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Title: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Buttonman on 21 May, 2016, 02:38:45 PM
Lovely Mark Harrison 'Grey Area' cover.

Read the Dredd - not very keen on the Texan's assessment of British foreign policy. I love my Michael Carroll but this had an unpleasant soapbox feel to it. This is 2000ad not the Bray Bugle!
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 21 May, 2016, 03:08:09 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r182/Caliban_photos/785a42315d9bfad6a02df07caca8c789_zps8jif1wqd.jpg)
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: flip-r mk2 on 21 May, 2016, 03:59:25 PM
Bugger, down at my daughter's in West Sussex and my prog's sitting 448 miles away up the road in Bonnybridge :(

filippo
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: jannerboyuk on 21 May, 2016, 04:11:46 PM
No delivery 'ere in Cymru :( Saturday is ruined, RUINED!
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: A.Cow on 21 May, 2016, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: eamonn1961 on 21 May, 2016, 03:08:09 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r182/Caliban_photos/785a42315d9bfad6a02df07caca8c789_zps8jif1wqd.jpg)

Nice to see Brad Pitt on the cover of the Galaxy's Greatest.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Colin YNWA on 21 May, 2016, 09:17:21 PM
The Progs return to form is almost complete. There are two sub-par (par being of course outstanding for 2000ad) thrills this week and they aren't bad. Slaine shows shows signs of returning to to life and the cliffhanger has promise. I'm beginning to feel optimistic about this story after a couple of duff weeks. A solid one off this week being a Time Twister, solid in all departments but its being replaced by Black Shuck next week so fingers crossed there.

Elsewhere Dredd continues to be magnificent. Brink continues to be a wonderful change of pace. I'm a little said that Grey Area is nearing its conclusion, but you had to wonder where it could possible have gone after this story line and the end of the arc start with a lovely bit of implusible romantic fun amongst the burst into action thriller. A well balanced strip and happy to have it back and sad that its ending.

So yeah the week spots ain't that week and hopefully could be sorted for next time. The Prog might be back on the form it had a few weeks ago soon? Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Eamonn Clarke on 21 May, 2016, 09:58:14 PM
Love the cover but it does look like a bit like Brad asking about that box.

I love Joyce so I'm loving Dredd. Things still seem grim for MC1

I'm enjoying the story in Brink and the art in Slaine.

The Time Twister was ok but did feel like we've seen that twist a few times now.

Welcome return for Grey Area which sets up for death and romance.

Solid A- prog, very happy here.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Skullmo on 22 May, 2016, 11:08:53 AM
For me Dredd has now gone from- this looks interesting - to - this is irritating. Didn't like the stereotypical portrayals of Texans from someone trying to remove the Irish stereotypes as it felt cheap, the Texas cut idea seems forced and uncomfortable, didn't like the uk soapboxing already mentioned, and oh dredd is such a superhuman that he has been shot up and it alive. It started as an interesting idea but, for me, it's totally lost its way.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Skullmo on 22 May, 2016, 11:09:47 AM
Texas cit not cut 😢 Autocorrect strikes
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 22 May, 2016, 11:57:21 AM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 21 May, 2016, 09:17:21 PM
...its being replaced by Black Shuck next week so fingers crossed there.

Oh, please be joking. Just as I was about to end my prog hiatus as well...
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Colin YNWA on 22 May, 2016, 12:05:13 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 22 May, 2016, 11:57:21 AM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 21 May, 2016, 09:17:21 PM
...its being replaced by Black Shuck next week so fingers crossed there.

Oh, please be joking. Just as I was about to end my prog hiatus as well...

Well alas no. It was a decent thrill, didn't set the world alight but I'm happy to have it back, certainly as a replacement for both Survival Geeks and Tainted and I'm always happy to have The Mighty Yeowell in the Prog. I would admit for this to become a good thrill there's a little work to be done BUT it had a solid first story and there's bags of potential for it to grow into a great thrill.

So yeah, sorry, happy to have it back.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Jacqusie on 22 May, 2016, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: Skullmo on 22 May, 2016, 11:08:53 AM
For me Dredd has now gone from- this looks interesting - to - this is irritating...
... it's totally lost its way.

It certainly has. I know many like MC's Dredd, but I find it's credibility a little too far to swallow each week. I suppose I'm more of a fan of slow burners and this story seems to be shoe-horning in left, right & centre plot lines that just don't make for comfortable reading.

I was always wondering when Texas City may enter Dredd's world at some point, but this is jarring, the script is odd and I'm not quite sure how we got here from a few weeks ago arsing about in the cursed earth (with bonus new plotline & Major Easy dropped in too folks!). You watch, the lawlords will be next.

