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: Phoenix comic
: AlexF 14 April, 2011, 01:43:30 PM
Any of you writer/aritst types seen this ad?
http://www.thephoenixcomic.co.uk/?page_id=6 (http://www.thephoenixcomic.co.uk/?page_id=6)

One day someone will make a comic fro 8-12 year olds work, and maybe it'll be these guys.
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: Richmond Clements 14 April, 2011, 02:07:20 PM
Another new comic? Good news!

No information about rights etc in the submissions though- or indeed if it will be paid and how much!

I've got an idea and need an artist, BTW...
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: pauljholden 14 April, 2011, 02:18:35 PM
Isn't the Phoenix rising out of the ashes of the DFC? [edited to add: yes it is]
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: Richmond Clements 14 April, 2011, 02:24:40 PM
Isn't the Phoenix rising out of the ashes of the DFC? [edited to add: yes it is]

Yup! I just read that on their blog!
Good news all round then.

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: CrazyFoxMachine 15 April, 2011, 12:15:02 AM
I'll do some drawing - if anyone's up for it. ...If only Crabcake could be adapted for children...
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: Emperor 26 May, 2011, 04:25:28 PM
Submission guidelines:

http://downthetubescomics.blogspot.com/2011/05/phoenix-comic-post-submission.html
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: locustsofdeath! 26 May, 2011, 08:41:16 PM
I'll do some drawing - if anyone's up for it. ...If only Crabcake could be adapted for children...

I keep throwing hints your way, but I fear you have me on ignore  ;).
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: Professor Bear 07 February, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
Rise, necrothread: RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!

Been buying this title for a while now and as it enters its second year of publication I have to say I am disappointed there's not much love here on the board for it.  Despite Strip having started first, as of tomorrow there will be 51 more issues of The Phoenix published than it's main non-Toothy rival, and that is damn good going for a book that has yet to resort to free cover-mounted toys (in my time reading, anyway) and regularly features short prose stories like it assumes kids can actually pay attention for more than five seconds to read something.
Instead of assuming children want to drink cheap store-brand energy drinks while texting on their phones and calling a complete stranger a racially insensitive and/or sexually inappropriate name on Call Of Duty while looking at violent animated Japanese pornography on their computers because kids don't read as that's what nerds do and kids want to beat up nerds and not be one themselves, The Phoenix seems to assume it lives in some strange parallel reality where comics are fun and appropriate for all ages without being oppressively puritanical or talking down to their audience - Star Cat is ostensibly a child's strip, for instance, yet featured a multi-part homage to John Carpenter's The Thing that was actually quite amusing.  Some rough edges, certainly, like the odd bit of overly-familiar material like "Troy Trailblazer" being what looks like some sort of fanart mash-up of Major Kusunagi, Johnny Quest and Henry McCoy set in Buzz Lightyear continuity, but overall it's a solid weekly anthology of creator-owned adventure and comedy strips of a very European flavor and well worth your three bucks.

So BUMP.
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: maryanddavid 07 February, 2013, 07:18:59 PM
I got the first few issues of this ans I was much immpressed, but I missed a few issues and they didnt have back issue at the time and it kindof fell by the wayside.
 If anyone has back issues Im interested, Brendan has nothing to read since the Dandy went.
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: maryanddavid 01 September, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
Still looking to get back issues of this, if anyone has any to sell PM me, Cheers!
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: Dandontdare 21 July, 2014, 02:27:33 PM
Necropost again!

