http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/first-justice-league-film-plot-details-logo-revealed
A bit of info about the next DC Snyder flick.
I have to say, I'm pretty underwhelmed by the logo. They seem to over-design all the costumes but go completely minimalist on the logo.
Hopefully, as the article suggests, this one will be a little more lightweight and fun. I have to say, I have my doubts considering the main villains and the inevitable Superman resurrection (which I have visions of being handled with all the restraint of a 'Dr Who finale' to the power of 10).
Quote from: JamesC on 21 June, 2016, 04:55:11 PM
I have to say, I'm pretty underwhelmed by the logo.
"Though distinct from past iterations, the star between the 'I' and the 'C' serves as a callback to the classic Justice League comic book logo, which featured multiple stars: a baffling design element, seemingly placed at random, off-centre, and exists solely to stop the designer's boss from saying 'Well, it's not really a design, is it? It's just a font...'"Fixed that for them.
Cheers!
Jim
There's been loads of Justice League fonts/logos now and it must be hard to come up with something that hasn't been done already. Doing something that's clearly shit might the only way to guarantee you don't replicate someone else's work.
Looks meh.
http://youtu.be/fIHH5-HVS9o (http://youtu.be/fIHH5-HVS9o)
I didn't mind it, but that last line makes Aquaman seem a bit rubbish, like their intentionally playing on gags from elsewhere.
You mean Aquaman King of Atlantis Aftershave commercial. The first 30 odd seconds were hilarious. The second chunk got better. You get the feeling that DC has realised they need to unclench they're movie buttocks a little - they just forgot to tell the cinematography person.
For all the awkwardly transplanted humor and forced banter in that teaser, the only bit that made me laugh was when he said 'he brings fish'... and I don't think that was supposed to be funny.
I hope that's cod-liver oil, Aquabro.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoEy0MlVUAAQ9uL.jpg)
I think John waiting for me to post new trailer on here;
https://youtu.be/3cxixDgHUYw (https://youtu.be/3cxixDgHUYw)
I am sure very few of you exciting for it? Gotta to said I think Jason Momoa as Aquaman is best thing in the trailer.
New trailer looks a lot better. Agree about Aquaman. Will superman be resurrected in this film? or do we have to wait for more sequels? I couldn't stand the depiction of Lex Luther in batman v superman. After Hackman and Spacey and his portrayal in Lois and Clark and SmallVille, I thought Eisenberg was poor to say the least.
Yeah, I liked Batman Vs Superman, but Lex's portrayal seemed much closer to The Riddler or The Joker. Not as insanity as those characters, certainly, I just mean that super cheerful chirpy demeanor. I know Lex Luthor isn't miserable all the time in the comics, but he seems much more serious than the version shown in BvsS.
I liked the Trailer.
Disgraceful lack of blond hair in this.
2 points deducted for lack of blond hair.
32 added for casting Mamoa because it at least gives me something to drool over whilst watching this pathetic excuse for a JL movie.
I don't read many DC comics and know next to nothing about Aquaman, so I don't care that his hair is black and I think he looks pretty cool. I just hope the whole thing is much better than Man of Steel and Batman v Superman.
(I will be drooling too, of course, but in my case Gal Gadot will be the slaver-trigger.)
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 30 March, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
casting Mamoa because it at least gives me something to drool over
The onan in Conan, available in glorious 3D (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Conan-the-Barbarian-3D-Blu-ray/32431/).
DC can make good TV shows but can't seem to translate that to the films.
That trailer was a complete mess. Like structurally it felt like it was four different coherent trailers that had been smooshed together.
In comparison (NOT THAT I'M DOING THE MARVEL VS DC DANCE) the Spider-Man trailer, though spoilery, actually made it seem like a film that would have a story rather than just several fan-pleasing moments in what's likely to be four solid hours of wank.
When Bruce said "I'm rich." that sort of ruined the trailer, it could be better if he said "I'm Batman"
Sounds like Joss Whedon is going to be directing a Batgirl film.
Quote from: Steve Green on 30 March, 2017, 10:03:21 PM
Sounds like Joss Whedon is going to be directing a Batgirl film.
That would be great, he did well female heroes...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0a/40/b1/0a40b1fa05efb3345d701aeca2d06a5d.jpg)
Quote from: Goaty on 30 March, 2017, 10:02:17 PM
When Bruce said "I'm rich." that sort of ruined the trailer, it could be better if he said "I'm Batman"
Totally agree. It's a joke
about Batman, something Lego Batman can get away with, not Batman himself. Well, maybe the Goddamned Batman.