It's albout as subtle as a brick, the Tex Cheif Judge proposing a new road between the cities all of a sudden & Hershey agreeing to make it a fly-over? eh?

oh, and then there's Dredd - too many questions about that one, but we had a nice cover last week that didn't fit the story...

It's all getting a bit messy...
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: ZenArcade on 22 May, 2016, 02:50:56 PM
Politics is always messy I suppose.  Z
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Richard on 22 May, 2016, 05:29:24 PM
I thought the Time Twister was great, and both creators delivered to a high standard. I want to see more from them both.

I think the idea is that we're not supposed to like the Texas chief judge, so her little rant was probably meant to irritate us. When the bad guys voice their opinions, it's usually a mistake to assume that it's what the writer really believes.

And I don't share the view that there are too many plotlessness developing in this Dredd story. It's a more usual criticism to say that there isn't enough happening in a story, that the plot is too one-dimensional. Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 23 May, 2016, 03:12:50 PM
Cover:  Yeah, very nice, with a Brad Pitt cameo too...

Dredd: All going along ok, but as mentioned before, it needs to tie up it's loose ends and let us know what's going on soon.  I expect it will, and we'll see that some buggers in Brit and Tex Cities planned this all along.  Still can't work out why they risk keeping Dredd alive...they even point it out themselves!

Slaine:  It just gets duller by the week.

Brink: In contrast, seemed to be a little more accessible for some reason.  Still hate the art though.

Time Twister:  Nowt new, but very nicely done.

Grey Area: Love the art.  Will be interesting to see where it goes from here.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: jannerboyuk on 23 May, 2016, 07:46:50 PM
Cover: kinda nice, has grown on me. The colouring is subtle but beautiful. Nicely uncovered logo as well :)
Dredd: like a nice rant me, not sure why tex cit would be so villainous though. Nice hair
Slaine: stunning art, and something happens! They left the building! Oh...another are they doomed cliffhanger? Oh well
Brink: really growing on me, love the world and sense of momentous events to come.,
Time twister: was ok but felt a bit familiar
Grey area: doom doom doom!
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: A.Cow on 23 May, 2016, 11:58:19 PM
Quote from: Ghost MacRoth on 23 May, 2016, 03:12:50 PM
Brink: In contrast, seemed to be a little more accessible for some reason.  Still hate the art though.

I'm impressed we can even see the art, given the number of speech balloons this week.  It's practically a radio show.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Bolt-01 on 24 May, 2016, 12:20:30 PM
No one else gonna say congrats to Steve Austin on becoming a bona-fide droid?

He's worked his newly metal plated ass off to get to this point.

I'd love to see his work again soon!
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Steve Green on 24 May, 2016, 03:23:11 PM
Congratulations Steve and nice job!
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Ghost MacRoth on 24 May, 2016, 03:26:44 PM
Quote from: A.Cow on 23 May, 2016, 11:58:19 PM
I'm impressed we can even see the art, given the number of speech balloons this week.  It's practically a radio show.

Maybe that's what's selling it to me...cover that art up!  More balloons please! :p
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Woolly on 24 May, 2016, 06:00:45 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 24 May, 2016, 12:20:30 PM
No one else gonna say congrats to Steve Austin on becoming a bona-fide droid?

He's worked his newly metal plated ass off to get to this point.

I'd love to see his work again soon!

Heh, exactly why I just visited the board!
Now, his droid name - Aus-10 anyone?

Massive congratulations though, was a genuine thrill to see his work in the prog.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Darren Stephens on 24 May, 2016, 07:55:04 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 24 May, 2016, 12:20:30 PM
No one else gonna say congrats to Steve Austin on becoming a bona-fide droid?

He's worked his newly metal plated ass off to get to this point.

I'd love to see his work again soon!

Hell, yeh! Steves work is amazing. Love to see him get his artistic teeth into something a little more....Dreddful.  ;)

PS. I've not read the rest of the prog yet, only Steves bit!  :P
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: johnfreeman on 25 May, 2016, 11:31:17 AM
Quick chat with artist Steven Austin about his 2000AD debut: downthetubes.net/?p=31413
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Geoff on 25 May, 2016, 08:51:30 PM
Yes, nice work by the Aus-10 droid.

The Dredd strip's out of control - where's it all going to end...

Read the first 4 episodes of Brink back to back as I found it hard to remember what was happening week to week and I really enjoyed it. It's building a deep sense of emerging menace. The reveal can sometimes be a let down with this type of tale but we'll see.

