As the title suggets. Any movies you haven't seen --but should?
I'll go first... Back to the future :-[
Quote from: Apestrife on 20 October, 2019, 10:01:40 AM
As the title suggets. Any movies you haven't seen --but should?
I'll go first... Back to the future :-[
I read the title of the thread and was about to post the exact same movie. Oddly I know the plot from start to finish, thanks to a little booklet that came free with Weetabix.
It hardly seems worth watching now as an adult; it's something that would have amazed me as a kid but I can't be arsed now.
I also haven't seen any of the Avengers films; I just can't seem to bring myself to care about Marvel characters. Thing is, I know they're better than the Snyder DC films, and I've seen all of them.
I've never seen any of the Godfather films.
I don't generally enjoy mafia films, so I'll probably never bother.
Ferris Bueller's Day Off. It seems to be a generational touchstone for many of my friends, and I've seen a lot of the John Hughes films before and after, but that particular one passed me by.
Quote from: Greg M. on 20 October, 2019, 12:21:51 PM
Ferris Bueller's Day Off. It seems to be a generational touchstone for many of my friends, and I've seen a lot of the John Hughes films before and after, but that particular one passed me by.
Me too, now you mention it. Again seems like something the younger me would have liked a lot but not the present me.
Quote from: JamesC on 20 October, 2019, 12:12:23 PM
I've never seen any of the Godfather films. I don't generally enjoy mafia films, so I'll probably never bother.
Yeah, but what about stuff that's right in your wheelhouse?
As a nerd, I've known I should see
Metropolis since I was eight. I've watched (and loved)
Things To Come,
Nosferatu and
M, so none of those formats* are a problem for me.
I've watched the start of
Metropolis a few times, but because it's a black and white, subtitled film from the twenties, BBC2 always stuck it on late at night and I dozed off.
That's no excuse now. It's on Youtube (https://youtu.be/-I9FD21k7Cs), but I'm typing this instead of watching it.
* Monochrome, sci-fi, silent
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 20 October, 2019, 12:01:21 PM
It hardly seems worth watching now as an adult; it's something that would have amazed me as a kid but I can't be arsed now.
I re-watched BttF on the big screen when they re-released it for the 30th anniversary, having not seen it in many years. Honestly, it's great. From its long opening shot that loads up so much information, to the realisation that
"Ostracised scientist illegally acquires nuclear material for his unauthorised time travel experiments and falls foul of the terrorists who sold it to him" would have made an entire movie in 2019 but is the
first ten minutes of this film and serves only to get you to the
actual plot...it's brilliantly made, the plot advances relentlessly but entirely logically (within its own terms!) and the performances are universally great.
The Princess Bride. I mean, I've seen a few clips, but I've never managed to make it much past the framing sequence in which Grant Goggans tells bedtime stories to Kevin Arnold. I think I may even have bought the DVD and I still haven't watched it.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 October, 2019, 12:46:58 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 20 October, 2019, 12:01:21 PM
It hardly seems worth watching now as an adult; it's something that would have amazed me as a kid but I can't be arsed now.
I re-watched BttF on the big screen when they re-released it for the 30th anniversary, having not seen it in many years. Honestly, it's great. From its long opening shot that loads up so much information, to the realisation that "Ostracised scientist illegally acquires nuclear material for his unauthorised time travel experiments and falls foul of the terrorists who sold it to him" would have made an entire movie in 2019 but is the first ten minutes of this film and serves only to get you to the actual plot...it's brilliantly made, the plot advances relentlessly but entirely logically (within its own terms!) and the performances are universally great.
Hmmmm... maybe it's not too late.
That Ingmar Bergman one with the dinosaurs.
Quote from: JamesC on 20 October, 2019, 12:12:23 PM
I've never seen any of the Godfather films.
Me neither. People think I'm insane when I tell them. Also, Reservoir Dogs, It's a Wonderful Life, neither Paddington, the Dark Knight(s), Inception and Interstellar.
Jayzus should definitely give BttF (all three!) a go. Although on a recent rewatch I found the way the attempted rape was presented quite disturbing and unnecessarily protracted. See also: Robin Hood Prince of Thieves (but if you haven't, please don't).
Taxi Driver , Raging Bull and all the Godfathers after version 1
The Godfather movies aren't gangster movies so much as they're just
two of the best movies ever made: they're the reason why cinema. The second one is a little harder to follow than the first (mostly the intertwined modern era section), but as cinematic art there's nothing to beat them (although I leave the door open for other movies to match their quality).
