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Title: C&VG
Post by: -=>DEMONIZER<=- on 12 May, 2004, 04:02:49 AM

Remember COMPUTER & VIDEO GAMES magazine (C&VG)? Still going strong today after nearly 23 years - the world's oldest games monthly.

In the mid-eighties they started a comic strip featuring various... crazy robots.

I'm sure one of the creators had something to do with 2000AD - does anyone know who it was, and what the strip/characters were called?

Probably on Google, but I couldn't find it.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: -=>DEMONIZER<=- on 12 May, 2004, 04:05:07 AM

...there was a dark-haired chick in it - she might have been the boss of said robots, and they were up against... something or other...
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: WoD on 12 May, 2004, 04:25:51 AM
 more details please....should know this...
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ming on 12 May, 2004, 04:35:09 AM
This rings a bell...
was one of the robots HUGE and kind of a cross between mongrol and meq-quake?
Was the artist Jerry Parish / Parrish / Paris?

Who drew the Freefall Warriors in Captain Britain?  I have a feeling it was the same guy.
Sorry that's not much help, but hey.  
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: yadster on 12 May, 2004, 04:47:44 AM
Damn this is bugging me. I remember really enjoying the strip and the artwork been really good. Would be nice to see some reprints.

Link: Rogue Trooper cover

Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: -=>DEMONIZER<=- on 12 May, 2004, 05:26:27 AM

From patchy memory, one of the biggest robots was called "Big-"...
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: -=>DEMONIZER<=- on 12 May, 2004, 05:29:45 AM

At the risk of posting like a madman... THE BUG HUNTER! Was that the name of the strip?
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ming on 12 May, 2004, 05:40:43 AM
Correctamundo. Bug Hunters, Jerry Paris on art duties, and the big red robot was called Big Red.  Got there eventually..
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: -=>DEMONIZER<=- on 12 May, 2004, 05:42:46 AM

"was one of the robots HUGE and kind of a cross between mongrol and meq-quake?
Was the artist Jerry Parish / Parrish / Paris?"


That's the one - and the huge (orange?) robot was BIG D.

Still no sign on Google!
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Max Kon on 12 May, 2004, 05:45:18 AM

Link: was this some of it?

Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: LARF on 12 May, 2004, 05:52:09 AM
Nope, sorry Cybermax.

I rem the artwork it was a bit Jamie Hewlet early tank girl meets a young Trevor Hairsine and they conceive...

This is really bugging me now... I've done a search and found a comedian called jerry paris but not a sausage on his alter ego...
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: -=>DEMONIZER<=- on 12 May, 2004, 05:57:40 AM

Close but no cigar, Max.

Ming is spot on - Big RED (wtf, Big D?).

I'd like to see the short strips collected online!
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ming on 12 May, 2004, 05:58:43 AM
They have some of the art in Michigan State University Library, apparently (blame Google, not me).
Jerry Paris, Pedro Henry and Gary Leach.
Trident Comics are mentioned (1990), so maybe it got a reprint?
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: The Amstor Computer on 12 May, 2004, 06:04:38 AM
Wasn't "Pedro Henry" a pseudonym for Steve Moore?
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: pauljholden on 12 May, 2004, 06:07:13 AM
Jerry Paris was a fantastic artist - the only comic work (apart from Bug Hunters and Lieutenant Laww - a four armed british bobby type robot in C&VG) that I know off, was a one off strip in Action Force (The UK flavour of GI Joe) he did a Snake Eyes strip which was fantastic, I lent it to John McCrea (currently drawing Dredd) in uhm.. about 89/90 when he just got a commision from Action Force to do a snake eyes strip and he needed reference. I never saw it again. The git.

- p
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ming on 12 May, 2004, 06:09:16 AM
Yup.  And Alan Moore credits him as "the man who taught me to write comics".

Link: Pedro Henry / Steve Moore

Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ming on 12 May, 2004, 06:13:27 AM
yes he was great!  I think he did some stuff for Heavy Metal - just search in the link for 'Paris' and some stuff comes up for the mid-90's (which I've never seen, so if you find it, scan it and show us!)

Link: Jerry Paris where are you now?

Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: LARF on 12 May, 2004, 06:18:48 AM
Wasn't a pen name then? A german living in france perhaps...?

We need to know 'cos I've looked all over the place...
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ming on 12 May, 2004, 06:46:31 AM
Gah - bah - funk!

All the info was in a thread by Priv8eye (29 March) about the freefall warriors.
A reply from Chimp says that Bughunters was collected by Trident, etc.

http://www.2000adonline.com/?zone=fan&page=messagethread&choice=8756
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: chimp on 12 May, 2004, 06:51:23 PM
Yup, Trident did collect Bug Hunters, I reread it after the FreeFall Warriors thread, and very good it was too. Jerry Paris did the odd Marvel UK pin up IIRC, he?s also go a page of old art work in the ?early artwork? section of the Daredevils monthly ? which also had early work by Steve Dillon, Dave Gibbons and the excellent Paul Neary. Jerry Paris was a great artist, it was kind of odd seeing his work in a couple of children?s books recently.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Stront on 01 April, 2007, 08:18:41 PM
Check out

ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/magazines/C+VG/CVGViewer.html

I haven't had time to find them all, buch check out page 45 of issue 48

Link: Bug Hunters in C&VG

Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 02 April, 2007, 12:48:52 AM
Since the Meg is reprinting all kinds of stuff they should reprint some of these old Jerry Paris stuff, lest it become mere legend. It seems to me Jerry was the greatest 2000AD artist never to work for 2000AD, it's about time he had his due. Shall we send an open letter?

