2000 AD Online Forum

Spoilers => Megazine => Topic started by: Eamonn Clarke on 12 May, 2019, 01:57:08 PM

Title: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 12 May, 2019, 01:57:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/36BT8ZC.jpg)

Dredd - Kenneth Niemand again, and Nick Dyer cursed earth artwork.

Lawless - does a talky GoT politicing episode with Phil Winslade's amazing penwork ruling the roost. And a Landraider appearance?!

Storm Warning - wraps up with some more spooky stuff.

A Tale from the Black Museum by Rory McConville and Neil Goodge. Obvious cricket bat from the Cornetto trilogy but don't recognise the axe (but should do).

The Torture Garden looks creepy but I haven't read this one yet.

Interrogations with Geoff Senior and Abigail Bulmer, and the floppy is Mind Wars vol 1

Pick of the Meg is still Lawless but I enjoyed the wrap up of the Dredd cursed earth story.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 12 May, 2019, 01:57:44 PM
cover is Cliff Robinson with Dylan Teague colours
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Richard on 12 May, 2019, 02:16:22 PM
Delighted with Mind Wars!

Dredd, Lawless and Torture Garden are all excellent. Haven't read the others yet.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: titchard on 13 May, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Read the majority of this last night as some of the story arcs were half way through when I jumped onto reading the Megazine.

I really enjoyed Dredd, having that Alex Jones-esque radio broadcasting from a former Judge was a great touch, especially with such a hardliner in Dredd saying it is all ridiculous what he is broadcasting.  To me, Dredd is really unreliable here as he is so true to the law and the Judges it got me thinking that even when faced with possibility that they are corrupt at the core and controlling the population would he even truly question it?

The bit about having coffee/tea etc banned but weaponry and alcohol is still freely available made me think this.

A Tale From the Black Museum was fantastic, and I absolutely loved the artwork - definitely one that stood out most to be over the last month or so artwork-wise.  Loved the arc of the story, felt well paced and not rushed.

Both interviews were really fascinating.  I definitely took a lot from Abigail Bulmer as she works at Forbidden Planet and works on her comics in her free time, this definitely was inspiring to me as an aspiring writer and creator!
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: sheridan on 13 May, 2019, 02:18:11 PM
Quote from: Richard on 12 May, 2019, 02:16:22 PM
Delighted with Mind Wars!

Dredd, Lawless and Torture Garden are all excellent. Haven't read the others yet.

Finally made it to the floppy then?  Wonder what delayed it for so long?
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: broodblik on 13 May, 2019, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 13 May, 2019, 02:18:11 PM
Quote from: Richard on 12 May, 2019, 02:16:22 PM
Delighted with Mind Wars!

Dredd, Lawless and Torture Garden are all excellent. Haven't read the others yet.

Finally made it to the floppy then?  Wonder what delayed it for so long?

The last 4 months they where doing "Operation Overlord".
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Anthony Garnon on 13 May, 2019, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: titchard on 13 May, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Both interviews were really fascinating.  I definitely took a lot from Abigail Bulmer as she works at Forbidden Planet and works on her comics in her free time, this definitely was inspiring to me as an aspiring writer and creator!

Wrong comic book store! She works at Travelling Man - but regardless, great it inspires you.

(I work at Forbidden Planet, and am equally inspired most days!)
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: titchard on 13 May, 2019, 09:18:31 PM
Quote from: Anthony Garnon on 13 May, 2019, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: titchard on 13 May, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Both interviews were really fascinating.  I definitely took a lot from Abigail Bulmer as she works at Forbidden Planet and works on her comics in her free time, this definitely was inspiring to me as an aspiring writer and creator!

Wrong comic book store! She works at Travelling Man - but regardless, great it inspires you.

(I work at Forbidden Planet, and am equally inspired most days!)

Doh! Considering whenever I visit my friend in Manchester I always go into Travelling Man, I don't know how I managed to mess that up!

Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Freddychopper on 14 May, 2019, 07:46:39 PM
Top issue - SPOILER - that headshot in the Torture Garden - ouch! Great image!- (Don't think he's dead, though)... Love this series!
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 15 May, 2019, 01:31:19 PM
Is it only in the south east that this Meg seems not to have been distributed today?
SBT
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: broodblik on 15 May, 2019, 07:56:14 PM
A great edition of the Meg again and what a cover. Glad that Mind Wars made it this time around
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: sheridan on 15 May, 2019, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: titchard on 13 May, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
I really enjoyed Dredd, having that Alex Jones-esque radio broadcasting from a former Judge was a great touch, especially with such a hardliner in Dredd saying it is all ridiculous what he is broadcasting.  To me, Dredd is really unreliable here as he is so true to the law and the Judges it got me thinking that even when faced with possibility that they are corrupt at the core and controlling the population would he even truly question it?


Not sure I follow your point - Dredd has questioned the system a number of times.  Most notably the first time he took the long walk.  The second time resulted in mutants being allowed in to the Big Meg.