Suggestion for the Slaine strip, maybe Ukko selling some tickets to the big fight, making snide comments and being clipped round the ear by Slaine might perk it up?

Good to see Grey Area back, especially the scantily clad alien lass!   
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 25 May, 2016, 09:39:51 PM
Quote from: Buttonman on 21 May, 2016, 02:38:45 PM
but this had an unpleasant soapbox feel to it.

Pat Mills disagrees with you...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 25 May, 2016, 10:13:14 PM
About Slaine....

Never liked the idea of the [spoiler] Non-Living -Things (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon_(Gnosticism)) (Where in that context they might also be benevolent Cythrons or what a lot people believe Angels to be.) being something they were never described as in the first place and what became in the Slaineverse doesn't impress me either.[/spoiler]

Still got nice art, but notice signs of either wear & tear on Slaine & Gort. They don't look so hot now (NO, not like that!). NO, they or just Slaine now look really withered, significantly older regardless of facial hair. Yeah, I know this may have something to so with his recent event taking more toll on him. He's still human, even if Warped (Like I said previously, may be the blessing of Danu is starting to fade on this one!) and this effect might be that devastating or the artist is caring even less each week and that's also starting to show. 

This also maybe hint that Slaine is not a Primordial like I suspected earlier. He's just completely Warped or he was.....
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 25 May, 2016, 10:21:08 PM
I didn't get the ending of the Time Twister. Can anyone explain it, please?
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 25 May, 2016, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Geoff on 25 May, 2016, 08:51:30 PM

Suggestion for the Slaine strip, maybe Ukko selling some tickets to the big fight, making snide comments and being clipped round the ear by Slaine might perk it up?


I must look back and find out what happened to him. Why does he keep getting separated from Slaine?

When did Slaine the Geas Cathbad placed on him?
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 26 May, 2016, 12:02:22 AM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 25 May, 2016, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Geoff on 25 May, 2016, 08:51:30 PM

Suggestion for the Slaine strip, maybe Ukko selling some tickets to the big fight, making snide comments and being clipped round the ear by Slaine might perk it up?


I must look back and find out what happened to him. Why does he keep getting separated from Slaine?

When did Slaine the Geas Cathbad placed on him?

That was lose the Geas placed on him by Cathbad.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Link Prime on 26 May, 2016, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Woolly on 24 May, 2016, 06:00:45 PM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 24 May, 2016, 12:20:30 PM
No one else gonna say congrats to Steve Austin on becoming a bona-fide droid?

He's worked his newly metal plated ass off to get to this point.

I'd love to see his work again soon!

Heh, exactly why I just visited the board!
Now, his droid name - Aus-10 anyone?

Massive congratulations though, was a genuine thrill to see his work in the prog.


Austin 3:16 says...I just Thrilled your ass.

Congrats Steven!
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: TordelBack on 26 May, 2016, 10:35:44 AM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 25 May, 2016, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Geoff on 25 May, 2016, 08:51:30 PM

Suggestion for the Slaine strip, maybe Ukko selling some tickets to the big fight, making snide comments and being clipped round the ear by Slaine might perk it up?


I must look back and find out what happened to him. Why does he keep getting separated from Slaine

Ukko owns a pub now.  The very one Slaine sets out from at the start of A Simple Killing. It's only been a few days.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 26 May, 2016, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 24 May, 2016, 12:20:30 PM
No one else gonna say congrats to Steve Austin on becoming a bona-fide droid?

He's worked his newly metal plated ass off to get to this point.

I'd love to see his work again soon!

Wasn't he the Bionic Man?
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: TordelBack on 26 May, 2016, 11:23:49 AM
So yeah, good Prog.

Great cover, can't go wrong with pants-free noseless alien babes really. Although once seen the Bradulliet can never be unseen.

Dredd continues to engage, can't see what the surprise is with Texas City being complete gits, they've been at best fairweather friends since day one. No help during the Apocalypse War or Necropolis etc etc. Be interesting to see Rico on the streets with his former Academy classmates though - pity he's not around.

Slaine was better again this week - gotta love those SBD half-dead.

Brink is still fascinating, slowly building a believable word and palpable sense of Lovecraftian dread. Great character work from INJC.

Time Twister
is good, solid story with terrific art.

Grey Area: I'd really like to see Our Heroes return to Earth and resume their duties after all this is resolved - I never really warmed to the series before the current arc, but I think I'd like another go.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 26 May, 2016, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: Tordelback on 26 May, 2016, 11:23:49 AM
So yeah, good Prog.

