I got the first three 2000AD volumes bound thanks to a recommendation by Chiefy2Shoes.
He'd already used http://www.hollingworthmoss.co.uk and they have been really good.
I've had them done as half-years so progs
1-26
27-52
53-78
Hoping to get the first 520 done is I can afford more back issues.
Hollingsworth showed amazing attention to detail and have a really clear price list on that link.
(Don't know why pics are being shown on their side)
They look grand!
That's pretty fantastic. How sturdy would you say they are, and how much space do you lose in the guttering?
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Looks great.I must say,Im a bit envious. :)
Nice job they look great! I foresee trouble ahead though when the page size changes in the middle of a 6 month block.
To Richard - pretty sturdy they reinforced them and there's no gutter loss as each spine is stitched through. They did say how crap the paper is!
Ha ha! Thanks.
Wow, those look absolutely incredible, real beauties! The sheer size of those books is a thing to behold. I have always wanted to try binding some other comic collections I have - seeing these really wants me to do it now (when I have more money I suppose :)) Great choice of art for the covers too - great timing!
Man they are quite fantastic, really beautiful. I've seen some of Chiefs and they are good enough to say the least BUT those seem a step up.
Out of interest did you have to do all the page prep yourself. I seem to recall Chief told me he had to carefully cut the pages himself?
I didn't do any prep but did pay them for an hours worth. They've line the spine/fold of each page to strengthen them.
Oh man, they look great. A step up from mine like Colin said.
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I'm about to send off a batch of progs for 2003-2004 and 2011-2012.
Those are stunning! Really look like a professional bought in Waterstones release.
So is that logo stamp available for use (for free) at Hollingworth? ;)
About to send mine off soon.
Going for plain black buckram, red metallic lettering and, if possible, the logo.
Answering my own question it looks like a fiver for the logo. Is that right.
Also, did you add any of the summer specials to your binds.
I intend to add them at the end of each volume that ends in the summer (except, obviously, the winter specials) or are you going to do seperate binds for yours?
I think the size is roughly the same from memory, maybe a bit larger, but with the white borders and trimming I should not lose too much, if anything at all.
I also plan on doing a Starlord and Tornado bind with specials under the 2000 AD banner too.
Gawds but Matty's and Chiefy's bindings are both awe-inspiring. Hats off to both of you, you magnificent bastards.
Matt of the Spurs - belatedly, yes I used a die stamp created by someone else.
And to Chiefy2Shoes - I would love your collection. I'm just dipping my toe in and would love to have that full set. Thanks for the advice & recommendation.
- I didn't include the Specials as I always found them unevenly produced and I was really just wanting to copy the original IPC archives - at one point I wanted them to look identical - just red material with simple spine and dates - but vanity took over.
Watch out for the Starlord balls-up where the page size changes so dramatically they cant be bound with normal progs. Bah
Thanks Matty.
I was considering what to do with the page size change too and wonder if there is enough gap either side that the different sized ones could all be bound together.
Also, much later on, there is another page size change but I think that one runs for a lot longer.
This is how I was going to split them
26 progs a book, so 52 a year.
But that means the 'birthday issues' would be last in a book, when regularly they are celebrated with new stories. So from 156 I was going to drop an issue so I could start a new book with it.
So now the complication is that I think 110 - 127 would be best bound on their own as all a different size, meaning that the issue count either side would have to be larger to take up the slack.
Really impressed with this idea. Ive got loads of progs in my mums attic and the thought of having them bound into a single volume appeals to me. Id only go for the period i remember most fondly-around the late 80s so it doesnt seem like such a mammoth task! Very nice looking volumes..
Where are you including the Sci-Fi Specials?
I've never rated the Specials or the Annuals. Certainly early on they seems dogged by text stories and oddity fillers like Rick Random (?) so I'm only doing the progs.
Please share any new binds / insights and I'll share my new ones once done.
