Byrne on Moore & Brits

uncle fester · 08 March, 2010, 09:46:45 AM

I find it quite staggering the depths of bitterness that Byrne has reserved for Alan Moore, and the endless need to regurgitate his personal resentment. But I find it very disturbing that he perches atop his own forum and encourages everyone else stoop further. It's utterly poisonous in its negativity.

I need to go and sit in the sun for a while. Think happy thoughts. Be positive.

Hoagy · 08 March, 2010, 10:06:52 AM

If I was Alan Moore and another in the mutual industry I was in was declaring publicly I was peddling kiddie porn, I'd play football with his head. I suppose its all politics. Which kind of goes against the whole JBF overall mantra that comics are supposed to be fun. But as is evident so many posts along the way, it most certainly isn't and much more a soap box for the blissful ignorance comics are capable of inaugurating. Anybody developing the medium towards compelling storytelling better watch out.

JayzusB.Christ · 10 March, 2010, 01:12:07 PM

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[comics] John Byrne on Grant Morrison and Alan Moore: 'I get no sense from [Grant] Morrison's work that he has any "love for the genre". I get the same vibe I get from [Alan] Moore — a cold and calculated mixing of ingredients the writer knows the fans like, but to which the writer himself has no eviceral connection. Nostalgia without being nostalgic, as I have dubbed it.'

Haven't trawled through all of this thread yet (entertaining though it is) but the above is taken from another website. A bitter, bitter man who has long since been left in the dust of both these cold, calculating, superior writers.

JB's approach to the comics market makes me think of a Sid-The-Sexist-style approach to women - 'She went for HIM over ME? She must be a lezza.'

Finally, I am pleased to say that I'd never heard of JB before I saw his name on this message board last year.

Peter Wolf · 10 March, 2010, 01:38:16 PM

Quote from: uncle fester on 08 March, 2010, 09:46:45 AM
I find it quite staggering the depths of bitterness that Byrne has reserved for Alan Moore, and the endless need to regurgitate his personal resentment. But I find it very disturbing that he perches atop his own forum and encourages everyone else stoop further. It's utterly poisonous in its negativity.

I need to go and sit in the sun for a while. Think happy thoughts. Be positive.

My thoughts exactly.

Its a definate all time low that JB cultivates this kind of animosity on a forum towards another creator.JB needs to get over himself but it will never happen.

Its borderline obsessional behaviour because its not like this is the first time this has happened as its routine.Perhaps JB ought to get some counselling.

JayzusB.Christ · 10 March, 2010, 01:59:16 PM

yep, i am ashamed to say that it has made me quite angry to see that such a negative and opinionated guy has so many followers. At least he's only a comics writer and has no influence on the running of the world. Though plenty like him do.

Jim_Campbell · 24 May, 2010, 07:54:15 AM

Hah. I do still swing past the ol' JBF intermittently, primarily to see if there's anything of comedy value there...

... And, lo! The Chief has been nominated for an Eagle award. Does Ol' JB take this with the good grace that might be expected of a man whose star is frequently accused of fading?

Does he fuck.

Cheers!

Jim

JOE SOAP · 24 May, 2010, 08:35:46 AM

Honestly, the man is a penis.

Everytime I go to the JB forum, my computer shifts to a low frequency hum.

Mike Gloady · 24 May, 2010, 09:33:35 AM

Thanks Jim. Always nice to have a guide to the vast galaxy of cockishness that is Mr Byrne.

johnnystress · 24 May, 2010, 10:05:04 AM

fucks sake

Van Dom · 24 May, 2010, 11:41:56 AM

What a tosser!!!

M.I.K. · 24 May, 2010, 02:29:50 PM

Whoa there, people. John Byrne may have demonstrated on previous occasions that he isn't the most pleasant of individuals, but if he wants his name removed from the running, I think that's fair enough.

If it had been anyone else asking the same, I doubt you'd have reacted the same way so quickly. I'd reserve the name-calling for when he really deserves it, or... you know... when just referring to him generally.

Roger Godpleton · 24 May, 2010, 02:40:42 PM

^^^

This.

Jim_Campbell · 24 May, 2010, 02:48:25 PM

Quote from: M.I.K. on 24 May, 2010, 02:29:50 PM
Whoa there, people. John Byrne may have demonstrated on previous occasions that he isn't the most pleasant of individuals, but if he wants his name removed from the running, I think that's fair enough.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I think he comes across as a graceless prick -- he's said on other threads that the gratitude of fans is reward in itself so you'd think an award nominated and voted for by fans would be one of the few things he would approve of.

Cheers

Jim

Peter Wolf · 24 May, 2010, 03:24:21 PM

Its a shame then that a nomination was wasted as it could have gone to someone is who is more appreciative of it.

Did John Byrne have any idea that he was going to be nominated previous to this ?

M.I.K. · 24 May, 2010, 03:30:23 PM

Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 24 May, 2010, 02:48:25 PM
Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I think he comes across as a graceless prick -- he's said on other threads that the gratitude of fans is reward in itself so you'd think an award nominated and voted for by fans would be one of the few things he would approve of.

Well, he did say he didn't wish to seem ungrateful, which does at least appear to be an acknowledgement that he should be grateful, whether or not he actually is, but I really don't see anything overly offensive in his opinion on this.

The only person who could potentially be missing out on something because of his removal from the awards, is himself.