I wonder what knock on effect it will have on the Galaxies Greatest?
Will there suddenly be a big influx of prog readers?
Merchandise?
If its a success and the sequels come into fruition Can you see more of our favourite characters hitting the big screen?
Exciting times for all
The forum will be overrun with kids who write awesome a lot.
Quote from: Beeks on 12 July, 2012, 09:36:10 PM...Can you see more of our favourite characters hitting the big screen?
I know the usual suspects that get suggested for future movies are Rogue Trooper, Strontium Dog, Button Man (which sort of nearly got made at some point). However personally I think an excellent starting point for a new generation of 2000AD movies would be Defoe. It would translate pretty well to the big screen I think and be quite marketable to boot.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 09:42:33 PM
The forum will be overrun with kids who write awesome a lot.
Well done for became first kid to do that! :lol:
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 09:42:33 PM
The forum will be overrun with kids who write awesome a lot.
We'll just have to educate them. The correct word is
arsom.
Awesome! And for extra whatevah - Awesomecakes!!!! ;)
Shucks, whatevah probably falls in the no-no list too. Sorry, Joe dude - shucks again, I bet my courgette plant dude is defo in that list. I fail so hard!
So! Yes, I definitely see more 2000AD in the cards. The unexpected thing now would be if that didn't happen. The way the mood out there seems to be now, and I don't mean after the screening - I'm talking more zeitgeisty thingabobby - it's teh right time. BUT and this might upset some, I see adaptation towards reality being the focus. Not sure how that will work out, but since I'm liking what they've done Dreddwise, I'm quite happy to go down that route with them.
Get ready for ACE TRUCKING CO. the movie.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:34:25 PM
Get ready for ACE TRUCKING CO. the movie.
Is this going to be the gritty, realistic version? :o
No, sexy-time.
I don't have a suitable reaction to that.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 10:34:25 PM
Get ready for ACE TRUCKING CO. the movie.
Robbie Coltraine as GBH?
Steve Buschemi as Feek
Justin Bieber as Maniac 5
Jason Statham as Bill Savage.
If i were doing Invasion/Savage, i'd cast Paterson Joseph as Bill, and i'd do it as an ongoing tv series for the 9pm slot on BBC2. But that may just because i really want a third series of Survivors.
Seriously though, Joseph'd be great as Savage. He's got the right likeable/scary balance.
But Statham would be good in a film version of Harry 20 On The High Rock, even though ive never seen a single film with Statham in it and any film version of H20otHR would come across like a low-budget scifi remake of Escape from Alcatraz, obviously. Actually, wasnt that already done with Christophe Lambert back in the 80s?
Meltdown Man would cost a bomb, but id love to see it.
SBT
Lockout, SBT... also how you know Statham would be good if you not see any films featured Statham?
Fiends of the Eastern Front, although it may have missed the vampire boat.
I dont, but i know what kind of films he does, have a good idea of his range, know what harry 20 the movie should be like, and know the kind of actor i'd cast as harry. Im trying to fix an actor for sam slade at the moment, but am having difficulty. In a perfect world jim dale, circa carry on, or harry h corbett.
SBT
QuoteSteve Buschemi as Feek
inspired!
I havnt paid a whole lot of attention to the Dredd film so far, I am really happy to see it getting good reviews.
If Dredd is a success, I hope its good. I hope its gives 2000ad a solid future, some spare cash to keep the current creators on the books and maybe bring a few back too.
The first Dredd damaged 2000ad, hopefully this one will secure its future.
Come to think of it they should just make every decent 2000AD character into a movie. There should also be a bottomless pit of money in order to achieve this.
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 July, 2012, 11:49:48 PMI dont, but i know what kind of films he does, have a good idea of his range, know what harry 20 the movie should be like, and know the kind of actor i'd cast as harry.
Though I imagine you look down upon the Transporter and Crank franchises as tawdry working class indulgences, I'm surprised you haven't seen the Death Race remake yet, SBT - or Fortress 2.
