Thought it would be good to collect all the reviews and reaction posts from Comic-Con in one place for ease of reading. Here's all the ones I've seen so far:
- Bleeding Cool: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/12/i-went-to-see-dredd-last-night-and-i-want-to-tell-you-about-it/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/07/12/i-went-to-see-dredd-last-night-and-i-want-to-tell-you-about-it/)
- ComicBook.com: http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/ (http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/07/12/dredd-the-comicbook-com-review/)
- Deadline: http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/comic-con-dredd-plays-to-cheering-fans-but-will-it-play-to-the-mainstream/ (http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/comic-con-dredd-plays-to-cheering-fans-but-will-it-play-to-the-mainstream/)
- Empire (first reaction): http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34550 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34550)
- IGN: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/07/12/dredd-review (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/07/12/dredd-review)
- Io9: http://io9.com/5925364/dredd-is-a-brutal-action-flick-with-both-a-high-body-count-and-a-brain (http://io9.com/5925364/dredd-is-a-brutal-action-flick-with-both-a-high-body-count-and-a-brain)
- Total Film: http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-first-reaction (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/dredd-first-reaction)
- Very Aware: http://veryaware.com/2012/07/sdcc-2012-review-dredd/ (http://veryaware.com/2012/07/sdcc-2012-review-dredd/)
Any more?
- Screen Crush: http://screencrush.com/dredd-movie-review (http://screencrush.com/dredd-movie-review)
- SFX: http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/12/dredd-the-sfx-verdict/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/12/dredd-the-sfx-verdict/)
- AICN: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56944 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56944)
Quote from: a chosen rider on 12 July, 2012, 12:00:29 PM
- SFX: http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/12/dredd-the-sfx-verdict/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/12/dredd-the-sfx-verdict/)
Thats my fave review so far.....not been this pummped for a movie since forever!
Sounds very graphic, which is great.
- JoBlo - Arrow in the Head: http://www.joblo.com/horror-movies/news/comic-con-2012-review-dredd
- The Playlist: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/comic-con-12-review-dredd-judge-dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-pete-travis-lena-headey-2000ad-20120712
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 01:37:10 PM
- The Playlist: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/comic-con-12-review-dredd-judge-dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-pete-travis-lena-headey-2000ad-20120712
Think that guy missed the point a little. Big ideas? This is a high octane, ultra violent action movie! You shouldn't be looking for 'big ideas' in this type of film. Big explosions and big guns, yes.
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 01:37:10 PM
- The Playlist: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/comic-con-12-review-dredd-judge-dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-pete-travis-lena-headey-2000ad-20120712
What're they expecting? Shakespeare?
I seem to recall the makers pitching it as being more than that though - Blade Runner meets a Clockwork Orange, sure there was something that Anthony Dod Mantle mentioned about it which made it sound a bit deeper than the 'high octane slay ride' shorthand.
http://2000adonline.tumblr.com/post/5718279387/here-is-an-interview-with-cinematographer-anthony (http://2000adonline.tumblr.com/post/5718279387/here-is-an-interview-with-cinematographer-anthony)
The Blade Runner/Clockwork Orange comparison was in purely visual terms, not in terms of story depth. And is Blade Runner a particularly clever film anyway? I always just thought it was a bit pompous and arty but ultimately quite shallow.
As for having a subtext, I'm hoping Dredd will have a similar level to something like District 9, it's there, and provides a little meat on the bones, but it's hardly a deep or particularly insightful treatise on the human condition.
As for exploring the rights and wrongs of the society Dredd presents - that seems to be what we'll get in the proposed sequel.
I just think dismissing any criticism is short-sighted, I know people are excited - I am too, but waving away any criticism, however minor with a 'what do they know', it's not like the pool of pot-shot shittily thought out comments that comprise a lot of internet message board posts.
If someone's gone to the effort of writing up a full review, then they might just have valid points.
Just saying.
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 July, 2012, 02:31:33 PM
I just think dismissing any criticism is short-sighted, I know people are excited - I am too, but waving away any criticism, however minor with a 'what do they know', it's not like the pool of pot-shot shittily thought out comments that comprise a lot of internet message board posts.
If someone's gone to the effort of writing up a full review, then they might just have valid points.
Just saying.
Very true, but on the other hand it's almost (not quite) like looking for a deeper meaning and depth to the likes of Transformers or Battleship, or even Paris Hilton, and then being surprised that there's not really all that much there by failing to see the film for what it is. We are, however, all fanboys here, so does it really surprise you? ;)
- First Showing: http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/video-blog-dredd-3d-with-karl-urban-is-violent-gritty-awesome/ (http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/video-blog-dredd-3d-with-karl-urban-is-violent-gritty-awesome/)
No, not really - but there is a whiff of this at the moment
(http://www.bloodygoodhorror.com/bgh/files/1bodysnatchers.jpg)
if anyone says anything even mildly critical or questioning, which feels like just a flipside of the naysayers.
Still, overjoyed to see it's getting a very positive buzz - especially after the script leak, the Raid comparisons etc. - hope it translates into solid ticket sales.
Yeah, the Blade Runner meets Clockwork Orange quote only came from Dod Mantle describing how he was lighting and shooting the visual texture but that's part of the 'story' too: how the Meg, the violence and the City Blocks comes across visually.
The criticisms so far haven't been about anything substantial.
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 02:38:39 PM
- First Showing: http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/video-blog-dredd-3d-with-karl-urban-is-violent-gritty-awesome/ (http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/video-blog-dredd-3d-with-karl-urban-is-violent-gritty-awesome/)
I like that - ad hoc responses like that get the enthusiasm over well...
- Movieline: http://movieline.com/2012/07/12/dredd-3d-comic-con-gory-action-karl-urban-codpieces/ (http://movieline.com/2012/07/12/dredd-3d-comic-con-gory-action-karl-urban-codpieces/)
- Movies.com: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/dredd-movie-review/8708 (http://www.movies.com/movie-news/dredd-movie-review/8708)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
Yeah, the Blade Runner meets Clockwork Orange quote only came from Dod Mantle describing how he was lighting and shooting the visual texture but that's part of the 'story' too: how the Meg, the violence and the City Blocks comes across visually.
The criticisms so far haven't been about anything substantial.
As far as the comments that the story lacks substance, social satire is an inherent part of all Judge Dredd tales, even the throw away light ones.
- Cinema Blend: www.cinemablend.com/new/Comic-Con-2012-Covering-Judge-Dredd-World-Premiere-31843.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Comic-Con-2012-Covering-Judge-Dredd-World-Premiere-31843.html)
- Hollywood: http://www.hollywood.com/news/Comic_Con_2012_Dredd_Review_Karl_Urban/33667597 (http://www.hollywood.com/news/Comic_Con_2012_Dredd_Review_Karl_Urban/33667597)
Superherohype http://www.superherohype.com/features/articles/171681-comic-con-a-sneak-preview-of-dredd-3d
Compare the visuals to Kubric.
Ahem.....Kubrick
- Coming Soon: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php)
apologies. same review as superherohype
No need to apologize to me :)
- Crave Online (no relation!): http://www.craveonline.com/film/reviews/192005-comic-con-2012-review-dredd-3d (http://www.craveonline.com/film/reviews/192005-comic-con-2012-review-dredd-3d)
Www.comingson.net http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=92483
Damn-another repeat from me!
A few reviews over on Rotten Tomatoes http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd/#contentReviews
- Collider.com: http://collider.com/dredd-review/179577/ (http://collider.com/dredd-review/179577/)
Also, commentary on the general positive buzz from the Huffington post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/dredd-reviews-comic-con-premiere_n_1667797.html), WorstPreviews (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=25411&count=0) and BloodyDisgusting.com (http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3153416/san-diego-comic-con-12-reaction-to-dredd-surprisingly-gory/).
Another AICN review http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56957
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 01:37:10 PM
- The Playlist: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/comic-con-12-review-dredd-judge-dredd-karl-urban-olivia-thirlby-pete-travis-lena-headey-2000ad-20120712
I've no idea whether the film contains any of the subtext the reviewer bemoans the lack of, but the fact he describes the film as being "liberal but judicious" in its use of violence suggests he might not have the smarts to spot a subtext anyway.
- Geek Tyrant video review : http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/7/12/sdcc-12-dredd-3d-video-review-violent-as-hell.html (http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/7/12/sdcc-12-dredd-3d-video-review-violent-as-hell.html)
Not sure if this has been done yet.
http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/7/12/sdcc-12-dredd-3d-video-review-violent-as-hell.html (http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/7/12/sdcc-12-dredd-3d-video-review-violent-as-hell.html)
Generally positive with a few reservations on pacing.
Seen a few really good mentions regarding the score.
The Geek Tyrant review is also on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i-Y8jtPZ5Q
- Holywood Reporter, Heat Vision : http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-dredd-karl-urban-348567 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-dredd-karl-urban-348567)
http://twitchfilm.com/reviews/2012/07/sdcc-2012-dredd-3d-brings-mega-violence-to-mega-city-one.php (http://twitchfilm.com/reviews/2012/07/sdcc-2012-dredd-3d-brings-mega-violence-to-mega-city-one.php)
- Shock Till You Drop : http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/reviews/168569-the-fringe-thoughts-on-dredd-from-the-comic-con-screening (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/reviews/168569-the-fringe-thoughts-on-dredd-from-the-comic-con-screening)
(Getting Karl Urban's nationality wrong.)
- EMPIRE full review : http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=136963 (http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=136963)
Breaking the embargo after the film was screened to press over here a couple of days ago I believe.
He reviews the film by comparing it to the Raid which kind of makes the review a bit redundant.
- SLASH FILM video review : http://www.slashfilm.com/video-blog-dredd-harkens-action-films-eighties-comiccon-2012/ (http://www.slashfilm.com/video-blog-dredd-harkens-action-films-eighties-comiccon-2012/)
My opinion of Empire has drastically dropped this past year, they've got too big I think, too in bed with some big directors and too much at stake to criticise where it's due.
Reviews that don't gush over EVERY MOMENT and comparisons to The Raid are to be expected. What's important is that every review I've read seems to be positive.
- Variety : http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892/ (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892/)
Reveals 96 minutes rutime.
At a time when most comicbook adaptations try to be all things to all people, "Dredd" makes the radical choice of playing to the base. Dredd-heads disappointed by the creative liberties and concessions to conventionality made by the Stallone version will find little reason to quibble with the determined and unapologetic approach to the one-man judge, jury and executioner here...
The film's unforgiving version of Dredd is something of a cross between Christian Bale's Batman and Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name. He's a badass of few words and a gravelly voice. While Urban isn't permitted to reveal much humanity behind the man (we never even get a peek at Dredd's eyes beneath his uniform helmet, let alone his soul), he does a fine job embodying the more mythic qualities of Dredd as an upright law enforcer no lowlife would want to confront...
Anthony Dod Mantle's cinematography, which eschews the jittery handheld imagery of Travis' earlier films for more careful compositions...
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:55:56 PM
- Variety : http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892/ (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892/)
Anthony Dod Mantle's cinematography, which eschews the jittery handheld imagery of Travis' earlier films for more careful compositions...[/i]
Yay for no handheld jitteryness. I was prepared to risk the motion sickness for Dredd but it's much better to not have to.
And this has been the longest I've been online since I don't know when. Waiting for SDCC panel reports, vids, pics and reviews and tweets. Every crumb.
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 09:13:28 PM
- SLASH FILM video review : http://www.slashfilm.com/video-blog-dredd-harkens-action-films-eighties-comiccon-2012/ (http://www.slashfilm.com/video-blog-dredd-harkens-action-films-eighties-comiccon-2012/)
I liked that Slashfilm review; again, very positive and by people completely ignorant of the source material. Their basic opinion: solid.
"You'd think that there's probably no new way to see someone, y'know, get shot, but there's at least ten in this movie..."
:)
Funny how Empire give the Raid 5 stars, and Dredd 3, even though he is saying they are too similar?
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 11:30:45 PM
Funny how Empire give the Raid 5 stars, and Dredd 3, even though he is saying they are too similar?
Chris Hewitt is famous for being the man who once gave Attack of the Clones 5 stars.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 11:30:45 PM
Funny how Empire give the Raid 5 stars, and Dredd 3, even though he is saying they are too similar?
Similar but different films.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 11:57:24 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 11:30:45 PM
Funny how Empire give the Raid 5 stars, and Dredd 3, even though he is saying they are too similar?
Similar but different films.
Yeah, but he is using the similarities as a negative on Dredd which is just annoying. It even seems he is aware that Dredd started first but doesn't seem to take it into account.
Is it so wrong of them just to say they are both good?
- Filmonic: http://filmonic.com/review-dredd (http://filmonic.com/review-dredd)
- BadassDigest: http://badassdigest.com/2012/07/12/comic-con-movie-review-dredd-is-bloody-fun/ (http://badassdigest.com/2012/07/12/comic-con-movie-review-dredd-is-bloody-fun/)
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 13 July, 2012, 12:25:47 AM
Is it so wrong of them just to say they are both good?
The Raid out-does anything else in its
class so by comparing them he's saying the Raid is a better film, but, it's like saying 'the Raid' is a
bad film because it's not as good a 'Dredd' film as Dredd is. Nonsense.
The star-rating system is such a load of abstract bollocks anyway.
Quite liked this review on rotten tomatoes.
"Makes Dirty Harry look like 12 Angry Men"
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 12:32:20 AM
The star-rating system is such a load of abstract bollocks anyway.
Yeah, it would seem more logical to have 5 people of different tastes rate it, and if all 5 people liked it, then it's 5 stars. Seems much better then the opinion of an asshole like him. He and I clearly don't have the same opinion of films (Raid was good, but best action movie in dacades? No.) so his review is pointless, but his will be paid more attention to as it is for a magazine.
Come to think of it, are Empire good for anything? I would say movie news but they are always a couple of days late at that too!
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 07:13:50 PM
The Geek Tyrant review is also on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i-Y8jtPZ5Q
I think they went in expecting to see Avengers Assemble.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 01:07:50 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 07:13:50 PM
The Geek Tyrant review is also on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i-Y8jtPZ5Q
I think they went in expecting to see Avengers Assemble.
Got about halfway through and decided I couldn't stand them..
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 01:21:19 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 13 July, 2012, 01:07:50 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 07:13:50 PM
The Geek Tyrant review is also on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i-Y8jtPZ5Q
I think they went in expecting to see Avengers Assemble.
Got about halfway through and decided I couldn't stand them..
To be fair the tall guy hasn't got a clue about Dredd and the worst comment they made was there are 'better action movies out there' but on the whole the review was pretty positive
Empire's review was overall pretty positive, read more like a 4-star review even (I really wish everyone would just do away with star ratings etc.) I think one of the critics main points is that of the film has an overabundance of ambition vs. budget, which to me sounds like a pretty high class problem to have!
From all the hoop-la I was expecting a 4.......but on a positive Empire gave the Raid a 5 and I've read that Dredd was better,opinions are different but the general buzz is that Dredds good to excellent depending on where you look.I've not read one review that slates it.
Empire gave Attack of the Clones 5.......they are wrong! granted they reduced it on DVD but still.....
Never forget!
Empire seemed to knock off a star just because Dredd isn't The Raid. What a poor poor magazine it has become...
I miss Neon. That was great.
Now now, let's not get into all this 'they gave this film x stars so what do they know' - you're as bad as those Prometheus apologists who attacked critics for daring to give an honest opinion of the film before they'd actually seen it for themselves.
I do agree that the actual review seemed quite positive though, it was probably a borderline 4/5.
Quote from: Steve Green on 13 July, 2012, 05:02:40 PM
I miss Neon. That was great.
Neon was a brilliant film mag and pissed all over Empire!
Still got the back issues stored away in the garage somewhere.