I aim for relaunch or landmark progs for the purposes of boxing - so 85, 178, 335 etc
If I had the money and shelf space I would probably go:
1 to 29 or 35 (all stories end in prog 35.... might be tempted to go there - whats the maximum number?)
30 (or 36) to 58 (last Dare cover and Dredd returns from Luna 1)
59-85 (up to Starlord starting)
86-109 (up to page size stuff intruding)
110 to 127 (page size and up to Tornado intruding)
128 - 155 (up to start of Judge Child)
156 -177 (up to relaunch issue)
Not sure how the size differences would look on the shelf though!
As I am thinking of binding some issues myself, can someone tell me what are all the changes in size that happened during all the years of 2000AD being published? Thanks!
Also, I too have the same concern with the Starlord issues and the height difference of the binded books. Anyone else has an idea, aesthetically speaking?
Quote from: Leigh S on 19 February, 2017, 12:34:42 PM
1 to 29 or 35 (all stories end in prog 35.... might be tempted to go there - whats the maximum number?)
Hollingworth and Moss recommend no thicker than 2 inches.
Oh man, these looks amazing!
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Here's the answer to 'should you get the Special bound in with the Star Lord comics?'
Looking at the Star Lords, the height is completely different way too much to trim. You can see it here.
Damn you IPC why did you do stupid things like this?
Can anyone show a comparison of a 1977 prog with either of the 1977 2000AD Specials, is it the same sort of difference?
Thanks to Martin/Maf who has been great supplying me progs and stuff like this.
I was inspired by the bindings section on the Marvelmasterworks forum to start binding my comics. I've been binding 2000AD and the Megazine since 2012, and have slowly backtracked my way as far back as 2004.
They cost me around 85 New Zealand dollars each (or 45 quid), hence the slow pace.
I've been binding a whole year for the Megazines and a half a year in each volume,(ie: Jan to June and July to Dec) for the 2000ADs, with the 100page progs starting the year (hence those volumes are wider than the 2nd half year volumes).
I got a custom made stamp for the 2000AD 'fan' logo, which unfortunately the binders couldn't use on the spine, although they were able to use the Dredd badge for the Megazine binds. The other major task for the binds was compiling the title pages.
Cool. Add a photo. Love to see the die stamp. Why could they use the 2000AD one out of interest?
Mat
Quote from: matty_ae on 23 April, 2017, 07:32:13 AM
Here's the answer to 'should you get the Special bound in with the Star Lord comics?'
Looking at the Star Lords, the height is completely different way too much to trim. You can see it here.
Damn you IPC why did you do stupid things like this?
Can anyone show a comparison of a 1977 prog with either of the 1977 2000AD Specials, is it the same sort of difference?
Thanks to Martin/Maf who has been great supplying me progs and stuff like this.
I've had my Star Lord special bound with the comics. The binder lined it at the top - looks fine.
The 70s specials fit in fine with the progs. The tricky decision came with the 1981-1986 specials. They were as tall as the Star Lords, against the much shorter Progs. After much umming and ahing I decided to bind each of those specials separately so they could at least sit in the right place on the shelf.
I would like to see that shelf...
I'd love to show the photos of my binds, matty_ae, but I can't figure out how to do it. All I get is this: (http://forums.2000adonline.com/C:%5CUsers%5Cjohn%20m%5CDocuments%5C2000ad)[img]
put your photo online on facebook, instagram, flikr or the like, go to the address of the actual image, copy the address in text form and paste the text between these
should look something like this
(http://http%20-%20paste%20your%20image%20link%20here)
use the preview option to see if it worked
Had six more volumes done taking me up to 1981.
Sorry to duplicate if you've seen this on FB
Things I've learned
1. You pay less if you take out the staples yourself
2. Postage is fixed so send as many as you can
3. If you ask for double end papers it stops the covers getting tacked onto the front page
4. Hollingsworth & Moss are technically perfect. I couldn't spot a flaw in 9 books
5. Progs 110 - 127 are so much shorter they do require their own volume
Any chance of a shot of an open volume, to see the end papers? Those all look very nice!