And yeah, Whedon might be a rather obvious and predictable choice for Batgirl, but by heck that man can make movies.
So I create this version?
https://youtu.be/c-xDcivZBYM (https://youtu.be/c-xDcivZBYM)
When my 16 year old daughter saw the news of Whedon directing Batgirl her only comment was...
ahem...
NOOOOOOOOO!
She's not a fan of his and doesn't want to see him turn Batgirl into Buffy/River/Scarlet Witch...
Well,I can understand that.
Although they're all very different characters.
But fair enough. I like Whedon's stuff, but i can see how it could grate with some people.
"We can either make a movie about violent grimdark battle-armored vigilante Batgirl who is basically just Batman with tits and whose comic got cancelled because even comics nerds got tired of the same thing day in day out, or we can make a film about the version of Batgirl that was critically and commercially popular."
/tosses coin
/coin lands in unflushed toilet
Zack Snyder is stepping away from post-production of "Justice League" film after his daughter's suicide, Joss Whedon has come onboard to finish the film with re-shoot scenes.
All thoughts for Zack and his family, so sad.
http://www.darkhorizons.com/snyder-exits-justice-league-after-tragedy/ (http://www.darkhorizons.com/snyder-exits-justice-league-after-tragedy/)
Latest SDCC trailer does it no favours. I'm going to go see it (let's not kid myself) but it looks like it will be tiring to watch.
Who is the baddie meant to be?
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 23 July, 2017, 09:11:48 AM
Who is the baddie meant to be?
Going by the helmet, I'm guessing it's Orion, Darkseid's son, although that doesn't really fit with the comics. Kalibak is a possibility, but that would be a radical redesign.
I was wondering if it could be Big Barda, who also has a winged helmet - I tried looking frame by frame for boobage, but couldn't spot any. There's a very brief and fuzzy glimpse of the face when Wonder Woman is fighting it, and it's possible its female.
Regards,
Robin
[spoiler]Steppenwolf - no me neither[/spoiler]
Quote from: Steve Green on 23 July, 2017, 10:06:10 AM
[spoiler]Steppenwolf - no me neither[/spoiler]
Ah, now I'd seen that name mentioned on youtube, but had assumed it was something to do with the soundtrack. Silly of me not to do my research.
Regards,
Robin
Well its all just forshadowing Darkseid.
Still looks a little silly.
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 23 July, 2017, 11:26:38 AM
Well its all just forshadowing Darkseid.
Still looks a little silly.
No, it doesn't look silly enough!
Quote from: Mister Pops on 23 July, 2017, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 23 July, 2017, 11:26:38 AM
Well its all just forshadowing Darkseid.
Still looks a little silly.
No, it doesn't look silly enough!
Ha! Touche
Anyone else think special effects look rather ropey?
Caught between a viewing of Spiderman Homecoming and the Ragnarok trailer, this ain't singing to me yet. Although if they keep the Wonder Woman quotient high I could be persuaded.
I have faith in Whedon to extract something watchable from whatever mess of Randian grimdark Snyder bequeathed him.
I dunno, man - he came in so very late, could be really work his ensemble magic with someone else's clockwork? Still, by all accounts he saved Speed.
Quote from: TordelBack on 23 July, 2017, 09:45:07 PM
I dunno, man - he came in so very late, could be really work his ensemble magic with someone else's clockwork? Still, by all accounts he saved Speed.
Now news report that the film is reshoots in cost of £25 millions, possibly polish up the film.
I'm definitely up for this but I don't think it's going to be any good. They have probably put all the best bits (I liked the "I'm rich" joke) in the trailer.
Bit weird seeing that dude as The Flash, I'm so used to Grant Gustin ...
How does the movie Flash compare to tv Flash and comic book Flash from what we've seen so far Flash fans?
The design of the Flash is a prime example of the clutter and over-egging of the pudding that ruins these.
The fact that it looks like armour is daft enough but the fact that it has to spark and emit lightning before he goes fast is all kinds of stupid. "Look he's sparking, that means he's about to go do something fast!".
