It's probably about time there was a separate thread for the non-2000ad stuff.
Anyway I've just learned that both of the young lads in Kriss Kross were called Chris, hence the name.
Oops wrong thread
After watching through The Sopranos half a dozen times over the last decade, I literally only just realised that Richie Aprile isn't played by Armand Assante (Rico from the 1995 Dredd film) and is actually played by an actor called David Proval. Damn they look alike!
Feck, you're not wrong there. I'm ashamed to say that I'd over half of The Departed before realising Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon were two different people.
That Captain Britain is regular part of Marvel universe. Up til then, I saw him akin to what Miracleman was for Shazam.
So it was about ten years ago and I had recently befriended this lady who I really liked but wasn't sure if she felt the same way. Then when I start getting texts from her, a lot of them ended with LOL.
Imagine my disappointment when I discovered, that those initials were short for "Laugh Out Loud" and not "Lots of Love", as I had previously hoped.
:lol:
LOL.
Also, lots of love.
That certain comic book writers names are Dan Scott and Garth Dennis.
The LOL for 'lots of love' is quite common - hence you might receive a text saying something along the lines of "I just heard about your mother's death - LOL"
You need to go to Lol College.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealBobMortimer/status/1370403884246691841 (https://mobile.twitter.com/RealBobMortimer/status/1370403884246691841)
Quote from: sheridan on 05 May, 2021, 12:58:29 PM
The LOL for 'lots of love' is quite common - hence you might receive a text saying something along the lines of "I just heard about your mother's death - LOL"
She might have been roundly hated - LMAO
LMAO: let me apologize, ok?
Watched Fury the other night. The movie is so - so, average entry in ww2 cinema, but the whole movie I thought I am watching Ryan Phillipe as the new guy. I was around 90 percent sure, but I stuck to ending credits - Brad Pitt, Shia LeBouf, Michael Pena, Jon Bernthal, Logan Lerman... Logan who?
It's just occurred to me that Cruella DeVil's surname is a play on 'devil'. In my defence, I've never seen any film with her in it.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 02 June, 2021, 01:46:01 PM
It's just occurred to me that Cruella DeVil's surname is a play on 'devil'. In my defence, I've never seen any film with her in it.
I've got some alarming news for you about that nice Sidney De'ath
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 02 June, 2021, 01:46:01 PM
It's just occurred to me that Cruella DeVil's surname is a play on 'devil'. In my defence, I've never seen any film with her in it.
Never copped that one myself.
When I was a wee shaving, in the dim and distant of three tv channels and playing out, I was fascinated by the graffiti in telephone boxes and bus shelters. Fag was one, the nickname of a much older, Fonzie-cool boy who lived in the corner bungalow nearby. His name was carved into numerous local amenities as far as two villages away and graced at least three bus stops in Town. One of them near a pub. Then there was Whitey, known to me only through fierce rumours - though I may have glimpsed him once, in all his hulking malevolence, on a school bus in the tender half of the First Year. His name was also in Town and on a few local amenities, but not as many as Fag's. Jack, Bungo, and Faz also figured amongst a fair few others, some fresh, some years and, in rare cases, decades old. Pretty tribal, I guess. I wonder if there's such a thing as graffitochronology?
Anyway, there was one name that was everywhere. Every village. The Town. Even the City. And I couldn't figure out who he or she was. So, one day, I asked my Mum, because she knew everything and everybody in the world. She also liked football. Boring, tedious football. When I think back to those interminable football matches I had to sit through in the depths of winter, on a torrential weekend, stuck in the front room because it was the only place with a fire and you can only read comics and draw pictures in a draughty bedroom for so long, with nothing on the telly but bloody football and my Mum, who knew nothing and hated me, sat there watching and knitting. She never even cheered or anything. Just sat there, legs folded beside her, watching and clicking and clacking and telling me off for, like, only everything. So, I finally asked her if she knew who Mufc was.