Success with the cinematic Dredd might coax comics and movie superstar Mark Millar back to 2000ad to show us Dredd done right. Personally, I pray for the day to come.
I imagine even a successful Dredd film will make little difference to 2000 AD. Bear in mind that blockbuster success stories barely impact on comic-book sales, so even a surprise hit in Dredd probably won't see 2000 AD's circulation soar. The prospect of more 2000 AD properties being optioned is perhaps more likely, although with most of them being unknown and a bit weird, they're more of a risk than Dredd (except, perhaps, Sláine, although that would have to fight comparisons with Conan).
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 13 July, 2012, 01:00:52 AM
(except, perhaps, Sláine, although that would have to fight comparisons with Conan).
And The Raid...
Probably
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 13 July, 2012, 01:00:52 AM
I imagine even a successful Dredd film will make little difference to 2000 AD. Bear in mind that blockbuster success stories barely impact on comic-book sales, so even a surprise hit in Dredd probably won't see 2000 AD's circulation soar. The prospect of more 2000 AD properties being optioned is perhaps more likely, although with most of them being unknown and a bit weird, they're more of a risk than Dredd (except, perhaps, Sláine, although that would have to fight comparisons with Conan).
That's true of superhero films but not comic book films in general. Scott Pilgrim, The Walking Dead, Ghost World, American Splendor, Road to Perdition, 30 Days of Night and a few others have all benefitted quite a bit from film/TV adaptations. V For Vendetta and Watchmen too.
It's the Marvel/DC mainstream superheroes that can't seem to bring the film audiences to the source material. My opinion is because people aren't all that interested in reading superhero comics but are more than open to reading stuff like TWD and indie-type stuff. Also: Marvel/DC's insane continuity and multiple titles constantly rebooting/renumbering is just too confusing and bothersome. (Interestingly, Batman: Year One, TDKR and some other self-contained stories tend to sell quite well whenever a Batman film comes out!)
What I would like ...
More Dredd spin offs like cartoons between movies
Strontium Dog film
Slaine film
Dreddy hot toys
Olivias phone number.
Dredd HBO series would be a dream come true. Room to do one-offs and larger arcs... HBO seem pretty into their genre-specific shows these days, I don't think a cable channel has ever done any sci-fi yet.
Button Man would be great. Wagner said recently that Nicholas Winding-Refn would be an ideal choice (he's rumoured to be involved in some way); Wagner hadn't seen any of his films when that rumour came out so he's clearly checked him out since then and (rightfully) likes what he sees!
A good Strontium Dog film, please. For some reason I see that as the next logical choice if Dredd works out.
Pretty sure there's a Cú Chulainn film in production at the moment so that might make Sláine less (or more?) likely!
Nikolai Dante would also make a great trilogy/series.
Leviathan, Cradlegrave and Necronauts would all be lovely.
And of course a D.R. and Quinch cartoon :D
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 July, 2012, 11:49:48 PM
Im trying to fix an actor for sam slade at the moment, but am having difficulty.
No contest: Nathan Fillion. He has the same sort avuncular charm that would have made James Garner the perfect choice thirty years ago...
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: PreacherCain on 13 July, 2012, 05:21:57 AMLeviathan, Cradlegrave and Necronauts would all be lovely.Quote
Not sure Cradlegrave would work on film. The 'big reveal' which the whole thing really hinges on is just too predictable, particularly if you're read any of the kind of Ramsay Campbell stories on which it's evidently modeled.
Not sure why my response above appeared inside the quote, it was not intentional.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 July, 2012, 07:57:58 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 July, 2012, 11:49:48 PM
Im trying to fix an actor for sam slade at the moment, but am having difficulty.
No contest: Nathan Fillion. He has the same sort avuncular charm that would have made James Garner the perfect choice thirty years ago...
Cheers
Jim
Like I've mentioned before..Ted Danson was always Slade for me..he's cracking on abit now though which is a shame
Quote from: Beeks on 13 July, 2012, 09:18:29 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 July, 2012, 07:57:58 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 July, 2012, 11:49:48 PM
Im trying to fix an actor for sam slade at the moment, but am having difficulty.