Meh.. Empire put the Lawgiver on the cover.. I can't be toooo hard on 'em..
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 05:51:34 PM
Meh.. Empire put the Lawgiver on the cover.. I can't be toooo hard on 'em..
And Mr Urban signed my subscriber's copy so maybe I should cut it some slack! :)
So I have a look at www.news24.com, a pretty huge South African news site.. They've got one story about comic con. Is it Dredd, shot in SA and received critical acclaim across the board? No. They're running Twilight.. I voiced my disgust.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 13 July, 2012, 07:05:04 PM
So I have a look at www.news24.com, a pretty huge South African news site.. They've got one story about comic con. Is it Dredd, shot in SA and received critical acclaim across the board? No. They're running Twilight.. I voiced my disgust.
Maybe this help?
(http://i.imgur.com/LFPvi.jpg)
Nice :)
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/9186/twilight-ending-blade.jpg)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 July, 2012, 08:19:02 PM
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/9186/twilight-ending-blade.jpg)
About bloody time!! :lol:
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 13 July, 2012, 04:05:35 PM
From all the hoop-la I was expecting a 4.......but on a positive Empire gave the Raid a 5 and I've read that Dredd was better,opinions are different but the general buzz is that Dredds good to excellent depending on where you look.I've not read one review that slates it.
Empire gave Attack of the Clones 5.......they are wrong! granted they reduced it on DVD but still.....
Never forget!
I suppose that all depends on whether different people reviewd AOTC.
People are entitled to change their views of course but I get the impression that some reviewers just go along with trends and if a film seems to become unpopular or maligned they'll just go along with the flow.
I still have reservations about Dredd but at least it's getting some fairly positive reviews so far.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 11:30:45 PM
Funny how Empire give the Raid 5 stars, and Dredd 3, even though he is saying they are too similar?
Chris Hewitt is famous for being the man who once gave Attack of the Clones 5 stars.
QuoteI suppose that all depends on whether different people reviewd AOTC.
Its smart to reserve judgement, but This particular reviewer has made mistakes in the past. The constant comparisons to the Raid are quite blind-sighted being that he is aware all the similarities are coincidental. Its all down to personal taste.
Other than that it is a positive review just like most them are so far.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 14 July, 2012, 12:23:47 AM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 12 July, 2012, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 12 July, 2012, 11:30:45 PM
Funny how Empire give the Raid 5 stars, and Dredd 3, even though he is saying they are too similar?
Chris Hewitt is famous for being the man who once gave Attack of the Clones 5 stars.
QuoteI suppose that all depends on whether different people reviewd AOTC.
Its smart to reserve judgement, but This particular reviewer has made mistakes in the past. The constant comparisons to the Raid are quite blind-sighted being that he is aware all the similarities are coincidental. Its all down to personal taste.
Other than that it is a positive review just like most them are so far.
Actually.....seing as this started filming before the Raid....maybe he should be saying the Raid is similar to Dredd? Especially as the script was leaked a year or two back.
Quote from: radiator on 12 July, 2012, 02:17:46 PM
And is Blade Runner a particularly clever film anyway? I always just thought it was a bit pompous and arty but ultimately quite shallow.
Nothing shallow about it in my book. Greatest sci-fi film ever made. In my book.
But I digress, Dredd: looking epic!
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 14 July, 2012, 12:06:35 AM
I still have reservations about Dredd but at least it's getting mostly excellent reviews so far.
I fixed that for you.
Four reviews up on Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd/) so far, all positive. Anybody know how many they require before they give a film an overall score?
I'm sure it will be news to Carlos Ezquerra that he wrote the movie, though.
- Comic Book Resources: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39771 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39771)
Quote from: CraveNoir on 14 July, 2012, 02:41:59 PM
- Comic Book Resources: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39771 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39771)
"Dredd" is a brutal film that has earned its R rating. Within the first 30 minutes alone, Dredd dispatches enough baddies to fill the roster of a professional baseball team. During the course of the story, throats are crushed, people are skinned alive, multiple heads are blown up and there is no shortage of creeps falling 200-stories to solid concrete. One of those falls, in particular, near the end of the movie is responsible for one of the most breathtakingly gorgeous scenes of violence I've ever witnessed and is sure to be a talking point for everyone who sees the film"
Quote from: a chosen rider on 14 July, 2012, 02:18:03 PM
Four reviews up on Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd/) so far, all positive. Anybody know how many they require before they give a film an overall score?
That won't happen until closer to the movie's release date.
Just a warning that the CBR review above is a little spoilery, a couple of scenes are described in more detail than strictly called for.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=34579 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=34579) Karl uban Interview at around 07:20 mins in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkFIRKydjIs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkFIRKydjIs) Joblo Interview
Quote from: CraveNoir on 12 July, 2012, 10:55:56 PM
- Variety : http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892/ (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947892/)
Reveals 96 minutes rutime.
At a time when most comicbook adaptations try to be all things to all people, "Dredd" makes the radical choice of playing to the base. Dredd-heads disappointed by the creative liberties and concessions to conventionality made by the Stallone version will find little reason to quibble with the determined and unapologetic approach to the one-man judge, jury and executioner here...
The film's unforgiving version of Dredd is something of a cross between Christian Bale's Batman and Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name. He's a badass of few words and a gravelly voice. While Urban isn't permitted to reveal much humanity behind the man (we never even get a peek at Dredd's eyes beneath his uniform helmet, let alone his soul), he does a fine job embodying the more mythic qualities of Dredd as an upright law enforcer no lowlife would want to confront...
Anthony Dod Mantle's cinematography, which eschews the jittery handheld imagery of Travis' earlier films for more careful compositions...
That Variety review must be especially gratifying for the filmmakers, considering how generally difficult they are to please! :D
Prepare your minds for this retarded shit
http://www.barrowjournal.com/archives/6977-BROWN-Seriously-Hollywood.html
I told her, I did.
Who, Roger's mum?
Quote from: Durendal on 15 July, 2012, 12:45:25 AM
Prepare your minds for this retarded shit
http://www.barrowjournal.com/archives/6977-BROWN-Seriously-Hollywood.html
The article admits "they have completely changed the storyline ... and use(d) different characters".
So
Dredd (2012) is a remake of
Judge Dredd (1995) in the same way that
The Big Sleep (1946) is a remake of
Farewell My Lovely (1944)- since it tells a completely different story and uses completely different characters, except for the male lead.
Did Thomas Jane ever have to deal with this shit with the Punisher remake? Thousands of dolts who, instead of spending ten seconds looking it up, have decided to be vocally offended by an attempt at reviving a comic book franchise they know nothing about, based on their inaccurate perception of it as a remake of a 17-year-old film they maybe saw once at Christmas when they were kids.
I wish I had a baseball bat the size of the moon so I could beat the shit out of this stupid planet
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 15 July, 2012, 10:39:35 AMI wish I had a baseball bat the size of the moon so I could beat the shit out of this stupid planet
Looks like that single drop of Oracle Spice was one too many.
Olivia Thirlby interview at Crave Online.
http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/192209-comic-con-2012-olivia-thirlby-on-dredd
It still amazes me that they managed to create 4 awful Punisher films. Of course Marvel still want to reboot the character.
That article is actually pretty splendid in its Wrongness, managing to irritate and befuddle anew with almost every sentence. However, I most enjoyed:
[spoiler]...the original can be vastly improved upon but why would you want to? [/spoiler]
The story of humanity comes to a crashing end right there.
Obviously that was supposed to be a quote, not a spoiler. The Wrong is catching.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 July, 2012, 11:05:45 AM
It still amazes me that they managed to create 4 awful Punisher films.
One of them is so bad, it has never seen the light of day. :D
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 15 July, 2012, 10:39:35 AM
Did Thomas Jane ever have to deal with this shit with the Punisher remake?
It's so easy to make that mistake, even you are doing it now.
Quote from: TordelBack on 15 July, 2012, 11:07:02 AM
That article is actually pretty splendid in its Wrongness, managing to irritate and befuddle anew with almost every sentence. However, I most enjoyed:
[spoiler]...the original can be vastly improved upon but why would you want to? [/spoiler]
The story of humanity comes to a crashing end right there.
We should never have tried to improve on cuneiform script. It's been all downhill ever since.
(http://giulio.freeblog.hu/files/2012/06/13/elszabtak.jpg)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 July, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
(http://giulio.freeblog.hu/files/2012/06/13/elszabtak.jpg)
(left to right) Gavin Leahy, Mick McMahon, Kev O'Neil, Brian Bolland (sans glasses)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 July, 2012, 11:05:45 AM
It still amazes me that they managed to create 4 awful Punisher films. Of course Marvel still want to reboot the character.
4? I know of the Dolph Lundgren one, but not seen it - saw the Thomas Jane one... erm yeah. and I've never seen War Zone.
I see by IMDB there's a 15 minute short with a terrible cover - is that the 4th? Or is there yet another?
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 15 July, 2012, 10:39:35 AM
I wish I had a baseball bat the size of the moon so I could beat the shit out of this stupid planet
My thoughts exactly
As I've said in the past we are slowly heading for
(http://shirtoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/idiocracy-no-brain.jpg)
(http://www.reactor-core.com/idiocracy/photos/050912_retarded.jpg)
Quote from: Durendal on 15 July, 2012, 12:45:25 AM
Prepare your minds for this retarded shit
http://www.barrowjournal.com/archives/6977-BROWN-Seriously-Hollywood.html
"But what do I know?"
Er – nothing.
What I told her:
Why do you consider Dredd a remake of Judge Dredd?
Is every James Bond movie a remake?
Oh man, that article is hilarious. She can hardly manage a single coherent sentence. One of my favs:
QuoteAnd "Fright Night," was not a more popular horror film in the 80's so I can see why there could be a remake in that film.
What??Quotethe final straw has been drawn
You couldn't mangle a metaphor better than that if you tried.
QuoteI am gladly open to feedback
"Gladly open"??
QuoteJessica Brown is the staff photographer for the Barrow Journal
That explains a lot. Sometimes it's best to stick to what you know.
Actually, I take that back.
I've started looking back through her other articles, and I think I'm in love. Each one reads like a dispatch from the country of the concussed.
Ok, I just gotta share these gems then I'll shut up.
From an article about a photography assignment:
QuoteThe other day, the Journal asked me about covering the SWAT team search and rescue training in town. It was during that week of training, the men would become certified SWAT members. It seemed like an interesting thing to cover; it was much different than sports or town festivals so I was eager to give it a shot.
From an article decrying baggy pants:
QuoteI look back at many 80s films (mostly Sylvester Stallone flicks) where the hero is wearing pants properly. They are pulled all the way up, secured with a belt, and the underwear is left to the imagination. A wonderful example would be the movies "Cobra" and "Over The Top" where Sylvester Stallone demonstrates the perfect way of wearing pants.
And the opening sentence of an article on, well, best left to the imagination:
QuoteWhen I woke up Saturday morning, I never expected that I would have become a man by the end of the night.
Hootin' heck, who knew Roger had a blog?
Quote from: Syne on 15 July, 2012, 04:53:02 PM
QuoteI look back at many 80s films (mostly Sylvester Stallone flicks) where the hero is wearing pants properly. They are pulled all the way up, secured with a belt, and the underwear is left to the imagination. A wonderful example would be the movies "Cobra" and "Over The Top" where Sylvester Stallone demonstrates the perfect way of wearing pants.
Four comedy writers and Steve Coogan locked themselves in a room for
weeks brainstorming just a few episodes of
I'm Alan Partridge. If they ever took a look at this genius's blog entries, they'd feel like Salieri watching Mozart casually tossing out pefectly honed compositions at will.
So are these all reviews of the same film you're posting?
Quote from: SuperSurfer on 15 July, 2012, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: Durendal on 15 July, 2012, 12:45:25 AM
Prepare your minds for this retarded shit
http://www.barrowjournal.com/archives/6977-BROWN-Seriously-Hollywood.html
"But what do I know?"
Er – nothing.
What I told her:
Why do you consider Dredd a remake of Judge Dredd?
Is every James Bond movie a remake?
I just tried to add a second comment to that article, resulting in the message:
+Warning: This comment needs approval before it will be displayed+
Quite amusing, considering that definitely didn't happen the first time I added a comment. I guess the folks at the "Barrow Journal" are unused to people questioning their infinite wisdom.
I think they got the message in all fairness. It was becoming a bully-fest.
It's a cutesy filler column attached to a small town newspaper, the critical equivalent of a Care Bear with a crayon. Not really worth responding to with such vitriol.
Quote from: Syne on 16 July, 2012, 01:47:31 AM
It's a cutesy filler column attached to a small town newspaper, the critical equivalent of a Care Bear with a crayon. Not really worth responding to with such vitriol.
Exactly. The ugly side of fandom.
Quote
This 'young lady' took it upon herself to criticize this film for being a reboot; despite the fact that the most cursory of research would have revealed this not to be the case.
In doing so, she has made herself appear foolish, and has done the same to this publication. And you suggest that she should not be criticized because... why?
That's a bit Harsh, :lol: comedy gold.
You're gonna make that poor girl cry...
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/joblo-podcast-the-2012-concast-w-thomas-jane-matt-damon-our-dredd-reviews
JoBLo Podcast. Review of Dredd at about 6min 45sec.
direct link to mp3 (http://www.joblo.com/movie-podcasts/mp3/joblo/joblo-podcast-ep191.mp3)
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 16 July, 2012, 02:56:11 AM
Quote
This 'young lady' took it upon herself to criticize this film for being a reboot; despite the fact that the most cursory of research would have revealed this not to be the case.
In doing so, she has made herself appear foolish, and has done the same to this publication. And you suggest that she should not be criticized because... why?
That's a bit Harsh, :lol: comedy gold.
You're gonna make that poor girl cry...
That wasn't mine. I always use my name. Also to be fair I don't think my particular comments were particularly harsh or vitriolic. In my second post (which they have not published) I made basically the same point as the above, only stating it (IMO) in a less cutting way. The fact that they chose to publish the harsher version of that point over mine implies that they
want to make us look as bad as possible.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=63947
Olivia Thirlby On Playing Judge Anderson, & What She'd Like To See In A Sequel
Quote from: CraveNoir on 16 July, 2012, 05:03:36 PM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=63947
Olivia Thirlby On Playing Judge Anderson, & What She'd Like To See In A Sequel
HELL YES!!!!
Dark Judges for a sequel? Booo! Hisss!
-I am so disappointed with you Ms. Thirlby!- I don't think I'll marry you after all!
Quote from: darnmarr on 16 July, 2012, 05:41:48 PM
-I am so disappointed with you Ms. Thirlby!- I don't think I'll marry you after all!
Careful, she's psychic you know. Somewhere on the other side of the pond she's punching the air in disappointment and frustration, right now. :lol:
Quote from: Mardroid on 16 July, 2012, 05:44:56 PM
....somewhere on the other side of the pond she's punching the air in disappointment and frustration, right now. :lol:
She had her chance: hmmnn I wonder if Lena's available?
Also, if she's truly psychic, she can take comfort in the fact, that while the marraige is off: I will still consider her for a sordid encounter.
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 15 July, 2012, 10:39:35 AM
Did Thomas Jane ever have to deal with this shit with the Punisher remake? Thousands of dolts who, instead of spending ten seconds looking it up, have decided to be vocally offended by an attempt at reviving a comic book franchise they know nothing about, based on their inaccurate perception of it as a remake of a 17-year-old film they maybe saw once at Christmas when they were kids.
Yes and no.
No, in the sense that pretty much no one remembered and brought up the previous Lundgren effort, and those that did, were under no illusion that the Lundgren movie was somehow a worthwhile Punisher movie.
Yes, in the sense that he was being compared directly to Frank Castle of the comics - and him being short, ginger and skinny (which he was when announced) didn't sit right with pretty much anyone.
There were however a minority who defended his casting, based on his perfomance in Thursday and Stander.