It is a disappointment that haunts me to this day.
I just realised that a podcast is a play on words of broadcast.
I knew "pod" came from ipod. I just never thought about the "cast" bit.
I remember on my trip to Thailand, so many years ago now, I started noticing some place names rang a bell. Chiang Mai. Fang. It was Sukumvit that brought it back - Ian Livingstone had used them for Deathtrap Dungeon (the 80s role-playing book, like you didn't know).
It's just come back to me now after listening to the brilliant Hypnogoria podcast about said book. And then I found this. http://officialfightingfantasy.blogspot.com/2017/05/who-wants-to-go-for-walk.html (http://officialfightingfantasy.blogspot.com/2017/05/who-wants-to-go-for-walk.html) He didn't even bother to change the names. Still a great book though.
Deathtrap Dungeon - my first Fighting Fantasy book! My fave is the Shamutanti Hills, closely followed by City of Thieves and a few of the other early books.
In those weird few minutes between sleeping and waking, I was trying to remember the name of Con Air for some reason, and misremembered it as Air Con. Which made me realise it's a play on words. I think.
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I think it's only in the last year that I realised Oxo is so-called because it's cow flavoured.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 09 July, 2023, 10:24:03 PMbecause it's cow flavoured.
Not so obvious, but guess where the 'Bo' in Bovril comes from.
(Where the 'vril' comes from is just downright odd. I'll leave you to look it up.)
Quote from: JohnW on 10 July, 2023, 08:44:18 AMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 09 July, 2023, 10:24:03 PMbecause it's cow flavoured.
Not so obvious, but guess where the 'Bo' in Bovril comes from.
(Where the 'vril' comes from is just downright odd. I'll leave you to look it up.)
The same source as "It was a dark and stormy night", "pursuit of the almighty dollar", "the pen is mightier than the sword", "the great unwashed" and "dweller on the threshold".
Quote from: JohnW on 10 July, 2023, 08:44:18 AMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 09 July, 2023, 10:24:03 PMbecause it's cow flavoured.
Not so obvious, but guess where the 'Bo' in Bovril comes from.
(Where the 'vril' comes from is just downright odd. I'll leave you to look it up.)
Now that definitely went over my head. Also, bó (cow, of course) is one those many Irish words which comes directly from Latin, which is a fact I would imagine Pat Mills wouldn't like one bit.
Are my memories deceiving me or did
The Coming Race crop up in
Zenith once? Also I remember some DC character called Vril Dox, who I only knew about because he was connected to Lobo, who in turn I only knew about because he looked like Bisley's Sláine.
Just to bring this full circle, Sláine is based largely on Cúchulainn, and his main epic The Táin (liberally quoted in the Horned God) is not a story about a king ascending to godhood and uniting tribes against an ancient evil, but about people stealing cows from each other.
By God, but I don't think I've seen so much erudition packed into so few posts before.
Aren't we the fierce knowledgey lads altogether?
And to think it all started with a simple stock cube.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 10 July, 2023, 04:18:23 PMNow that definitely went over my head. Also, bó (cow, of course) is one those many Irish words which comes directly from Latin, which is a fact I would imagine Pat Mills wouldn't like one bit.
Don't know about that, but I know he found this advert hilarious:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/The_Pope_and_Bovril.jpg)
Now that is a belter. Popes looked much cooler back then. Modern-day Catholics are stuck with Jim Bowen with a stalk on his head.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 10 July, 2023, 06:19:23 PMPopes looked much cooler back then. Modern-day Catholics are stuck with Jim Bowen with a stalk on his head.
(https://i.imgur.com/1kY4XIq.jpg)
:P
I'm some eejit. I just heard Jim Moon discussing movie Easter eggs in his excellent Hypnogoria podcast, and it's just occurred to me that they're so-called because they're hidden and you have to search for them. I just thought it was because they were nice things to have. I know, I know- I'm not the quickest on the uptake.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 06 November, 2023, 09:52:52 PMI'm some eejit. I just heard Jim Moon discussing movie Easter eggs in his excellent Hypnogoria podcast, and it's just occurred to me that they're so-called because they're hidden and you have to search for them. I just thought it was because they were nice things to have. I know, I know- I'm not the quickest on the uptake.
