Prometheus

[James Stacey]

Watched the Duellists again the other day and its still awesome. That might partly be for the costume porn in it mind. Black Hawk Down is pretty good and I enjoyed Kingdom of Heaven (although I'll admit I'm probably the only one). He's hardly a hack to the same level of Lucas though who only ever directed one good film and the majority of stuff he's written has only been rescued with different directors beating it into shape.

[Colin YNWA]

Yeah I watched 'The Duellists' again not that long ago and it really is a bit of a classic. Absolutely love it. To a great degree the acting for the two central characters wins the day but its a fine film all round....

...which to stay on topic I hope is referenced in his new film...ahem...

[mygrimmbrother]

True enough James. I haven't seen the Duellists for years - will have to check it out again, cheers for the reminder guys 

[radiator]

I haven't seen that many of Scott's films, but he seems to me to turn out a lot of three-star type movies - not terrible, but not great either and ultimately quite forgettable. I wouldn't call him a 'hack' but I do think he's still coasting on work he did thirty years ago to some extent. I think people are deluding themselves to think that Prometheus is going to be significantly better than everything else he's done in recent years.

Alien is of course superb (and is the only Scott film I own), but I've never 'got' Blade Runner. I can appreciate it from a visual and design point of view, but as an actual film it bores me senseless. Tried to watch it many times and always end up falling asleep or getting bored and switching it off. Should probably give it another go one of these days.

The cast for Prometheus looks great - but that means nothing without a decent script - as for that, who knows? I'm not a fan of Lost and am not really familiar with Lindelof's other work.

Tbh I was far more interested to see Scott's planned adaptation of The Forever War, which seems to be firmly on the back-burner now. The novel has such an interesting story and concept that, while in need of updating, would be pretty hard to screw up cinematically.

[Spikes]

Yeah I watched 'The Duellists' again not that long ago and it really is a bit of a classic.

It really is a lovely little film, and maybe one that slips under the radar a bit.
Has Scott's stamp all over it, while his later films could have been from anyone really. He may not be everyones cup of tea, but i wouldnt say he's a spent force.
...and while Alien gets all the love, we'd do well to remember, at its heart, its a polished b-movie.
But i sincerely doubt that Prometheus is in any danger of becoming the Alien franchises Phantom Menance. Admittedly, after over 30 years worth of history, what was once shocking and unique, now has a ring of familiarity about it, and some people will moan at whatever, but im excited (as with Dredd) and ill make my mind up when it hits the cinema.

[dweezil2]

Kingdom Of Heaven-The Directors Cut (avoid the cinema version) is a superb film and let's not forget Thelma And Louise, another exceptional film.

[Richmond Clements]

Kingdom Of Heaven-The Directors Cut (avoid the cinema version) is a superb film and let's not forget Thelma And Louise, another exceptional film.

Agreed. Thelma and Louise is probably the last genuinely great movie he made.

[Proudhuff]

and who can forgot White Squall? all of us hopefully.

[dweezil2]

and who can forgot White Squall? all of us hopefully.

So what?

He's made two genre defining films like Alien and Blade Runner and very few directors can lay claim to the same.

Every director, no matter how great, has got a few failures in their back catalogue.

[radiator]

He's made two genre defining films like Alien and Blade Runner and very few directors can lay claim to the same.

Every director, no matter how great, has got a few failures in their back catalogue.

I don't believe he should get a free pass just because he made two very respected and influential films thirty years ago. You're only as good as your last film.

Ridely Scott's filmography:

The Duellists
Alien
Blade Runner
Legend
Someone to Watch Over Me
Black Rain
Thelma & Louise
1492: Conquest of Paradise
White Squall
GI Jane
Gladiator
Hannibal
Black Hawk Down
Matchstick Men
Kingdom of Heaven
A Good Year
American Gangster
Body of Lies
Robin Hood

[dweezil2]

He's made two genre defining films like Alien and Blade Runner and very few directors can lay claim to the same.

Every director, no matter how great, has got a few failures in their back catalogue.

I don't believe he should get a free pass just because he made two very respected and influential films thirty years ago. You're only as good as your last film.

Ridely Scott's filmography:

The Duellists
Alien
Blade Runner
Legend
Someone to Watch Over Me
Black Rain
Thelma & Louise
1492: Conquest of Paradise
White Squall
GI Jane
Gladiator
Hannibal
Black Hawk Down
Matchstick Men
Kingdom of Heaven
A Good Year
American Gangster
Body of Lies
Robin Hood

And I enjoyed both Body Of Lies and American Gangster, haven't seen Robin Hood so can't comment.

Prometheus could be a huge disappointment but at least it has a better chance of succeeding with Scott at the helm, rather than a McG or Micheal Bay calling the shots.

[Spikes]

Is anybody on here actually saying he should be given a free pass?
I dont think im deluding myself over Prometheus either. What ive seen so far ticks all the boxes for me, and what Ridley himself has said im excited by. If, when i see it at the cinema, it turns out to be a pile of shit, ill be the first to post that on here.

My all time favourite shot in Alien is the reveal of the Spacejockey inside the derelict,
Now by seemingly focusing, and maybe expanding upon, the one remaining mysterious aspect of the Alien story, the biggest potential risk, for Prometheus, is to have an audience (especially the hardcore fans) go "is that it?!? Ive waited 30+ years for that!?! Rubbish!
As every though, itll all be down to personal taste if Prometheus satisfies or not.

Prometheus could be a huge disappointment but at least it has a better chance of succeeding with Scott at the helm, rather than a McG or Micheal Bay calling the shots.

Hell, Yes!

[The Adventurer]

Its my understanding that Robin Hood got strewed up somewhere along the way due to changes in its script. I don't know if it was Russell Crow, the Studio, or Scott himself that changed the intent of the original script. But originally wasn't it suppose to be called Nottingham, and be from the point of view of the Sheriff? Because that sounds a lot more interesting then what we got.

I haven't seen all of Scott's filmography, but I have a good track record from his last decade. And between Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut, American Gangster, and Gladiator I have a lot of good faith toward the director. And the fact is, Prometheus will be his big return to Science Fiction, and his Science Fiction track record is a perfect score.


I really should watch Matchstick Men at some point. If only because apparently Sam Rockwell is in it. Love that guy.

[Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty)]

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[Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty)]

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