No contest: Nathan Fillion. He has the same sort avuncular charm that would have made James Garner the perfect choice thirty years ago...
Cheers
Jim
Like I've mentioned before..Ted Danson was always Slade for me..he's cracking on abit now though which is a shame
Always thought he was drawn a bit like Harry Dean Stanton but of course he's knocking on a bit too.
Nathan Fillion would make a great Johnny Alpha, got the nose and the geek cred
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 July, 2012, 07:57:58 AMNo contest: Nathan Fillion. He has the same sort avuncular charm that would have made James Garner the perfect choice thirty years ago...
Good call, Jim. And good to see you around these parts again.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 13 July, 2012, 01:00:52 AM
I imagine even a successful Dredd film will make little difference to 2000 AD. Bear in mind that blockbuster success stories barely impact on comic-book sales, so even a surprise hit in Dredd probably won't see 2000 AD's circulation soar. The prospect of more 2000 AD properties being optioned is perhaps more likely, although with most of them being unknown and a bit weird, they're more of a risk than Dredd (except, perhaps, Sláine, although that would have to fight comparisons with Conan).
This.
Tell that to Walking Dead
Quote from: James Stacey on 13 July, 2012, 10:14:01 AM
Tell that to Walking Dead
I love the walking Dead comics but after seeing all the issue 100 variant covers and the chromium cover for £7.50 I've lost some respect for it.
Quote from: PreacherCain on 13 July, 2012, 02:37:56 AMThat's true of superhero films but not comic book films in general. Scott Pilgrim, The Walking Dead, Ghost World, American Splendor, Road to Perdition, 30 Days of Night and a few others have all benefitted quite a bit from film/TV adaptations. V For Vendetta and Watchmen too.
Really? I was under the impression finite volumes benefitted from a short-term marketing-oriented sales burst, but that was it, and long-running series barely got tickled. The Hellboy movies were both pretty good, for example, but barely boosted Hellboy comic sales. Note that I'd love it of 2000 AD managed to get a few thousand extra subscribers out of the Dredd film, but I wonder how likely that is. Regarding Walking Dead, which two people have now mentioned, are there records online of bumps in sales?
I dunno if there is a bump in sales for WD but having only barely registered it before the tv series you see it on sale EVERYWHERE now. It's always on prominent display in Waterstones, HMV and WHSmiths
I could see a bump for the case files, but just not sure if the anthology format is too much of a speedbump for new readers with regards to long running series, and jumping on points.
A page that new readers could be directed to for recommended collections, and particularly the best order on the official site, rather than just threads wouldn't be a bad idea.
I think that Dredd might bring more than a few 2000AD lapsed readers back into the fold, and trades and whatnot will surely get a bump on the back of all the buzz going around. If nothing else, the film'll put 2000AD back on people's radars and hopefully lead a few curious souls, who don't just download everything, to seek out some of the source material.
as I said on the other thread I know of at least one person who has never read Dredd who has asked about and brought case files directly off the back of yesterdays positive buzz.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 13 July, 2012, 10:40:47 AMRegarding Walking Dead, which two people have now mentioned, are there records online of bumps in sales?
Bleeding Cool has regular articles on sales figures, and every one shows The Walking Dead GNs ascending to dominance on the back of the TV series.
Ready example, but there are plenty with actual figures if you dig: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/25/walking-dead-represents-half-of-diamond-bookstore-sales/
Given the simplicity of TWD as both a story and a publication, and the closeness of the series plot to the books, I wouldn't expect a similar overspill into the 35 years of Dredd bacl catalogue. But here's hoping.
For me the obvious 2000ad films are the ones based on more self contained stories, rather than the big, ongoing characters.
1. Flesh, Bk1 would make an amazing film, HBO TV series or computer game.
2. Shakara would make for a mental Sci-Fi film.
3. Cradlegrave could be a brilliant BBC horror.
4. Contradicting myself totally, Savage would be great as a high profile BBC show.
5. Killing Time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zombo.
Apply the same glorious, over-the-top violent action approach that people seem to love about Dredd - it'd work for me, anyway. Plenty of humour to balance the grisly action, and who wouldn't love Zombo in that codpiece?