QuoteBoth interviews were really fascinating.  I definitely took a lot from Abigail Bulmer as she works at Forbidden Planet and works on her comics in her free time, this definitely was inspiring to me as an aspiring writer and creator!


I think you'll find she works at Travelling Man!
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: sheridan on 15 May, 2019, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 15 May, 2019, 01:31:19 PM
Is it only in the south east that this Meg seems not to have been distributed today?
SBT
I've got mine (London rather than SE).
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Colin YNWA on 15 May, 2019, 09:48:13 PM
Saving Mind Wars until later, but so far so good and with pages and pages of Redondo art things are looking good.

Who is that masked man, Kenneth Neimand does it again with another fantastic Dredd - I will be so disappointed if he turns out just to be a bloke with a name of vaguely German origin. Oh and Nick Dwyer channels Ian Kennedy and knocks it out the park again. Slips in a nice personal (I assume) tribute too. Loved this one.

But there's loving something and there's Lawless. Lawless makes loving a comic strip more than just loving a comic strip it makes it Muublantnigglsprang which is the term used in Papua New Guinea for more than love.

Stormwarning was probably pretty good and looked great, just I've kinda stopped being engaged - shame

Unlike Black Museum which looked great and was engaging from start to end, enjoyed this one.

Torture Garden has never quite lived up to its early promise but its remained pretty damned good and this continues in that vein.

Decent text stuff and Mind Wars to come. Good Meg.

Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: sheridan on 15 May, 2019, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: Anthony Garnon on 13 May, 2019, 08:01:13 PM
(I work at Forbidden Planet, and am equally inspired most days!)


Which branch?  Do you get many Squaxx in there, or do we tend to subscribe or pick up from certain stationery/newsagent chains?
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: sheridan on 15 May, 2019, 09:53:10 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 15 May, 2019, 09:48:13 PM
Saving Mind Wars until later, but so far so good and with pages and pages of Redondo art things are looking good.

It's been a while since I read Mind Wars - really looking forward to it, though trying to decide whether I should read tonight or leave it 'til the weekend...

QuoteWho is that masked man, Kenneth Neimand does it again with another fantastic Dredd - I will be so disappointed if he turns out just to be a bloke with a name of vaguely German origin. Oh and Nick Dwyer channels Ian Kennedy and knocks it out the park again. Slips in a nice personal (I assume) tribute too. Loved this one.

I liked the tribute too - RIP David Dyer.

As for Kenneth Neimand - presumably not Mr Smith, as Tharg's right-hand droid seems not to be shy about claiming credit.  Keith Richardson has one or two known aliases.  Who else is there?  Molch-R?  Or, y'know, as you say, a real person whose real surname is Neimand.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: IndigoPrime on 15 May, 2019, 10:11:37 PM
Some good stuff in this issue, but I enjoyed the text pieces too. It made me wish we got more Senior comics (and it seems if he could, he'd pen more); Senior on ABC Warriors would be fab. Also, I want to see an entire run of Gums by the team who did that one-off in the special.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Frank on 15 May, 2019, 10:53:37 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 15 May, 2019, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: titchard on 13 May, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Dredd is really unreliable here as he is so true to the law and the Judges it got me thinking that even when faced with the possibility that they are corrupt at the core and controlling the population would he even truly question it?

Dredd has questioned the system a number of times.  Most notably the first time he took the long walk.  The second time resulted in mutants being allowed into the Big Meg.

Dredd was playing dumb to get Harrigan so angry he regained his focus and directed it into proving himself against their common enemy:

(https://i.imgur.com/W3fW60W.png?2)

Harrigan's treatise on the real purpose of Megacity One's petty laws and Justice Department's co-dependent relationship with organised crime was great stuff; the kind of deep cut someone very familiar with the material gets into. The writing's assured, too. He's definitely done this before.

Want to hear something crazy? Winslade works at 1:1 scale. That meticulous hatching and stupid amount of detail in every panel is the same size when he pops it in the post as it is when you read it in the comic. I imagine he's half blind and has a hand like an irate Judge Grice (http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/841.jpg).


Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 15 May, 2019, 11:12:47 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 15 May, 2019, 09:53:10 PM
As for Kenneth Neimand - presumably not Mr Smith, as Tharg's right-hand droid seems not to be shy about claiming credit.

As has been noted before, an editor handing themselves prize writing jobs in their own title, pseudonym or not, is a thing unheard-of since the dark days of Alan McKenzie (Andy Diggle only got away with Lenny Zero because he didn't take any money for it) and would prompt Millsian floods of ire from the freelancers.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Colin YNWA on 16 May, 2019, 06:05:43 AM
I think we've had confirm from both that its not them... I think...

My bet is its David Benioff worried that a back up plan might now be in order?
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Anthony Garnon on 16 May, 2019, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 15 May, 2019, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: Anthony Garnon on 13 May, 2019, 08:01:13 PM
(I work at Forbidden Planet, and am equally inspired most days!)


Which branch?  Do you get many Squaxx in there, or do we tend to subscribe or pick up from certain stationery/newsagent chains?

I don't know about customers - but this Squaxx still subscribes!

