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I liked the remake of BSG, but even that went of on it's moralizing bullshit tangents, "my relationship is falling apart", "I'm an alcoholic", "nobody trusts me as a pilot waaaahh!". It's space soap and not befitting of the Judge Dredd universe.

The only way I could be happy with Dredd as a TV series is if the talented people who brought us Dredd were on-board, and now that I have them in a Dredd movie, you would have to pry Karl and Olivia from my cold dead hands. replace them at your peril!

However, I'm really fond of humble pie and will eat it by the bucket-load if whatever happens next is just as awesome as what just happened.

I don't like the thought of a TV series...I think it cheapens the product

If they were going to throw Game of Thrones type money at it, I'd disagree quite strongly.

Cheers

Jim

If the same crew can be kept for a TV series, and they don't flog it on as a going concern.

I do like Game of Thrones, but what was done to The Walking Dead, with its repetitive moralizing was awful.   There is a lot of lazy TV making where they just have an actor tell us a story to make some point, instead of using the plot of the program to do the same, that takes skill. And its nice to see that Dredd let its audience work out any moral point for itself.

Dredd was definitely applying a bit of punishment with his sentencing. He threw the second in command off the balcony, that's not instant justice. And Ma-Mas' was a very drawn out affair, great for us, but poor bitch.

The question about the copper animal was asked to Alex at the Toronto screening. Here's his answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx23hQxNRMs&feature=player_detailpage#t=828s

"should of been a reference.... was a reference..."

cool guy, very happy that Dredd ended up with Garland, very happy.

I saw the movie last night, I had a motley collection of mates along for the ride, ten of us in all, and views varied from great to garbage, just goes to show you can't win em all.

First, what I didn't like... 3D, I would have been much happier if the only scenes in 3D were the SLO-MO scenes, because it added nothing to the experience for the majority of the movie and I actually thought it detracted from it at times.  (One of my group said that the 3D in Prometheus was no better so I guess it's just a medium that isn't working).  Also, two of the group went home immediately afterwards with headaches.  Next viewing will be in 2D, and I really hope The Hobbit has 2D showings because I'm simply done with the format.

The future America is a mouldy corridor.  Too much time walking the samey, bland halls of Peach Trees. Blade Runner had a similar run down vibe, while still giving more life to each scene, but this is a budget issue so I'm giving it a pass, 

And I think that's the niggles out the way, although the 3D was a fucking huge niggle.

As for everything else, for me they pretty much nailed it, a day in the life story of the worlds grumpiest civil servant . You really do get a feeling that this is what Dredd does every day. It must suck. Urbans chin was acting its little whiskers off, great stuff. Each downturn of the lips, each mocking sneer showed how little he actually thinks of what has become of the human race, so just like a bureaucrat then. 

Props too to Lex who got a positively Shakespearean performance out of his own chin.

I also liked how Dredd took that bullet, I doubt it was his first, and knew it was coming but the reaction felt true. not one of those ridiculous superhero moments, genuinely human. Talking of genuine, the point where Dredd helps Anderson with her own bullet holes was quite touching, really nice little moment.

Anderson was excellent, and like Kay, I wouldn't mind a bit more time with her. 

Ma-Ma was dead ages ago, thats how it feels. Bored, laconic, empty. She's living for the the drug high, or to inflict some pain. There just seems to be nothing else left of her. Nicely done.

The problem of filming the helmets seemed unfounded, in fact I thought the one size fits all issue worked in their favour, gave them quite a motley look, nothing preened and perfect about these judges.

The Lawmaster really worked too, especially when compared to Stallones' top heavy mopeds, wobbling down the road at 5mph. This Lawmaster was quick and vicious, nipping in and out of traffic hot on the heels of the perps. And I didn't mind the old school vehicles either. In fact if the world is just recovering from a nuclear war (as it appears in this early incarnation of Mega City 1) I guess the easiest and cheapest is what you make.  They all sounded electric though, so props to trying to save what's left of the environment. Or maybe They just don't have the gas to guzzle any more.

The SLO-MO was beautiful, I would have liked a whole lot more of it. And if it had been the only 3D element, it would have stood out so much better.