I know, because I was in that minority. Boy do I regret the time spent on that, as it turned out the movie stunk and Jane was okay at best. But it did teach me valuable lesson about blind fanboy optimism.
interview with Karl at 2012 comic con
its violent
http://youtu.be/tkFIRKydjIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkFIRKydjIs&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: junox on 16 July, 2012, 07:03:00 PM
interview with Karl at 2012 comic con
its violent
http://youtu.be/tkFIRKydjIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkFIRKydjIs&feature=youtu.be
I thought you meant the interview was violent!
violent yeah sorry a quote from Karl about dredd movie
another good interview part 1 of 3 from london panel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_kfxZXcXH0&feature=share
QuoteYes and no.
No, in the sense that pretty much no one remembered and brought up the previous Lundgren effort, and those that did, were under no illusion that the Lundgren movie was somehow a worthwhile Punisher movie.
Yes, in the sense that he was being compared directly to Frank Castle of the comics - and him being short, ginger and skinny (which he was when announced) didn't sit right with pretty much anyone.
There were however a minority who defended his casting, based on his perfomance in Thursday and Stander.
I know, because I was in that minority. Boy do I regret the time spent on that, as it turned out the movie stunk and Jane was okay at best. But it did teach me valuable lesson about blind fanboy optimism.
There was also a bit of beef on Thomas Janes comic website when War Zone was announced, a bit of vitriol against the re-casting caused a stir in the forums and some Ray Stevenson fans were a bit put out :)
This thread is wrong. There are far too many links. There should only be seven.
V
Lovely-jubbly. Look who's in the winners...
- Comic Book Therapy: http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/dredd-3d-review-44965 (http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/dredd-3d-review-44965)
good detailed stuff.
Quote from: blackmocco on 16 July, 2012, 09:57:01 PM
Lovely-jubbly. Look who's in the winners...
S'pose it would help if I posted the link. haha!
http://io9.com/5926398/the-biggest-winners-and-losers-of-comic-con-2012?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Quote from: CraveNoir on 16 July, 2012, 10:45:05 PM
- Comic Book Therapy: http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/dredd-3d-review-44965 (http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/dredd-3d-review-44965)
good detailed stuff.
That's one of the best reviews of the movie so far.
QuoteMany of the vehicles look to be from the 1980s, and being in a post-apocalyptic society it makes sense that much of society would revert back to the older less computer controlled vehicles, even the display on the Lawgiver resembles digital displays from the 80s, think of an old VCR display or those old 'speak-n-say' toys. It all works to help convey the sense despair and lawlessness that is perfect for Mega-City 1.
The 80'sness of the production might even be of great benefit to the film as a whole, from the vehicles to the John Carpenter style soundtrack.
I know as a kid in the 80's Judge Dredd and 2000ad was so engrained in my psyche and I'll bet a lot of other fans, that perhaps it will seem all the more believable for the film to be set in that 80's vision of the future.
Thirlby, Wall Street Journal interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GZjQGvRxkA
- Dread Central : http://www.dreadcentral.com/reviews/dredd-2012 (http://www.dreadcentral.com/reviews/dredd-2012)
another interesting review
Funny or Die - Amusing (probably, I haven't heard it all yet) discussion of the 1995 abomination.
http://www.funnyordie.com/podcasts/c8ac52bbae/judge-dredd
Dread Central - San Diego Comic-Con 2012: Roundtable Interview with Dredd 3D Star Karl Urban
http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/57343/san-diego-comic-con-2012-roundtable-interview-dredd-3d-star-karl-urban
VIDEO: Urban & Thirby Interview
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39870
good stuff.
Upcoming Movies - Olivia Thirlby Interview
http://www.upcoming-movies.com/Articles/comic-con-2012-interview-with-olivia-thirlby-for-dredd/
Poptimal - article on DREDD.
http://poptimal.com/2012/07/comic-con-2012-no-guts-no-gory-for-dredd/
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 10:41:22 AM
Poptimal - article on DREDD.
http://poptimal.com/2012/07/comic-con-2012-no-guts-no-gory-for-dredd/
Oooh like this;
It's the first narrative feature film to use the Phantom Flex, a camera capable of shooting HD video at 2,500 frames per second, meaning that when someone gets shot in the face, they really get shot in the face. Like, for an hour. All in 3D. The violence in Dredd may shock, but it comes part and parcel of the character and the world.
Quote from: vzzbux on 16 July, 2012, 09:39:33 PM
This thread is wrong. There are far too many links. There should only be seven.
Magnificent.
Wrong, but magnificent.
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 12:11:21 AM
Funny or Die - Amusing (probably, I haven't heard it all yet) discussion of the 1995 abomination.
http://www.funnyordie.com/podcasts/c8ac52bbae/judge-dredd
Wow. They irritated me in the first 5 minutes more than Rob Schneider did... some feat.
Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd/) has added the Variety review, and that's apparently enough to give the film a provisional "100% Fresh" rating. :D Nice pull quote used from that review, as well:
QuoteGrim, gritty and ultra-violent, Dredd reinstates the somber brutality missing from the U.K. comicbook icon's previous screen outing.
I don't get the rating system on RT. 100% fresh, but a 6.3 out of 10 rating average, even though there is only a choice out of 5 stars?
Still glad is is fresh though.
Quote from: Steve Green on 17 July, 2012, 11:24:45 AM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 12:11:21 AM
Funny or Die - Amusing (probably, I haven't heard it all yet) discussion of the 1995 abomination.
http://www.funnyordie.com/podcasts/c8ac52bbae/judge-dredd
Wow. They irritated me in the first 5 minutes more than Rob Schneider did... some feat.
Kinda like being trapped behind a bunch of chirpy hipster teens in a bus. For an hour.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 17 July, 2012, 12:25:33 PM
I don't get the rating system on RT. 100% fresh, but a 6.3 out of 10 rating average, even though there is only a choice out of 5 stars?
RT's system is binary: good or bad. With positive reviews totalling over 60%, a film is marked as 'fresh'.
I wonder, is there any bad reviews?
If no, great! They do know what to do!
Bring on September!
*saying thank you to all who are posting in this thread* Thank you.
+ whoever is managing the JDMN Twitter, also thank you.
Dread Central - San Diego Comic-Con 2012: Roundtable Interview with Olivia Thirlby
http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/57348/san-diego-comic-con-2012-roundtable-interview-dredd-3d-co-star-olivia-thirlby
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 17 July, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
+ whoever is managing the JDMN Twitter, also thank you.
You're welcome. :) ...and now that things will be quiet for a few weeks I've changed the name to @dreddalert (http://twitter.com/DreddAlert)
have something for you tomorow :)
About.com - Karl Urban Interview
http://movies.about.com/od/dredd/a/karl-urban-interview.htm
Quote from: CraveNoir on 17 July, 2012, 08:58:29 PM
Quote from: karlurbaninternational on 17 July, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
+ whoever is managing the JDMN Twitter, also thank you.
You're welcome. :) ...and now that things will be quiet for a few weeks I've changed the name to @dreddalert (http://twitter.com/DreddAlert)
That's a neat naming idea!
Mania - DREDD 3D - Comic Con First Impression
http://www.mania.com/dredd-3d-comic-con-first-impression_article_133657.html
Cheers, Kowalsky.
I'm sure I posted here many years ago about hating story title puns on the name Dredd!
It has a certain irony granted but bodes well for this film :)
Moving on here is a link to an article which does hit home for the uninitiated. Including a visit to the twooth booth at San Diego Comic Con.
http://www.mania.com/dredd-3d-comic-con-first-impression_article_133657.html (http://www.mania.com/dredd-3d-comic-con-first-impression_article_133657.html)
Positive podcast review:
http://www.killerfilm.com/spotlight/read/killercast-episode-50-108212
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 12:54:24 PM
Positive podcast review:
http://www.killerfilm.com/spotlight/read/killercast-episode-50-108212
Wow. Does anybody have anything bad to say about 'Dredd'?- I feel like I'm dreaming...
Quote from: darnmarr on 18 July, 2012, 02:41:54 PM
Wow. Does anybody have anything bad to say about 'Dredd'?- I feel like I'm dreaming...
I do.. We still have to wait two months to see it.
Quote from: CraveNoir on 18 July, 2012, 08:57:43 AM
Mania - DREDD 3D - Comic Con First Impression
http://www.mania.com/dredd-3d-comic-con-first-impression_article_133657.html
I like this;
As I stated above this is a first impression of DREDD 3D. I don't feel as if I have the full Judge Dredd comic knowledge to make a fair full review. What I saw was gritty, raw, and refreshing. I don't need my movie comic book heroes to save the world every time. Studios, however, want the giant sweeping epic. What I got was a good story that wasn't over the top nor plagued by comic relief. Yes, Rob Schneider, I am looking at you.
I stopped at the 2000 AD (publishers of the comic) booth at Comic Con and asked the all important question, "Where do I start with Judge Dredd?" A question I had no desire to ask in 1995. The answer was quick and simple, "The Day the Law Died" by John Wagner. A copy of which was promptly stuck in my had by a extremely helpful British gentlemen.
Not sure if this has been posted already...
Empire podcast interview with Karl Urban :: http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/comic-con-2012-podcast-2-karl (http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/comic-con-2012-podcast-2-karl)
Quote from: Goaty on 18 July, 2012, 05:37:08 PM
I stopped at the 2000 AD (publishers of the comic) booth at Comic Con and asked the all important question, "Where do I start with Judge Dredd?" A question I had no desire to ask in 1995. The answer was quick and simple, "The Day the Law Died" by John Wagner. A copy of which was promptly stuck in my had by a extremely helpful British gentlemen.
Which ironically is the story most similar to the plot of the '95 film.
That kinda ruins it.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 18 July, 2012, 08:08:37 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 18 July, 2012, 05:37:08 PM
I stopped at the 2000 AD (publishers of the comic) booth at Comic Con and asked the all important question, "Where do I start with Judge Dredd?" A question I had no desire to ask in 1995. The answer was quick and simple, "The Day the Law Died" by John Wagner. A copy of which was promptly stuck in my had by a extremely helpful British gentlemen.
Which ironically is the story most similar to the plot of the '95 film.
True, but it has the real Fergee, Cal, Judge Fish of course and a good range of artists. I've seen that described as being "a bad thing" but as an introduction it has its merits.
From personal experience I would have suggested something later on. I haven't read a great deal myself, but the Tour of Duty were my firsts and it gets you into it as a new comer pretty well.
Then later on I read the cursed earth saga manga book thing, and Dredd was much different and not what I expected. He didn't seem developed enough. Far too talkative and kind. Still, good fun though. I really loved the quote "Nobody defies the alien catcher general!!" And also Satanus was funny.
If you ever need evidence that Alex Jones and his cohorts are idiots -or pretend to be- look no further:
New Judge Dredd May Be Most Despicable Superhero Yet:
http://www.infowars.com/new-judge-dredd-may-be-most-despicable-superhero-yet/
Previous slavering:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctTOzEFbXLU
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
If you ever need evidence that Alex Jones and his cohorts are idiots -or pretend to be- look no further:
New Judge Dredd May Be Most Despicable Superhero Yet:
http://www.infowars.com/new-judge-dredd-may-be-most-despicable-superhero-yet/
Previous slavering:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctTOzEFbXLU
Didn't make it past the first paragraph.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
If you ever need evidence that Alex Jones and his cohorts are idiots -or pretend to be- look no further:
New Judge Dredd May Be Most Despicable Superhero Yet:
http://www.infowars.com/new-judge-dredd-may-be-most-despicable-superhero-yet/
Previous slavering:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctTOzEFbXLU
I would take this negative as a positive, to be honest. Haha! He actually gets the concept better than most critics. Maybe he can have Dave "Hello me. Meet the real me!" Mustaine on yet again to discuss his fucking wacko nonsense...
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
If you ever need evidence that Alex Jones and his cohorts are idiots -or pretend to be- look no further:
New Judge Dredd May Be Most Despicable Superhero Yet:
http://www.infowars.com/new-judge-dredd-may-be-most-despicable-superhero-yet/
File this under 'Good Reviews'.
Quote from: blackmocco on 19 July, 2012, 12:56:04 AM
Maybe he can have Dave "Hello me. Meet the real me!" Mustaine on yet again to discuss his fucking wacko nonsense...
Dave and his travelling pastor.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 19 July, 2012, 12:54:27 AM
Didn't make it past the first paragraph.
Paragraphs 3 and 4 are entertaining in a 'say wha'?' kind of way.
Why did he put premiered into quotations? Does he doubt that it "happened"?
He seems to completely miss the fact that Judge Dredd has some very dark satire at its heart. That's the whole point of judge, jury and executioner!
Also let's never allow anyone to call Dredd a superhero. Ech.
This is great: clearly the rumblings are that this will be a popular film.
If it's on the radar at all for american audiences, then I reckon we can expect more of this nonsense. This man is advertising our film only because he believes it will be popular: he's band-wagon jumping... and I say 'how bad?': the people who hate him (of which there must be many) will be driven to the cinema in droves by this kinda crap.
Expect more 'Judge Dredd glorifies violence and is corrupting America, won't somebody please think of the children rameis' as the film gains popularity/notoriety in its target market.
Quote from: PreacherCain on 19 July, 2012, 02:28:10 AM
He seems to completely miss the fact that Judge Dredd has some very dark satire at its heart. That's the whole point of judge, jury and executioner!
It's easy to miss if it's not explained. Have to say though, it's a pretty terrifying vision of the future if you're going into the movie cold.
hmmnnn...fair point; I'm just so used to the concept since I can remember...
Oh brother, most of the comments on that pillock's article make my head hurt.
[spoiler]So let me get this straight, the "bad guy" in this movie isn't some crazy, giant robot, or a even a crazy mutant of some sort, but is just a woman... who lives in a high rise apartment. Wow. Great work Hollywood. You really pulled it all out for this one. [/spoiler]
Where to start...
And yet again I spoiler tag instead of quote.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
If you ever need evidence that Alex Jones and his cohorts are idiots -or pretend to be- look no further:
New Judge Dredd May Be Most Despicable Superhero Yet:
http://www.infowars.com/new-judge-dredd-may-be-most-despicable-superhero-yet/
She seems so much more blandly congenial hosting
The One Show.
She thought the film sounded cool and wanted to write about it, so she had to diffuse that through the prism of the paranoid nut-baggery her followers expect. I bet she accompanies all her 'likes' on facebook with similar screeds, detailing how the Nike swoosh is a sigil that softens your natural revulsion towards socialised healthcare and encourages paedophilia.
She's a prisoner of her schtick.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
If you ever need evidence that Alex Jones and his cohorts are idiots -or pretend to be- look no further:
New Judge Dredd May Be Most Despicable Superhero Yet:
http://www.infowars.com/new-judge-dredd-may-be-most-despicable-superhero-yet/
Previous slavering:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctTOzEFbXLU
wow. That's not even wrong!
Wait, you mean that Alex Jones??
In other news: Crazy guy on corner reveals Obama is brain eating cannibal. Opinion on Dredd movie forthcoming.
To be honest, the only thing that's massively wrong with that article (aside from 35 being "nearly 50") is that "the comics started off as satire but are now played straight", or words to that effect. If that were the case, I'd certainly not be reading Dredd anymore. I have always taken Dredd (and much of 2000AD's output, to be honest) to be one long protracted scream of "Americans- STOP! OR THIS WILL HAPPEN!".
My worry, on reading the script for the movie, was that the satire was almost entirely missing and we had a straightforward action movie that did indeed suggest that this future was inevitable and only "heroes" like the "elite cop" Dredd would be of any use. Some of that worry has been alleviated somewhat by the comments people have made since it premiered. Or "premiered", possibly. But there still seems to be an awful lot of "Whoa, it's really violent and action packed and Dredd rocks!" as opposed to "what a horrible place to live, Dredd's a bastard."- which is what I expect from a good adaptation of the strip.
