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: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: IndigoPrime 01 November, 2019, 12:29:58 PM
Rebellion is pleased to announce a limited pre-order for the hardcover edition of the first volume of The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire. (https://2000ad.com/post/6118)
 
Available to pre-order exclusively through the Treasury of British Comics webshop between 1st November and 4th December, this individually numbered 304-page special edition hardcover will ship in March 2020.
 
Featuring stunning artwork taken from crisp scans of Don Lawrence original artwork, this first volume includes a touching introduction from Liam Sharp (Green Lantern), who – along with Judge Dredd artist Chris Weston – was mentored by Lawrence early in his career.
 
Co-created by Mike Butterworth and Don Lawrence, The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire merges the movie serials of the 1930s, Flash Gordon, John Carter, and ancient history into a sprawling, classic science-fiction epic. It has been named as a major influence by the likes of writer Neil Gaiman (Sandman), artist Dave Gibbons (Watchmen) and Brian Bolland (Judge Dredd), amongst many others. This special hardcover edition perfectly showcases the remarkable talent of Lawrence, who is rightfully regarded as one of the finest artists in British comics history.
 
Rebellion is offering this limited-time pre-order to give fans the opportunity to own a slice of history in a sumptuous hardcover that will have pride of place on any shelf.
 
A paperback collection of volume one will also be available in March from all good retailers and comic book stores – the first time the series has been collected in a mass market edition.
 
Originally published in the anthology title Ranger from September 1965, and Look and Learn from June 19966 until April 1982, the series told the story of an alien empire on the planet Elekton that was heavily influenced by history, particularly that of the Roman Empire. Created by Mike Butterworth, who died in 1986, and artist Don Lawrence, who died in 2004, the series’ mix of political intrigue and Lawrence’s lush painted artwork won a host of fans worldwide, and proved to be highly influential, inspiring a generation of comic book creators with its depth and beauty.
 
Don, who started out as a comics creator in the Gower Street Studios in London, first working on Marvelman before moving on to Karl the Viking for Lion. Other artists who worked on the strip include Ron Embleton, Miguel Quesada, Philip Corke, Oliver Frey and Gerry Wood.
 
Although the strip has seen only limited English-language release it remains one of the most popular comic series in Holland and Germany, with over two million albums sold.
 
The limited edition Don Lawrence cover hardcover of volume one of The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire is available to order now from www.treasuryofbritishcomics.com, until 4th December.

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: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: TordelBack 01 November, 2019, 01:14:18 PM
Soooo tempting. Having only read early TE in whatever battered Look&Learns our school library had retained, I was going to be getting the TPB anyway, buuuut...
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: karlos 01 November, 2019, 02:31:11 PM
Many thanks for the heads up - will be ordering this beauty tonight!
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Tjm86 01 November, 2019, 05:57:27 PM
Dear Rebellion

thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, ......


(and ordered ....)

Mind you, if they only do this for the first volume ....

Ah well, one is better than none I 'suppose.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Jade Falcon 04 November, 2019, 12:55:37 AM
I remember getting the 12 volume set from the Don Lawrence collection which is going for silly money nowadays.

Example here

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIGAN-EMPIRE-Vol-1-H-C-Don-Lawrence-Look-Learn-Limited-Edition/264507399234?hash=item3d95de9c42:g:iBsAAOSwePtdGQmi

What I'd like to know, is that if they're doing all of Don Lawrence's artwork, are they going to do the others.

We also had artwork by Ron Embleton (who I believe did some Dan Dare), Oliver Frey, Gerry Wood and Phillip Corke.  That's still a substantial portion and I'd be interested in them.  I understand why the DON LAWRENCE collection wouldn't do them for obvious reasons. :)
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Tjm86 21 November, 2019, 05:51:42 PM
Chris Weston's cover for the first volume is a thing of beauty.  I would love it if that was the cover for the hardback and included a print.

Hell, if Rebellion did a print of it I would pay cold hard cash for it.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: broodblik 21 November, 2019, 06:43:50 PM
The cover by Chris Weston is just plain awesome:

(https://2000ad.com/assets/pimg/00/6e/cf.jpg)
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: broodblik 22 November, 2019, 03:47:55 PM
Some move from Chris Weston:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ_DbGyX0AAcFRK.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ_DbGzXkAEPOtq.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ_DbG9XUAA4SYQ.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ_DbGzXUAEJAhP.jpg)
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Bolt-01 22 November, 2019, 03:49:45 PM
Just lovely...
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Jade Falcon 22 November, 2019, 05:43:05 PM
Better than most of the covers on my limited editions, but I'd still like to know if the post Don Lawrence material will be done
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Tjm86 22 November, 2019, 08:04:03 PM
Turns out this will be for the FP limited edition.   :'(

Dear Rebellion, please can we have these a set of prints?
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Timothy 22 November, 2019, 10:35:03 PM
Not eligible for the 50% subscriber discount. Grrr.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: TordelBack 22 November, 2019, 11:47:04 PM
Weston is unbelievably good at this. Someone - possibly Kek-W, but I'm not fussy - needs to reboot Trigan Empire and install Chris as permanent artist. I've my subs money right here.

My fave is the cover with Trigo, Peric and Janno. Drool.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Jade Falcon 23 November, 2019, 01:37:51 AM
My fave is the cover with Trigo, Peric and Janno. Drool.

Which one, there are two covers with Trigo, Peric and Janno?