It's okay
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EDazu3lVyb0/WNaTPK_KqJI/AAAAAAAAdbs/KdvilJKOHiwDvwfF9NB4v7JcigSQ23E4wCLcB/s400/giphy-9.gif)
^I hope the action scenes don't all look like this. I can barely make out what's happening.
New trailer, and it does looks colourful
https://youtu.be/r9-DM9uBtVI (https://youtu.be/r9-DM9uBtVI)
The trailer is action packed but I hope that CGI will not replace good story telling.
Based on previous DC efforts, including Wonder Woman, it will.
Considering what he usually looks like, making the Flash look like a **** in this took some doing, but if nothing else I appreciate they made the effort.
Minor point but might want to avoid 'see you next tuesday'. :-X
I don't know how it'll play but from a cursory look that is an ugly looking film.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 October, 2017, 10:20:15 PM
I don't know how it'll play but from a cursory look that is an ugly looking film.
Totally agree. I honestly cannot stand the look of all the DC movies thus far. They all look incredibly over-processed and fake to me, and like someone has been messing about with colour grading sliders and pushing them all to random extremes. It's even put me off seeing Wonder Women, which people tend to say is quite good, because I find the aesthetic so utterly unappealing. I can't believe that most other people can't see what I see, or think it's a good look.
People tend to criticise the Marvel movies for their rather flat visual style, but at least the scenes in them set on Earth look like they are taking place within some version of our reality, not some nightmarish cgi greenscreen hellscape 100% of the time.
Yeah purely on a visual level this looks horrible, even in the small dose of a trailer my eyes got annoyed with it. An overwhelming CG overload and ugly as all hell.
Mmmm, have to agree. They even manage to make Thermyscira look like projectile vomit - previously a particularly well-realised fantasy environment.
That said, the attempts at humour, however forced, do hint at a possibly entertaining film, and the world-without-a-superman idea may give it some sort of coherent theme/goal.
Oh who am I kidding. That they can't get their odd Flash/Bats/Diana dynamic to even approach the believability of similar scenes in Captain America: Civil War, never mind The Incredibles, probably tells you all you need to know.
Ouch. Empire give it 2 stars on review.
Guardian also gave it a 2, and had barely any nice things to say beyond some nods towards a couple of performances (not Affleck's, which was slammed).
Now Total Film give it 2 stars too.
Strange as a Rotten Tomato delay the reviews - is that bad omen?
I'm not defending the JL movie, but a lot of these reviews were probably already written before the reviewer had seen the film.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 15 November, 2017, 12:05:32 PM
I'm not defending the JL movie, but a lot of these reviews were probably already written before the reviewer had seen the film.
Why you do think that?
The DCCU is a car crash but I've managed to find something to enjoy in all of their films.
Wonder Woman is by far the best and Man of Steel is the worst. I'm expecting this to fall somewhere in the middle.
I agree Wonder Woman is the best but would defend Man of Steel as at least being coherent if an extreme story to start with (Superman forced to kill and cause collateral damage to thousands). Suicide squad is a messy pop video aesthetic tv pilot with big names and a horrible trashy joker. But to my Bat vs Supes is the real failure. Just awful misreading of Dark Knight Returns.
Quote from: matty_ae on 15 November, 2017, 04:36:07 PM
But to my Bat vs Supes is the real failure. Just awful misreading of Dark Knight Returns.
Add it to Snyder's tone-deaf misreading of Watchmen. Perhaps that's Warner's grand plan — every couple of years, Snyder fucks up another stone cold classic. Next up! Moore's Swamp Thing! Morrison's Doom Patrol!
Early review round-up: OUCH. (http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/15/justice-league-reviews/)
QuoteIt [...] feels like so much attention was paid to the smaller, fizzier character moments that the bigger picture of the film's overarching plot was a second or third priority...
Translation: "Whedon fixed the bits he could."
Saw it in news yesterday that film producer said Joss Whedon only did 15-20% of the film.
(Maybe that producer should shut up)
I can't believe I'm typing this, but apparently the much-publicised cg-aided removal of Henry Cavill's mustache genuinely hurts the film, as he has a pronounced weird uncanny valley face for the affected scenes.
Bizarre.
QuoteStrange as a Rotten Tomato delay the reviews - is that bad omen?
As I understand it, Rotten Tomatoes has been banned from posting reviews until a week after release.
I'm sure it's merely a coincidence that Warner owns RT...
