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Title: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: Matt on 15 May, 2002, 05:44:51 PM
Just found some more gossip/rumors on the forth coming Dredd movies. Apparently Billy Dee Williams has been approached to play Chief Judge Silver. Introduced in Dredd Reckoning, Silver is rumored to be killed by Death in the sequel. Cool.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: JimBob on 15 May, 2002, 05:49:04 PM
 Nice. He was an interesting choice for Harvey Dent in the first Batman movie and apparently would have been Two Face if Burton had made the third movie. Would prefer Bill Cosby "What we have here is a super-natural killer, with his a-hissing and his a-maiming and his..." ad nauseum, he could also have a nice chunky Cheif Judge cardigan.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: paulvonscott on 15 May, 2002, 05:50:29 PM
lol, stop it JimBob.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: JimBob on 15 May, 2002, 06:05:22 PM
Kicking 80's icons is fun but in all seriousness with that casting it shows the kind of price range they're looking at for actors. I think Ron Perlman would be a good Dredd and he's cheapish,  if not Bill Duke - remember him in Predator? Although he's probably well past it now. I don't think there is any problem casting a black Dredd at all as long as it's not Gary Coleman.  
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: Thread Zero on 15 May, 2002, 06:16:02 PM
Oh well, it proves once and for all Jason Kingsley wasn't going to read my script.

Thanks for not telling me Jason:P

scojo
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: unclebacon on 15 May, 2002, 06:19:21 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaargh!.... If anyone let's Ron Pearlmen anywhere NEAR the Judge Dredd film I'll maim everyone responsible. Think of Alien Ressurection for grud's sake (OK, he was good in The City of Lost Children, but he was also crap in Blade 2 and he's got a funny shaped head and an overly cheesy style - check the making of Alien 4 if you don't believe me.)
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: Thread Zero on 15 May, 2002, 06:19:59 PM
I know it's trivial but why Silver?????

Why not Hershey as Chief Judge?

I guess Death killing her isn't such a good idea!

Still seems odd to have Silver as CJ.


scojo
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: paulvonscott on 15 May, 2002, 06:20:59 PM
Well, to be honest I think I'd rather have cheaper better actors than huge stars.  

Was Bill Duke the guy with the big gun and the moustache or am I thinking of the governer of texas?

But I was watching Conan the other day and Arnie could do a good Dredd I seriously believe.  SOme of his facial expressions were pure Dredd.  Now considering the entire budget of the two films couldn't pay for Arnie that's a bit unlikely.

Well, Dredd's not black, so I think it would be daft, why not make him a woman?  Or Blind.

If you want to go along with the whole mixed race notion from the seventies then, yeah, I don't have any real problem with that.  

I just think it's dubious to change things for vague political reasons, it's just like those people who believe Jesus Christ was black, you really have to question their motives.

I also wouldn't be happy if Giant or Silver were white, it's nothing to do with any racial prefences, it's just who those characters are.  Just as I would be unhappy with any other unnecesary chnages to their characters.  From hair colur, gender or personality.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: moly on 15 May, 2002, 06:41:04 PM
you cant have a black actor playing dredd he is white end of story, by the way jesus wasnt white either you was or arab origin
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: JimBob on 15 May, 2002, 06:44:51 PM
 Bill Duke was the big guy who was always shaving(in a non-porn sense). Nothing political about making him black with Dredd his race is irrelevant as he's a cypher really. I strongly disagreed with people after a black Dr Who because it would lead to almost all historically based stories having to emphasise prejudice, so theres no PC agenda here. All I really think you need is a big grizzled bloke with presence who unlike Stallone can make himself heard. I still remember sitting in the cinema hearing "I am the door." and cringing.  
 
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: unclebacon on 15 May, 2002, 06:49:43 PM
You can't have a black Dredd anymore than you can have a white Blade or a japanese Superman or a midget who can only speak french playing Batman. It's just stupid.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: unclebacon on 15 May, 2002, 06:53:04 PM
Thing is, do we want Dredd to be the classic, grizzled old man style, or the modern teutonic muscle man?
And who's got a big enough chin?
(Especially now Rod Hull's dead.)
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: Thread Zero on 15 May, 2002, 06:55:44 PM
Matt,

Where did you get that info?

What site?

scojo
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: JimBob on 15 May, 2002, 06:58:05 PM
 Surprised how many people are bothered about the colour thing I never really thought it was that relevant to Dredd as in terms of background he's a man from nowhere really, no family or cultural background to affect - what passes for- his personality.
 I prefer the older grizzled Dredd myself but I can see the opposit opinion, a Vin Diesel Dredd has a certain appeal but if he has to be younger he still needs a lot of presence.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: paulvonscott on 15 May, 2002, 07:04:51 PM
"by the way jesus wasnt white either you was or arab origin"

If you read my post, I never said Jesus was white.  As far as I know he was a Jew, whatever that meant 2000 years ago racially is beyond me.

Personally I think changing Dredd's skin pigmentation, is political.  Even arguing that it has no political meaning, is political in itself.  he;s been protrayed for 25 years a swhite, when the next batman film has a black bruce wayne I'll consider it.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: JimBob on 15 May, 2002, 07:12:03 PM
 Nah disagree sorry. I think Denzel Washington would be a great Bruce Wayne, much better than Val - Bloody - Kilmer. Speaking as a pasty Ginger and probably Scotlands only tory left I can assure you I haven't got an agenda i just think with a little imagination  over casting to get the right man is more important than making sure it looks exactly like the comic. I hated Stallone and physically he and Arnie are perfect but they don't work for me in the roll. Personally eastwood 10 years ago would have been my ideal Dredd but you can't always get what you want  
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: paulvonscott on 15 May, 2002, 07:25:10 PM
No, Jimbob, I agree that Denzil Washington would make a great bruce wayne.  Better than Kilmer, Keaton and... was there another?  Neither to me looked like Bruce Wayne, Kilmer had a girly pouting mouth, with lisptick on and Keaten looks like a bargain basement jack nicholson.

But I just think that you either do a faithful version or you throw all preconceptions about the subject matter out the window.  The last dredd film was halfway between the two, not a happy medium.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: Matt on 15 May, 2002, 07:44:49 PM
I think Jodie Foster would make a great Dredd, after all Dredd his gender is irrelevant as he's a cypher really.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: Trout on 15 May, 2002, 07:51:21 PM
I've obviously missed a huge debate on Dredd casting, so I'll add my tuppence-worth now.

Is Bernard Bresslaw still with us?

MikeD
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: paulvonscott on 15 May, 2002, 07:54:47 PM
BERNARD!

Alas, no, but I do love the bloke.

"Ere sid, wot you doing?"

"Calll me death ssssssinnner"

lol

p.s. Dredd is not a cypher, a very big mistake that people make in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: unclebacon on 15 May, 2002, 08:07:33 PM
How about Claire Forliani? The opening sequence could have Dredd removing her clothing whilst being sprayed with yoghurt. I'm sure the film would sell...
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
Post by: Oddboy on 15 May, 2002, 08:10:05 PM
We all wanted it to be Harrison Ford since the eighties when Dredd movies were first thought about and the only thing that's changed is that they're both a lot older now.  So it'd still work.

P.S. The other Batman was George Clooney.
Title: Re: Dredd Movie Gossips
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