But I'm sure you've heard all that before.
I should really get around to Isle of Dogs (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5104604/) and The Little Prince (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1754656/?ref_=ttls_li_tt).
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QuoteAlso, Reservoir Dogs, It's a Wonderful Life, neither Paddington, the Dark Knight(s), Inception and Interstellar.
The only one in that list that perhaps harms your cinematic curriculum vitae by its omission is It's A Wonderful Life. Whether you read it as powerful moral fable or conservative manifesto, well: how many movies even bring up that question? (Not to dis the others - they each have their own cultural significance.)
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 20 October, 2019, 12:01:21 PM
I also haven't seen any of the Avengers films; I just can't seem to bring myself to care about Marvel characters. Thing is, I know they're better than the Snyder DC films, and I've seen all of them.
After the first one neither have I (not that I thought the first one was bad I should say it was fine) nor Guardians of the Galaxy etc etc.
Quote from: TordelBack on 20 October, 2019, 03:08:15 PM
... Inception and Interstellar....
There's new films like this that don't even register on my list of films - as nerds - we expected to see. This worries me even more.
Also how hard is everyone else having to bite their lips to not scream NNNNOOOOO!!!! Watch it - at some folks. It would defeat the purpose (as I see it) of this thread to start doing that but HOT DAMN its tricky!
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 20 October, 2019, 03:43:41 PM
Also how hard is everyone else having to bite their lips to not scream NNNNOOOOO!!!! Watch it - at some folks. It would defeat the purpose (as I see it) of this thread to start doing that but HOT DAMN its tricky!
Too late for me, Colin: but at least I mashed it up with some confessions of my own. Metropolis is one I've also tried at and failed to sit through. (And I managed Nosferatu!)
Quote from: Funt Solo on 20 October, 2019, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 20 October, 2019, 03:43:41 PM
Also how hard is everyone else having to bite their lips to not scream NNNNOOOOO!!!! Watch it - at some folks. It would defeat the purpose (as I see it) of this thread to start doing that but HOT DAMN its tricky!
Too late for me, Colin: but at least I mashed it up with some confessions of my own. Metropolis is one I've also tried at and failed to sit through. (And I managed Nosferatu!)
Ha! That one was posted as I was posting me - I was so proud of everyone up to that point...
...you are of course right though.
Quote from: I, Cosh on 20 October, 2019, 02:47:48 PM
That Ingmar Bergman one with the dinosaurs.
Wild Stegosaurusesrejected: Fanny & Allosaur, Scenes From A Megaladon
Taxi Driver, Deer Hunter, Platoon, Inception, Delicatessen, Brazil, The Man Who Fell To Earth, Things To Come, 20 Million Miles To Earth, Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind, Stalker, Repo Man, Videodrome, Cube, World's End, and many more - though I shall hopefully get around to the small pile of dvds nearby and correct most of these in the coming months.
Quote from: TordelBack on 20 October, 2019, 03:08:15 PMneither Paddington
I will save you the trouble: Colonialism and the refugee crisis are whitewashed from the history of Britain, THE END. The Paddington movies are the equivalent of watching the 2012 Olympic opening ceremony for 300 minutes and are loved only by children who know no better and adults who secretly vote Tory.
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
I thought I'd seen Superman, but...
(https://www.maxim.com/.image/t_share/MTU0MTc4MDQ4MTQ3NTk2NjI0/nicolas-cage-superman-main.jpg)
Quote from: Professor Bear on 20 October, 2019, 06:15:03 PM
Taxi Driver, Deer Hunter, Platoon, Inception, Delicatessen, Brazil, The Man Who Fell To Earth, Things To Come, 20 Million Miles To Earth, Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind, Stalker, Repo Man, Videodrome, Cube, World's End, and many more
FFS. Given some of the stuff you post about watching, I think we really need to teach you the meaning of the word "priority".
I have seen Robot Jox at least 16 times. My conscience is clear.
I can accept many failings in the otherwise-wise, but this....
Quote from: Professor Bear on 20 October, 2019, 06:15:03 PM
Brazil
...is very disappointing information.
And yet I have seen Meet The Spartans, so it all balances out.
Quote from: Funt Solo on 20 October, 2019, 07:04:53 PM
I thought I'd seen Superman, but...
(https://www.maxim.com/.image/t_share/MTU0MTc4MDQ4MTQ3NTk2NjI0/nicolas-cage-superman-main.jpg)
I prefer the costume to the Snyder version. But... you know... Nicholas Cage.