Great cover, can't go wrong with pants-free noseless alien babes really. Although once seen the Bradulliet can never be unseen.

Slaine was better again this week - gotta love those SBD half-dead.


I was ask about what's going on with the female's pants in background and couldn't even zoom in there....& agreed that Simon Davis does great Half-Dead which are not to be confused with zombies or Ray Harryhausen's animated skeletons, but kind a mixture of both.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 May, 2016, 12:07:27 PM
Quote from: Tordelback on 26 May, 2016, 10:35:44 AM
Ukko owns a pub now.  The very one Slaine sets out from at the start of A Simple Killing. It's only been a few days.

Unlike Dredd that progresses in real-time, the Millsverse works in it's own continuum where a single punch up can drag on and on for months. Wake me up when it's over.

I'm absolutely loving the current Dredd story and can't understand some of the criticism on here - it's gripping stuff! Can't wait for Hershey and Dredd to turn the tables on their "allies"

Brink and Grey Area are strips that don't blow me away, but I don't hate them. happy for them to be in the prog as they all have good points, but I wouldn't ever be likely to re-read them.

It's a bit perverse to complain that a time travel; story doesn't make a lot of sense, but this TimeTwister felt like a strip that had good intentions but didn't quite make it.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: TordelBack on 26 May, 2016, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 26 May, 2016, 12:07:27 PM
It's a bit perverse to complain that a time travel; story doesn't make a lot of sense, but this TimeTwister felt like a strip that had good intentions but didn't quite make it.

Is it not pretty straightforward (for these sorts of tales)?  Mobster on the lamb escapes into the past, gang bosses arrange all kind of Terminator-style hits which cancel each other out, mobster is blamed for massive violence and exiled back to where/when he came from, where gang bosses are waiting for him, suggesting that this may have been their plan all along.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: TordelBack on 26 May, 2016, 12:47:00 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 26 May, 2016, 11:50:20 AM


I was ask about what's going on with the female's pants in background and couldn't even zoom in there...

Officer Resting Bitch Face has never worn anything on her lower half throughout the entire story, except for a tattoo and two convenient dangly loo-chain thingies. It's quite a good running gag.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Dandontdare on 26 May, 2016, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: Tordelback on 26 May, 2016, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 26 May, 2016, 12:07:27 PM
It's a bit perverse to complain that a time travel; story doesn't make a lot of sense, but this TimeTwister felt like a strip that had good intentions but didn't quite make it.

Is it not pretty straightforward (for these sorts of tales)?  Mobster on the lamb escapes into the past, gang bosses arrange all kind of Terminator-style hits which cancel each other out, mobster is blamed for massive violence and exiled back to where/when he came from, where gang bosses are waiting for him, suggesting that this may have been their plan all along.

ah, that was the bit I didn't get
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Verence on 26 May, 2016, 03:21:49 PM
Presumably the guy that Hershey and the Texas City Chief Judge were talking to was the Chief Judge of Brit-Cit?
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 26 May, 2016, 07:59:26 PM
Quote from: Tordelback on 26 May, 2016, 12:47:00 PM
Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 26 May, 2016, 11:50:20 AM


I was ask about what's going on with the female's pants in background and couldn't even zoom in there...

Officer Resting Bitch Face has never worn anything on her lower half throughout the entire story, except for a tattoo and two convenient dangly loo-chain thingies. It's quite a good running gag.

Reminds me of old Christos Achilleos. painting of Bodicca just wearing a metal chest piece with a fur cloak & a large round shield. With nothing else down below, except for that shield covering her lower legs. This featured on the cover of Heavy Metal magazine I own.

Since I first saw that picture, he's released the painting, adding this frilly white skirt, still very short. Incidently, she was covering herself with he hands that the top of the shield, but not by much and that kind  gives me some idea about a different reality of fashion that doesn't give a fuck about my reality & I like that!

I said something about this in the off topic section a few months ago.
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: DrJomster on 26 May, 2016, 10:44:01 PM
Great prog!

Special shout outs for the Time Twister, PJ's art and basically everything else too.

Good work droids!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Prog 1982 : The World's End
Post by: Steven Austin on 05 June, 2016, 10:28:56 PM
Bit of a delayed response so apologies - for some reason I couldn't post on this thread but I've been informed that I now can AND that I have my new creator stars!! We'll see once I post this.

I Just wanted to thank you all for the kind words on my debut in the prog with Timeless Assassin and hope I get the opportunity to bring you more.

Cheers!! :)