ADE
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 02 April, 2007, 02:18:57 AM
Computer + Video Games Magazine. ( Another UK magazine.)

Thats another magazine I used to buy often when the Comodore 64 computer was in vogue. ( Still is actualley.)

There was a robot character resembling Mongrol ( ABC Warriors.) often referred to in this magazine.

Does anybody recall seeing this robot lampooning 'Conan the Barbarian' featured on a three part poster in three consecutive issues of this publication. On the poster itself this robot is dressed in barbarian attire and the words.........

 "Hither came (Submit name of Robot here.), sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Alantis under his sandalled feet."
-- (Based on the works of Robert E. Howard,

................. written in the background

I managed to get the top two thirds of this poster as I didn't actualley buy every issue of this magzine back in it's hey day.

If I find them I may scan them and put them up on this website to show all.

Does anyboy recall the issue where they were reveiwing the official FPS game based on the
'Aliens' movie and they were also showing you how to make model replica of one of the alien xenomorph's heads out of modeling putty and latex. I'll probably scan it if I find it and put it up here also.

Does anybody recall any of the magazine issues where the Slaine Martech game was being advertised and reviewed. They were also advertisng some competition where I think you could win one of the Slaine graphic novels of that present time. ( I think.) Actualley this was where I had first read about Slaine before even seeing a issue of 2000AD. I do remember buying a issue of the computer gaming magazine with a picture of Slaine on the front. I will scan it, and if I find it and put up a picture here.

I also recall seeing this computer magazine ( or similar publication.) in a shop many many years ago before I wasn't even twenty years old. After picking this mone off the shelve a flipping through it. I found a Glen Fabry drawn colour poster centrefold of Slaine standing next to the giant severed head of a titan or some other similer monster with Ukko sitting on top of it's head. I didn't buy it and was wondering if anybody remembers it. As it's picture I have never seen in any of the comics. Actualley I have mentioned this before on this forum last year and someone said that they would put it up here. Still waiting on that.

( looking for the other thread in the arkives section.)
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 02 April, 2007, 02:04:36 PM
I had the C&VG with Fabry cover and interior artwork, I think it was about the same time I got into 2000AD. Perhaps Glenn might dig it out and put it on his web site if you email him.

ADE
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 04 April, 2007, 04:16:04 AM
Okay. That's cool.

Perhaps it if I ask nicely it can be reprinted in a future issue of 2000AD. If I may be so bold as too ask. the editor as well as the artist.

Unfortunitely, I can't seem to locate any of the computer magazines I promiced. Though I may keep looking. The robot poster I mentioned isn't in the spot where I thought it had been.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 06 April, 2007, 03:52:52 PM
My E-mail thingy doesn't recognise the e-mail address provided on his website.

I'm not really game or richer enough to ring him either.

Link: Does Glen Fabry have another E-mail

Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Leigh S on 06 April, 2007, 04:39:49 PM
I have that mag - if i get the chance over the weekend, i'll scan the relevant pages.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Will I. Cooling on 06 April, 2007, 05:36:38 PM

Was never the same after it went to back to £2.99 after a brief flirtation with £1.50
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 07 April, 2007, 12:48:46 AM
Cool if you do.

I hope Glen Fabry doesn't mind.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Shotgun_alibi on 03 July, 2007, 03:49:10 PM
THANK YOU!!!

You guys have no idea how long I have been searching for any information on Bug Hunters and Lieutenant Laww.  I loved reading this strip when I was a kid and since the late 80's I have heard nothing about it.

I have been asking people for years if they remember it and keep getting strange looks and sympathetic smiles in return.

I was beginning to think I had invented it myself.

What I do remember was one of the last stories printed where Laww, Big Red, and his friends attempt to stop an alien invasion.  The alien is so big that it actually swallows Laww's nemesis "X", an evil blue robot.

Law defeats it and signs off with the immortal line "I think I need an overhaul!"

I am so glad you all remember it as fondly as I do, and I would certainly back any movement made to bring Jerry Paris' work back for a new printing.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 03 July, 2007, 05:08:28 PM
"I would certainly back any movement made to bring Jerry Paris' work back for a new printing."

The Megazine. You all know what to do.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: yadster2 on 03 July, 2007, 05:11:12 PM
ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/magazines/C+VG/TheBugHunters
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: pauljholden on 03 July, 2007, 05:28:19 PM
Thankew! Now if someone would actually print this I could buy it an appease my temporary guilt.