Can I eat you please?
Quote from: Beeks on 13 July, 2012, 09:18:29 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 July, 2012, 07:57:58 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 July, 2012, 11:49:48 PM
Im trying to fix an actor for sam slade at the moment, but am having difficulty.
No contest: Nathan Fillion. He has the same sort avuncular charm that would have made James Garner the perfect choice thirty years ago...
Cheers
Jim
Like I've mentioned before..Ted Danson was always Slade for me..he's cracking on abit now though which is a shame
Correct.
Ian Gibson might as well have been drawing him into the strip, they looked so similar. I think it was just a coincidence and being as I was way too young at the time to remember the correct Dates, but I'm sure Robo-Hunter predated Cheers by a couple of years.
Rogue Trooper - original arc with bio chip buddies and traitor general.
That is all
I would love to see Zombo, I don't know if it could ever match Henry's visuals - but I think it would go down well.
I still say Djimon Hounsou for Rogue.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Beeks on 13 July, 2012, 09:18:29 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 July, 2012, 07:57:58 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 12 July, 2012, 11:49:48 PM
Im trying to fix an actor for sam slade at the moment, but am having difficulty.
No contest: Nathan Fillion. He has the same sort avuncular charm that would have made James Garner the perfect choice thirty years ago...
Cheers
Jim
Like I've mentioned before..Ted Danson was always Slade for me..he's cracking on abit now though which is a shame
Correct.
Ian Gibson might as well have been drawing him into the strip, they looked so similar. I think it was just a coincidence and being as I was way too young at the time to remember the correct Dates, but I'm sure Robo-Hunter predated Cheers by a couple of years.
Nah, it's about right. I always felt the same way. To be honest, I always felt Slade should be animated. Gibson's designs are just so fucking beautiful and his style just lends itself to being animated. Go watch Robots and see what I mean. Imagine a Verdus just populated with that stuff. Tom Selleck can provide the voice.
Quote from: blackmocco on 13 July, 2012, 03:26:13 PM
To be honest, I always felt Slade should be animated. Gibson's designs are just so fucking beautiful and his style just lends itself to being animated.
I very much agree (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,23157.msg397679.html#msg397679).
Cheers
Jim
Walking Dead now accounts for 50% of Diamond Bookstore Sales...
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/25/walking-dead-represents-half-of-diamond-bookstore-sales/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/25/walking-dead-represents-half-of-diamond-bookstore-sales/)
It's an absolute monster in sales since the TV show started.
Apart from transferring 2000ad characters to the small or big screen I don't know how much could change, hopefully more readers, for the GN's if not 2000ad itself maybe?
I'd love loads of merchandising but I can't see it happening and 2000ad Dredd merchandise isn't the same as the movie Dredd is he (different badge for a start)
One point I'll make is that you can still buy 2000AD in newagents all over the UK and Ireland. It's not's just available exclusively in comic shops nor is it ridiculously expensive like a lot of US Big Two comics. I do think 2000AD could increase its audience in UK/Ireland through the film because it's more visible to the public.
I started reading 2000AD when I'd heard they were making a Judge Dredd film in '93 (or whenever it was announced, around prog 950 anyway) and saw JD on the cover in a newsagents. So, you know, it can work :P
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 02:43:35 PM
I still say Djimon Hounsou for Rogue.
Done.
Worlds first concept art right here...
Helmet's too big...
Quote from: Rex The Runt on 13 July, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Rogue Trooper - original arc with bio chip buddies and traitor general.
That is all
THIS.
A futuristic cross between the first 20 minutes of Saving Private Ryan/Black Hawk Down and Bourne.Please no Sam Worthington though.
Quote from: Goaty on 13 July, 2012, 09:18:28 PM
Quote from: Rex The Runt on 13 July, 2012, 09:17:20 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 02:43:35 PM
I still say Djimon Hounsou for Rogue.