The mere subject matter of the film and comic strip will always attract the criticism of people for whom this kind of thing is an appalling indication of how our culture is progressing. I'd much rather have this kind of mid-brow article- which will have a very small audience of people agreeing with it, who are not smart enough to check the facts or form their own opinions- than the inevitable Christopher Tookey 'Dredd' review... which I believe we should start a thread dedicated to right now, with a prize awarded to whoever gets the closest to its spittle-drenched madness, and which will reach millions of thickies.
SBT
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 19 July, 2012, 11:29:13 AM
To be honest, the only thing that's massively wrong with that article (aside from 35 being "nearly 50") is that "the comics started off as satire but are now played straight", or words to that effect. If that were the case, I'd certainly not be reading Dredd anymore. I have always taken Dredd (and much of 2000AD's output, to be honest) to be one long protracted scream of "Americans- STOP! OR THIS WILL HAPPEN!".
My worry, on reading the script for the movie, was that the satire was almost entirely missing and we had a straightforward action movie that did indeed suggest that this future was inevitable and only "heroes" like the "elite cop" Dredd would be of any use. Some of that worry has been alleviated somewhat by the comments people have made since it premiered. Or "premiered", possibly. But there still seems to be an awful lot of "Whoa, it's really violent and action packed and Dredd rocks!" as opposed to "what a horrible place to live, Dredd's a bastard."- which is what I expect from a good adaptation of the strip...
The words to that effect are: "..
.The initial comic may have started life as a satire, but by now the storyline is increasingly presented with deadly seriousness..." Those words are inaccurate of course, not only about where the story is now, but also about where it started; when you look back at the progs, the earlier stories, ( while they are not 'presented with deadly seriousness' ) are hardly satirical: they provide a comic-reading child with a '
guy in the future with a cool bike and gun who always gets the baddies' which is great, but no satire.
The satire crept in slowly, in increments.
Somebody on some Youtube vid* described the movie as 'an episode', which is a nice indicator of the Dredd film solidly establishing a franchise with legs, & If that comes to pass, then perhaps, ( as Dredd and his world develop in the minds of his new audience,) then the satire can develop too.
For me, the '
Peach Trees' script always read like the '
Judge Whitey' story from prog : it establishes a future-cop ( with a cool gun and bike ) up against some low-level creeps: that's all you need to know to begin with...I reckon that the satire should come in slowly as it did in the script: –
because
"one long protracted scream of "Americans- STOP! OR THIS WILL HAPPEN!" in the first Dredd film would probably come across as preachy and, ( in the genre of dystopian sci-fi,) completely unoriginal, at the moment.
I think of Dredd as episode one, and I think if we get more movies we will get more satire, ( the creative team have shown such a solid grasp of what makes Judge Dredd work so far I don't think it's overly-optimistic to presume that that's the intention ).
If we do, then it's gonna be subtle: subtle is best, I reckon.
It might not come across especially strongly in that article, but Jones is a conspiracy nut with a questionable grip on reality. Not quite shape-changing-lizard grade, but getting there. His "review" may even boost ticket-sales slightly, as his followers scrutinise Dredd for any Illuminati symbolism.
I'm sure this John Wagner interview has been posted but I haven't seen
it [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-poxzZW1rQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/url:]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-poxzZW1rQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-poxzZW1rQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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Quote from: Syne on 19 July, 2012, 01:46:15 PM
It might not come across especially strongly in that article, but Jones is a conspiracy nut with a questionable grip on reality. Not quite shape-changing-lizard grade, but getting there. His "review" may even boost ticket-sales slightly, as his followers scrutinise Dredd for any Illuminati symbolism.
Jones didn't right it, but it was chosen for his site.
or rather "write it".
Rotten Tomatoes reviews have jumped to 8, and it's still at 100%. :D
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 20 July, 2012, 08:26:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-poxzZW1rQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-poxzZW1rQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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WOW.Thanks for that.Great interview.Just as a few of us thought ,he didn't tell the powers that be exactly where he was going with DoC, so maybe their still in shock :o :lol:.I think the new writers still need to get to grip and feel for the new reality he's created.It is like Dredd has been rebooted.
Very pleased to here the guy behind Drive is involved with Buttonman ,an excellent film, bodes very well indeed for the future.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 19 July, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
If you ever need evidence that Alex Jones and his cohorts are idiots -or pretend to be- look no further:
New Judge Dredd May Be Most Despicable Superhero Yet:
http://www.infowars.com/new-judge-dredd-may-be-most-despicable-superhero-yet/
Previous slavering:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctTOzEFbXLU
Is infowars a euphemism for tinfoil hat bullshit JFK conspiracy theorists
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Is infowars a euphemism for tinfoil hat bullshit JFK conspiracy theorists
No, they
are tinfoil hat bullshit JFK conspiracy theorists.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 20 July, 2012, 05:32:35 PM
Very pleased to here the guy behind Drive is involved with Buttonman ,an excellent film, bodes very well indeed for the future.
I didn't realise Winding-Refn had gone after the film, thought it had just been offered to him as a possibility. Interesting :P Ryan Gosling as Harry Exton seems more likely now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpomfH2QOU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpomfH2QOU)
Karl Urban Collider interview
http://www.comediva.com/judge-andersons-fashion-tips
Anderson's getting a thumbs up from the feminists.
This may be a bit of an esoteric observation but my personal feeling is that the Dredd movie will help spearhead the incipient backlash against the Chainmail Bikini trope in fantasy and sci-fi and get a lot more girls into playing video games n' shit.
Yes. One film will do that.
Honestly though, this really is Anderson's story and she's no damsel either. To quote Fink:"Mega-City Judge wimmin is tough".
It seems we had more to say when we had nothing to see.
Here's a question then: Do you suppose the circumstances of yesterday's tragic events in Denver are likely to sour the reception of an ultra-violent comic-book-film due in cinemas this September?
No.
I say nay.
No, but no doubt somebody will use it in an 'anti-comics/films/games' rant.
Quote from: darnmarr on 21 July, 2012, 12:14:13 PM
Here's a question then: Do you suppose the circumstances of yesterday's tragic events in Denver are likely to sour the reception of an ultra-violent comic-book-film due in cinemas this September?
We'll see. For all the talk about satire, DREDD doesn't exactly wear that on its shoulder in the movie. Something about the Alex Jones "review" made me a little uneasy in that to anyone unfamiliar with the strip, Dredd's a tough sell.
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 21 July, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
No, but no doubt somebody will use it in an 'anti-comics/films/games' rant.
They already have.
Daily Mail:
The Dark Knight cinema massacre may have been inspired by a Batman comic book strip, it emerged on Friday.
The bloodbath is a chilling copycat of a 25-year-old Batman comic strip which features a deranged gunman opening fire in a cinema.
In the second issue of The Dark Knight Returns, written by Frank Miller - the creative mind behind Sin City and 300 - gunman Arnold Crimp opens fire in a pornographic theatre, killing three people, after listening to Led Zepplin's classic track 'Stairway to Heaven.'
Text from the page reads: 'Arnold Crimp fingers the cold steel thing in his pocket and stares at the movie marquee and does not throw up.
'He thinks about Led Zeppelin and how they are trying to kill him.
'He had not known about Led Zeppelin until Father Don on TV had explained it last night.
'Father Don said that Led Zeppelin hid a prayer to Satan in their song Stairway to Heaven.
'They hid it very well. They recorded it backwards.
'Arnold Crimp took the album from the record store where he worked until they fired him this afternoon and transferred Stairway to Heaven to tape.
'Then he played the tape backwards. He played it forty-seven times until he was absolutely certain that Father Don was right.'
Crimp then walks into a cinema, which is screening a pornographic film called My Sweet Satan, and opens fire.
Holmes motives behind the massacre are unknown, but if he was a fan of the Batman comics, then he may well have read the issue featuring Crimp's killing-spree.
The comic itself is still in print, and on Friday it was available in several Waterstones' book shops, priced £12.99.
Ah jesus, Daily Fail strikes again. It's sad when you can predict almost exactly what a newspaper will run, and extra sad when they trawl all the way back to The Dark Knight Returns to find it.
It's weird that the last line in that article seems to be trying to sell the comic! "Oh and it's available from all good book stores priced £12.99!"
Quote from: Misanthrope on 21 July, 2012, 02:50:22 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 21 July, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
No, but no doubt somebody will use it in an 'anti-comics/films/games' rant.
They already have.
Daily Mail:
The Dark Knight cinema massacre may have been inspired by a Batman comic book strip . . .
I don't think I've made it beyond the first chapter of THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS so I had to search online to read the page in question. As far as I can tell, it ends with a Gotham City news report stating 'Three slain in Batman-inspired porn theatre shoot-out'. A punchline, yes? About the Dark Knight being scapegoated by the media for the killings?
That's just a mad loony daily mail article not about anything: what I'm worried more about is the general zeitgeist amongst the american target audience: will something so horrible and unprecedented and shocking happening to a cinema audience, for a Batman film, change what people want to see from the genre?
I don't know what the atmosphere is like in the U.S. at the moment, and I've even less idea what it'll be like in September, but I imagine 'Bullets coming right at you in 3D' doesn't have the same appeal today as it might've had a week ago.
Quote from: darnmarr on 21 July, 2012, 08:46:18 PM
That's just a mad loony daily mail article not about anything: what I'm worried more about is the general zeitgeist amongst the american target audience: will something so horrible and unprecedented and shocking happening to a cinema audience, for a Batman film, change what people want to see from the genre?
I don't know what the atmosphere is like in the U.S. at the moment, and I've even less idea what it'll be like in September, but I imagine 'Bullets coming right at you in 3D' doesn't have the same appeal today as it might've had a week ago.
people are rightfully shocked by what happened in Colorado, but if columbine (or any other mass shooting) didn't change the Americans attitude to guns and violence it's unlikely this will..
I don't think Dredd or any other violent movie will be affected by this.. depressingly people will have forgotten about in a weeks time
Quote from: NSFTM on 21 July, 2012, 08:52:58 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 21 July, 2012, 08:46:18 PM
That's just a mad loony daily mail article not about anything: what I'm worried more about is the general zeitgeist amongst the american target audience: will something so horrible and unprecedented and shocking happening to a cinema audience, for a Batman film, change what people want to see from the genre?
I don't know what the atmosphere is like in the U.S. at the moment, and I've even less idea what it'll be like in September, but I imagine 'Bullets coming right at you in 3D' doesn't have the same appeal today as it might've had a week ago.
people are rightfully shocked by what happened in Colorado, but if columbine (or any other mass shooting) didn't change some Americans attitude to guns and violence it's unlikely this will..
I don't think Dredd or any other violent movie will be affected by this.. depressingly people will have forgotten about in a weeks time
I fixed that for you.
The situation with guns in America is a big and complicated topic, and not one I'm going to pretend to comprehend fully,- because I don't live there: what I'm wondering out loud about is 'This tragedy is bound to send shockwaves,- will it have an effect on the sort of things that cinema audiences subsequently want to see?': will there be a cultural 'swing' away from gritty gore-fest and more in the direction of light/fantasy without any of the (scarily prescient-seeming) baggage of a story like Dredd?
Quote from: darnmarr on 22 July, 2012, 12:39:18 AM
The situation with guns in America is a big and complicated topic, and not one I'm going to pretend to comprehend fully,- because I don't live there: what I'm wondering out loud about is 'This tragedy is bound to send shockwaves,- will it have an effect on the sort of things that cinema audiences subsequently want to see?': will there be a cultural 'swing' away from gritty gore-fest and more in the direction of light/fantasy without any of the (scarily prescient-seeming) baggage of a story like Dredd?
I don't think so. The people who were already complaining about violent movies/games/whatever will complain extra loudly for a while, but I very much doubt there will be any long-term effect on audiences.
The movie industry will make some minor cosmetic changes. They've already said they'll edit out the gun-fire from their
Dark Knight Rises trailers, and they're pulling/editing the
Gangster Squad trailer that actually features a gun-fight in a cinema. But the fact is, if violent traumatic incidents had that much of an impact on the media, we'd have all switched to rom-coms and inspirational flicks for a long time now.
Question for any cinema buffs: did 9-11 cause disaster movies to drop in popularity? (not a rhetorical question, I really don't know)
Interesting question: (I don't know either).
Quote from: Syne on 22 July, 2012, 01:13:05 AM
Quote from: darnmarr on 22 July, 2012, 12:39:18 AM
The situation with guns in America is a big and complicated topic, and not one I'm going to pretend to comprehend fully,- because I don't live there: what I'm wondering out loud about is 'This tragedy is bound to send shockwaves,- will it have an effect on the sort of things that cinema audiences subsequently want to see?': will there be a cultural 'swing' away from gritty gore-fest and more in the direction of light/fantasy without any of the (scarily prescient-seeming) baggage of a story like Dredd?
I don't think so. The people who were already complaining about violent movies/games/whatever will complain extra loudly for a while, but I very much doubt there will be any long-term effect on audiences.
The movie industry will make some minor cosmetic changes. They've already said they'll edit out the gun-fire from their Dark Knight Rises trailers, and they're pulling/editing the Gangster Squad trailer that actually features a gun-fight in a cinema. But the fact is, if violent traumatic incidents had that much of an impact on the media, we'd have all switched to rom-coms and inspirational flicks for a long time now.
Question for any cinema buffs: did 9-11 cause disaster movies to drop in popularity? (not a rhetorical question, I really don't know)
Well, Editing is certainly out of the question when it comes to the Dredd movie. Censorship in a time like this is always a short term fix which ultimately solves very little.
On a side note I think the helmet is beginning to look small to me as I become more used to seeing it. I say Bigger Helmets for sequel.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 22 July, 2012, 01:49:52 AM
Well, Editing is certainly out of the question when it comes to the Dredd movie. Censorship in a time like this is always a short term fix which ultimately solves very little.
Yeah, but then I haven't seen any mention of editing actual films: just
trailers for films.
Gangster Squad is an interesting case since, as I mentioned, there actually is a scene with dudes (hard to tell if they're baddies or goodies) firing tommy-guns
at the audience in a cinema. The trailers been pulled because of that, but presumably the scene is staying in the film.
I remember that after 9/11 scenes with Spidey leaping around the Twin Towers were edited out of the soon-to-be-released
Spiderman movie. There was even talk of digitally removing the towers from
every old movie, so as not to traumatise people :o . But I don't think that went any further than talk, and I don't think the event had any long-term effect on movies.
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I remember that after 9/11 scenes with Spidey leaping around the Twin Towers were edited out of the soon-to-be-released Spiderman movie. There was even talk of digitally removing the towers from every old movie, so as not to traumatise people
I would love to have seen how they would have done that in Escape from New York.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 22 July, 2012, 01:49:52 AM
I think the helmet is beginning to look small to me as I become more used to seeing it. I say Bigger Helmets for sequel.
OLD BIG 'EAD (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Fyq3_d12wBw/TmxTtaQIUsI/AAAAAAAAAN4/UwMJmFCDMQk/s1600/megaspecial89.jpg)'s helmet does seem to get bigger over time.
There will always be a period of sensitivity - films will get pulled from schedules, I remember after 9/11 showings of AI had a notice advising that it had scenes of the WTC collapsed.
