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Books & Comics / Animal Man
« on: 21 April, 2009, 01:06:47 PM »
Not sure if anybody will be interested but saw this and since Morrison was a hot topic of conversation in these parts not too long ago thought that people might be interested in reading this excellent apprasial of what is, along with 'Zenith', my favourite ever run in comics (well maybe 'Asterix' and Eisner's 'Spirit' but I'd be getting off track on my own post if I started debating that now!) his exceptional run on 'Animal Man'

http://http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/04/20/comics-you-should-own-flashback-animal-man-1-32/

Seems particularly relevent as none other than the great Gerry Conway has a new 'Animal Man' series launching in a months time.

http://http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/comics/?cm=11700

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General / Re: Nikolai Dante - Is It All Just A Dream?
« on: 21 April, 2009, 10:09:46 AM »
Yeah have to agree it'd be a real shame if the current storyline turned out to be some kinda torture induced hallunication as its been done before. I expect there's many a twist and turn to be had but just hope its not that one, well unless it surprises me in the way its executed? Maybe the 'dream' could the the Tzars way of extracting Dante's underlaying paln... nah that doesn't really work either. Fingers crossed the story doesn't move in that direction.

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Film & TV / Re: Who to play Dredd
« on: 21 April, 2009, 08:43:35 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again (no doubt) but I completely agree that Ron Perlman would be the perfect choice.

What is it with Jason Stratham and being linked with cult characters? I've even seen people on web boards link him with Doctor Who???!!!???? Nowt against the fella haven't seen a film with him in for years just not sure why his name is always banded around?

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Books & Comics / Re: Confused about inking.
« on: 19 April, 2009, 06:13:43 PM »
Excuse the double post but this is a good example as well. This blog entry (I've not read it to be honest so I'll not vouch for it) has a lot of Frank Miller inked by Klaus Janson (spelling AGAIN!). The last four pages however are inked by Terry Austin. All examples can be clicked on and expanded to a good size.

http://http://blindedmewithcomics.blogspot.com/2009/04/ballet-of-violence-frank-miller-and.html

What I like about this example is that even though Miller's pencilling style and great use of Eisner inspired shadows to create drama and atmosphere in panels shines through all examples I think both inkers style is also highlighted. Janson appears to be looser but is bolder and because of that really emphasises Miller's tones. Austin for all his talent I find fussy very often and I think this comes across here. Too many lines, too much careful detail actually detracts from the storytelling. All subjective but hopefully regardless of how you read it the difference in style and the impact they have is evident?

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Books & Comics / Re: Confused about inking.
« on: 19 April, 2009, 05:58:20 PM »
Unfortunately I don't have a scanner but I thought it'd be easy enough get a scan online. The Avengers Annual wasn't a problem but could I heck find a scan from FF Annual 19. So anyway instead I did manage to find an Avengers cover from about 2 years earlier with Sinnott (who's name I can now spell!) inking Byrne and though its not ideal hopefully the two will go some way to illustrating the point.

Baker: http://http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/3307219043_2c17b04a3d_o.jpg

Sinnott: http://http://www.coollinesartwork.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=241729&ArtistId=503&Details=1&From=Room

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Film & TV / Re: Watchmen
« on: 19 April, 2009, 04:33:59 PM »
Quote from: "garageman"
Retrocasting: I think Simon baker would have made an ideal Ozymandias.



Yeah based on looks alone he's completely there.

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Books & Comics / Re: Confused about inking.
« on: 19 April, 2009, 04:32:24 PM »
Quote from: "Matt Timson"
You fool, Wells!  ;)

Pretty much what Dyl said, really.  The only thing I'd add to that is that one of the reasons pencils and inks get split up- apart from the obvious time advantages- is that some people are just better suited to one job or the other, or one will bring out the best in the other.  OK, so that's two things- but you get the general gist.

I think a good example of somebody who benefits from a good inker is John Byrne.  Terry Austin, IMO, really brought out the best in his work on X-Men, while some of his Fantastic Four issues that he inked himself were a bit 'blotchy'.  Obviously, not everyone agrees with this assessment- which is kind of point.

A really good place to look is Fantastic Four annual #19 and Avengers annual #14, as both are penciled by Byrne, but inked by Joe Sinnott and Kyle Baker, respectively.  As it's a crossover, with the same story being told from two different perspectives, some of the panels are identical- so you can really see what a difference the choice of inker makes.