Done.
Worlds first concept art right here...
Horrible, burn it!
I beg to differ. Nicely done in my opinion.
Much better than Worthington.
48 years old now though,sequels and all that.
Quote from: PreacherCain on 13 July, 2012, 06:56:30 PM
One point I'll make is that you can still buy 2000AD in newagents all over the UK and Ireland. It's not's just available exclusively in comic shops nor is it ridiculously expensive like a lot of US Big Two comics. I do think 2000AD could increase its audience in UK/Ireland through the film because it's more visible to the public.
I started reading 2000AD when I'd heard they were making a Judge Dredd film in '93 (or whenever it was announced, around prog 950 anyway) and saw JD on the cover in a newsagents. So, you know, it can work :P
Unfortunately 2000ad is next to impossible to find on a shelf here in the US and when you do find it, it's four years out of date and $10 a copy.
Ebay,saves me getting off my arse.
Digital versions help for those people interested in such stuff
Does nobody want ABC Warriors in a cinema near them, this summer? Or next summer? or whenever?
Just don;t let Michael bay near it - [shudder].
Can we change the name of this thread. It's misleading.
When I hear people, (who have seen it ), say things like:"Forget about the Stallone film" I can only conclude that Dredd already has succeeded, artistically at least.
There was a Stallone film?
Roger's Mom will have to start taking party bookings.
Quote from: HdE on 16 July, 2012, 09:47:53 AM
Does nobody want ABC Warriors in a cinema near them, this summer? Or next summer? or whenever?
Just don;t let Michael bay near it - [shudder].
yes yes yes.
A while ago my friends and I were dream casting voice actors for the warriors. Forgotten most of them now but Vin Diesel voicing Joe Pineapples always stuck in my head. Maybe Alan Rickman for Deadlock?
If we're talking mega budgets then I'd like to see Nemesis. Otherwise I look forward to Zack Snyder's slo mo ridden Rogue Trooper.
Quote from: blackmocco on 14 July, 2012, 03:05:35 PMUnfortunately 2000ad is next to impossible to find on a shelf here in the US and when you do find it, it's four years out of date and $10 a copy.
Besides WHSmiths and comic shops I don't see it over here either (UK). There's lots of Marvel/DC stuff but even those look like watered down kiddy versions.
My local Smiths doesn't stock it,small branch though in a small town,but still :(
Mind you, that was years back. They've probably purged 2000AD from the shelves along with their DVD and music section on the next floor. I felt kinda silly asking where they moved the DVDs and being told that floor was closed off five years ago.
If DREDD is successful I hope it is used as a platform to launch other titles, specifically a PG-13 film or two, 2000AD doesn't need more adults coming from hard R movies, it needs more kids.
When I was growing up in the 80s pretty much all the kids I hung out with knew of 2000AD, I've worked with kids a lot and I don't remember a single one knowing of Dredd beyond the 95 movie, a good PG-13 could change that.
(My preference would be Sam Raimi to do Robo-Hunter, with Bruce "the chin" Campbell in the main role! haha!)
But seriously, Robo-Hunter and Ro-Busters are really good products that could bring many young people to 2000AD (and not forgetting merchandising!!!). These characters and worlds are far superior to films like Transformers.
And if they got a hit with something like Ro-Busters... ABC Warriors for a sequel?
I like the idea of a sam raimi directed, bruce campbell starring robo hunter movie VERY MUCH INDEED!
SBT
Yes that's a very good idea, in fact that's perfect, now somebody get the ball rolling on that one.
Arg. I didn't realise ASDA have been selling 2000AD all this time. It's been hidden right at the end on the back shelf. At least I know I can get it locally though.
And its ASDA's for me every week. If it wasnt for them, i'd be fooked. Nowhere else seems to carry it.
Quote from: Judge Jack on 25 July, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
And its ASDA's for me every week. If it wasnt for them, i'd be fooked. Nowhere else seems to carry it.