Quote from: matty_ae on 15 November, 2017, 04:36:07 PMI agree Wonder Woman is the best
Doesn't really want me want to seek out the others, then. Mrs G and I were both rather disappointed with WW. (I mean, it was
fine, but I think our expectations were quite high.)
Quote from: radiator on 15 November, 2017, 07:22:56 PM
QuoteStrange as a Rotten Tomato delay the reviews - is that bad omen?
As I understand it, Rotten Tomatoes has been banned from posting reviews until a week after release.
I'm sure it's merely a coincidence that Warner owns RT...
WB own a minority stake in the merged entities of Flixter/RottenTomatoes/Fandango but it's Comcast/Fandango own Rotten Tomatoes.
RT reviews are up tomorrow but the percentage score has all ready leaked.
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/11/14/16648850/justice-league-rotten-tomatoes-score
(http://media.comicbook.com/2017/11/justice-league-rotten-tomatoes-score-leak-1058797.jpg)
Quote from: radiator on 15 November, 2017, 07:21:23 PM
I can't believe I'm typing this, but apparently the much-publicised cg-aided removal of Henry Cavill's mustache genuinely hurts the film, as he has a pronounced weird uncanny valley face for the affected scenes.
Bizarre.
Yeah but why report that? thought some films would be secret etc?
Pleasantly surprised - I really enjoyed that.
My girlfriend found much humour in the fact that Superman had been buried with a picture of Kevin Costner. It did seem quite funny out of context.
What a turkey!
Flat, uninspired direction, equally flat performances, ropey effects and a excruciatingly formulaic and cliche ridden plot.
I'm really at a loss to find any positives-maybe some of the Amazonian home world stuff.
Worse still, it was unrelenting tedious-an utterly depressing and hollow experience.
Quote from: JamesC on 17 November, 2017, 07:29:17 PM
Pleasantly surprised - I really enjoyed that.
Likewise. Perhaps having my expectations pre-lowered helped, but I really
did enjoy it.
I have to concur with previous criticism of the DC/Warner movies, in as much as they desperately need to fire their production and costume designers and find an aesthetic that isn't so
unrelentingly ugly, but otherwise, it was fine.
I'm not even going to play the
"Well, clearly Joss Whedon did all the bits I liked" game, because i thought it all hung together pretty well. Having skipped BvS, this was my first encounter with Affleck's Wayne/Batman, and he's fine. Cyborg's a bit dull, but the other characters all work well, and I'd certainly plonk down cash for Momoa's solo Aquaman movie.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 18 November, 2017, 05:28:06 PMHaving skipped BvS, this was my first encounter with Affleck's Wayne/Batman, and he's fine.
I had the good fortune not to see BvS at the cinema, but instead eventually watched the extended version on disc. Like the few others I've spoken too in the same position, I quite enjoyed it - possibly the benefit of extremely low expectations (I was a bit disappointed by WW for the opposite reason). However, one thing that came out of it for me is that Ben Affleck is my favourite Batman
and my favourite Bruce Wayne by far. An absolute thug of a man.
(I still like Michael Keaton, although the awe I felt as a 19 year old watching Batman has long since evaporated.)
Regards,
Robin
Saw Justice League the other night and have to say i really enjoyed it. Far from a perfect film but was fun with a healthy dose of humour to this one that was missing from batman v superman. I think im going to watch it again.
I thought Justice League was pretty good. It had to introduce 3 new characters, bring superman back to life and reconcile the 4 previous movies. It's no classic but it manages to make all 6 characters likeable and even inject positivity into the DC world. My kids loved the Flash & I'm looking forward to whatever comes next. Batman v Supes was a terrible doom laden mess which this pretty much manages to get rid of the taste of. Not sure why it's getting all the hate.
I loved Justice League. It was well thought out but with a definite hint of fun whilst treating the subject material with respect. It never veered over into full comedy like Thor Ragnorok did, and I enjoyed both films, but I would give Justice League the upper hand, slightly.
I agree that Ben Affleck is my favourite Batman. There are times when you think he will be beaten. Not too happy with his use of fire arms but I'm an old f*ck having grown up with the caped crusader since the late 70's.
It was fun, but it took itself seriously, and as a comic fan, I loved that.
Some serious emotional scenes as well as some comic ones.
In my humble opinion, ignore the 'popular press' and just go, release yourself, try not to think to hard, and look at Gal Godot's bum...A lot.