There's a feature and extracts in the Guardian's G2 section today - describes it as heralding "a new golden age of weekly children's comics"

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/20/-sp-phoenix-kids-comic-girls-boys-corpse-talk-tamsin-deep-children (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/20/-sp-phoenix-kids-comic-girls-boys-corpse-talk-tamsin-deep-children)
http://www.theguardian.com/books/gallery/2014/jul/20/-sp-the-phoenix-comic-in-pictures (http://www.theguardian.com/books/gallery/2014/jul/20/-sp-the-phoenix-comic-in-pictures)
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: Colin Zeal 22 August, 2014, 01:54:21 PM
For those of you reading the Phoenix, what age group is it suitable for? I'm thinking of getting a sub for my six-year old nephew and wondering if it would be a good idea.
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: Hawkmumbler 22 August, 2014, 02:01:18 PM
Pretty suitable for all ages. Hell, i'm seriously enjoying Pirates of Pangea!
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: Banners 22 August, 2014, 02:05:28 PM
You know the Prog has a special offer on at the mo, right?
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: Colin Zeal 22 August, 2014, 02:24:39 PM
Cheers for the swift replies.

It was the add on the back of this week's prog that got me thinking about it.
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: Colin YNWA 17 February, 2018, 09:15:10 AM
NECRO!

Anyway so what. I've been thinking about this for a while and finally bite the bullet and get the kids a subscription to The Phoenix and my gosh what a boon it is.

Only three issues into the sub and the kids are fighting over who gets to open it. I have to read it too them (no chore!) to stop the arguments on who gets to read it first.

Bloody wish Rebellion had the resource / whatever to get a nursey slopes version of 2000ad as this is great, my kids are so into a weekly dose of comics after only 3 weeks.

Oh and its a great comic too!
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: Professor Bear 17 February, 2018, 11:36:30 AM
Still going and will soon hit issue 320.  Not bad at all for a title aimed at kids who don't read - because vidya games and phones - and which has a subscription-based distribution model.  It also has those big and square-ish pages old progs used to have before they changed size to accommodate the US trade format, and the dimensions really helps the occasional double page spread come to life.
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: IndigoPrime 17 February, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
Comics were never the problem. Bonkers business models were. On that scale, the high street is broadly broken (mags for kids mostly being tat and activity pages that can be endlessly recycled). On that basis alone, it’s great The Phoenix is doing well. As for Rebellion, it would be a colossal punt to enter that market, especially on the newsstands.
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: mrstu 16 April, 2018, 08:36:26 PM
Its a great comic, the only bad thing about it is that it makes me wish there was more comics like this on the shelves.
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: sheridan 23 April, 2018, 01:38:34 AM
Comics were never the problem. Bonkers business models were. On that scale, the high street is broadly broken (mags for kids mostly being tat and activity pages that can be endlessly recycled). On that basis alone, it’s great The Phoenix is doing well. As for Rebellion, it would be a colossal punt to enter that market, especially on the newsstands.

Rebellion producing an all-ages comic?  They couldn't give it away ;-)
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: Colin YNWA 27 April, 2018, 08:55:35 PM
Well just bagged the first 100 (plus) issues from eBay in binders for less than a quid each including postage. I'M SO EXCITED...

... for the kids you understand, for the kids.
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: oshii 28 April, 2018, 11:02:36 PM
Bunny Vs Monkey is bloody brilliant
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: Colin YNWA 06 September, 2019, 06:53:22 AM
Well once again this thread rises like a phoen.... well you can work that one out for yorselves NECRO!

Anyway meant to pull this one back onto its feet last week to mention that The Phoenix hit issue 400! Thats right issue 400 and alas I've barely seen mention of it. I don't think the normally reliable John Freeman at Downthetubes mentioned it (may have mised it?), though to be fair it was in the week that Beano hit issue 4000 so ya know...

Anyway I just think its something we should celebrate and salute. The Phoenix is going from strength to strength storywise. My kids still love it - though the girl child now insists on taking it to her room to read rather then read it with her brother. The boy child is having a half birthday this weekend (don't ask) and almost all his presents are Phoenixy in some way or other AND going to a friends party he is, as he always does these days, taking on of the compendiums as a present.