- pj
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: IndigoPrime on 03 July, 2007, 08:31:19 PM
"It seems to me Jerry was the greatest 2000AD artist never to work for 2000AD, it's about time he had his due"

Another artist in this space is Oliver Frey, who did Crash and Zzap!64's covers, along with Terminal Man. As far as I'm aware, he did just one piece for 2000 AD - a Rogue Trooper pin-up around the time of Button Man's debut, and which I duly severely edited for the Zzap!64 107 cover (see http://tinyurl.com/2ecefh for the cover). When the Meg was going through its second reprint phase (whereupon it republished Hellboy and Lazarus Churchyard), I tried getting Rebellion and Thalamus Books to hook up and reprint Terminal Man in brand-spanking-new funk-o-vision, but it never happened, sadly.

Link: The Terminal Man - scanned version

Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 03 July, 2007, 09:36:27 PM
Spectacular stuff.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Wils on 03 July, 2007, 10:43:44 PM
Be warned if you're on the hunt for Oli Frey artwork online. Some of his stuff could make you want to bleach your eyes and have your memory wiped after viewing it. :s
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: IndigoPrime on 04 July, 2007, 12:49:41 AM
His book, The Fantasy Art of Oliver Frey, is really good, if you like his stuff. It collects the vast majority of his (still surviving/accessible) Newsfield (Zzap!, Crash, Amtix, etc.) covers, but removes the cover lines and other crap. Well worth 11 quid. See the link below for the Amazon page and http://www.thalamus-books.com/books-kean-oliver-frey.html for the Thalamus Books page, with more internal pages.

Link: Fantasy Art of Oliver Frey

Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 29 August, 2013, 11:57:28 AM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 02 April, 2007, 02:18:57 AM
I also recall seeing this computer magazine ( or similar publication.) in a shop many many years ago before I wasn't even twenty years old. After picking this mone off the shelve a flipping through it. I found a Glen Fabry drawn colour poster centrefold of Slaine standing next to the giant severed head of a titan or some other similer monster with Ukko sitting on top of it's head. I didn't buy it and was wondering if anybody remembers it. As it's picture I have never seen in any of the comics. Actualley I have mentioned this before on this forum last year and someone said that they would put it up here. Still waiting on that.

Sorry to Necro-Post, but it's only truly relevant on this thread....

I finally found a picture of this exact Slaine poster while looking at all the Glenn Fabry - Slaine images on Google

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/a0e631ea228590fcbb4e0f41a65fd180/tumblr_mpktx33q3p1qf427ko1_500.jpg)

It's supposed to originate from Glenn Fabry's - Tumblr, but I haven't registered with that site. So, I couldn't find it there, yet!   I might try to contact and ask him which computer games magazine it was originally featured inand what issue it was. So I can look for it  here! (http://ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/magazines/)

I'm so happy as my collection of Slaine images gets bigger and more interesting with this much sought after addition.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: Leigh S on 29 August, 2013, 12:04:26 PM
wow! good find TS
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Post by: Dandontdare on 29 August, 2013, 12:12:58 PM
never seen that one before, fabulous (Fabrylous?) image!
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ming on 29 August, 2013, 06:47:57 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 29 August, 2013, 11:57:28 AMI finally found a picture of this exact Slaine poster while looking at all the Glenn Fabry - Slaine images on Google

The original art for that (presumably the origin of the image you found) popped up a while back - the owner doesn't know if / where it was published either...

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1030460&GSub=142794
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 30 August, 2013, 03:33:45 AM
Ming... are you saying the owner??? Glenn Fabry? doesn't know where this was first used?

Bec,ause I sent Glenn Fabry a message on one of his Face-Book pages. (He has two by the looks!) Asking him about this rare art piece, and which computer gaming magazine/issue it possibly featured in? While I was at it... I asked him if he did indeed base Slaine's on his own? I seriously doubt it though.... I was also very apologetic about that one and sorry to bother him as he must be a very busy fellow.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ming on 30 August, 2013, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 30 August, 2013, 03:33:45 AM
Ming... are you saying the owner??? Glenn Fabry? doesn't know where this was first used?

Bec,ause I sent Glenn Fabry a message on one of his Face-Book pages. (He has two by the looks!) Asking him about this rare art piece, and which computer gaming magazine/issue it possibly featured in? While I was at it... I asked him if he did indeed base Slaine's on his own? I seriously doubt it though.... I was also very apologetic about that one and sorry to bother him as he must be a very busy fellow.

No, I'm saying the owner (not the artist) doesn't know where this was used (assuming it was).  If I can dig up any info I'll let you know...
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: TordelBack on 30 August, 2013, 09:14:33 AM
Nice image, TS.  Like the flared shoulderpad with red piping, bound to be a big look for Spring '14, although accessorising with a giant head and dwarf may not make it to the high street.
Title: Re: C&VG
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 30 August, 2013, 10:09:50 AM
Since I first seen this image about 26 year earlier and in the more recent years where I've become more familier with Slaine I have often wondered what that giant head is from. Too big and ugly to be a Titan. I don't think Titan's have lower fangs that big either.

Is there a race of beastial giants I roaming the lands of Tir-Nan-Nog that I don't know about?