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Title: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Colin YNWA on 24 January, 2022, 06:11:29 AM
Well if Week 1 was a gentle phasing in of quality from Round 1 with some pretty ropey ties, Week 2 hits us right between the eyes with the other end of things. This is the week that if I'd been feeling a little fast and loose with the draw I could have opened with. There's some mouth watering ties and some decisions that will make your eyes water. THIS is what Round 2 is all about...

We start as we mean to go on an early, underrated (personal opinionTM) classic - sure it's about a man whose innards were exposed but it took a weak concept to some fantastic places. It's up against an early John Smith classic, which provided some very VERY confusing stuff, but also one of the great early Smith tales in 'Deus ex machina'. Things ain't going to get easier:

Visible Man - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=VISIBLE)

Vs

Tyranny Rex - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=tyranny)

Just reply in this thread naming your favourite thrill of these two series at the beginning of your post (or use Bold tags so I can spot it easily) and say what you like about these wonderful stories after that.

Match ends early on the morning of Thursday 27th January  and the winner gets a place in Round 3 (of 9!!!).

What on Earth is ALL of this? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.0)

For those that need 'um and can be bothered to follow 'um there's some simple rules (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.msg1070150#msg1070150)

Any questions, just ask as ever - and have FUN!
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: broodblik on 24 January, 2022, 06:20:12 AM
Abstaining since I do not like any of the two
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Huey2 on 24 January, 2022, 06:32:51 AM
Tyranny Rex
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: rogue69 on 24 January, 2022, 07:43:52 AM
Visible Man
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: abelardsnazz on 24 January, 2022, 07:56:39 AM
Tyranny Rex.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Magnetica on 24 January, 2022, 08:55:33 AM
Visible Man


I always thought the Visible Man was a good example of 2000AD taking the name of something and using that as inspiration, but turning it into something completely different. In this case The Invisible Man becomes The Visible Man.

(I have actually no idea if that was the actual inspiration here, but I like to think it was).
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Blue Cactus on 24 January, 2022, 09:08:42 AM
Tyranny Rex
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: AlexF on 24 January, 2022, 09:38:07 AM
Two amazing characters with all-time great names, both in search of actual stories to tell. John Smith tried at least three different genres with Tyranny Rex, somewhere between art-heists and existential horror and just plain comedy, but I don't know that any single version was a total success, depsite the stellar art. Visbile Man, too, was blessed with superb artists but never got as far as having any sort of plot beyond 'going on the run, then suddenly turning into an avenging angel'.
I'd be excited to see either character back in the Prog but perhaps with all-new creative teams.
Gonna go with Tyranny Rex as the slightly more satisfying read.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: norton canes on 24 January, 2022, 10:17:47 AM
I remember as a sensitive ten-year-old being quite distressed by the scene where Visible Man Frank gatecrashes a wedding and starts eating the cake. I feel Tyranny Rex deserves this for being more fleshed out but to be honest I don't remember much about it except it starts off with a Prince clone.

So for making an indelible impression: The Visible Man
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: I, Cosh on 24 January, 2022, 12:18:48 PM
Visible Man is a one-joke strip but it's quite a good joke and the Henry Flint one-off was a fun reminder of it. Happy for it to come back again in another thirty years.

Tyranny Rex is a strip where I always feel like I'm too stupid to fully grasp what's going on. It has some of the deliberately distancing effect of early Indigo Prime but never quite manages to grow past that.

I'll always prefer a Thrill which makes me try and seems to be reaching for something over something from before I'd even heard of Tharg: Tyranny Rex.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Southstreeter on 24 January, 2022, 01:10:10 PM
Visible Man. A perfect example of a daft OTT 70s thrill. Tyranny Rex was always too clever by half, I could never figure out what was going on. Shatterlight and poppycock indeed.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 24 January, 2022, 01:52:26 PM
really can't stand either. abstain.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Link Prime on 24 January, 2022, 05:30:34 PM
Tyranny Rex by an inter-dimensional mile.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: paddykafka on 24 January, 2022, 05:42:56 PM
Visible Man
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Funt Solo on 24 January, 2022, 05:56:51 PM
Tyranny Rex had legs. Opaque legs.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: credo on 25 January, 2022, 08:50:05 AM
Tyranny Rex

Deus Ex Machina is a classic and I won't hear anything different. Would love to see a return (folded into Kek-W's Indigo Prime?)
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 25 January, 2022, 09:38:19 AM
AlexF has nailed it - what we have here is two visually interesting characters in search of a story.

Tyranny Rex tends to display all the worst of John Smith's excesses - technobabble and obtuseness aplenty. I like most of her stories, but I don't love any of them, and some are unnecessarily hard work for not much reward.

I'm going to surprise myself a bit by voting for The Visible Man. It's a trifle corny and juvenile, yes, but at least it's a straightforward tale, and that's not always a bad thing. It struggled a bit with forward direction, but it did feel like the Flint/Hitchcock episodes were going somewhere interesting.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: IndigoPrime on 25 January, 2022, 10:02:20 AM
I read the entire Tyranny Rex run quite recently in the Hachette collection. Stylistically, it's all over the place, but its highs are really strong. So that wins it for me over a one-note character that never gelled with me.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: sheridan on 25 January, 2022, 02:22:27 PM
I'm going to abstain as both had good and bad points, but congratulations for getting the body horror double bill from different eras competing against each other!
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 January, 2022, 06:40:07 AM
Some good cut and thrust here and there's seems to be a clear frontrunner from a quick scan, but plenty of support for each thrill so final day votes could move the way this one goes when I finally count up tomorrow morning and announce the result.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Tomwe on 26 January, 2022, 09:41:18 AM
Tyranny Rex
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: sintec on 26 January, 2022, 06:19:38 PM
Read both of these for the first time fairly recently. Far preferred Tyranny Rex
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Visible Man vs. Tyranny Rex Round 2 Heat 09
Post by: Colin YNWA on 27 January, 2022, 06:20:26 AM
VOTING CLOSED

Really mxied bag this one. There was a number of folks who abstained, a number of votes for each of the thrills. A really great example of two very different thrills evoking very varied reactions. Both thrills have their merits, they are truly original and exciting in what they do. Only one has a thrill as fantastic as De ex Machina and I suspect on that basis

Tyranny Rex

stays out the nunnery and takes her tail into Round 3