My most egregious missed film is definitely The Godfather, never seen any of them. I genuinely think I'd really enjoy them too, so every time I remember it exists I'm surprised and confused that I haven't gotten round to it yet.
Another who hasn't seen Godfather here (though I keep meaning to see Robot Jox, I've had a copy for a year or two now).
I must have seen The Godfather and it's sequels hundreds of times.
First time I saw it was when I was around 8 years old and despite being an avid horror film fan during that young period it was a scene in The Godfather that gave me nightmares for some time.
[spoiler]The horse's head in the bed scene.[/spoiler]
I'm very cautious about watching as many so called 'classic movies' as possible. No point rushing them, they're never out of print or off streaming services, hence why i've never seen
Lawrence of Arabia, Trainspotting, Oliver!, or Dead Mans Shoes despite all being ingrained in internet and global pop culture. I'll get around to them eventually, along with a lot of movies already covered.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 20 October, 2019, 07:18:15 PM
I have seen Robot Jox at least 16 times. My conscience is clear.
Ditto.
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 21 October, 2019, 11:15:26 AM
I'm very cautious about watching as many so called 'classic movies' as possible. No point rushing them, they're never out of print or off streaming services, hence why i've never seen Lawrence of Arabia, Trainspotting, Oliver!, or Dead Mans Shoes despite all being ingrained in internet and global pop culture. I'll get around to them eventually, along with a lot of movies already covered.
Never even heard of Dead Mans Shoes - is this a recent film?
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 21 October, 2019, 11:15:26 AM
I'm very cautious about watching as many so called 'classic movies' as possible. No point rushing them, they're never out of print or off streaming services, hence why i've never seen Lawrence of Arabia, Trainspotting, Oliver!, or Dead Mans Shoes despite all being ingrained in internet and global pop culture. I'll get around to them eventually, along with a lot of movies already covered.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 20 October, 2019, 07:18:15 PM
I have seen Robot Jox at least 16 times. My conscience is clear.
Ditto.
I watched Lawrence of Arabia a few years ago and didn't enjoy it at all. The theme is a lovely piece of music but bloody hell is it overplayed in the film! They may as well have just had it on repeat non-stop.
Thinking about it, there are loads of classic westerns I'd like to see. The trouble is, I get mixed up with what's what. I don't think I've ever seen High Noon, The Shootist, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. There are loads.
Quote from: sheridan on 21 October, 2019, 11:35:33 AM
Never even heard of Dead Mans Shoes - is this a recent film?
Even if you've never seen the movie, you'll have seen clips or gifs around the internet. It's the one where Paddy Considine goes ape shit.
Quote from: JamesC on 21 October, 2019, 11:35:44 AM
Thinking about it, there are loads of classic westerns I'd like to see. The trouble is, I get mixed up with what's what. I don't think I've ever seen High Noon, The Shootist, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. There are loads.
Definitely get around to seeing High Noon, it is, and no shit, an absolute masterpiece.
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 21 October, 2019, 10:53:31 AM
I must have seen The Godfather and it's sequels hundreds of times.
Like who hasn't?
And I bet these
fottuti falsi were tuning in to The Sopranos every week too.
Quote from: Link Prime on 21 October, 2019, 11:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 21 October, 2019, 10:53:31 AM
I must have seen The Godfather and it's sequels hundreds of times.
Like who hasn't?
And I bet these fottuti falsi were tuning in to The Sopranos every week too.
Many haven't according to some of the comments in this thread.
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 21 October, 2019, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: Link Prime on 21 October, 2019, 11:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 21 October, 2019, 10:53:31 AM
I must have seen The Godfather and it's sequels hundreds of times.
Like who hasn't?
And I bet these fottuti falsi were tuning in to The Sopranos every week too.
Many haven't according to some of the comments in this thread.
Me included. I've seen parts of one of two but I've never seen them all the way through.
I think I actually bought it on VHS. Will into the time period when I was already watching Blu-ray.
I was with a friend and we happened on a video shop whose downstairs was full of video tapes going extremely cheaply, as you could imagine. I bought it with a couple of other things on a whim, really.
Never got round to watching it, and now I don't think I've got anything to watch it ON.
Also never seen the Rambo films all the way through. I think I saw chunks of the first (very late) and got the gist of what was going on. Never much appealed despite me liking Swazzenegger action films like Commando back in the day.