Legend has it that during the filming of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, the cast had a literal Easter Egg hunt. Some eggs from that ended up being visible in the final cut. And there you have it, actual Easter eggs -
(https://preview.redd.it/6hj5pxs7z6a31.jpg?auto=webp&s=2c17a6734b85685a21d16d55488487856e4a5c02)
Well I never. I love this board
Been rereading a lot of Asterix for the first time in too long.
(https://i.imgur.com/RZjzAW3.jpg)
"You have nothing to lose but your chains!": the words of a German who happened to write a rather famous book called Capital.
I suppose there's no end of Asterix jokes that went over my head. It only took me forty-three years to get that one.
I've never read an Asterix book but my cousin was a fan when we are kids. I specifically remember Asterix flicking a v-sign at an enemy but in hindsight it surely had a different meaning in France and / or ancient Gaul.
Asterix rules. Three great jokes just in those two panels.
I was a big fan as a kid but it wasn't until I reread a bunch as an adult I appreciated how much clever wordplay and literature jokes they contain. You can really enjoy them on multiple levels.
I kind of feel I missed out now. The artwork is incredible for starters. And I think I may have stood in that spot in Rome.
I love asterix and the gags in English are arguably better than the gags in French. But as a kid I skimmed all the names because they were all complicated looking things that ended in ix or us and that looked hard. Regret it.
Quote from: pauljholden on 04 March, 2024, 04:24:39 PMI love asterix and the gags in English are arguably better than the gags in French.
Can't speak to the quality of the jokes in French as my French is shocking but Anthea Bell and Derek Hockridge (who translated to English) are a massive part as to why they are so good in English. Some of my all time favourite comics.
I used to know a guy who was fluent in French who insisted that the originals were better and the translation was inferior, but that's just one person's opinion.
I never got into Asterix - along with Tintin these were the teacher-approved comics you may find in the school library - I was reading 2000ad man, so fuck that shit!
The translators did do an amazing job though - the way they kept the joke by changing the language - not easy.
Marginally better than De'ath, I suppose.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 05 March, 2024, 11:48:52 PMI never got into Asterix - along with Tintin these were the teacher-approved comics you may find in the school library - I was reading 2000ad man, so fuck that shit!
Likewise. That said, hopefully Asterix was a bit less up himself about fighting Romans than Sláine, who turned into a right preachy git at the first sight of a centurion.
The idea the Asterix jokes work better in French has been around for a long time. They do work incredibly well in English as well. If you've not dabbled, they are well worth it just for the sheer anarchy of the strip. Always fun seeing what happens to the pirates each time they appear.
Just been working slowly through a re-read and they still hold their own really well. Some of the later books slightly less so and I've not got to the post-Goscinny / Uderzo books yet (not read good things about them and a little bit unsure on that score but we'll see).
Recently gone back to Tin-Tin too as this was another series I dabbled in many moons ago. Land of the Soviets is a fascinating piece as it is quite a stark contrast to the later books. Tin-Tin is much more aggressive and gung-ho for a start.
I have read Asterix/Tintin in two different languages (French was not one of them). I must say that maybe I am biased but I did find the jokes worked better in my language than English. I will ask my one friend whom is quite versed in French if that statement held true
Quote from: broodblik on 07 March, 2024, 07:15:48 AMI have read Asterix/Tintin in two different languages (French was not one of them). I must say that maybe I am biased but I did find the jokes worked better in my language than English. I will ask my one friend whom is quite versed in French if that statement held true
Yeah that would be interesting to hear about. As a none French speaker I can only say the English translations are really good. I can get clues in the names which suggest the translations work better, but as you say that's my singular perspective.