I'm based at head office. Formerly of the marketing department, where I ran in store signing events and digitalised their signing archive (available to view for free on FP's website!).

These days I'm the company's Licensing Manager, leading the creative on the t-shirts you see in store (sadly no 2000AD).

When I worked in store we got two types of 2000AD customer:

1) the die-hard regulars, in every Wedsnesday/for signings. A healthy amount of them, too.

2) young tourists (15-30 years old) who have heard about the comic and now they are in the UK want to try it out.  (They almost always asked where's the best place to start on Dredd)
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: WhizzBang on 16 May, 2019, 09:49:58 PM
Quote from: Anthony Garnon on 16 May, 2019, 09:14:38 PM
  (They almost always asked where's the best place to start on Dredd)
What do you tell them? Case Files 3 is a good starting place.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Anthony Garnon on 16 May, 2019, 10:18:29 PM
Quote from: WhizzBang on 16 May, 2019, 09:49:58 PM
Quote from: Anthony Garnon on 16 May, 2019, 09:14:38 PM
  (They almost always asked where's the best place to start on Dredd)
What do you tell them? Case Files 3 is a good starting place.

Strangely enough it was Case Files 3! We'd get folk returning for 4 and 5 pretty quickly.

At signings when asked about more recent series I'd say Zombo, Low Life,The Simping Detective and - if they fancied any of those - I'd suggest Trifecta "to read last"! Sadly we didn't often have much Nikolai Dante, or I'd have offered that too.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: broodblik on 18 May, 2019, 07:37:50 PM
Finished Mind Wars and a real classic. The art of Redondo is awesome with a very lively paced script by Hebden. Cannot wait for the last part next month.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Keef Monkey on 20 May, 2019, 10:25:23 AM
A good meg, although I haven't read the floppy just yet.

Dredd and The Torture Garden were the highlights for me, and I'm really looking forward to reading all of The Torture Garden in a oner because I think it'll work great that way. It's definitely suffered a little for being so spread out, in one sitting I think it'll be a great horror sci-fi gem.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: sheridan on 20 May, 2019, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: Anthony Garnon on 16 May, 2019, 09:14:38 PM
I don't know about customers - but this Squaxx still subscribes!

I'm based at head office. Formerly of the marketing department, where I ran in store signing events and digitalised their signing archive (available to view for free on FP's website!).


Is that the one in the flyers-for-forthcoming-signings-racks?


QuoteThese days I'm the company's Licensing Manager, leading the creative on the t-shirts you see in store (sadly no 2000AD).

When I worked in store we got two types of 2000AD customer:

1) the die-hard regulars, in every Wedsnesday/for signings. A healthy amount of them, too.

2) young tourists (15-30 years old) who have heard about the comic and now they are in the UK want to try it out.  (They almost always asked where's the best place to start on Dredd)


Good news on both fronts!
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: metcalfecarr on 21 May, 2019, 05:22:25 PM
Things I didn't like - the repro on some pages of Mind Wars where in part it was like someone had run off pages of the brown paint era Slaine on a crap photocopier

John Charles' garishly bright colours on Dredd taking me back to ALan Craddock and his early days of computer colouring

Things I did like - the genius of Redondo on Mind Wars

The Torture Garden.  I'm not usually a fan of Nick Percival's soft focus approach but this was great stuff

Lawless - how the hell does Phil Winslade do it?  Excellent script as well.

Tom Fowler's slightly thicker art, it's provided solidity to his work,

Cliff Robinson's cover - epic.

All in all a great issue that only had niggles rather than gripes
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Keef Monkey on 22 May, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
I got a few chapters into Mind Wars and realized I had no idea what was going on from panel to panel for some reason, so I stopped! Possibly I just wasn't very with it when I sat down to read it, but I just wasn't taking it in at all.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: metcalfecarr on 24 May, 2019, 08:03:16 AM
Also, nice to see Matthew Badham back on interview duties.  You could alwaus be guaranteed an interview that wasnt the usual suspects with him.  I would never have expected to see an Abby Bulmer feature but I'm glad that it happened
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Bolt-01 on 24 May, 2019, 11:50:27 AM
Following that feature I made sure I picked up the first issue of Abby's self published book and was not disappointed at all. A cracking read that if I still had younglings in need of introducing to comics I'd pass over. Heartily recommended.
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: DrJomster on 16 July, 2019, 11:12:53 PM
I'm going to pick up a copy too. Good article!

Haven't read Mind Wars yet but very much looking forward to it. Ah, Redondo!

Good Meg this month, good people. Luckily I'm playing catch up so I can read the next one whenever I like!
Title: Re: Meg 408 - Hard Country for Old Men
Post by: Funt Solo on 06 May, 2021, 05:51:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/aQPURDx.png)

Another *yay* moment  - a Killdozer showing up - gives me a chance to get the toy down off the shelf and fire a couple of rockets in celebration.

Ashes to Ashes, of course, being just a f*cking amazing piece of comic storytelling and Lawless being the *real* flagship story of the Meg.