The Phoenix Weekly Story Comic is 100% recommended to any folks with kids between 5-12 and those who don't to boot.
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: IndigoPrime 06 September, 2019, 11:41:34 AM
I’ve taken a punt on a test sub for mini-G, although she was nonplussed with the issue we bought a couple of months ago. She’s five; reading abilities are coming on fast. But it’s more complicated than kiddie picture books.

However, we found Bunny vs Monkey book one in the library, and that went down a storm. And then I had a chat with The Phoenix online about gender representation, and they roped in Jaime Smart. I was blown away by the professionalism and thoughtfulness of the replies. No excuses. No pushback. Just a recognition that early stories failed in that one key area, and a desire to offer more balance. Great to see, and made me want to continue.

(I’ve also been surprised by The Beano. The classic tales are rather dated, but some of the newer content like Betty and the Yeti hit the mark – and also avoid the problem with so much of the humour relentlessly relying on wordplay. Yes, we get it. You’re very clever with words. But that joke hammered home 50 times every issue becomes tiresome compared to Smart’s bonkers and breezy fun.)

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: Hawkmumbler 10 September, 2019, 12:30:28 PM
I really ought to pick up some of the collections of Phoenix material, any recommendations for myself and the Hawk chic's who haven't yet flown the nest?
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: Colin YNWA 10 September, 2019, 12:47:36 PM
Its a broad church. If you want out rageously funny then you can't go wrong with any of Jamie Smart's output. I personally think Lushkin is probably just about funnier than Bunny vs Monkey. Adventure then look no further than Pirates of Pangaea, why is there only one volume of this??? Though I'm also a fan of Troy Trailbrazier the latest story was fantastic.

A bit inbetween Mega Robo Bros is fantastic and possibly my favourite thing in the comic?

Corpse Talk is fun education in the Horrible Histories mode

Best answer though is go for The Phoenix Colassal Comics Collections - there two currently and these give a really good impression of the variety of strips AND you get Squid Bits which is just superb and also possibly my favourite thing in the comic.
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: Professor Bear 10 September, 2019, 07:07:42 PM
Star Cat and Useleus are superb, but appear about as often as Bigfoot sightings.
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: IndigoPrime 10 September, 2019, 08:05:59 PM
My 5yo is now infatuated with Bunny vs Monkey to the point it has a pet name “BUNNY VS MONKS”, which is shouted at an impossibly loud volume. The rest of The Phoenix doesn’t go down as well as The Beano, but, well, she’s young. I’m still tempted to keep the sub going, depending on the terms of the direct debit.

EDIT: It’s £9.99 monthly.
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: Colin YNWA 14 May, 2020, 06:03:57 PM
THURSDAY PHOENIX - I'll say that again in case you didn't hear my CAPS!!!

THURSDAY PHOENIX.

Yeah size 24 font AND Bold ya hear me now don't you.

I mean I was fully expecting the delievery to slip back not jump forward. Tharg you got competition for best run comic during madness that I can only assume was started by Looshkin.
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: IndigoPrime 14 May, 2020, 07:44:36 PM
Mini-IP’s previous one arrived this Tuesday — the first time Phoenix had ever been that late. But they said recently they’ve started sending them out two days early, to try and get more of them to arrive in time, so we also got ours today. Looks like they’ve cut back a little on comic strip content (at least this issue), but it’s still a really solid mag. Frankly, anyone that adapts The Call of Cthulhu for kids — and puts Lovecraftian horror on the cover is OK by me.
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: Colin YNWA 14 May, 2020, 07:52:49 PM
Looks like they’ve cut back a little on comic strip content (at least this issue), but it’s still a really solid mag. Frankly, anyone that adapts The Call of Cthulhu for kids — and puts Lovecraftian horror on the cover is OK by me.

There's been interesting changes to how they are producing story of late. The one I like least is they've started to recycle interior art for the covers, which is a bit disappointing - but I guess they have to make savings. The stories are getting longer, but with bigger panels like they are now designed more for the reduced trade size.