Short-term studios would be nervous about things with falling people - I imagine Armageddon wasn't shown for a while, but eventually it becomes a reference point, Cloverfield probably being a prime example, or joked about (Team America)
Comic Book Therapy - Urban & Thirlby Roundtable Interview.
http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/sdcc-12-dredd-3d-interview-45428
Nice. This made me mentally scratch my head though:
QuoteYou never take off your helmet and you have to act with your eyes
Douglas Wolk of the Dredd Reckoning blog gave a little short reaction to Dredd in his latest entry...
http://dreddreviews.blogspot.ca/2012/07/judge-anderson-psychic-crime-files.html (http://dreddreviews.blogspot.ca/2012/07/judge-anderson-psychic-crime-files.html)
QuoteThis is the first blog entry I've written since I got to see the movie, and it's not clear whether I'm going to be writing about it elsewhere at some length, but the short version is: I liked it a lot. Generally terrific script, on-the-money performances, highly thrill-powered, extremely violent. Excellent use of both 3-D and slow-mo, i.e. things you can do in movies but not comics. For those of you wondering if it's comics-canonical: not 100%, but I wouldn't want it to be, either, and it's altered in ways that make it work better as a movie.*** And, to the extent that it is canon-congruent, it seems to be set a couple of months before Prog 2. How about that? Plus Karl Urban turns out to be a confirmed Squaxx.
Quote from: Syne on 22 July, 2012, 02:10:33 AM
I remember that after 9/11 scenes with Spidey leaping around the Twin Towers were edited out of the soon-to-be-released Spiderman movie.
I've still got the original trailer, started with a bank raid, bad guys escaping in a chopper, which gets stuck in something and the camera pans back to a huge web spun between the towers. So yeah, that was pulled and the film edited, unsurprisingly.
Quote from: Mudcrab on 23 July, 2012, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: Syne on 22 July, 2012, 02:10:33 AM
I remember that after 9/11 scenes with Spidey leaping around the Twin Towers were edited out of the soon-to-be-released Spiderman movie.
I've still got the original trailer, started with a bank raid, bad guys escaping in a chopper, which gets stuck in something and the camera pans back to a huge web spun between the towers. So yeah, that was pulled and the film edited, unsurprisingly.
Yeah and now that Gangster Squad reshoots their scenes cos of 'shooting in cinema' scene.
Douglas Wolk, who has a better handle on Dredd than anyone else who's seen the film so far, has posted a partial review on his excellent Dredd Reckoning blog. It's more very good news:
http://dreddreviews.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://dreddreviews.blogspot.co.uk/) (third paragraph down, underneath the blue 2000ad cover)
Yeah, apart from Blackmocco, Douglas is the first 'real' fan to report back - and he really knows his Dredd too. His enthusiastic endorsement is one of the best omens so far.
Quote from: bikini kill on 23 July, 2012, 06:05:03 PM
Douglas Wolk, who has a better handle on Dredd than anyone else who's seen the film so far
You mean even
more than John Wagner?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXj9lYuhEo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXj9lYuhEo)
That Xbox live footage, not great quality though.
Don't know if anyone has linked to this MTV clip.
Karl Urban Doesn't 'Give A Damn' About Stallone's Thoughts On 'Dredd'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crPggBOhG74&feature=relmfu
I've made comments on Youtube about the Stallone film being a kiddies film but I think I will go back and use Karl Urban's words:
"If you like your heroes wearing lycra and gold codpieces then his [Stallone's] film is the one for you."
SDCC2012 35th anniversary Judge Dredd panel.
part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK6-Gvex8N4
Part 2 with Urban & Thirlby. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j56RX0JBdXQ
Olivia Thirlby Interview - Bloody Disgusting.
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3155490/interview-olivia-thirlby-on-playing-a-psychic-and-the-violence-of-dredd/
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 24 July, 2012, 12:45:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXj9lYuhEo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaXj9lYuhEo)
That Xbox live footage, not great quality though.
Is it patronising to find it cute that Thirlby's feet didn't quite reach the ground when she was on the Lawmaster?
Movies.com - Karl Urban Talks 'Dredd 3D' and How it's Unlike the Dreadful 'Judge Dredd'
http://www.movies.com/movie-news/karl-urban-dredd-interview/8855
Quote from: CraveNoir on 24 July, 2012, 04:24:31 AM
SDCC2012 35th anniversary Judge Dredd panel.
part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK6-Gvex8N4
Has anyone seen that Weston Dredd page (3m 30s) before? It looks
insanely detailed. The main panel alone looks like it has more going on in it than his gatefold cover featuring every
2000ad character.
Quote from: bikini kill on 24 July, 2012, 08:30:57 PM
Has anyone seen that Weston Dredd page (3m 30s) before? It looks insanely detailed. The main panel alone looks like it has more going on in it than his gatefold cover featuring every 2000ad character.
At least part of that page is featured in the second part of the Chris Weston interview in this months Megazine. Great to see more Weston Dredd!
Hitfix - Olivia Thirlby talks 'badass' Anderson and keeping 'grit' of the comics alive
http://www.hitfix.com/news/dredd-star-olivia-thirlby-talks-badass-anderson-and-keeping-the-grit-of-the-comics-alive
411mania - Interviews: The Cast of Dredd
http://www.411mania.com/movies/columns/247882/411mania.com-Interviews:--The-Cast-of-Dredd.htm
Bloody Disgusting - Karl Urban On Going Back To The Comics And Not Taking The Helmet Off
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3155666/interview-karl-urban-on-going-back-to-the-comics-and-not-taking-the-helmet-off-for-dredd/
Movie Fanatic - Dredd Interview: Karl Urban Dishes Remake
http://www.moviefanatic.com/2012/07/dredd-interview-karl-urban-dishes-remake/
EMPIRE - Pete Travis On Dredd Controversy
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34712
The number of interviews that Karl and Olivia have made to date is mind -boggling, flying the flag for Dredd. Kudos to them.
GOing to take me a day to get through those links Crave. Nice finds :)
Collider - Olivia Thirlby Talks Playing a Bad Ass in DREDD
http://collider.com/olivia-thirlby-dredd-interview/183984/
SFX - Dredd Review
http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/07/30/dredd-review/
SciFiNow - Dredd 3D film review
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/reviews/dredd-3d-film-review/
Quote from: CraveNoir on 31 July, 2012, 06:01:16 AM
SciFiNow - Dredd 3D film review
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/reviews/dredd-3d-film-review/
Yet another great review! Hooray!
One thing thats noticeable in a lot of film reviews is that there is a fair bit of general 2000ad knowledge tucked in there.
Hey I was just wondering, is it possible to add these reviews to the IMDb page if you are just a standard user?
Submitted the SFX and Empire one as they weren't on there. Link to the SciFiNow one doesn't work anymore.
Comic News Insider, ep 424 - Urban & Thirlby interview at comic-con
http://www.jimmyaquino.typepad.com/comicnewsinsider/2012/07/episode-424-even-more-sdcc-w-karl-urbanolivia-thirlby-dredd-morgan-spurlock-and-saul-rubinekallison--1.html
Interview starts 28 minutes into the podcast.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 31 July, 2012, 05:41:17 PM
Link to the SciFiNow one doesn't work anymore.
Just asked 'em about that on Twitter -- seems they jumped the gun on an embargo and had to pull it. Not sure why they're under an embargo when a whole bunch of reviews have already been published, but they say the review will be "back soon".
Cheers
Jim
ECBT 2000ad - Spoiler-free Dredd movie review
http://2000ad.wordpress.com/2012/08/05/spoiler-free-dredd-movie-review/
... also on the writer's blog.
http://originaldogspunk.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/why-i-went-to-san-diego-for-comic-con.html
io9 - Karl Urban takes us step by step through the process of becoming Judge Dredd
http://io9.com/5932271/karl-urban-takes-us-step-by-step-through-the-process-of-becoming-judge-dredd
Video and partial transcript of the Urban roundtable interview from comic-con.
Comic Book - Total Recall and Dredd With IMDb's Keith Simanton
http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/08/07/total-recall-and-dredd-with-imdbs-keith-simanton/
Quote from: CraveNoir on 08 August, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
Comic Book - Total Recall and Dredd With IMDb's Keith Simanton
http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/08/07/total-recall-and-dredd-with-imdbs-keith-simanton/
That's a really *odd* article - they don't appear to actually say anything ...
The Managing Director of IMDB said Dredd was his favourite comic book movie this year, above The Avengers, Dark Knight Rises and Spiderman. That's something!
Yeah it is a bit weird - I thought it was going to be an in-depth analysis of Dredd's box office prospects.
At least the guy loved the movie, though!
Sorry, I read the interview back to front. The comicbook.com guy was plugging Dredd to the IMDB guy, not the other way round.
Comic Book Movie - Olivia Thirlby audio interview
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/scifimediazone/news/?a=65616
Saw this on Yahoo's UK frontpage, Nothing new but more people reached.
http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-editors/judge-dredd-film-more-honest-stallone-version-101504372.html
Starburst Mag's Review - 8/10
http://www.starburstmagazine.com/reviews/movie-reviewsthe-latest-releases-reviewed/3231-movie-review-dredd-3d
Forbes article on 2000ad Snub in Trailer http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/08/21/2000-ad-comic-book-is-snubbed-in-latest-dredd-3d-trailer/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/08/21/2000-ad-comic-book-is-snubbed-in-latest-dredd-3d-trailer/)
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 21 August, 2012, 08:25:39 PM
Forbes article on 2000ad Snub in Trailer http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/08/21/2000-ad-comic-book-is-snubbed-in-latest-dredd-3d-trailer/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/08/21/2000-ad-comic-book-is-snubbed-in-latest-dredd-3d-trailer/)
Snub? Or is it just a corporate news angle to get the story in
Forbes, since she's a fangirl?
Quote from: bikini kill on 21 August, 2012, 08:48:40 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 21 August, 2012, 08:25:39 PM
Forbes article on 2000ad Snub in Trailer http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/08/21/2000-ad-comic-book-is-snubbed-in-latest-dredd-3d-trailer/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/08/21/2000-ad-comic-book-is-snubbed-in-latest-dredd-3d-trailer/)
Snub? Or is it just a corporate news angle to get the story in Forbes, since she's a fangirl?
News angle yes, but publicity for 2000ad.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 21 August, 2012, 08:25:39 PM
Forbes article on 2000ad Snub in Trailer
I don't understand the Americans' apparent failure to basic arithmetic when it comes to 2000AD. "It costs $20 per month when a standard US comic costs $3.99"
Yes, but for that twenty bucks, you'll get ONE HUNDRED FUCKING PAGES OF STRIP, you FUCKING MORON.
Aaaaaaand... relax.
Cheers
Jim
4 issues of 2000AD every month is the equivalent of 5 standard US comics but better written.
Yeah, but they're only reading it for dredd, not the (hrrn, calm down steev) "back-up strips", so it's only 24 pages of what they want.
Im going off for a little swear now.
SBT
I think you're being a bit unfair to the Forbes article. The writer is obviously a genuine fan who reads the comic and she urges people to 'check it out'.
Quote from: Lee Bates on 22 August, 2012, 08:12:50 AM
I think you're being a bit unfair to the Forbes article. The writer is obviously a genuine fan who reads the comic and she urges people to 'check it out'.
Balls. Why
would anyone 'check it out' when she's telling people that 2000AD costs five times as much as a US comic and neglecting to mention that for that money you get
five times as much strip. That's not being a fan, that's being an idiot.
Edit to add: I notice that she acknowledges this point, as made by Joe Soap, in the comments section, but this doesn't change the fact that she presents a completely cretinous argument about the cost of 2000AD compared to US titles in the main article.
Bah.
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 August, 2012, 08:21:58 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 22 August, 2012, 08:12:50 AM
I think you're being a bit unfair to the Forbes article. The writer is obviously a genuine fan who reads the comic and she urges people to 'check it out'.
Balls. Why would anyone 'check it out' when she's telling people that 2000AD costs five times as much as a US comic and neglecting to mention that for that money you get five times as much strip. That's not being a fan, that's being an idiot.
NO, YOU ARE BALLS.
Yeah, fair enough, she makes a ridiculous comment about the price but she is still obviously a fan. She has a bit of a point too. It would be nice to see a 2000 AD logo somewhere in the marketing for the film. Even just a little one.
Quote from: Lee Bates on 22 August, 2012, 08:42:20 AM
NO, YOU ARE BALLS.
That was unnecessarily
--ahem-- terse on my part. Apologies. It was early, and I was tetchy, and there was no need for it.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 August, 2012, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: Lee Bates on 22 August, 2012, 08:42:20 AM
NO, YOU ARE BALLS.
That was unnecessarily --ahem-- terse on my part. Apologies. It was early, and I was tetchy, and there was no need for it.
Cheers
Jim
No bother.
Total film have posted their review now. They have removed a star since the reaction one (so three stars now), and have brought up comparisons to the raid.
http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/dredd
It really is pissing me off that they are using similarities as a negative. If the Raid is so good, then so is Dredd.
I should have added 'by that logic'
That review has a ring of 'desperate-to-be-negative-but-cant-find-much-to-be-negative-about' to it.
Tut tut, Total Film! ::)
A barrage of 'mainstream' press reviews will be coming along very soon.
I look forward to the Daily Mail's review.
Haha, yeah. Was it them that put a caption under one of the scenes in the trailer (the bit where Dredd pushes someone out of a window) as 'Here is Dredd pushing himself out of a window backwards.'
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 27 August, 2012, 06:27:44 PM
I look forward to the Daily Mail's review.
Bloody Chris Tookey!
Kick-Ass - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1262948/Kick-Ass-Dont-fooled-hype--This-crime-cinema-twisted-cynical-revels-abuse-childhood.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1262948/Kick-Ass-Dont-fooled-hype--This-crime-cinema-twisted-cynical-revels-abuse-childhood.html)
Quote from: darnmarr on 27 August, 2012, 02:28:12 PM
That review has a ring of 'desperate-to-be-negative-but-cant-find-much-to-be-negative-about' to it.
To be honest, I think the review reads far more positively by the end than either the star rating, or the first few paragraphs, would lead you to expect.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Goaty on 27 August, 2012, 07:13:14 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 27 August, 2012, 06:27:44 PM
I look forward to the Daily Mail's review.
Bloody Chris Tookey!
Kick-Ass - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1262948/Kick-Ass-Dont-fooled-hype--This-crime-cinema-twisted-cynical-revels-abuse-childhood.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1262948/Kick-Ass-Dont-fooled-hype--This-crime-cinema-twisted-cynical-revels-abuse-childhood.html)
Yeah that why.
Quote from: Goaty on 27 August, 2012, 07:13:14 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 27 August, 2012, 06:27:44 PM
I look forward to the Daily Mail's review.
Bloody Chris Tookey!
Kick-Ass - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1262948/Kick-Ass-Dont-fooled-hype--This-crime-cinema-twisted-cynical-revels-abuse-childhood.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1262948/Kick-Ass-Dont-fooled-hype--This-crime-cinema-twisted-cynical-revels-abuse-childhood.html)
And THAT review reads like 'hit-girl' character gave the reviewer the horn.
I don't remember seeing this one before now. It's a good one:
http://www.dreadcentral.com/reviews/dredd-2012
Now that's good review!
http://www.craveonline.com/film/reviews/192005-comic-con-2012-review-dredd-3d (http://www.craveonline.com/film/reviews/192005-comic-con-2012-review-dredd-3d)
Not sure if this one has been posted before:
http://io9.com/5925364/dredd-is-a-brutal-action-flick-with-both-a-high-body-count-and-a-brain
Strong in this thread, the deja vu is.
(Seriously, folks: there were about ten post-SDCC reviews, and they were all linked early in this thread. Check the date of reviews you're posting; if it's on or around 12th July, or if the review refers to SDCC, then it's been posted.)
Cheers
Jim
Is it just me, or is Dredd getting a lot of glowing reviews with curiously (misleadingly) low ratings attached?
Both the Empire and Total Film reviews read like four stars, but actually gave 3 - and that Crave Online review:
QuoteDredd hits that perfect sweet spot of filmmakers isolating an audience and totally serving that audience. I hope sci-fi fans will appreciate this as a throwback, an homage or just damn awesome.