Just got home from watching it. Some of the CGI wasn't the best, and the pacing could'v used a couple of extra minutes, but I really enjoyed it. I thought it managed to balance all the characters really well. Felt like character moments over story. Really enjoyed things like [spoiler]superman carrying a whole apartment house, or the alien tentacle goo turning into a bunch of alien flowers[/spoiler]. Felt like watching a super hero comic book come to life, and made me look forward to Shazam :)
We don't do that any more. We listen and ask them how their day was because we respect women and stuff now.
I hear on twitter about how awful CGI on Superman's mustache?
Quote from: Goaty on 20 November, 2017, 03:03:21 PM
I hear on twitter about how awful CGI on Superman's mustache?
It's one of those things: if you know, and you're looking for it, it
is a bit uncanny valley. However, it's not as bad as the still screen caps you might have seen make it look, and my wife, who didn't know about it, didn't notice at all.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 20 November, 2017, 03:00:09 PMWe listen and ask them how their day was because we respect women and stuff now.
I can do all this
and appreciate their bums. Multitasking respect and objectification FTW.
Although it needs to be said that there are plenty of people with bottoms as pleasing as Gadot's, but precious few with her screen presence and palpable charm.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 20 November, 2017, 03:00:09 PM
We don't do that any more. We listen and ask them how their day was because we respect women and stuff now.
I checked with her. She said it was ok. And her day was 'peachy' apparently.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 20 November, 2017, 03:00:09 PM
We don't do that any more. We listen and ask them how their day was because we respect women and stuff now.
I figure if it's OK for me to have to sit through a detailed comparison of the relative merits of Hemsworth/Momoa/Cavill's exposed musculatures, I'm probably allowed to appreciate a nice pair of glutes, in an entirely non-reductive and respectful way. Obviously.
I thoroughly enjoyed that- maybe more because I had managed to lower my expectations. It wasn't as good as Wonder woman, but it was streets ahead of Suicide Squad.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 20 November, 2017, 03:00:09 PM
We don't do that any more. We listen and ask them how their day was because we respect women and stuff now.
Of course you are right, and it's a fair bet that all the gratuitous ass shots were put into the film accidentally. I shall do my best not to look, and I'd love to have the opportunity to listen to her and ask her how her day was!
That was okay; not crap and not brilliant but good enough.
Well, I'd hardly go that far...
Quote from: Goaty on 20 November, 2017, 03:03:21 PM
I hear on twitter about how awful CGI on Superman's mustache?
I was too distracted by all the other poor CGI and glaring plot holes to notice!!! :lol:
I do like this version of Batman, though. Tough and old and bruised and battered. He's the one character who's brave rather than fearless. The others are all much stronger and more durable than he is and so have less to fear. Batman's just a bloke with expensive gear and a strong will. I think Affleck nails it and, as someone said earlier, is the best Wayne/Batman to date.
Thought it was awful. Not as bad as BvS in terms of how messy it was, but overall a worse film. The bad guy has to be the least interesting of a film in the past two decades or more. Looks like he fell out of a CGI concept sidereel that was left on the cutting room floor of Lord of the Rings editing from 18 years ago. It was like he was a CGI cosplayer of Tim Curry's Darkness from Legend.
Yep, Affleck is definitely up there as one of the best Batmen. I have to say I really like the DCEU version of Gotham too. Its very theatrical looking - it reminds me a bit of Paris from the Moulin Rouge film.
Quote from: Rusty on 21 November, 2017, 01:38:45 AM
Thought it was awful. Not as bad as BvS in terms of how messy it was, but overall a worse film. The bad guy has to be the least interesting of a film in the past two decades or more. Looks like he fell out of a CGI concept sidereel that was left on the cutting room floor of Lord of the Rings editing from 18 years ago. It was like he was a CGI cosplayer of Tim Curry's Darkness from Legend.
I agree that Steppenwolf is a poor baddie but no worse, and no better, imo, than Hela or most of the other baddies from the comic book films.
Let's be honest, in the main, they are there simply as a plot device and nothing more. It's not like most of them are much better in the original comics.
Doctor Doom are the only comic villains that I find interesting. Maybe Victor Freeze after Paul Dini and Bruce Timm revamped him. Have I mentioned that Timm and Dini should have been running this shitshow from the start?