This is the first movie I have followed with such interest, it was worrying feeling so invested. I was particularly worried how the group would react (they were there in the most part because I sold it to them, plus I throw a mean after show party), especially 15 minutes in when the 3D really started to annoy, but the worry was unfounded, only one of the group thought ill of the film as a whole, everyone else really liked the film, liked the story, and liked the character of Judge Dredd.

And I loved it, and I want more, a lot more.

The Raid... Why did nobody ever pick up a fucking gun???

Pretty much every review is calling this a Scott Travis movie, that's the way movies are seen these days, as the directors baby. Dredd is definitely much more Alex Garlands, and the look hase more to do with the cinematographer than the director. I guess the lack of mentions for Travis in promotional material and interviews kind of counter balances this perception.

Reviews don't matter for anything unless they get people into the cinema. If the film doesn't make money in the US, then they won't be able to find a US distributor for the sequel, and that means no sequel.

The Raid got picked up for a remake with only $4 mil US box office, granted that's a good return on its $1 mil budget, but it's definitely down to how the film is perceived as having potential that it's picked up at all, because a US remake is going to cost at least 3 times its US box office to produce.

Also Punisher, how many times are they going to remake that particular franchise?

$9 million with inflation is about $28 million these days. That's an exceptional return for a film that only cost about half a million to make.

Fair point, but for Mad Max II they gave it a much bigger budget for a sequel that hit the market about 2 years later and it was a much better return. Isn't that because of potential?

Dredd was a hard sell, Stallone and Cannon tainted the project 17 years ago, and that stigma is still felt. People may not have seen Judge Dredd, but everyone in the US knows who Stallone is, and can probably list the films that flopped badly as well as the ones that succeeded. Look at the negativity on IMDB just six months ago, even the trailer was met with a resounding 'meh' online. But look at how its perceived now, the potential in the source material is there, and its been proven that a high quality special effects heavy sci-fi movie can be made on a modest budget. Dredd may struggle at the US box office because of the 95 film, but a sequel certainly wouldn't have that problem.

That would depend on how those actors want their careers to progress. These days, there's plenty of TV that has exceptional production values, starring actors who've previously had decent roles on the big screen.

Thirlby and Urban have both done TV before, and Lena Headey certainly seems able to get a few movies out even with Game of Thrones ongoing, not that she's likely to turn up in a Dredd TV series!  I would be a bit worried about Dredd changing hands, so unless Alex and team are involved... I dunno, I just want the lot of 'em working on a sequel, TV or otherwise. I don't want it to change hands really.

I hope this film does well,  and I'm quite confident that it will.  I'm going to the cinema with 8 other people, most of whom haven't read 2000AD or any other comics for that matter, I haven't been to the cinema with a large group of people since LOTR. And its not just because I'm a massive fanboy who won't shut up about it, there's genuine interest in Dredd, it's a British film, about a British comic character, I think it will do well here. I also think it will do well worldwide, much like Mad Max, which only took about $9 mil in the US, but $100 mil worldwide.

I'm not concerned about hitting the $50 mil target in the US, I think a sequel is inevitable because, as many reviews have pointed out there's great potential in the source material.

It may take longer for a sequel to get the green light if it doesn't hit the target Alex suggests, but I think it will happen. It's pretty clear from the reviews that Judge Dredd, when done well has great potential.

I'm not so sure about a TV series though, wouldn't that mean we lose Urban and Thirlby?  I'm not sure I would want that to happen.

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I'm doing fine, how are you?

My effort!

I love how he appeared to be standing to attention for "Perps were, uncooperative"

[11:22 PM: JUDGES ARRESTED SUSPECT AT LOCAL RESTAURANT ON CHARGES OF A LEWD ACT IN A PUBLIC PLACE]

11:22 PM: JUDGES ARRESTED SUSPECT AT LOCAL RESTAURANT ON CHARGES OF A LEWD ACT IN A PUBLIC PLACE

I have the pictures of Pete Wells to prove it

Hey! It was a warm pasty and a cold night!

That's just so many types of wrong!

Yup, some of those links leave you feeling kinda awkward. I wonder if that's the intent, going for a bit of controversy?

I'm surprised how many of my mates are giving me grief about seeing this in 3D, I haven't watched one since Avatar but I'm definitely seeing DREDD 3D. I'm twisting arms to get others to do likewise.

The 'gimmick' tag is hard to shake.