Quote from: Tjm86 on 07 March, 2024, 06:52:01 AMJust been working slowly through a re-read and they still hold their own really well. Some of the later books slightly less so and I've not got to the post-Goscinny / Uderzo books yet (not read good things about them and a little bit unsure on that score but we'll see).
For me the post Goscinny comics, when Uderzo is writing as well as drawing are a great example of the law of dimishing returns. Some of the early Uderzo written volumes are pretty good, particularly Black Gold, but it quickly tales off. Its possible that would have happened even if Goscinny had not passed, we'll never now, but by the end of of the Uderzo stories they feel like hollow immitations (art aside which remains wonderful) as they feel less and less relevent.
The post Uderzo comics feel very much like immitations trying to capture the originals and sometimes getting close, often not. I wish they'd been a bit bolder and excepted they couldn't recapture the magic so rather than try keep the essence but allow the new stories to be their own thing. Still there's some decent comics there.
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 07 March, 2024, 07:34:42 AMQuoteI have read Asterix/Tintin in two different languages (French was not one of them). I must say that maybe I am biased but I did find the jokes worked better in my language than English. I will ask my one friend whom is quite versed in French if that statement held true
Yeah that would be interesting to hear about. As a none French speaker I can only say the English translations are really good. I can get clues in the names which suggest the translations work better, but as you say that's my singular perspective.
My friends answer: I do think it is better in French. Especially Asterix. But the English translation are good
Those who are better versed, whats the 'peak' point for Asterix? As a kid I found the series less fun around the time of Asterix in Belgium, possibly because I didn't get a lot of the jokes. I later recovered the books from my parents loft and I think that one reads a lot better but Black Gold / Asterix and Son were both weaker and that's when my experience finishes. Worth reading any after that?
I need to do a full re-read and find out where the stories slide!
I have the first 30 (30 is the magic carpet one) and stopped buying after How Obelix fell into the the cauldron.
I haven't read any since the early 90s so it will be interesting how much I enjoy them.
I get how it could be funnier in French to the French - This is a French (Gaul) hero who is giving it to the oppressor so the language is for a local market- at the time I don't believe the writers could have imagined how world wide it would have went and maybe that's why the stories/wit slide as they go for a more global readership?
I have always thought that Scottish comedy (based on a Scottish character) written by Scots is funnier to Scots- same as Welsh for Welsh, Scouse for Scouse, Geordie for Geordie etc etc.
everyone still gets the jokes but the wording or specific phrases strike at the funny bone a little harder for those who it is aimed at.
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 07 March, 2024, 09:26:48 AMThose who are better versed, whats the 'peak' point for Asterix? As a kid I found the series less fun around the time of Asterix in Belgium, possibly because I didn't get a lot of the jokes.
(https://i.imgur.com/wfLoYWz.jpg)
Goscinny died while Uderzo was halfway through drawing
Asterix in Belgium.
Legend has it that the second panel shown here marks the moment. The rain wasn't in the script. Uderzo added it as tribute to his collaborator.
Getting back to where we started, the 'playing fields of Eton'* joke would have sailed right over my head in days gone by.
Anyway, the golden age was anything before this, with a concentration of excellence in the late '60s and early '70s.
For easy reference, the whole series is available on Internet Archive (https://archive.org/search?query=creator%3A%22Goscinny+%26+Uderzo%22) but I'd recommend the omnibus paperback editions. Lovely reproduction at a very reasonable price.
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And thinking about it now, I suddenly get the whole joke. (Wellington is supposed have said that the Battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton. Waterloo is in Belgium. Ta-daa!)
Before I forget we have a wholethread (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=42648.45) talking about Asterix. Which to some degree is me saying what I think of the recent volumes.
As for absolute peak Asterix for me thats anything between Asterix The Legionnary and Obelix and Co but there is something to appreciate in just about all of them.... well maybe Secret Weapon is one to avoid???