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Started by Jim_Campbell, 29 January, 2024, 02:28:51 PM

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Dash Decent

Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2024, 03:04:36 PMMaybe a Starship Troopers shape would work; creation, training, winning some initial test-battles with ease, some passing clues to a TG but nothing this film relies on, climax with the Quartz Massacre.

Pro: I like the idea of seeing more of the GIs.  If they are all as capable of Rogue (which they should be, trained from the test tube to now), the remnant that landed okay should take time to whittle away.

Con: We'll see Rogue working with his squaddie mates but he won't be the loner with talking gun, bag and hat that is a big part of what sets him apart from other characters (and - ugh - 'franchises') out there.
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Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2024, 05:59:08 PMBagman, jeez, that's a tough one. Baggage Squad, specialising in logistics and systems? Bagpipe Squad, basically the G.I. Regiment's band? Bagatelle Squad, who specialise in soft furnishings? Nope, it ain't gonna work, is it? *sigh*

Okay, so Bagman ruins everything. Again.

Way to go, Bagman.

Maybe BAG is an acronym, and he's known as a BAGman because he's a BAG specialist or works in B&G.  We just need to work out a good backronym for BAG - Ballistics & Grenades, Ballistics Air/Ground, etc.  The others make fun and say it stands for 'Bawl & Give up' or some such.
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sheridan

Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2024, 02:58:36 AMThe Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Massacre.

That's easy for you to say.

sheridan

Quote from: Fortnight on 01 February, 2024, 03:17:26 PMI have no skin in the Rogue Trooper game as I've not read any, but I used to be in the camp of "one-off films are better than TV or film series" but my views have changed over the last decade or so.

A standalone film never seems to be sufficient to tell a complex or detailed story without feeling rushed, incomplete, or just badly edited.

I'd sort of agree, but as much as we all love 2000AD, it isn't Marvel or DC and we have to assume there won't be any direct follow-up film unless we're all very lucky.

Jim_Campbell

I'm not sure why the issue of the biochips' names seems so intractable... I agree that the GIs having names that handily fit the equipment they end up in is both hokey and strains credulity.

OTOH, it's not really unusual for squaddies to give one another nicknames, often intended to wind the recipient of the nickname up. It doesn't seem a stretch to imagine that Rogue might give the biochips nicknames that are a bit on the nose, or even that the biochips might choose their own — clone soldiers bred to fight and die aren't likely to be long on imagination (almost certainly by design) and I could see a scene like that working... particularly if they only had designated numbers before they died.
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sheridan

The Battlestar Galactica (reimagined)* callsign route...


* the first time it was reimagined if you're reading this in the future and the second reboot has occurred.

Link Prime

In a world where John Q. Public recently had to swallow such fish bones as Harleen Quinzel, Otto Octavius, Edward Nygma and <choke> Blackagar Boltagon, I think we'll be just fine.

The nickname / call-sign route is the obvious one to take, as with the excellent IDW version of Rogue.

JayzusB.Christ

While I have absolutely no problem with Helm, Gunnar and Bagman being the chips' names (though ideally retconned to be given AFTER they were fitted in their respective slots), I honestly think The War Machine GI names were far more convincing. 

Friday, Top, Lucky and Eightball sound exactly like names that bored tecchies might give to their lab creations. John Smith did a decent job of continuing that tradition in a Friday text story in an otherwise terrible RT special - Heartache, Dogtag, Gopher etc.
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Hawkmumbler

Can't wait for the Mercy Heights mid-credit scene...

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Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 02 February, 2024, 11:13:12 AMWhile I have absolutely no problem with Helm, Gunnar and Bagman being the chips' names (though ideally retconned to be given AFTER they were fitted in their respective slots), I honestly think The War Machine GI names were far more convincing. 

Friday, Top, Lucky and Eightball sound exactly like names that bored tecchies might give to their lab creations. John Smith did a decent job of continuing that tradition in a Friday text story in an otherwise terrible RT special - Heartache, Dogtag, Gopher etc.

I think you're right that the biochips' names should be assigned to them after they die, but for me it really has to be the classic names. I'm sure I saw that Duncan Jones has cast those parts, too.

JayzusB.Christ

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Oh, absolutely - while I thought that the Friday version's names were probably more realistic, I really don't want them to be in the movie. Dave Gibbons and Will Simpson's dead GIs were never meant to be biochips anyway.

The Scavenger of Souls? Leave it out.
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judgeurko

I think a one & done. The Quartz Massacre storyline. & Rogue walking out into the distance at the end. or something akin to a Mad Max movie. But I think the idea of disfigured villains now? Surely we've grown up a bit now.

Funt Solo

Quote from: judgeurko on 08 February, 2024, 07:48:45 PMSurely we've grown up a bit now.

I'm not saying it's the correct approach, but it's still quite common:







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The Legendary Shark


Yeah, the one-and-done (with a few hopeful seeds) sounds the best approach to me.

Open to the chemical Hell of Nu Earth, some heroic last stand. Doomed heroes, until... something starts eradicating the enemy. A blue ghost emerging from the chem clouds, twin red lights of his helmet obscuring his face. "This way." "It's him!" "Who?" Smash into credits and flashback to the build up to the Quartz Massacre. 

Or, y'know, whatever the pros come up with should be fine.

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