That is a thing of absolute beauty.
I envy you!
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Excuse the messy shelves. Here's what my 2000ad bound collection currently looks like, with another 24 volumes at the binders...
Top shelf of bindings - blue = Star Lord; green = Tornado; black = Scream (it can sit there until I get around to the new Eagle); light blue = Dice Man; yellow = Crisis; tall, thin red volumes - Sci Fi SPecials too tall to be bound in with the Progs;
Second shelf down - red volumes with black lettering = Megazine;
Third shelf down - Purple - Judge Dredd: Lawman of the Future.
Since I've had them bound, I've been reading them more than I used to - definitely worth the cost for that reason alone.
Now I need to pluck up the strength to stop buying the Rebellion trades & sell off my older GN collections. Keep telling myself there's no need to keep them now, but that cursed collector gene says otherwise...
Um......eh.......ah......Matty-e are those Viagra tablets in the bottom right hand corner. I only know what they look like because I have seen pictures of them on the internet!! lol
Not sure where you're looking, but If it's the thing above the Ninth Doctor's head then it's a bookmark!
In the Starlord picture ;)
I'd got a punchline sorted about not needing Viagra when I could just look at this photo but I'm really puzzled! There isn't a Starlord picture?
But there is, I am now doubting myself but he is comparing the size of weekly Starlord to the Starlord Special and the potential problem it may cause if you wanted that included in the binding to create a book.
Copied and pasted for your benefit. :)
That's odd when I am not signed in there is no picture but when I am there is a picture of the Starlord Special.
Please somebody explain? :o
I can't explain! I thought you were replying to my picture of my bound progs. That one's nothing to do with me!
Quote from: matty_ae on 23 April, 2017, 07:32:13 AM
Here's the answer to 'should you get the Special bound in with the Star Lord comics?'
Looking at the Star Lords, the height is completely different way too much to trim. You can see it here.
Damn you IPC why did you do stupid things like this?
The binders will line the top of the comics up. My Star Lord Special is in with the rest of the comics.
Quote from: glassstanley on 21 September, 2017, 06:35:21 PM
I can't explain! I thought you were replying to my picture of my bound progs. That one's nothing to do with me!
When you said Matty-e I saw your username & thought you'd mis-typed Matey!
There a thread from a while ago where many of us expressed kindness and understanding for the unique way others choose to file their stuff. Its so personal and one person's A-Z is another persons mumbled mess. So please know I say what I'm about to say with both kindness and envy for the beautiful collection of bound volumes you have ... but...
For the love of God man get those Annuals into their own section they kill the flow man.
Beyond that HELLYEAH that's some glorious stuff you got going on!
Bunging everything in chronological order appeals to me. As does the binding in general. I shudder to think how much that must have cost, though. I'm already probably at the limits of what my geeky wife will be OK with, in terms of 2000 AD stuff. Binding all of the comics might push her over the edge.
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 21 September, 2017, 08:51:30 PM
For the love of God man get those Annuals into their own section they kill the flow man.
That's the one thing that bugs me. Every few weeks I'll move them together and every few weeks I'll move them back. Then at the weekend, the penny dropped ... matching slip cases!
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 21 September, 2017, 10:14:34 PM
Bunging everything in chronological order appeals to me. As does the binding in general. I shudder to think how much that must have cost, though. I'm already probably at the limits of what my geeky wife will be OK with, in terms of 2000 AD stuff. Binding all of the comics might push her over the edge.
It's taken *years* to get this far, spreading the cost. And you could always argue how much tidier things would be :)
My comics are all in white boxes under my office desk. Can't get much tidier, but Mrs G isn't happy they're essentially inaccessible.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 21 September, 2017, 11:47:57 PM
My comics are all in white boxes under my office desk. Can't get much tidier, but Mrs G isn't happy they're essentially inaccessible.