The Rambo movies change drastically as they progress - the first one is more a drama about a traumatised Vietnam veteran terrorising a small town, and then the next one is about the terrifying monster from the previous movie being a good guy now because he kills communists instead of cops. In the third movie he teams up with Al Qaeda.
Quote from: JamesC on 21 October, 2019, 11:35:44 AMThinking about it, there are loads of classic westerns I'd like to see. The trouble is, I get mixed up with what's what. I don't think I've ever seen High Noon, The Shootist, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. There are loads.
"Think back, Pilgrim..." Even with it's unforgivable lack of giant fighting robots, I can't recommend
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance enough.
The paradigm began shifting long before, but post-1990s Westerns - thanks to high-profile superstar vehicles like
Unforgiven and
Dances With Wolves - cemented the idea in audiences that the Wild West might not have been great if you weren't a cis white dude living out a fantasy life as an outlaw beholden to none. Before that, Westerns were largely a means of disseminating the myth of American exceptionalism, manifest destiny, and white supremacy, and
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance still works on both sides of the 1990s because it's expressly about how a white man gets everything he wanted by lying to voters, how people believe myths over the truth, and how the media are propagandists in a mutually-beneficial relationship with the ruling classes.
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 21 October, 2019, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: Link Prime on 21 October, 2019, 11:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mattofthespurs on 21 October, 2019, 10:53:31 AM
I must have seen The Godfather and it's sequels hundreds of times.
Like who hasn't?
And I bet these fottuti falsi were tuning in to The Sopranos every week too.
Many haven't according to some of the comments in this thread.
< The Rock rolling his eyes Gif >
I've never seen Seven Samurai, or
any Disney animated movie (the whole way through).
OK dude, for the love of god, WATCH SEVEN SAMURAI.
And Throne of Blood....and Hidden Fortress....and Yojimbo and Sanjuro.
I've never watched Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Repo Man, or Casablanca. I'm sure there's many more.
Quote from: von Boom on 21 October, 2019, 04:36:25 PM
I've never watched Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Repo Man, or Casablanca. I'm sure there's many more.
I'm not sure these (and other mainstream classics mentioned above) are too much of a shocker on a board populated by sci-fi nerds who were too young to see those films in cinemas.
Who among us will admit never having seen
Star Trek, Star Wars, Terminator, Aliens or Robocop? Despite
worshipping James Cameron since I was the literal ten-year-old boy to whose ass Bill Paxton's sleazeball character compares that of Jamie Lee-Curtis (in
True Lies (https://youtu.be/LuTvA1_NNSo)), I've never watched
Avatar.
Premise did nothing for me, thought the effects looked lame, but assumed I'd watch it on video or catch it on telly. When Channel 4 showed it, it started at 6pm and finished at 10pm - fuck that. Now there are
four of them.
Avatar occupies this strange place in sci-fi pop culture. Everyone's heard of it. Most have seen it. Damned if anyone actually give a shit about it though.
Avatar's just not very good. It's an amazing spectacle, but it's got no soul (despite desperately trying to have one).
Just watch Aliens and read The Lorax: you'll save time and it'll be more culturally significant.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 21 October, 2019, 02:35:04 PM
... The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance still works on both sides of the 1990s because it's expressly about how a white man gets everything he wanted by lying to voters, how people believe myths over the truth, and how the media are propagandists in a mutually-beneficial relationship with the ruling classes.
Pro Bear's gift for creating entertaining and ingenious ideological (mis)readings of shit films has, for once, deserted him. That's exactly what the fantastic
Liberty Valance is about.
John Ford was still an obnoxious wee wanker, though. Even if
The Searchers (https://youtu.be/SlWT8kTccHw) has a good claim on the title
Greatest Film Of All Time.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 21 October, 2019, 02:35:04 PM
The Rambo movies change drastically as they progress - the first one is more a drama about a traumatised Vietnam veteran terrorising a small town, and then the next one is about the terrifying monster from the previous movie being a good guy now because he kills communists instead of cops. In the third movie he teams up with Al Qaeda.
Sright. I remember watching
Rambo : First Blood Part 2 as a kid, and thinking it was absolutely amazing. Tried again a few years ago and had to turn it off halfway through out of boredom. First Blood remains brilliant though; where Sly is more Raoul Moate than John Wayne.
Quote from: Frank on 20 October, 2019, 12:41:57 PM
I've watched the start of Metropolis a few times, but because it's a black and white, subtitled film from the twenties, BBC2 always stuck it on late at night and I dozed off.
