The Political Thread

[Professor Bear]

If anyone can explain to me the difference between the activities of successive UK governments between 1985 and 2006, exchanging Saudi blood money for clean UK tax payer's cash via the exchange of oil - or how that gives the highest offices of state any more dignity or integrity than the porn shops organised criminals use to launder the proceeds of violence and vice - wins a special prize.

The army and police force are the means through which the state's monopoly on the use of violence to enforce its will is how we maintain a healthy democracy, and if you take that to its logical end, the state must be allowed the use of other acts - lies, murder, torture, theft - that would unconscionable if perpetrated by one citizen upon another.  The government is allowed to beat the shit out of you and bang you up for years if you don't cough up your taxes - a tithe they have not in any way earned which is taken from the poor and given to the rich - yet the small businessmen of the local mafia try this same tactic on a smaller scale and they're branded criminals - "one law for some" is hardly a new situation.

[Spikes]

Glad Booth, I means Mitt not in!

As Dredd would say - one job at a time.
So, just the Mayan's to defeat now, 

[TordelBack]

Given that the POTUS is just a figurehead moved this way and that by big business and old money, I suppose it's a good thing that the effigy that was selected represents much of what is good about the USA (progressive change, melting pot, and looking cool), while the rejected placeholder evokes much of what is wrong with it (superior, rich and wilfully ignorant). 

[Dandontdare]

Alan Moore has released a single called The Decline of English Murder, in support of the Occupy Movement - I don't think it'll trouble the charts much!

Sample line: "Your average psychopath at least kills with a hammer or brick / And not with greed and incompetence / And after two or three years maybe they'll express remorse."

[Frank]

If anyone can explain to me the difference between the activities of successive UK governments between 1985 and 2006, exchanging Saudi blood money for clean UK tax payer's cash via the exchange of oil - or how that gives the highest offices of state any more dignity or integrity than the porn shops organised criminals use to launder the proceeds of violence and vice - wins a special prize.

The army and police force are the means through which the state's monopoly on the use of violence to enforce its will is how we maintain a healthy democracy, and if you take that to its logical end, the state must be allowed the use of other acts - lies, murder, torture, theft - that would unconscionable if perpetrated by one citizen upon another.  The government is allowed to beat the shit out of you and bang you up for years if you don't cough up your taxes - a tithe they have not in any way earned which is taken from the poor and given to the rich - yet the small businessmen of the local mafia try this same tactic on a smaller scale and they're branded criminals - "one law for some" is hardly a new situation.

Now I feel bad I didn't organise an actual prize.

[MercZ]

Speaking on the US elections for the moment, I must say that I wasn't in favor of either. My views are more to the left and both candidates were essentially moderates in the US sphere in the long run. Support the rich and continue the same foreign policy. Romney's campaign is believed to  have raised something like  $800 million total, Obama in the $9900 million. The Citizens United case really opened up the floodgates for corporate funding via Super PACs.

I ended up voting for the Green Party candidate Jill Stein, since her views were the closest to mine of those that had ballot access in Texas, and I figured it was the best use of a protest vote against the two party system compared to the other third parties.

Always bothered me how the pundits here claim Obama was a socialist (ie 'european-style' welfare state as Americans see it) or even a full blown Marxist because of his tax polices. I don't think he would even pass for a social democrat in Europe. Or the other stuff about him being a closeted Muslim with an agenda to intentionally weaken to US.

One thing amusing on this side of the ocean is what happens after the results are announced. Angry liberals are funny, but I say conservatives are a riot. Onwards!





and a big wtf on this


Following stuff via goptears.tumblr.com

RUSH: A note that I got from a good friend of mine — this is a fascinating little think piece. He lives in Kansas City. He's fed up with all the ads on TV. He's just fed up with it. His Romney sign was defaced. Cow manure was thrown all over it and underneath it on his yard. He says, "You know, I'm getting real tired of all the ads. I can't wait 'til tomorrow, and I hope your prediction is right. But here's my idea: Let's just flip a coin.

"If the Republicans win, they get to select the half of the country they want and the Democrats get the other half. You split this country right down the middle. Republicans pick the side they want; the Democrats get the other side. We have Mitt; they have Obama. You can live wherever you want to live. You choose which side you want to live in." He said, "The question is: How long would it be before Democrats are building tunnels to get underneath the wall keeping them out of the Republican side?"

Stop and think. This is a great illustration. You split the country right in half, right down the Mississippi River, and let's just say the Republicans get the left half the country and they build a wall. The Mississippi River is not a moat. You build a wall there. The Democrats get everything on the East and we get everything on the West. Or flip it. It doesn't matter. We get our ways of life on our side; they get their ways of life on theirs.

How long will it be before all those Democrats are trying to get over to our side?

How long? We'd have to have checkpoints! We'd have to shoot 'em on sight if they're trying to get into our side of the country, just like in the old East and West Germany days. Stop and think of that. It would make a great book: Talking about one side and comparing the two. It would be a great movie showing where certain companies chose to live, where certain people chose to live. It'd show how they chose to run their businesses, how they chose to manage their affairs.

[CrazyFoxMachine]

Ahaha.

This one's been doing the rounds heavily:

[Professor Bear]

Someone really needs to tell all those Republicans that Australia hasn't used criminals as the basis for their population since 1868.

[Definitely Not Mister Pops]

Ye know who they sound like?


Now, does Godwin's Law apply when you compare someone to any fascist, or is it only Hitler specifically?

[Richmond Clements]

Ye know who they sound like?


Now, does Godwin's Law apply when you compare someone to any fascist, or is it only Hitler specifically?

Ha! I was thinking the same thing!

[TordelBack]

Ha! I was thinking the same thing!

Face it, Joseph Stalin Dredd's a grudless communist - under his rule 90% are on 'handouts', vivisection became illegal and selective subsidised healthcare was introduced ("The City will pay!").  Then there's those filthy muties he loves so much - they took uhhhr juuhhbs. I hear his whole family are mutated, and what's with his niece's Brit accent? .

And then there's the discrepancies on his birth cert: why is there no record of him in MC-1 until age 5, hmmm?  Go back to Mutiestan, chinface!

[Richmond Clements]

Remain in your room, citizen, Judges will be along shortly to escort you to your cube.
Thank you for your cooperation.

[Dandontdare]

One thing amusing on this side of the ocean is what happens after the results are announced. Angry liberals are funny, but I say conservatives are a riot. Onwards!

This is true, and thanks for posting those hilarious examples. I checked out the Fox News website for the first time today just for the helluvit. Turns out it was the Liberal Media's fault for concentrating on all those irrelevant gaffes. Oh and the Jews. Who are liberal, but love Israel so they voted for the Israel-hating.. .. erm ... waitaminute..

[Minkyboy]

Perfect

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/obama-thanks-romney-for-being-such-a-penis-2012110748131

[MercZ]

This is true, and thanks for posting those hilarious examples. I checked out the Fox News website for the first time today just for the helluvit. Turns out it was the Liberal Media's fault for concentrating on all those irrelevant gaffes. Oh and the Jews. Who are liberal, but love Israel so they voted for the Israel-hating.. .. erm ... waitaminute..

Yeah, it's quite amusing really. I'm not sure where this Australia thing took off from but that image above from CrazyFoxMachine pretty much sums it up. I remember something similar about people threatening to move to Germany along similar lines. It's really batshit crazy, and being in Texas it's pretty much a normal occurrence here.

Speaking of which, I wonder what I'll do in 2014 for Texas's statewide elections. Maybe I'll do some write-ins for Dave the Orangutan?