Where do your legs go?
I have a very big desk. Right now, there are three comic box stacks to the left of me, and four to the right (stacked two high), with a gap of about 70cm in the middle.
I've put this on the FB group but I've done up to prog 519 and I've pretty much run out of cash and progs.
It's a good time to jump off as I think the quality of the story-telling dips or repeats.
And that's all the bog paper ones done.
GlassStanley that wall is a thing of beauty.
I've just had a good stare at it and seen the chronology.
Are you using Hollingsworth & Moss as well?
Thank you. I love the extra design work on your bindings!
I'm using Blissetts. Think I found recommendations for them on a different forum.
I'm toying with the idea of making dust jackets next. I can see how I can do it relatively cheaply. It's the actual design that needs some thought. I'd want to use the relevant logo, plus have some kind of Contents table on the back. It would also need a template that's easy to modify as there's so many of them!
Once I'm up to date with the comics, I'm looking at slipcovers for the annuals, plus some sort of cover for the Poster Progs. I'm also playing with the eBooks of the Virgin novels, adding the Prelude from the Megs in. Then I'll make h/b copies to add to the wall.
My children have assured me that when I'm dead it's all going in the recycling !!!
As my binding progresses, I'm thinking about dustcovers too. Do you know where I can find large quality files/scans of the covers?
QuoteMy children have assured me that when I'm dead it's all going in the recycling !!!
Cut them out of the will.
These look amazing
Quote from: jpentz on 08 October, 2017, 10:41:52 AM
As my binding progresses, I'm thinking about dustcovers too. Do you know where I can find large quality files/scans of the covers?
Hi fella
You can search google setting size as anything bigger than 2 meg (that's how I found the Glenn Fabry wraparound) or scan off a decent copier at 600 dpi. My issue with the spine was that it would crop the image so I couldnt risk using a 2000ad cover in case the binding cropped the 2 for example. You wouldn't have that issue with a dust cover.
I finally called it a day at prog 699
Based on:
- Necropolis is a good end to so many Dredd story strands
- All the stories finish including Horned God and Strontium Final Solution
- I ran out of time, money and decent progs
Any chance of a shot of the end papers?
They are just white and doubled-over to stop them being 'stuck' to the progs.
I'll take a photo
I got a chance to take a look at these books at Lawgiver (at least I think that was you in the Ian Gibson queue!) and they really are a thing of beauty. I would have to buy a whole new run though as my early progs have all the star scans, competition coupons and random cool pages cut out of them!
Thanks for your kind words.
I've bought so many progs with pieces cut out of them.
Sometimes the whole centre spread missing.
That Ian Gibson queue was fun. Great guy.
Endpapers as requested
Quote from: matty_ae on 30 July, 2018, 11:44:19 AM
Thanks for your kind words.
I've bought so many progs with pieces cut out of them.
Sometimes the whole centre spread missing.
Some of my early progs were vandalised by an 8-year-old, who ripped posters off and blue-tacked them to the wall, cut out the Strontium Dog and Rogue Trooper standees and the like. If I had a time machine I'd have to tell the younger me not to do it!*
*after killing Hitler, of course.
Quote from: sheridan on 30 July, 2018, 05:38:36 PM
Quote from: matty_ae on 30 July, 2018, 11:44:19 AM
Thanks for your kind words.
I've bought so many progs with pieces cut out of them.
Sometimes the whole centre spread missing.
Some of my early progs were vandalised by an 8-year-old, who ripped posters off and blue-tacked them to the wall, cut out the Strontium Dog and Rogue Trooper standees and the like. If I had a time machine I'd have to tell the younger me not to do it!*
*after killing Hitler, of course.
...and before putting one penny into a bank account and buying a lottery ticket with the winning numbers, etc.