I'm glad the current Looshkin run is back to the typical wonderfully dense format, rather than the wider more spacious tractor story a wee while ago.

I'm cool with all that if it helps them stick around, just a shame they have to (assuming they do?)
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: IndigoPrime 14 May, 2020, 08:08:47 PM
I’ve noticed a lot of those ‘flow chart’ games creeping in. They’re… not great. The spreads of informative and educational stuff (Dinos! Rockets!) were much better — but probably quite expensive. But, yeah, whatever’s needed to keep them going, really. (It’d be interesting to know how much they’ve been affected — probably less than many, given the subs-first approach of that publication.)
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: Funt Solo 14 May, 2020, 08:14:58 PM
Mini-Solo really enjoys the flow charts. I've not been paying much attention to the content - although I'm roped in often to do Gorebrah read-alouds.
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: Colin YNWA 14 May, 2020, 08:16:55 PM
I still get to read it aloud to the boy. The girl reads it herself still. One of the great joys of parenthood. My Gorebah voice is a kinda faux Arnie Conan.
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: IndigoPrime 14 May, 2020, 08:39:23 PM
roped in
I guess that at least means you don’t have to sneak a read yourself later.
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: pauljholden 14 May, 2020, 08:42:41 PM
We just got a delivery of about four issues, all held at the post office because here (Belfast) they're prioritising parcel delivery over letters. No the fault of the Phoenix, but it sure is annoying.
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: Colin YNWA 20 May, 2020, 04:12:25 PM
Bloody hell - we now have Wednesday Phoenix - this is getting silly!
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: IndigoPrime 20 May, 2020, 08:08:16 PM
Not here! But then I’m not too fussed — and mini-G was into reading a million Beanos today instead anyway.

My favourite bit about The Phoenix of late: when mini-G was deep in reading, and she looked up and told me she was just “re-reading the one about that writer”. So, yeah, the 5yo was checking out a comic strip about Tolstoy. In the issue this week, they’re doing War and Peace in Corpse Talk. Don’t ever change, Phoenix.
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: Colin YNWA 20 May, 2020, 08:41:27 PM
Yeah it might all be a bit middle class but its still a wonder!
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: Colin YNWA 25 June, 2020, 05:15:33 PM
GODDAMNIT!

I'm about 60 issues off getting the boy a complete set... yes, yes it is for the boy not me - and I finally broken and decided to go for a bundle I'd seen on eBay which would have completed the set but left me with a LOAD of duplicate. I finally buckled thinking I'd be able to sell the majority of the dups at a decent price and hassle aside make my money back... probably.

Contact the seller to check postage (as per the listing as it was a BIG lot) and their son - who she was selling them for, has decided to keep them now and she's withdrawn the lot.

Now given it took me about 4 days to break and decide to go for this you might thing it was almost a relief BUT now having been in touching distance of a complete set I find I'm gutted... gutted... the quest goes on...
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: IndigoPrime 25 June, 2020, 07:40:44 PM
Argh @ eBayer. We’re looking at mini-IP’s shelves right now and thinking “yikes” about the future of weekly Beano and Phoenix. But she reads them and re-reads them, and so that’s good. She’s currently grumbling about the lack of Squid Bits in the comic, mind, and Legacy (which she used to skip but now at nearly 6 has decided she likes). I barely get a look in these days, mind.
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: Colin YNWA 25 June, 2020, 07:57:19 PM
Yeah the boy misses Squid Bits and wants it back. He's still Jamie Smart obsessed, but getting really into Trailblazers, which is good as I see that as my gateway drug to Star Wars comics and then...

He's 8 now.
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: Colin YNWA 04 July, 2020, 05:18:44 PM
Anyone got the latest Phoenix?Jamie Smarts' second strip in it Flember (well I think its called Dev something or other but its based on the book Flember - anyway I'm way off track) was colours by one Darren Stephens and judging by their very vibrant tones I'm pretty damned sure its Darren from this here Board.