Watched it and didn't snore once! Reviewing a classic is pointless
*, but I was struck by how beautiful the cinematography and production design are. I watched
The Lady Vanishes around the same time, which is great, but, like most US and UK films of the period, looks like a pool of sick next to this.
And the performances are
wild! Lang's
M is one of my favourite movies, but the tone of the acting in that is mostly naturalistic, apart from Lorre's deranged killer. In Metropolis, *EVERYONE* is giving it the full Nicolas Cage
**, maybe because they were stage actors who felt they had to compensate for the lack of dialogue?
The actress who plays Maria is never done clutching her boobs to express emotion and the youthful male lead (a middle-aged man in Kabuki slap) reacts to discovering her
*** in the arms of his father by miming a seal balancing on a beach ball for at least a minute (in long shot, too).
It's a truly brilliant film, but it reminded me of an
awful film. The ruler of a vast future city conspires with an outcast to foment disorder using a robot that gives me a hard-on - and the whole thing ends with a rooftop fight and the villain falling from a high building.
William Wisher definitely screened this before he wrote the screenplay for the 1995 Stallone film.
* On the Chart Music podcast (https://chartmusiccouk.wordpress.com/), host Al Needham usually provides a short biographical introduction to each featured act, but when a show covers an episode of Top Of The Pops containing a performance by an artist who's become part of the furniture of public life he'll begin FORMED AS THE QUARRYMEN IN LIVERPOOL IN 1960, THE BEATLES ARE *THE*FUCKING*BEATLES*, before getting on with the discussion of this specific performance, since there's nothing new to be said about a topic on which everyone already has an entrenched opinion
** When Cage was doing the rounds for Mandy, he described what he was aspiring to in his more hysterical and mannered performances as German Expressionism. The only reference point I had for that was Lorre in M, but I can see this was probably a much greater influence
*** Her robot equivalent, anyway. Special mention must be made of Brigitte Helm's fantastic characterisation of Metal Maria, whose droopy eyelid and bizarre posture (neck thrust forward at shoulder height) allow her to be distinguished from her fleshy progenitor. She also performs the least sexy Sexy Dance committed to film - not sure whether that's because she's a robot or because she's German (https://youtu.be/pJWhaRz7_VA)
Quote from: Frank on 10 November, 2019, 02:55:06 PM
** When Cage was doing the rounds for Mandy, he described what he was aspiring to in his more hysterical and mannered performances as German Expressionism. The only reference point I had for that was Lorre in M, but I can see this was probably a much greater influence
Cage built his career on being Timothy Carey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJDkLgwJopQ
https://youtu.be/JkqQFS4GWak?t=104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egRbQ_ZsToQ
Quote from: Frank on 10 November, 2019, 02:55:06 PM
The ruler of a vast future city conspires with an outcast to foment disorder using a robot that gives me a hard-on -
Hammerstein gives you a hard-on????? :o
My account was hacked.
Quote from: Frank on 10 November, 2019, 02:55:06 PM
And the performances are wild! Lang's M is one of my favourite movies, but the tone of the acting in that is mostly naturalistic, apart from Lorre's deranged killer. In Metropolis, *EVERYONE* is giving it the full Nicolas Cage**, maybe because they were stage actors who felt they had to compensate for the lack of dialogue?
It's an amazing piece of work alright. While I'm no expert on cinema history (did a tiny bit of it for my degree many years ago, but that's it) I think that movie actors took a long time to get over the fact that you didn't need to enunciate loudly and gesticulate exaggeratedly for the sake of the people in the back row any more.
It was the likes of Brando, iirc, who helped bring more naturalistic method acting to Hollywood films. This was of course before the tragic citrus-based death that inspired the name of his last ever movie.
I thought it was set on a submarine? Or was it a sandwich?
The advent of sound/dialogue profoundly changed the acting style. Initially because it limited movement as the recording sound equipment for on-set dialogue was cumbersome (microphones hidden in plants, lamps and other props) and didn't allow for too much prancing and wild gesticulation from actors – and of course actors didn't need to exaggerate emotion through performance once writers could put words in their mouths, or not, as the case may be.
The ability of film-makers/actors to punctuate scenes with a more sophisticated soundtrack of sound and silence in dialogue changed the dynamic but it took a few decades to get back to the more elaborate staging and visual dynamism that evolved in the language of the silents.