The MCU has managed a few decent villains, with Loki in his first two outings, Ego in GotG2 and the Vulture in Spiderman: Homecoming. The films where villains are more faceless or prosaic (Winter Soldier, Iron Man 2, Civil War) show that it isn't always necessary to have a hissing baddie centrestage.
I would love to see Red Skull again.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 November, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
I would love to see Red Skull again.
Yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
Incidentally, I meant Iron Man 3 not 2, as regards faceless baddies.
I'd love to see Anarky used on film. A genuinely sympathetic villain that would fit right in with real world politics at the moment.
Don't suppose it will ever happen though. We'll probably get umpteen more versions of shitty Poison Ivy instead.
Quote from: TordelBack on 21 November, 2017, 11:08:24 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 November, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
I would love to see Red Skull again.
Yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
Incidentally, I meant Iron Man 3 not 2, as regards faceless baddies.
Eh? Guy Pearce might disagree.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 21 November, 2017, 12:34:23 PM
Eh? Guy Pearce might disagree.
Was citing IM3 as an example of a superhero movie where a villain doesn't have to be centrestage in proceedings: a key theme in the film is that the baddie is rather banal and unobtrusive. Killian isn't the frontrunner bad-guy for much of the movie (one of my favourite movie twists involved there, and one that I absolutely did not see coming), just sinister-nerd-turned-sleazebag, and only really hulks-out briefly at the end: a good character in a great movie, but not a scenery-chomping supervillain, like Red Skull or Hela.
The female henchman killed off unceremoniously by Killian was originally supposed to be IM3's main villain, as a continuation of the rug-pulling gag started with the Mandarin. Anyway, he'd have to choose a character no-one would guess might be the villain for that reveal to work, so I wonder what made Shane Black assume that a woman would never be assumed by Marvel audiences to be important? Marvel made him change it because they didn't want to have to make female action figures, so I guess we'll never know.
Ah, I sort of see your point.
Well I saw this yesterday and it was way better than I expected. I reckon it even topped Wonder Women as the best of this current DC franchise. Steppenwolf was a bit of a forgettable villain (I mean, if you're using Mother Boxes, Boom Tubes and Parademons, why not go straight for Darkseid? I guess they're saving him up for the next one).
Casting was spot on for all the team with (as many have pointed out) Gadot stealing the show - I bet her party trick is seeing how many beer mats she can hold in that amazing brow-furrow. It all wrapped up a little too easily once you-know-who shows up, but all the fight scenes were very well done and there was just the right amount of humour amongst the grimness.
I stayed for the post credit bit where [spoiler]Superman and Flash have a race[/spoiler] - was there another one after the rest of the credits?
Quote from: Dandontdare on 24 November, 2017, 09:13:24 AM
was there another one after the rest of the credits?
Yes. [spoiler]Begins with Luthor in prison, refusing to leave his cell. The guard goes in and discovers that it's not Luthor but some other bald guy. Cut to a yacht floating offshore, where the real Luthor meets with
Deadpool Deathstroke and proposes they "form a league of their own"...[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 24 November, 2017, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 24 November, 2017, 09:13:24 AM
was there another one after the rest of the credits?
Yes. [spoiler]Begins with Luthor in prison, refusing to leave his cell. The guard goes in and discovers that it's not Luthor but some other bald guy. Cut to a yacht floating offshore, where the real Luthor meets with Deadpool Deathstroke and proposes they "form a league of their own"...[/spoiler]
[spoiler]KGBeast is already employed by Luther by the time of BvS so yeah, this was kind of a none teaser as far as post credit sequences go.[/spoiler]
Thought it was all a bit pap TBH.
I think there's some real structural problems with the story-telling in Justice League.
Introducing Steppenwolf by having Diana tell the story which then cuts to a Lord of the Rings pastiche was so clumsy. In contrast when Hela arrives in Ragnarok, the point is that our hero has never heard of her and under-estimates her power as her existence has been literally plastered over.
Diana's story-telling seems to take so long by the end of the flashback they have left the BatCave and are now in the countryside. Just really awkward.
And the single family in Chernobyl were so clumsy.
The whole 'Superman isn't here' so racism has increased just didn't feel earned by the previous movies. i though the whole thing was just wretched and the biggest missed opportunity in Superhero history. I would have actually preferred just to see a longer Zac Snyder cut so at least his whole trilogy felt completed. What we got was like a weird simplified edit like a plane version of a horror movie with so much cut what was left felt just disjointed action scenes.