: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: TordelBack 23 November, 2019, 06:24:06 AM
So there are! Sword rather than spear, then.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: The Monarch 24 November, 2019, 01:13:45 PM
sooo whens that chris weston one availible same as the normal one?
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: I, Cosh 28 November, 2019, 09:54:22 AM
sooo whens that chris weston one availible same as the normal one?
Might have misunderstood but I think that one is only available from Forbidden Planet. So whenever they get stock in, I guess.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Tomwe 28 November, 2019, 10:18:09 AM
sooo whens that chris weston one availible same as the normal one?

29 March 2020. You can preorder it here (https://forbiddenplanet.com/291131-rise-fall-of-the-trigan-empire-volume-1-chris-weston-limited-edition-hardcover/)
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: rs_jr 28 November, 2019, 07:40:27 PM
how many books will be needed to collect he whole series?

On the amazon page the back of the book says its the first volume collecting all the stories done by Lawrence, is this just for the Trigan Empire or all other stories done by Lawrence ?
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Jade Falcon 28 November, 2019, 10:16:16 PM
The Don Lawrence Collection books were rather thin, but they were Broadsheet size books almost, about the same size as the Hawk Publishing Dan Dare books.

I really hope more than the Don Lawrence books get done if these are succesful as I want to see the other stories.  Up till now, bar buying the magazines, the Don Lawrence collection books are the only ones that were unedited.  The original Hamlyn book and even the Hawk Publishing book years back had large parts cut from the stories.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: rs_jr 29 November, 2019, 12:16:51 AM
you guys think storm will be collected next?
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: broodblik 29 November, 2019, 01:57:32 PM
you guys think storm will be collected next?

I do not think Storm is owned by Rebellion
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: 73north 26 January, 2020, 01:25:37 PM
how many books will be needed to collect he whole series?

On the amazon page the back of the book says its the first volume collecting all the stories done by Lawrence, is this just for the Trigan Empire or all other stories done by Lawrence ?

Just confirm - there will be 4 Volumes of the Trigan Empire - see the link for confirmation

https://forbiddenplanet.com/290197-rise-fall-of-the-trigan-empire-volume-1/
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: broodblik 26 January, 2020, 01:34:27 PM
The second volume is scheduled for November and will be 288 pages
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Tjm86 26 January, 2020, 04:12:09 PM
Suppose if it is just 4 volumes then there is a reasonable chance that Rebellion will do all four in hardback as well.  Then again it is a bit of a challenge to figure out the thinking behind their publishing decisions at times.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: IndigoPrime 27 January, 2020, 10:30:53 AM
Then again it is a bit of a challenge to figure out the thinking behind their publishing decisions at times.
It all comes down to the likelihood of people buying stuff. There’s no point in creating beautiful books if they don’t sell, and Brits don’t tend to buy a lot of hardcovers. (Personally, I’d much prefer HC collections from Rebellion, and especially of the sort Image does – no dust jacket; oversized; 300-odd pages. However, the market’s seemingly not interested. At least Rebellion’s often catering for the hardcore with the limited-run hardcovers, although I do get the impression that Nemesis one caught them by surprise.)
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: CalHab 27 January, 2020, 12:39:54 PM
At least Rebellion’s often catering for the hardcore with the limited-run hardcovers, although I do get the impression that Nemesis one caught them by surprise.)

It shouldn't have! The reproduction on the Nemesis phone books is not good, so as well as the normal demand for specials there are a lot of people who would like a good version of some classic stories.

I'm still irritated about the way Rebellion put those out.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: IndigoPrime 27 January, 2020, 01:23:31 PM
It’s always a crapshoot. Still, it could be worse. Dark Horse, in its infinite wisdom, put out the first Usagi Yojimbo collection as a limited run of 950, and subsequent ones as 1500. So that means 550 people can never have a complete collection.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: CalHab 27 January, 2020, 02:16:49 PM
Yeah, that sounds daft! Rebellion do normally seem on top of these things, they just made an absolute hash of that one. The fact their PR announcement seemed to exist solely on Facebook also irritated me a lot.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: IndigoPrime 27 January, 2020, 02:29:17 PM
The announcement was first on the email list, which is the best bet to hear about things immediately, and only then went to social media. But people were heard on this, which is also why we’ve been using the forum’s announcement thread for press release material as well.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: CalHab 27 January, 2020, 02:48:48 PM
The announcement was first on the email list, which is the best bet to hear about things immediately, and only then went to social media.

I assume the email list isn't sent out all at once then, because I received the email and immediately went to the shop to find it was sold out. I then discovered that people had been discussing it on Facebook for some time before.

Regardless, it's in the past. It would have been nice if Rebellion had acknowledged that they handled it badly and that future releases would be different.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: O Lucky Stevie! 28 January, 2020, 04:18:53 AM
Was the limited, English-language edition printed by Rebellion or Delirium?
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: JOE SOAP 28 January, 2020, 07:10:18 AM
Was the limited, English-language edition printed by Rebellion or Delirium?

Printed by Delirium.
: Re: The Rise and Fall of the Trigan Empire limited hardcover announced
: Steve Green 28 January, 2020, 08:52:34 AM
The announcement was first on the email list, which is the best bet to hear about things immediately, and only then went to social media. But people were heard on this, which is also why we’ve been using the forum’s announcement thread for press release material as well.

I believe it was first mentioned on Delirium's social media, but then got deleted.