I think my local Asda has only just started stocking
2000ad. Carlos's Durham Red cover was the first prog I'd seen in my wee toon for around fifteen years, and a good number of issues too- even if they were nestling in-between the computer game and fishing magazines. I'd assumed this was a result of some effort to capitalise on the release of the Dredd film.
I'd probably have given the odd issue or two a try during my last few years' absence if I'd been able to pick them up locally.
I've picked them up at random while comic trolling but I'd like to know when the current story is over so I don't jump in halfway through it.
Quote from: Stan on 26 July, 2012, 06:47:56 PM
I've picked them up at random while comic trolling but I'd like to know when the current story is over so I don't jump in halfway through it.
Me too,also this 'Day of Chaos' story sounds great but I want to read it all rather than start half way/near the end.
Case files need to hurry up.
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 26 July, 2012, 07:17:10 PM
Quote from: Stan on 26 July, 2012, 06:47:56 PM
I've picked them up at random while comic trolling but I'd like to know when the current story is over so I don't jump in halfway through it.
Me too,also this 'Day of Chaos' story sounds great but I want to read it all rather than start half way/near the end.
Case files need to hurry up.
I think they're only publishing two case files a year now which is a shame. Would be nice if they upped it to three, if only so we could get through the rather 'meh' middle period we're stuck in at the moment... though I'm personally enjoying them more than I thought, possibly due to the added nostalgia thrill factor as I started reading 2000AD around that time!
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 26 July, 2012, 07:17:10 PM
Quote from: Stan on 26 July, 2012, 06:47:56 PM
I've picked them up at random while comic trolling but I'd like to know when the current story is over so I don't jump in halfway through it.
Me too,also this 'Day of Chaos' story sounds great but I want to read it all rather than start half way/near the end.
Case files need to hurry up.
Yeah, I don't think I can wait for the Case Files for that one. I've only just bought #2! It's nice that I now have two copies of Cursed Earth and Day The Law Died though.
Read it last week.I'm now approaching Judge Deaths first appearance.
Quote from: TordelBack on 13 July, 2012, 11:41:15 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 13 July, 2012, 10:40:47 AMRegarding Walking Dead, which two people have now mentioned, are there records online of bumps in sales?
Bleeding Cool has regular articles on sales figures, and every one shows The Walking Dead GNs ascending to dominance on the back of the TV series.
Ready example, but there are plenty with actual figures if you dig: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/06/25/walking-dead-represents-half-of-diamond-bookstore-sales/
Given the simplicity of TWD as both a story and a publication, and the closeness of the series plot to the books, I wouldn't expect a similar overspill into the 35 years of Dredd bacl catalogue. But here's hoping.
Anyone wanting evidence for how films boost sales need only look back through the NYT's Graphic Book's sales list:
http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/paperback-graphic-books/list.html
TWD now lives in there (a good argument for a Game of Thrones-style Dante adaptation) and I see Miller's TDKR is in there, despite no obvious links to the film. Going back through the records you can tell which comic based film was out at the time - Watchmen (which started selling strongly from the time the film was announced until quite recently, DC printed a million copies and can't have many left over), Kick Ass and Scott Pilgrim charted strongly at the time (as did vaguely related books, like Batman vs Bane and Marvel's John Carter: The World of Mars have done nicely by association).
It is nice to see some titles get there on their own merit, and especially nice to see Tales of Nu-Earth, Volume 1 make the top ten:
http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2012-06-17/paperback-graphic-books/list.html
And Alan Moore's Future Shocks:
http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2012-01-01/paperback-graphic-books/list.html
So while there is no question that a film release (or TV show, although that is rarer) will result in strong boosts to sales, I agree with TB, it might be that, with no single book obviously tied into the film, there is no Case Files charting there but I wouldn't be surprised, especially if there is some publicity in comic book stores and book stores. My money is on Case Files 3, 4 and 5 doing well with good advice, which should translate to better long term sales. Mega-City Masters might also do OK, as might Origins.
Hopefully retailers in the US will know the best books to recommend. Case Files 5 and America are probably the two most immediate recommendations most people would make.