I did like the Flash eyeballing Superman. Just before Clark head butted Wonder Woman - I mean why use a headbutt - just nasty.
Superman's super "malky" on Wonderwoman was probably the best bit in the entire film. I laughed out loud at that. It was so unintentionally funny, it was brilliant. :lol:
Thoroughly enjoyed that. Nice tone, didn't outstay It's welcome. Neither did the fights. Some good gags. Blimey look at those abs. Forgettable villain. Plot mostly hung together. And nice character moments. Didn't notice the tache. And they let the heroes be heroic.
And Ok, her bum was nice. But not as nice as her strength and leadership and setting an example.
So it looks like the WB viral marketing campaign (I don't believe it was a genuine fan campaign for a second) has confirmed that this is coming in 2021.
Spending something like 30 million on reboots and effects sequences.
And will come in at 4 hrs or something that they might turn into a mini series.
I'll get round to watching it out of curiosity but can't say I'll pay for the pleasure. I actually didn't mind the one we got too much - though I acknowledge it is far from what anyone could objectively call good.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 23 May, 2020, 02:19:25 PMI'll get round to watching it out of curiosity but can't say I'll pay for the pleasure. I actually didn't mind the one we got too much - though I acknowledge it is far from what anyone could objectively call good.
I'm quite interested in seeing it. I was one of the people who never saw the theatrical version of BvS, but found that the extended cut was much more enjoyable and interesting than I expecting - possibly showing the benefits of expected the worst. Unfortunately, I didn't get much out of Justice League at all, so I'm very keen to see a significant revision of it.
Of course, I won't be truly happy until someone makes a proper Justice League movie, by which I mean Justice League International. I've chosen my favourite DC-era and I'm sticking to it.
Regards,
Robin
Cool that theyll let him finish it. Ill watch it for the spectacle.
Wouldnt mind a DC new frontier inspired JL film :)
I just rewatched this. First time around I quite liked it. Wonder Woman was good in it (I hated her film) and the fact that they got it all done in two hours was refreshing by DC standards.
This time around I was shocked at how shoddy the bad guy looked. Also, there just wasn't enough Superman for my liking.
I don't know anything about this newer version but if they could fix the bad guy and not make it too long, that'd be good. Not sure I'll bother watching it though.
I think it will be longer, if anything. I'm curious as I understand it's quite a bit different to the one we received (although I did like that).
I understand there will be more [spoiler]Darkseid[/spoiler] stuff, but I don't know if he will [spoiler] replace that other villain with the odd Germanic Wolfy name.[/spoiler]
Apparently there will be some explanation concerning that odd [spoiler]Batman prophetic dream and Flash's cameo in BvsS which was glossed over in the theatrical version.[/spoiler]
Amazing to think that they can make a perfect film even better.
I've seen a lot of clearly over-educated Youtubers examine the ethos of Snyder's take on Superman and why the director's objectivist philosophy creates dissonance between the creator and their work, but I like this recent one by Maggie Mae Fish (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOd6ZYZE5uA), which examines why Superman does a Superman at all.
Yeah, I saw that one. Made me smile and made sense of why Snyder's "alien" superman is different from my Superman whose chief power is his humanity.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 23 June, 2020, 01:03:16 PM
Amazing to think that they can make a perfect film even better.
I've seen a lot of clearly over-educated Youtubers examine the ethos of Snyder's take on Superman and why the director's objectivist philosophy creates dissonance between the creator and their work,
I made a prediction a while back that the attentive fandom would eventually close the circle and sublimate
das überdirector to the typical Randian protagonist: persecuted iconoclast, his creations under-appreciated and subverted by the establishment. Recently the YouTube Academy of Higher Learning confirmed that prediction.
FWIW - Read somewhere (lost link) that this rebooting is really just a cynical grab to more easily plan out a slate of films around Darkseid and Apokolips, as they want a film spanning big bad.
It is therefore easier to spend $30M on something the "fans want", creating goodwill, than to face backlash for shoehorning it into the established continuity.
I'm guessing, with the recent casting announcement for the Flashpoint film, that DC/Warners are going to try and say that the two versions of the justice league movie are set on different earths, along with the old Batman films and everything.
The Ezra Miller cameo in the last series of Grant Gustin's Flash may be to do with this.
Only guessing, but it makes sense.