A horribly quick google didn't yield any of the identical panels- but I bet you could find them if you looked.  I remember preferring Baker's scratchy, more 'realistic', look to Sinnott's super-polished inks at the time.  As most of my tastes have changed since then, I'd be interested to read them again now.  Unfortunately, they went in the bin years ago.

That's a great example. Have both those books and since they were done my the same penciler at the same time the 'only' difference being different inkers if you don't understand the importance an inker can have then this will sort it out.

While I think the split penciler inker role in US comics is almost certainly born from the studio system from the 'golden age' and the ability this gave the best arts to produce more and more work its become so mcu more and I truely believe is now about the artistic value, in some instances, of having two people with different skill sets working on the finished product.

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Events / Re: Bristol Expo 2009
« on: 19 April, 2009, 09:09:16 AM »
Didn't realise Dan Didio was attending. That'll certainly be interesting. Shame I can't go.

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Books & Comics / Re: Confused about inking.
« on: 18 April, 2009, 03:22:49 PM »
Its one of these things you can understand quite easily if you look at comic art with the question in mind. a good example to start with is early Fantastic Four. The early issues while still clearly Jack Kirby don't look half as good as those inked by Joe Sinneot. When he comes on board, around issue 40 I believe the art goes up a level and I think its pretty clear. The funny thing is I'm not fan of Sinneot in general, say when he inked Byrne, but with Kirby it just works.
Or look at Frank Miller inked by the brillant Klaus Janson in say Daredevil and then inked by anybody else and it clear what the inker adds.

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Film & TV / Re: 1 HOBBIT, 2 FILMS
« on: 18 April, 2009, 09:35:46 AM »
Quote from: "TordelBack"
No chance of doing The Hobbit in the style of, say, The Hobbit?  A lovely children's book that I used to read to my little brother, and now my own sprog?

Surely you could fit it all into one 2 hour movie?  30 mins form Introductions and the road to Rivendell, 30 mins from Gollum to the Elven dungeon, 30 Mins for Laketown and Smaug, then 30 mins for the BotFA and wrap-up?  It only has four or maybe five main characters (including Smaug), and then a few cameos for Elrond, Gollum, the Great Foblin,  Beorn and maybe Bard.  I do fancy the idea of filling in all the blanks of Dol Guldur and the Necromancer, but a film of The Hobbit might be nice too...

Still, Del Toro = Optimism.

Couldn't agree more there is so much wrong with Hollywood at the moment. Now so short of their own ideas they need to take a simple child's book and stretch it across two films. No doubt each will be 3 hours long. I wish the American film industry would remember that it used to be capable of telling a good story in 1.30 - 2 hours not continually crank out 3 hour epics, or multi film saga's like this. I remember when a 3 hour film as a treat because the story deserved it, not the norm cos they like to torture peoples bums!

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Books & Comics / Re: 100 bullets
« on: 18 April, 2009, 09:31:06 AM »
In case you're not aware yet the creative team behind 100 Bullets is one of the teams behind Wednesday Comics from DC doing a Batman story.

http://http://dcublog.dccomics.com/2009/04/16/get-your-first-look-at-wednesday-comics/

Wednesday Comics just looks better and better.

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News / Re: 2000 AD Origins Exclusively From Clickwheel
« on: 17 April, 2009, 10:55:39 AM »
So am I right in saying this isn't original content just exclusive to Clickwheel online?

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Film & TV / Re: Who to play Dredd
« on: 16 April, 2009, 02:38:58 PM »
Quote from: "ThryllSeekyr"
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Clyde.

Do you think that monkey would really know it's own name?

Perhapos it might.

If you want to see me be really pedantic (and I think we're capable of it - this is the Internet after all!) call an APE a monkey. Its one  of my pet hates. Its all about the tail (or lack of) and self awareness... no really this stuff is important... really it is...

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Other Reviews / Maniac 5
« on: 16 April, 2009, 08:00:43 AM »
Ok so I rip into Purgatory for being mindless, souless ultra violent nonsense and now I'm going to praise Maniac 5 a very similar mindless bit of ultra violence. However taken out of the context that made Purgatory so unpalatable and given a little more invention Millar shows just how this type of story really can work. Its a great little simple story that has enough in it to make it really work.

Interesting writer that Millar!

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Off Topic / Re: RIPs
« on: 16 April, 2009, 07:49:34 AM »
Quote from: "Daveycandlish"
Clement Freud at 84.

Grandson of Sigmund, brother of Lucien, father of Emma - that's a talented family tree!

Just a Minute will never be the same

Yeah heard this one this morning. Great shame that, always my favourite Just a Minute panelist. Even heard him win once!

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