I mean, does that sound like a 7.5/10 film?
Maybe they are hedging thier bets? They really enjoyed it but are aware that when the more mainstream reviews start pouring in they don't want to be seen to have been overly enthusiatic about it maybe? A 3 star review or a 7 out of 10 is a good middle ground for saying both 'We told you it was great' or alternatively 'Yeah it sucked but with a few good bits'.
A good Review,
Its in foreign!
ish.
http://www.accioncine.net/reportajes/accion-reviews/1588-dredd-3d-xxxx%20x.html (http://www.accioncine.net/reportajes/accion-reviews/1588-dredd-3d-xxxx%20x.html)
Another 1
http://www.accioncine.net/reportajes/accion-reviews/1585-dredd-3d-.html (http://www.accioncine.net/reportajes/accion-reviews/1585-dredd-3d-.html)
The most pleasantly surprising thing about Dredd is the sheer lack of bad or less-than-positive reviews it's received thus far... when's the last time that happened with a genre - ANY genre - film? With such strong word-of-mouth and highly (near-unanimous) positive buzz, I have a real confidence about Dredd's prospects at the global box-office... if it equals the 1995 debacle in overall numbers (17 years of inflationary monetary increase taken into consideration), it's going to be a resounding success...
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 August, 2012, 07:17:33 AM
Strong in this thread, the deja vu is.
(Seriously, folks: there were about ten post-SDCC reviews, and they were all linked early in this thread. Check the date of reviews you're posting; if it's on or around 12th July, or if the review refers to SDCC, then it's been posted.)
Cheers
Jim
Fair enough, though I see no problem in re-posting a link to a good review that's been posted before. There are 20 pages to wade through here....
Quote from: MattJW on 30 August, 2012, 04:34:12 PM
Fair enough, though I see no problem in re-posting a link to a good review that's been posted before. There are 20 pages to wade through here....
There's very little in the way of links to actual reviews of the film after Pg5. Near as I can figure, if it didn't come out off the back of the SDCC screening, it's embargoed until release. (At least, that seems to be what kiboshed the SciFi Now review that appeared, then disappeared, a couple of weeks ago.)
Cheers
Jim
Is it possible to update first post with all reviews?
Bloody Disgusting - 'Dredd' Jam-Packed With Blissful, Off-The-Wall Violence!
http://bloody-disgusting.com/reviews/3189403/bd-review-dredd-jam-packed-with-blissful-off-the-wall-violence/
CNET UK - Dredd 3D brings Judge Dredd to the screen in style
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/dredd-3d-brings-judge-dredd-to-the-screen-in-style-50009012/
Dredd.Empire podcast
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=35050
4 out of 5 in The Star On Sunday, reviewer Andy Lee calling it" The coolest comic book movie of the year".
The Empire podcast is an interview with Urban rather than a review, which will come next week. The guy who wrote the Empire print review is the guy who hosts the podcast, so it's likely to be a largely positive recommend.
It's a great podcast, that.
SciFiNow - extended version of the current print mag review.
http://www.scifinow.co.uk/reviews/dredd-3d-movie-review/
Ace! Still no negatives.
I do think the Raid comparisons are mostly irrelevant, and it's disappointing to see so many critics going down this route.
It's true that there are one or two striking similarities in the premise of both films but in terms of plot and action they're vastly different. The Raid is first and foremost a Martial Arts movie, and exists very much in that world, whereas Dredd is a different beast. In terms of script, world-building and characterisation there is really no contest.
Also, I don't like that the Raid instantly gets the favour, most likely due to it being low budget and foreign (and released first). Yes it was a good film, but the fight scenes were irritatingly long. It is an over hyped film. What I am enjoying seeing with Dredd is that everyone seems really surprised it is good, which works better for positive buzz I think.
Yeah, The Raid is a great little film, but somewhat overhyped. There is some great choreography in the fight scenes, but as I said it's very much a martial arts movie - that sort of highly-staged action would have been completely out of place in Dredd - I really don't think the direct comparison between the two stands up.
Hollywood Reporter review is in. And they likee!!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/dredd-3d-film-review-367477
This is great stuff. The kind of reviews it needs to get bums on seats...
it surprises me that everyone who has anything to say about the dredd movie automatically compares it to the Raid, it would seem that the entire internet and main stream press have seen it.. which is weird for a film that only took 4 million at the US box office and i imagine considerably less in the UK
one would think they have 'heard' is was like the Raid and just perpetuated it
Relatively speaking, The Raid was a blockbuster by arthouse/independent standards. And chances are most critics did see it, in fairness.
It's not the worst thing in the world. It might actually convince a lot of people who loved The Raid to check out Dredd, or convince people who missed The Raid to check out Dredd instead. :P
That Hollywood Reported review is great, very balanced with a lot of constructive criticisms and the writer seems to have actually done a bit of research into the source material. Comparisons to Die Hard, District 9 and 28 Days Later... sounds good to me!
Quote from: blackmocco on 02 September, 2012, 09:58:39 PM
Hollywood Reporter review is in. And they likee!!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/dredd-3d-film-review-367477
This is great stuff. The kind of reviews it needs to get bums on seats...
Ace! Though [spoiler]the bit where they say that Anderson not having a helmet is a plot hole isn't actually correct.[/spoiler]
Well... [spoiler]it calls it a 'contrivance'... which it kinda is, it's dealt with, but the explanation given doesn't convince this reviewer who chooses to believe that the 'real' reason for Anderson's bare noggin is to give the audience Anderson's face to look at. They have a point I guess, and yet they miss the point: that point being it's only a film.[/spoiler]
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/22515/dredd-review
Decent review. They quite liked it with some caveats. 3/5.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/dredd-3d-brings-judge-dredd-to-the-screen-in-style-50009012/#comment-submit
Cnet liked it, kinda. The real highlight of this one is that everyone's favorite critic from these boards has posted his opinion about a movie he hasn't seen yet in the comments section.
There's this too: http://www.cine-vue.com/2012/09/film-review-dredd-3d.html
Don't know if covered already but Mark Kermode is watching the film today
@KermodeMovie: Morning. Today's screening highlights include Dredd 3D (surely 'Dreddd'?) and Anna Karenina. Off we go ...
Hey U Guys
http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/09/03/dredd-3d-review/
Red Carpet News TV
http://www.redcarpetnewstv.com/dredd-3d-review/
Today must be embargo day - Den of Geek review is going up later.
Amazing stuff, the good reviews keep on coming. I didn't dare to dream it would get quite this strong a critical reception. How many does it need to be certified fresh on RT?
Quote from: blackmocco on 03 September, 2012, 07:14:28 AM
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/22515/dredd-review
Decent review. They quite liked it with some caveats. 3/5.
"Dredd is the kind of comic-book movie that they weren't supposed to be making anymore. Luckily for us, someone decided to ignore that."
That's a pretty good summation.
DIY
http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/articles/film/dredd/
I just listened to Karl Urban on the Empire podcast - he must have mentioned Alex Garland fifty times, and then we get "...and of course we mustn't forget the amazing work of..." at which point I was expecting to hear Pete Travis. No, "...our oscar winning DP, Alex Dodd Mantle."
Oops, just saw the DoG link. Not bad, another 3/5 that reads like a 4/5, while conversely the HeyUguys review is the other way round.
The List:QuoteThe latest 2000AD adaptation packs a mean punch... Urban is good value, if deliberately one dimensional, Thirlby excels and the film itself does more than enough to warrant future adventures.
3/5
http://film.list.co.uk/article/45130-dredd/ (http://film.list.co.uk/article/45130-dredd/)
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 03 September, 2012, 09:30:50 AM
I just listened to Karl Urban on the Empire podcast - he must have mentioned Alex Garland fifty times, and then we get "...and of course we mustn't forget the amazing work of..." at which point I was expecting to hear Pete Travis. No, "...our oscar winning DP, Alex Dodd Mantle."
I'm not going to speculate on a public forum, but I think it's pretty easy at this point to draw some interesting conclusions as to exactly what happened on the Dredd set. Perhaps when the dust has settled we'll find out for sure.
Fanatical about Film in a Perfect Way
http://rebeccaperfectfilmpresenter.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/he-is-the-law-he-is-judge-dredd-in-3d-no-less/
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Glenn Broadway on 03 September, 2012, 09:30:50 AM
I just listened to Karl Urban on the Empire podcast - he must have mentioned Alex Garland fifty times, and then we get "...and of course we mustn't forget the amazing work of..." at which point I was expecting to hear Pete Travis. No, "...our oscar winning DP, Alex Dodd Mantle."
I'm not going to speculate on a public forum, but I think it's pretty easy at this point to draw some interesting conclusions as to exactly what happened on the Dredd set. Perhaps when the dust has settled we'll find out for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtJnbWZ2cQE&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtJnbWZ2cQE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
From 04:10
If you replace the name Mark with Pete (Travis) in this interview for Never Let Me Go, then I think you get the picture that the DNA guys really do have a definitive method of working with directors. It seems as though the approach is closer to the way TV producers have a vision for the direction they want to take, and hire the director to bring that vision to life. In the case of Dredd Alex Garland was always the person with the clearest view of how it should work. Travis must have known this from the outset.
The Hollywood News:QuoteAt its heart DREDD is a brilliant character study that presents a refreshingly grimy and questionable type of hero, and proves a credible alternative to the Marvel monopoly. Urban's performance as Dredd is commanding and iconic, and will more than make up for any aesthetic quibbles the fanboys may have. Whilst the film doesn't do everything right it's still a must see for any fan. This is no holds barred action and gore – an enticing watch that'll leave you wanting to see more from the Dredd franchise.
3 stars (presumably out of 5, but the website design doesn't really make it clear).
http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/2012/09/03/dredd-3d-review/ (http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/2012/09/03/dredd-3d-review/)
So many of these reviews read really positive which is good, but then they lack any conviction and just give three stars. (which is still good yeah, but it's pretty vague.) Give it a extra star ya bastards!
Yeah, it is a little frustrating. I suppose three stars is very subjective - it can mean 'disappointing/average' or (as seems to be the case with Dredd) 'solid/enjoyable'. All depends on the film and the context.
The important thing to note is that nearly every single review of Dredd so far reads very positive, with even the three star ones requesting a sequel.
Quote from: radiator on 03 September, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
The important thing to note is that nearly every single review of Dredd so far reads very positive, with even the three star ones requesting a sequel.
I don't think I've read a single one that you could characterise as a 'bad' review. The closest thing was the post-SDCC reaction piece on Bleeding Cool, and that wasn't a proper review and the worst thing they had to say was that they didn't
love the movie.
Cheers
Jim
Well, wait for Chris Tookey of Daily Mail this Friday, he don't like "Comic" "Violence" and "Sci-Fi"
There have been to my count two or three reviews you might catergorise as lukewarm, but nothing outright negative, no.
QuoteWell, wait for Chris Tookey of Daily Mail this Friday, he don't like "Comic" "Violence" and "Sci-Fi"
If the Daily Mail hate it, I'll take that as a seal of quality.
Daily Star
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/film/view/270448/Dredd-3D-review-and-trailer/
Quote from: CraveNoir on 03 September, 2012, 01:40:48 PM
Daily Star
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/film/view/270448/Dredd-3D-review-and-trailer/
Very impressable review, from Daily Star????
11 Fresh on RT now, and a 7.1 average rating. Still got that SciFiNow review to go back up on there too!
Wait for the more mainstream reviews to appear, and it'll start to drop. Great that it's still at 100% though, I realistically expect it to end up about the 60-70% mark.
That Daily Star review is pretty good, but so weirdly written in tiny paragraphs, like it's assembled from telegrams or tweets!
QuoteWait for the more mainstream reviews to appear, and it'll start to drop. Great that it's still at 100% though, I realistically expect it to end up about the 60-70% mark.
I don't think it'll drop that dramatically - probably levelling out at around 80%. It's got enough artistic merit to get the broadsheets on board, but enough thrills to cater to the tabloids.
http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/review/dredd.php (http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/review/dredd.php)
4/5
Guardian loved it! Awesome!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/sep/03/dredd-judge-alex-garland-pete-travis?newsfeed=true
Quote from: blackmocco on 03 September, 2012, 04:47:25 PM
Guardian loved it! Awesome!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/sep/03/dredd-judge-alex-garland-pete-travis?newsfeed=true
We get mentioned in it!
"So far, the response from Dredd fans that have seen the film has been very positive," Garland told me afterwards. "But actually, they were supportive of the film from day one. I read the 2000 AD message board throughout the production, and always felt they were on our side."
I don't expect RT to stay at 100% either but anything above 75% is a fucking miracle I never thought I'd see. A high-octane DREDD movie that critics have something positive to say about.
Quote from: Steve Green on 03 September, 2012, 03:53:57 PM
http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/review/dredd.php (http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/review/dredd.php)
4/5
Interesting one there Steve. The reviewer,
Ali, gives it a nice, positive review but look at what he wrote almost exactly 2 years ago:
The new Judge Dredd movie has a new cast, a new title and a synopsis, yet it still sounds thoroughly unbearable. You can practically hear the critics writing up their 'Dredd-ful' puns already. Like I am.
Why do we have to pretend Judge Dredd is absolutely a character that has to be in a popular movie?The only way I'll entertain Judge Dredd in a movie is he if makes a cameo in Yogi Bear and vapourises Boo-Boo. http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/news/new-judge-dredd-movie-renamed-dredd-is-still-ridiculous.php
QuoteIt is a long way from the over-the-top, Paul Verhoevenesque sci-fi satire one might have expected, but what it lacks in larger-than-life villains – a staple of the comics – and futuristic silliness (there are no fatties or mutants to be seen) it makes up for with elegant cinematography and cerebellum-twisting special effects.
Must try harder, The Guardian.
Screen Daily:
QuoteAn action movie with confidence, style and unapologetic brawn, Dredd, much like its blunt protagonist, doesn't invest a lot of energy in oblique sketching of motivation, or playing coy. An adaptation of the popular British comic book focusing on the justice-dispensing character of the same name, this dystopian neo-noir unfolds as a full-frontal assault on the senses, while also carving out enough of a personality to establish a beachhead as a potential franchise for distributor Lionsgate.
http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/the-latest/dredd/5046001.article?blocktitle=The-Latest&contentID=592 (http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/the-latest/dredd/5046001.article?blocktitle=The-Latest&contentID=592)
Quote from: blackmocco on 03 September, 2012, 04:47:25 PM
Guardian loved it! Awesome!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/sep/03/dredd-judge-alex-garland-pete-travis?newsfeed=true
Excellent!
Screen Geek:QuoteDredd is very much the adaptation the character deserves – a violent, intense and exciting ride, not afraid to be the tough action film it needed to be.
http://www.screengeek.co.uk/reviews/article/dredd (http://www.screengeek.co.uk/reviews/article/dredd)
Oh, and that's a 4/5.
London Film Fanatiq
http://londonfilmfanatiq.com/2012/09/03/dredd/
Lionsgate should really check out this thread, great source for lots of great reviews! 8.5/10 from that one CN just posted.
Another good review, this time from Den of Geek. "Dredd is the kind of comic-book movie that they weren't supposed to be making anymore. Luckily for us, someone decided to ignore that." 3 Stars. (Or as one comment points out "a 3 star review that reads like 4 stars.")
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd22515/dredd-review
Stew.
That wasn't the official Guardian review. Often, the review and the feature can differ quite a bit in terms of positivity!
I'm seeing it in just under 5 days. Mad :o
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 02 September, 2012, 01:21:39 PM
4 out of 5 in The Star On Sunday, reviewer Andy Lee calling it" The coolest comic book movie of the year".
...and now it's being used as a poster quote! :lol:
SFX - same as the current print mag
http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/09/03/dredd-review/
My review. http://hiexcomics.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/dredd-3d-review.html
5 star review that man.