If so AMAZING job Darren, working with Jamie Smart must be a massive thrill!
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: Dark Jimbo 04 July, 2020, 06:00:40 PM
Anyone got the latest Phoenix?Jamie Smarts' second strip in it Flember (well I think its called Dev something or other but its based on the book Flember - anyway I'm way off track) was colours by one Darren Stephens and judging by their very vibrant tones I'm pretty damned sure its Darren from this here Board.

It is!
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: Colin YNWA 04 July, 2020, 06:24:04 PM
Cool to have it confirmed. Well done him!
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: Darren Stephens 05 July, 2020, 09:21:23 AM
Anyone got the latest Phoenix?Jamie Smarts' second strip in it Flember (well I think its called Dev something or other but its based on the book Flember - anyway I'm way off track) was colours by one Darren Stephens and judging by their very vibrant tones I'm pretty damned sure its Darren from this here Board.

If so AMAZING job Darren, working with Jamie Smart must be a massive thrill!


Yes, thank you so much Colin! This is the second series of 'Dev' I've been lucky enough to colour. ( I'm a huge fan of Jamies, so it is indeed a MASSIVE buzz to work with him!)
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: Colin YNWA 05 July, 2020, 09:32:00 AM
Anyone got the latest Phoenix?Jamie Smarts' second strip in it Flember (well I think its called Dev something or other but its based on the book Flember - anyway I'm way off track) was colours by one Darren Stephens and judging by their very vibrant tones I'm pretty damned sure its Darren from this here Board.

If so AMAZING job Darren, working with Jamie Smart must be a massive thrill!


Yes, thank you so much Colin! This is the second series of 'Dev' I've been lucky enough to colour. ( I'm a huge fan of Jamies, so it is indeed a MASSIVE buzz to work with him!)

Oh wow sorry I missed it the first time. I read the comic with the boy and always read the creators names and for some reason must have not clicked when the first 'Dev' stories were in last year (I think it was it was just as Flember came out as I recall). I do wonder if it clicked this time as for some reason the colours just popped and when I checked the name it made sense given your art we've seen here.

Anyway more importantly fantastic stuff and long may you continue to work with Jamie.
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: Darren Stephens 05 July, 2020, 09:58:13 AM
Thanks again! I think the colours in this series are more 'me', if that makes sense? Take care.
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: Colin YNWA 05 July, 2020, 10:04:17 AM
Thanks again! I think the colours in this series are more 'me', if that makes sense? Take care.

Its definately does and that entire explains the penny dropping.
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: broodblik 30 July, 2021, 11:34:09 AM
I see that Phoenix now has joined the 500 club.

2000AD extended congratulations as well:

Having a wraparound cover for your 500th issue cover gets you into a select club! Congratulations on the milestone,
@phoenixcomicuk
!!


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7h5n1xWUAQIsyi?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
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: Colin YNWA 30 July, 2021, 11:45:19 AM
We're just heading home after a brief holiday and I think the boy child is as excited about this being there when we land than seeing the cat again.
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: IndigoPrime 30 July, 2021, 11:49:35 AM
The child was very excited about this one—Bunny vs Monkey has returned!
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: Colin YNWA 30 July, 2021, 11:51:10 AM
The child was very excited about this one—Bunny vs Monkey has returned!

Yeah good as Mega-lo-maniacs has been nothing says Jamie Smart like Bunny vs. Monkey.
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: Darren Stephens 30 July, 2021, 07:01:26 PM
500 issues is AMAZING!
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: broodblik 02 August, 2021, 11:29:52 AM
Follow the link to see the whole 500th issue online:

https://www.thephoenixcomic.co.uk/Page/Index/500 (https://www.thephoenixcomic.co.uk/Page/Index/500)
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: Barrington Boots 02 August, 2021, 04:29:35 PM
I read the 500th issue at the weekend and really enjoyed it, and I'm 45. It's almost worth having a child so I could get this every week.

