with Bond.


You mean, Doctor Who? I don't know... I havent followed the series. But I heard the ratings currently aren't exactly admirable.

The thing with Bond is, that being 007 isn't just another moniker as people thought from G. Lazenby's opening line. It's practically the same character, with severe slow-age problem.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #42 on: 07 January, 2021, 08:17:32 PM »

Sorry, yes, Doctor Who. Finding a way of not only changing actors but folding those changes into the plot. In Bond's case, though, it strips him of his superhuman status - suddenly, he can die, thus opening up dramatic opportunities...

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #43 on: 07 January, 2021, 08:40:15 PM »

Sorry, yes, Doctor Who. Finding a way of not only changing actors but folding those changes into the plot. In Bond's case, though, it strips him of his superhuman status - suddenly, he can die, thus opening up dramatic opportunities...

I dunno... Bonds I enjoy the most are those that show him the least grounded (like Moore films) :)
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #44 on: 07 January, 2021, 10:30:56 PM »

Ah - then we extract our Bondian enjoyment from opposite ends. Timothy Dalton's my favourite Bond.

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