Quote from: judgefett on 03 September, 2012, 09:15:28 PM
5 star review that man.
Could it be anything else..?
Hey - listened to your CD today. drokking great stuff, man!
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 03 September, 2012, 08:40:48 PM
My review. http://hiexcomics.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/dredd-3d-review.html
Very good review, and agreed with it!
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 03 September, 2012, 09:18:40 PM
Quote from: judgefett on 03 September, 2012, 09:15:28 PM
5 star review that man.
Could it be anything else..?
Hey - listened to your CD today. drokking great stuff, man!
Dredd track coming soon mate..
What Culture - "Fast-Paced, Violent and Simply Efficient"
http://whatculture.com/film/dredd-review-fast-paced-violent-and-simply-efficient.php
What Culture - 10 Reasons Why Dredd 3D Is Better Than Judge Dredd
http://whatculture.com/film/10-reasons-why-dredd-3d-is-better-than-judge-dredd.php
Quote from: CraveNoir on 04 September, 2012, 08:52:13 AM
What Culture - 10 Reasons Why Dredd 3D Is Better Than Judge Dredd
http://whatculture.com/film/10-reasons-why-dredd-3d-is-better-than-judge-dredd.php
Beware that one, fine piece though it is - it's
monstrously spoilerific. Many things I learned, which now can not forget. :ssh:
New Zealand Herald - Reviewers Rave About 'Ultra-Violent' Dredd:QuoteA movie reboot of Judge Dredd starring Kiwi actor Karl Urban is getting rave reviews ahead of its New Zealand release.
Dredd, a reboot of the comic book law enforcement character who made his movie debut with Sylvester Stallone's failed 1995 attempt, has received overwhelmingly positive reviews ahead of its worldwide premiere later this month.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10831628 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10831628)
MCM Buzz - Passing Judgement on Dredd:QuoteFrom top to bottom the film is a gory, action packed, hyper-violent thing of beauty that has the potential of becoming a cult classic. Yes there are going to be many comparisons to movies like The Raid, but for me Dredd works better as a film.
http://www.mcmbuzz.com/2012/09/03/dredd-review-passing-judgement-on-dredd/ (http://www.mcmbuzz.com/2012/09/03/dredd-review-passing-judgement-on-dredd/)
(A) Musings:QuoteThe soundtrack is a terrific bass laden score that is as close to melody as earth hitting mud. Combined with the subdued production design that uses blandness as a strength and cinematography that is allowed free reign to embellish and you have what amounts to a focus, streamlined and thoroughly enjoyable amusement ride.
4/5
http://wtfoosh.blogspot.com/2012/09/dredd-3d-movie-review.html (http://wtfoosh.blogspot.com/2012/09/dredd-3d-movie-review.html)
Screen One:Quote2012 is turning out to be a very good year for action movies and the genre is something of a rebirth. Well you can add Dredd to the pile of must see action movies in 2012.
4/5
http://www.screen-one.net/2012/09/review-dredd.html (http://www.screen-one.net/2012/09/review-dredd.html)
4 more reviews added on RT. That's 15 Fresh now!
And it's standing at 7.3 on IMDb from 1,241 users (Could that many people have seen it already?). Everyone needs to 10 stars that mother after you've seen it.
"Dredd is a visceral ballet of unrelenting ultra violence to a level that hasn't been seen on screen since Robocop back in the 80's."
Now THAT'S a poster quote!
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 04 September, 2012, 10:39:17 AM
And it's standing at 7.3 on IMDb from 1,241 users (Could that many people have seen it already?). Everyone needs to 10 stars that mother after you've seen it.
Just done exactly that -registered and given it a 10. Popular site, good call to get as many as possible to do the same once they've seen it.
Spread the Word.
Rotten Tomatoes has a 5 star rating system, do that one too!
My review is up on my blog and over at ECBT2000AD too http://2000ad.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/dredd-3d-fan-prerelease-screening-no-spoilers/
I also did a review on Vue's website, spoiler free so quite short.
Nice one Batking, I liked the line "I saw Dredd on Thursday, 30th August 2012" ;) There must be tonnes of quotables for the DVD cover now with all the good reviews coming in.
aintitcoolnews posted a review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58086
Quote from: blackmocco on 04 September, 2012, 04:29:49 PM
aintitcoolnews posted a review: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58086
Wow...
Someone on IMDB mentioned that he saw new TV Dredd 3D Advert with critic quotes.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58086 new review at IMDB... POSITIVE!
I have seen some websites with Dredd adverts playing in the ad banners with critic quotes. All really good of course.
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 05:21:15 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58086 new review at IMDB... POSITIVE!
The level of bile in the comments section is actually truly bizarre:is it always like that over there?
Yes.
Nerds are the worst.
Quote from: darnmarr on 04 September, 2012, 06:29:40 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 05:21:15 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58086 new review at IMDB... POSITIVE!
The level of bile in the comments section is actually truly bizarre:is it always like that over there?
Yep.I tried some reasoned arguments, but resigned myself to the fact that they are all about 14 and wanking off to Batman in there parents basements...
Dunno if this is the right place to post it but this is the (spoiler free) review I've just submitted to IMDB:
I was lucky enough to see an advanced screening of this. As a huge
Dredd fan it was very important to me that they got this film right,
thankfully I needn't have worried!
The story is lean and very engaging, a welcome change from recent
bloated, pretentious superhero movies such as the Dark Knight. At 95
minutes the film races along, dragging the viewer through lightning
fast firefights and action packed set pieces while giving respite
through tripped out, slowed down narcotic scenes.
The cast are a delight, Urban is a fantastic Dredd, choosing to keep
his dialogue and grandstanding to a minimum whilst wearing his helmet
throughout, a real testament to the actor. He has an excellent screen
presence and is a real force of nature throughout the film,
breathtaking to watch! However Thurlby steals the show as Anderson,
while Dredd is stoic and unwavering, Anderson goes through a
significant physical and mental journey in the film. Lena Hedley, the
villain of the piece is fantastic! She plays it cold, cool and utterly
ruthless but with a real sense of poignant sadness too. A mention
should also be made of Dohmall Gleason who superbly portrays the
tortured techie of the bad guys.
As well as a perfect cast, the cinematography is glorious too. The
grimy, saturated mezzanines, dimly lit corridors and pixelated CCTV
views being a stark contrast to the genuinely stunning, beautiful
Slo-Mo drug sequences. During these psychedelic scenes, shards of glass
fall like snowflakes while blood and gore dance beautifully across the
screen - a real challenge for the senses!
Dredd is a triumph! It's apparent from the first scenes that everyone
involved has a real passion for the character, his creators and the
fans. Finally, Mega-City One's premier lawman has got justice!
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 07:50:32 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 04 September, 2012, 06:29:40 PM
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 04 September, 2012, 05:21:15 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58086 new review at IMDB... POSITIVE!
The level of bile in the comments section is actually truly bizarre:is it always like that over there?
Yep.I tried some reasoned arguments, but resigned myself to the fact that they are all about 14 and wanking off to Batman in there parents basements...
THEIR...!
Oh noes! After reading the comments on AICN I realise that my positive review must make me a plant. Bugger, I didn't know...
Dredd has gone up to a 7.4, from 7.3 earlier today!
I hope this isn't a dumb question ,but who is sauchieboy?
Bikini Kill (outed)
Well props to bikini kill, his contribution to AICN was perfect and effective antidote: a simple series of links to positive reviews. Wish I'd thought of it.
Won't matter. They're a right bunch of arseholes over there.
Yep, but they do click on things, in their endless obsession to sound knowledgable in subjects of which they are ignorant.
Quote from: darnmarr on 05 September, 2012, 12:16:45 AM
Well props to bikini kill, his contribution to AICN was perfect and effective antidote: a simple series of links to positive reviews. Wish I'd thought of it.
Wish I knew how to do it. Me and computers have a very fraught relationship :|
http://www.cinetalk.tv/post/30927636341/review-dredd-3d
Cinetalk
Was looking at the IMDb rating again, 143 people have given it 1 star? I doubt they have even seen it. On the plus side 640 people have given it 10 stars (49.9% of votes)
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 05 September, 2012, 12:52:03 PM
Was looking at the IMDb rating again, 143 people have given it 1 star? I doubt they have even seen it. On the plus side 640 people have given it 10 stars (49.9% of votes)
Yep as many from trolls that not see the film and half from that twat.
http://www.fotorater.com/film/2012/09/film-review-dredd-3d/
Fotorater
Arty Movie/Culture rag Little White Lies has given Dredd another glowing review. 4 out of 5!
Get in! :thumbsup:
Link?
Quote from: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 02:38:27 PM
Link?
It's not on the website yet, but here's the link:
http://littlewhitelies.co.uk/
I read it in Smiths while picking up my Prog.
They paticularly commend Dredd's visual style and violent tone.
Flickering Myth
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/09/movie-review-dredd-3d-2012.html
Wait a minute, where is bad review? :D
3 days to Judgement Day!
I'm sorry, is that blog seriously making a distinction between 'films' and 'movies'? So Dredd is a 4 star movie, but merely a 2 star 'film'.
F**k off.
Films are entertainment. You like them or you don't, and you don't have to apologise for liking something your film studies lecturer told you is 'lowbrow'.
Even in my most optimistic dreams I'd have expected at least one bad review by now. Craziness!! :D
Quote from: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
I'm sorry, is that blog seriously making a distinction between 'films' and 'movies'? So Dredd is a 4 star movie, but merely a 2 star 'film'.
F**k off.
Films are entertainment. You like them or you don't, and you don't have to apologise for liking something your film studies lecturer told you is 'lowbrow'.
Particularly if you're going to call it "a really, really good film" then give it 2 stars.
18 - 0 on RottonTomatos!
Awesome! You just know some bastard is going to give it a negative soon. We should all send him death threats like what happened with the Dark Knight Rises.
To be honest, when someone does it'll almost be a relief: this much positivity is surreal, I don't trust it.
19-0 now! :D
Quote from: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
Films are entertainment. You like them or you don't, and you don't have to apologise for liking something your film studies lecturer told you is 'lowbrow'.
So if a film attempts to do something more than be simply entertaining, then it has failed as a film?
You're both wrong, of course :D
You've also just used the same argument as the person you're disagreeing with. If a film sets out to be an entertaining violent action movie and achieves that, then it's a good film. If a film sets out to show the impermanence and fragility of life as a sheepherder and achieves that, then it's a good film. You may prefer one over the other based on personal preferences but it's not right at all to dismiss the other as being "just a movie" or arty wank because you personally don't prefer a particular type of film.
Also, I don't think academics - literary, film, music or anything else - tend to use the word 'lowbrow' for anything. People use this argument when trying to dismiss a critics' view all the time and it doesn't hold up. The amount of times I've seen people dismiss Mark Kermode or Peter Bradshaw as sniffy critics who could never like Hollywood blockbusters because they've said Transformers is shit... yet they're more than happy to rave about good action films when they come out (I mean, Mark Kermode was one of the only defenders of Mamma Mia!, for chrissakes!) I don't know if academics would use language loaded with that kind of class prejudice in a publically funded institution either but that's beside the point. People who study such subjects tend to treat everything at its base level as, at the very least, culturally and artistically valid (yes, even Transformers).
People on the internet and in the media, not so much. :o
Look at this punk! Only a 5/10 with Raid comparisons.
http://www.chichester.co.uk/lifestyle/cinema/film-review-dredd-3d-18-1-4221656
Luckily it just seems like some small time local paper.
Soon you'll feel horny again.
Quote from: PreacherCain on 05 September, 2012, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
Films are entertainment. You like them or you don't, and you don't have to apologise for liking something your film studies lecturer told you is 'lowbrow'.
So if a film attempts to do something more than be simply entertaining, then it has failed as a film?
You're both wrong, of course :D
You've also just used the same argument as the person you're disagreeing with. If a film sets out to be an entertaining violent action movie and achieves that, then it's a good film. If a film sets out to show the impermanence and fragility of life as a sheepherder and achieves that, then it's a good film. You may prefer one over the other based on personal preferences but it's not right at all to dismiss the other as being "just a movie" or arty wank because you personally don't prefer a particular type of film.
Also, I don't think academics - literary, film, music or anything else - tend to use the word 'lowbrow' for anything. People use this argument when trying to dismiss a critics' view all the time and it doesn't hold up. The amount of times I've seen people dismiss Mark Kermode or Peter Bradshaw as sniffy critics who could never like Hollywood blockbusters because they've said Transformers is shit... yet they're more than happy to rave about good action films when they come out (I mean, Mark Kermode was one of the only defenders of Mamma Mia!, for chrissakes!) I don't know if academics would use language loaded with that kind of class prejudice in a publically funded institution either but that's beside the point. People who study such subjects tend to treat everything at its base level as, at the very least, culturally and artistically valid (yes, even Transformers).
People on the internet and in the media, not so much. :o
Erm, when exactly did I say that if a film makes you think WHILE it's entertaining you that's a bad thing?
I really don't see how I'm using the same argument - I'm making exactly the same point you just did. The sheep herder 'film' should be judged by the same criteria as the action 'movie' - does it achieve it's goals? Is it interesting/entertaining?
I don't understand the purpose of drawing an artificial line between them, as if one is somehow better or more worthy than the other. Snobbery and elitism, plain and simple.
Blogomatic3000
http://www.blogomatic3000.com/2012/09/05/review-dredd/
Quote from: radiator on 05 September, 2012, 08:48:37 PM
Erm, when exactly did I say that if a film makes you think WHILE it's entertaining you that's a bad thing?
Well that was more in reference to the initial argument. I think saying "films are entertainment" dismisses quite a lot of films, to be honest and is just as wrongheaded as drawing a distinction by categorising things into films and movies. For example, there's been plenty of films I've been disturbed by or even frustrated by, but I'm still glad I watched them because, for whatever reason, they stayed with me. I mean, entertaining isn't necessarily a word I'd use to describe Shame or Irreversible or that Herzog Death Row film (to use relatively recent examples!)
Maybe I've dragged another argument into this. I guess I've seen the "films are entertainment. Nothing more" in a lot of places and it's generally used to dismiss something that people found disturbing/slow/odd. And I wanted to point out that I didn't think film studies would consider a film like Dredd lowbrow or without value so I thought your final point was unfair. Films need to be compelling, definitely, regardless of genre or independent/Hollywood etc. which I guess was your initial point that I perhaps misinterpeted ( :P)
Empire podcast interview with Karl Urban, starts around 40 minutes in.
http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/26-august-31-2012-karl-urban (http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/26-august-31-2012-karl-urban)
First bad review in a well-known publication.
http://www.timeout.com/film/reviews/93465/dredd.html
That's not a bad review. Overall it's positive, and counts as 'fresh' on Rotten Tomatoes.
Quote from: Dudley on 06 September, 2012, 10:42:22 AM
First bad review in a well-known publication.
http://www.timeout.com/film/reviews/93465/dredd.html
I see jerk on first comment there... why he kept try to ruined Dredd 3D?
Quote from: radiator on 06 September, 2012, 10:45:42 AM
That's not a bad review. Overall it's positive, and counts as 'fresh' on Rotten Tomatoes.
You're right, I just couldn't see past "mediocre," "lazy," "derivative" and "flat."
Contains Moderate Peril
http://www.containsmoderateperil.com/dredd-2012/
Quote from: CraveNoir on 06 September, 2012, 11:16:30 AM
Contains Moderate Peril
http://www.containsmoderateperil.com/dredd-2012/
Like this;
Hollywood take note. This how it is done properly.
Filum of the week in the Hootsman:
http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/film-review-dredd-1-2508200 (http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/film-review-dredd-1-2508200)
As for Time Out, anyone who thinks source material is 'mediocre' won't get the lack of pithy one liners from Old Stoney Face.