Mostly unrelated fact: Neill Cameron (Pirates of Pangaea, Robo-Bros) drew my wedding tattoo.
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: IndigoPrime 02 August, 2021, 04:32:28 PM
Plenty of grown-ups read comics for kids. But good to know you enjoyed it. I will say that if you liked Bunny vs Monkey, the new pocket books are worth picking up. Looshkin is soon being redone in the same format too. (I figure anarchic and silly comedy strips are good for any age!)

Funny also to go back through this thread and see my non-committal stance on the initial subscription. I can’t imagine cutting it now. Mini-IP would go nuts. She bloody loves the comic (although I think still loves the Beano a little bit more).
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: Colin YNWA 02 August, 2021, 04:40:04 PM
Yeah I have to say even when the Boy Child goes the way of the Girl Child and decides he's too 'grown-up' for the Phoenix I strongly suspect I'll carry on with it. Its just good craft plain and simple and therefore the real definition of All Ages.

Good comics is good comics.
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: Colin YNWA 02 August, 2021, 08:04:20 PM
Just finished reading issue 500 with the boy (he reads it himself first then we read it together) and while its good - love the cover - if you enjoyed that one DEFO check out another issue or two I would say that one wasn't as good as a 'typical' issue of late.
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: Colin YNWA 22 December, 2021, 09:31:20 AM
Bloody hell how good has the latest run of Mega Robo Bros been and man that ending. Just FANTASTIC!
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: Colin YNWA 16 May, 2022, 06:44:07 AM
Well this is interesting YouTube launched a load of 'YouTube originals' on Friday (13th May) and one of them was apparently The Phoenix's own Corpse Talk

https://youtu.be/rqZQ2wMPtO0 (https://youtu.be/rqZQ2wMPtO0)

There are a number of the videos up already - though I had to do a specific seearch to find them. Well done to Adam and Lisa Murphy!

As learnt from Downthetubes

https://downthetubes.net/corpse-talk-joins-the-youtube-originals-animated-line-up-this-month/?fbclid=IwAR38dyqj8FYQBJKN_R_w5LpE5umCCBVyDt3UCGd3kafp5KY3HHPaL6bcC9c (https://downthetubes.net/corpse-talk-joins-the-youtube-originals-animated-line-up-this-month/?fbclid=IwAR38dyqj8FYQBJKN_R_w5LpE5umCCBVyDt3UCGd3kafp5KY3HHPaL6bcC9c)
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: IndigoPrime 16 May, 2022, 08:30:55 AM
The child’s a massive Horrible Histories fan and loves Corpse Talk, so this seems like a cert to get her watching something new. I barely see the comic these days, alas. Very occasionally, I get to flick through a new issue if it’s lurking and sneak a read of the latest slice of Jamie Smart madness.

Speaking of Jamie Smart, if you have kids and an hour of spare time on the 29th, this: https://www.storymuseum.org.uk/whats-on/jamie-smart-live-stream-draw-along
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: CalHab 16 May, 2022, 11:10:17 AM
Great news. My daughter loves their Lost Tales book and, in fact, was reading it this morning when she should have been getting ready for school.
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: CalHab 17 May, 2022, 01:28:08 PM
We watched the first two of those Corpse Talk shorts last night (Cleopatra and Mozart). They went down very well! Good quality stuff.
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: Colin YNWA 19 May, 2022, 09:49:51 PM
The child’s a massive Horrible Histories fan and loves Corpse Talk, so this seems like a cert to get her watching something new. I barely see the comic these days, alas. Very occasionally, I get to flick through a new issue if it’s lurking and sneak a read of the latest slice of Jamie Smart madness.

Speaking of Jamie Smart, if you have kids and an hour of spare time on the 29th, this: https://www.storymuseum.org.uk/whats-on/jamie-smart-live-stream-draw-along

Damn the boy is has a football game at 11 we won't be able watch.