RIPs

[Barrington Boots]

David Amess was the MP from my parents neck of the woods. I didn't see eye to eye with him on many subjects but he was passionate about his views and the work he did for the community. Whatever your political views, this is awful.

[milstar]

Shame about David. He was one of the better assets of Conservative party and great animal lover. May his assailant rot in jail.

[IAMTHESYSTEM]

The composer of Grange Hill, and other works, Alan Hawkshaw, has died.
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-10-17/alan-hawkshaw-composer-of-countdown-and-grange-hill-theme-tunes-dies-aged-84?fbclid=IwAR1dstsIUpR5hsOV-8FfRvMJL7sKIuGk4KJ9XViMvwYRCbBaqrRBYeY5B9w

[paddykafka]

Brendan Kennelly, Poet.

A lovely, kind, funny and genial man. I had the great pleasure of meeting and chatting with Brendan a good number of times over the years. He will be missed. Rest in Peace, Brendan.

https://poetryarchive.org/poem/poem-from-three-year-old/

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/brendan-kennelly-one-of-country-s-most-popular-poets-dies-aged-85-1.4703009

[IAMTHESYSTEM]

Former US Secretary Of State Colin Powell has died.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33957894

[milstar]

As with David Amess, someone may disagree with his personal politics, but when it comes to the military issues, Colin at least wasn't that bloodthirsty unlike many of his military compatriots. "war should be the last resort".

[GordonR]

As with David Amess, someone may disagree with his personal politics, but when it comes to the military issues, Colin at least wasn't that bloodthirsty unlike many of his military compatriots. "war should be the last resort".

Maybe when he gets to Hell he'll find those weapons of mass destruction that, as part of the Bush administration, he spent years lying about.

[Tjm86]

Might be worth taking a gander at this first mind ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/magazine/colin-powell-iraq-war.html

I always remember General De Billiere responding to a question after Op Granby about why the allies didn't follow the Iraqi forces into Iraq after they'd kicked them out of Kuwait.  He basically turned around and said that if they had done that then they would have spent the next decade sorting out the mess.  Bush and Blair seriously proved him right!

[milstar]

As with David Amess, someone may disagree with his personal politics, but when it comes to the military issues, Colin at least wasn't that bloodthirsty unlike many of his military compatriots. "war should be the last resort".

Maybe when he gets to Hell he'll find those weapons of mass destruction that, as part of the Bush administration, he spent years lying about.

I don't blame him entirely, and it's likely his only mistake in his career. He even acknowledged it afterwards.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2011/9/11/colin-powell-regrets-iraq-war-intelligence

[Hawkmumbler]

The words 'entirely' and 'likely' are doing a lot of leg work there, huh.

I once said we should have a 'Burn in Hell' thread but honestly it's not worth the energy, let the rats scream on their way down to the River Styx for the long swim ahead.

[milstar]

The words 'entirely' and 'likely' are doing a lot of leg work there, huh.

I think they are fairly fair.

[JayzusB.Christ]

I remember thinking he wasn't the worst of them back in the Bush years, but let's face it, it was a low bar.  They were a bloodthirsty shower of psychopaths, Powell included, and my sympathy is with the thousands whose lives they destroyed over a lie.

[GordonR]

He even acknowledged it afterwards.

Wow, that's amazing.

Tell me, what  actual repercussions did he - or any of the rest of them - suffer for admitting they started an illegal war on knowingly fraudulent grounds?

Does it not bother you in the slightest how fast you come running to defend the powerful?

[Funt Solo]

Plus he pronounced his own name wrong.

[rogue69]

Ronnie Tutt Elvis Presley's drummer from 1969 until 1977 has died aged 83.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58951519