Is it just me who finds the Timeout review hilarious?
The first paragraph reads like something from yer man in the comments section*, seriously did Alex Garland rob Tom Huddleston's girlfriend or something? The whole thing reads like: "This is good- but no thanks to Garland... it's all Pete's doing I tell you! Yay for Pete and boo for Alex! it's good but if they'd gotten rid of Garland it would have been WAY better!- I hate him"
*whasshisname... the sad fool chap.
Myself and Bat King are currently the top user reviewers of Dredd on the Vue Cinema website :D
There's an advert in todays papers, with comments from reviews from Q, The Sun,The Star(a different review-10/10) etc.
They all LOVE it!
The Star also has an article on Dredd.Can't find a link though, sorry.
Found it-will post in the articles thread.
Workmate got Daily Star, I nick it from her, and scanning it;
(http://i.imgur.com/qJSFy.jpg)
I love the pic of 'Ma': I want that for a poster.
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 01:17:33 PM
Workmate got Daily Star, I nick it from her, and scanning it;
(http://i.imgur.com/qJSFy.jpg)
Good work!
Is that actually of Ma-Ma, as she has no scars?
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 06 September, 2012, 01:02:29 PM
They all LOVE it!
They definitely know all about Dredd at the Star
FILM 4
http://www.film4.com/reviews/2012/dredd-3d
@Mr Eliminator
Yes, that's Ma-Ma pre-scars.
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2012, 11:18:24 AM
Hollywood take note. This how it is done properly.
The only problem with that is that is presumes that "Hollywood" (whatever that is these days) does it "badly". The Avengers, Amazing Spider-Man and the recent Batman films would seem to shoot that down a wee bit. While the Batfilms are of no interest to me personally- the worldwide take of the three would seem to suggest that "Hollywood did it properly"- and I don't think there's anyone who could seriously mount a convincing argument that either The Avengers or Amazing Spider-Man were "bad versions of the comics".
SBT
Another good review, not sure if it has been posted or not before as it says it's from San Diego Comic Con.
http://twitchfilm.com/reviews/2012/09/tiff-2012-review.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TwitchEverything+%28Twitch%29
3.5/5 - http://www.indielondon.co.uk/Film-Review/dredd-3d-review
Judge Alvarez? has he a Prog history? or is that an Easter egg for someone?
ooops, meant to say has Mark Kermode review Dredd yet? or will it be radio 5 Friday afternoon/podcast?
Quote from: Proudhuff on 06 September, 2012, 04:12:34 PM
Judge Alvarez? has he a Prog history? or is that an Easter egg for someone?
Judge Alvarez appeared in prog 978 in the storyline "The Pit" - he is a corrupt judge who is executed by Dredd in prog 980. - wiki.
nice one goat, wish I'd thought of that :-[
Quote from: Proudhuff on 06 September, 2012, 04:13:58 PM
ooops, meant to say has Mark Kermode review Dredd yet? or will it be radio 5 Friday afternoon/podcast?
That's if he's seen it as he'll be in the Shetland Isles for this weeks show.
Sent the show my review of Dredd.
According to his twitter Kermodes seen it:
@KermodeMovie: Morning. Today's screening highlights include Dredd 3D (surely 'Dreddd'?) and Anna Karenina. Off we go ...
Hopefully this isn't where him and I fall out
21-0 on RT!
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/ (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dredd_3d/)
And gone up from 7 to 7.1! Aces.
I really hope it stays Fresh until tomorrow.
FT.com - Sadness at the heart of Dredd
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/046d5296-f76b-11e1-8c9d-00144feabdc0.html
Nice review.
Dashing out - but today's Daily Mash had a good article about what film to see this Friday...
Virgins, most iconic movie helmets. Putting Dredd at number 1 with a link for their little summary of the film.
http://www.virginmedia.com/movies/features/most-iconic-movie-helmets.php
V
The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/sep/06/dredd-review
This Guardian piece is short but sweet - the latest in an increasingly long line of positive reviews for Dredd. (mostly) And although I'd kill to see a film full of kleggs, fatties, bat gliders, muties and Cursed Earth dinosaurs, the sentence; 'In a world of compromised adaptations, Dredd is something of a triumph' really makes me happy. :D (I won't be able to sleep tonight...)
23-0 from RT, creeps!
And gone up to 7.2 now! It's like Deja vu but each time it gets better and better. :D
Tookey doesn't disappoint...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Judge-Dreadful-Hes-crime-fighter-makes-Dirty-Harry-look-namby-pamby-stylish-looks-new-Judge-Dredd-comic.html
2 stars
Quote from: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 12:47:46 AM
Tookey doesn't disappoint...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Judge-Dreadful-Hes-crime-fighter-makes-Dirty-Harry-look-namby-pamby-stylish-looks-new-Judge-Dredd-comic.html
2 stars
Use Norwegian mass-killer Anders Behring Breivik as example? Idiot reviewer
Idiot Newspaper
I think 'a brutal sci-fi killfest' is a pretty good quote. They should put it on the poster.
Actually, that is probably my favourite review so far haha. They sound really upset!
Yeah You're right
QuoteScreenwriter Alex Garland can't be bothered to express any doubts and goes back to basics: Dredd is a great guy, performing his civic duty of kicking ass and blowing people apart.
Sounds Just the ticket! :D
Everything positive but the Daily Mail?-RESULT!
Hang on- im the very last person in the world to defend Tookey. He is a massive, mental arsehole of the first order. But, in all honesty, that review sounds about right: surely the movie IS missing the satirical comedy of the original comics? Garland has said exactly that right here. And that is Tookey's point- it's violent, celebrates Dredd's character without satirising what he does, and isnt particularly well-developed. Im sure when i eventually get to see this next year, i'll agree.
For Tookey, that review is very sane. He doesnt claim it'll bring about the fall of civilisation or that it has magical satanic mind-bending powers. And he cleverely netes any chance of getting ironically quoted on the poster, by describing it as making The Wild Bunch look like something no one has heard of. He's learning.
SBT
If there's anyone you don't want to like this film it's the Daily Mail. I'm absolutely delighted they hate it - and that every other newspaper review I've read rates it highly!
The Sun - Alex Zane - 4/5 All the usual points present and correct!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/sftw/4525248/Alex-Zane-reviews-Dredd-3D.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/sftw/4525248/Alex-Zane-reviews-Dredd-3D.html)
Telegraph gives 3/5 but concludes 'it's really rather good. Can't see it online yet.
Exclaim.ca
http://exclaim.ca/Reviews/TIFF/dredd-directed_by_pete_travis
This is the Daily Record review in full - not worthy of my linking powers!
"THE much-loved 2000AD character Judge Dredd received a woeful movie makeover in 1995 with Sylvester Stallone seriously miscast as the futuristic lawmaker.
This reboot isn't much better, more resembling a straight-to-video cheapie than something that you might expect to see in the multiplex.
Karl Urban plays the perma-helmeted Dredd who, with his new psychic partner, lays waste to a lawless apartment building controlled by drug lord Ma-Ma (Lena Headey).
Dredd's biggest problem is its sheer anonymity, while writer Alex Garland has said there are plans to make two sequels.
There deserves to be a law against that."
Four stars in The Grauniad!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/sep/06/dredd-review?INTCMP=SRCH
Heh, sorry I didn't see that had already been dropped in - curse my relatively-early-morning enthusiasm...
:)
Daily Mirror got same review as Daily Record?
Middle class shit?
Will be listening to see what Kermode says this afternoon.
@KermodeMovie: Today's flagship @wittertainment includes reviews of Anna Karenina, DreDDD, St George's Day,Night in the Woods, Lawless, plus BILL FORSYTH!
Old kermit really is pushing his hilarious 'DreDDD' observational gag, isnt he? He's such a card- and so biting and insighful too, i dont know how he lives with himself.
SBT
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 07 September, 2012, 07:38:15 AM
Hang on- im the very last person in the world to defend Tookey. He is a massive, mental arsehole of the first order. But, in all honesty, that review sounds about right: surely the movie IS missing the satirical comedy of the original comics? Garland has said exactly that right here. And that is Tookey's point- it's violent, celebrates Dredd's character without satirising what he does, and isnt particularly well-developed. Im sure when i eventually get to see this next year, i'll agree.
For Tookey, that review is very sane. He doesnt claim it'll bring about the fall of civilisation or that it has magical satanic mind-bending powers. And he cleverely netes any chance of getting ironically quoted on the poster, by describing it as making The Wild Bunch look like something no one has heard of. He's learning.
SBT
I'd say it does have bleak moments of comedy.
It's not as broad as 30 years ago, but neither is Dredd in the comic and I thought the Brevik line was witless pandering
google "daily mail immigration headlines" - and I'd say he should look a little closer to home.
Quote from: Steve Green on 07 September, 2012, 09:03:35 AM
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 07 September, 2012, 07:38:15 AM
Hang on- im the very last person in the world to defend Tookey. He is a massive, mental arsehole of the first order. But, in all honesty, that review sounds about right: surely the movie IS missing the satirical comedy of the original comics? Garland has said exactly that right here. And that is Tookey's point- it's violent, celebrates Dredd's character without satirising what he does, and isnt particularly well-developed. Im sure when i eventually get to see this next year, i'll agree.
For Tookey, that review is very sane. He doesnt claim it'll bring about the fall of civilisation or that it has magical satanic mind-bending powers. And he cleverely netes any chance of getting ironically quoted on the poster, by describing it as making The Wild Bunch look like something no one has heard of. He's learning.
SBT
I'd say it does have bleak moments of comedy.
It's not as broad as 30 years ago, but neither is Dredd in the comic and I thought the Brevik line was witless pandering
google "daily mail immigration headlines" - and I'd say he should look a little closer to home.
Agreed. There are touches f satire in there. It's not as if every single Dredd story in the comic is The Thick of It anyway. We get more than our fair share of straight action tales.
I left a comment on the Fail - be interesting to see if they post it.
Good point from Joss;
Joss Whedon comments on negative Avengers reviews
The Avengers hasn't come in for much negative press since its release back in May. Indeed, having gone over pretty well with critics across the board, and marched its way to becoming the third highest-grossing film of all time, it's been a pretty smooth ride for Joss Whedon's superhero smash.
However, there will always be dissenters, Earlier in the year, Sam Jackson lost his rag with a New York Times reviewer who he felt was overly critical of the film, taking to Twitter to suggest the critic find himself a new job.
Whedon himself takes a more philosophical view of the naysayers, although he does feel that some of the less favourable reviews were written as an attack on the genre as a whole, rather than of his specific entry to it.
"I went into a bubble when the film came out," says Whedon, "but I do know that Sam Jackson got pretty huffy. I don't think a flame war is going to help anybody. People are allowed to not like the film."
"But I do get annoyed when somebody really hasn't done their homework. A lot of reporting in the negative reviews... was more like they were reviewing the [superhero] genre than the movie itself.
With $1.5 billion in the bank and counting, we'd suggest those reviews aren't really too much to worry about. Marvel's bean-counters certainly won't be losing any sleep over them...
It was in Total Film.
Evening Standard
http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/cinema/dredd--review-8113654.html
Quote from: CraveNoir on 07 September, 2012, 09:59:00 AM
Evening Standard
http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/cinema/dredd--review-8113654.html
I like this reviewer!
These guys think they've got a mega franchise on their hands. They're absolutely right.
Ha Ha! Tookey really is an idiot isn't he. I'm glad he hates it, he's a joke and the Daily Mail is a laughing stock to all intelligent people.
All the other reviews I've read have been overwhelmingly positive and most of them have advocated a sequel.
Bring it on! I want Chopper, the Angel Gang and Satanus!
The Daily Mail called Dredd a "brutal sci-fi killfest" but only gave it 2 out of 5? No wonder our nation's grannies are so confused.
http://www.metro.co.uk/film/reviews/910979-dredd-offers-agreeably-pulpy-action-with-dabs-of-slo-mo-beauty
Apologies if this has already been posted (Too excited to think straight). Short review, mostly positive
Is it me or has Tookey's review sort of been copied and pasted to one or two minor local rags? The one other negative review seemed to be identical..
You've got to give it to Chris Tookey, he's got a gift for wordplay. Let me break it down, because some of you no doubt missed the subtlety at work here:
He described the film as 'Judge DREADful', and this is in fact a pun on 'JUDGE DREDD', the main character of the film!
It's biting, original and witty commentary like that that makes him the number one film critic for the finest newspaper in the world.
Quote from: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 10:34:33 AM
You've got to give it to Chris Tookey, he's got a gift for wordplay. Let me break it down, because some of you no doubt missed the subtlety at work here:
He described the film as 'Judge DREADful', and this is in fact a pun on 'JUDGE DREDD', the main character of the film!
It's biting, original and witty commentary like that that makes him the number one film critic for the finest newspaper in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xiS3-SS-zM
In Tookey's defence, he does his job, which is to recommend movies that his paper's readership might enjoy seeing, and to steer them away from movies they probably won't like. Current editorial and advertising standards dictate that these movies be relatively recent, otherwise he could review Casablanca and Birth of a Nation every day and everyone would be happy.
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 07 September, 2012, 10:53:41 AM
In Tookey's defence, he does his job, which is to recommend movies that his paper's readership might enjoy seeing, and to steer them away from movies they probably won't like. Current editorial and advertising standards dictate that these movies be relatively recent, otherwise he could review Casablanca and Birth of a Nation every day and everyone would be happy.
..you forgot Triumph of the will..
Ironic that the Nazis at The Mail don't like the ultra-facist copper in Dredd eh? :lol:
Descaling Kettles, The Jim Bowen Method
I fully expected a negative review from the DM, and consider it a stamp of approval, but that doesn't change my opinion of Tookey - that he's a lazy, shit, hack and a bad writer. It's not his opinion I take issue with.
In contrast, I frequently disagree strongly with Kermode and his style of reviewing often gets on my tits, to the point where I had to stop listening to his podcast, but concede that he's knowledgable and eloquent and can back up his opinions.
Yeah, Kermode is a good reviewer, he just has terrible taste (likes Twilight, hates Withnail)
Yeah, he does basically troll at times - like his statement that Twilight is
better than Star Wars for example.
He's also crashingly, off-puttingly 'middle-aged dad' at times too, like his blathering on about High School Musical and Zak Efron.
I think what annoys me about him is that unlike most critics i can't get a bead on his tastes at all - he often just seems to flip a coin on whether he likes something or not.
I stopped listening to him after his (rather petty IMO) savaging of Fantastic Mr Fox, a film I love dearly) because he seemed to take against it on a conceptual level, rather than actually discussing the craft, the artistry, the writing etc.
I didn't mind him liking Prometheus but Ridley saying it's a good film was a step too far.
A lot of critics who were unable to see Prometheus for the turkey it was have since gone down in my estimations.
I was staggered by the amount of praise Promotheus recieved, it was a true turd of a movie. :(
..I liked it.. :(
RT 26-0!
Anyone who starts a sentence with 'i hate kermode because' and doesnt include the phrase 'his cuntish hair' is dead to me.
SBT
Note: the above is a joke, for anyone who's bothered. But the sentiment still stands about the hair.
Zane Lowe seem to like it in The Sun today giving it a great write up.
V
Quote from: vzzbux on 07 September, 2012, 01:14:37 PM
Zane Lowe seem to like it in The Sun today giving it a great write up.
V
Just picked one up. Probably the first and last one I'll ever buy.
Has Kermode given it a bad review? Can't see anything?
Quote from: Beeks on 07 September, 2012, 01:19:39 PM
Has Kermode given it a bad review? Can't see anything?
14:00 on Radio 5
RT at 27-0 now, this is ludicrously fantastic. :D
I think Its Friday afternoon he normally tells all for the week, I occasionally listen to podcasts, but during the following week so the details are...hazy
Mark's reviews on 5 live
Take your pick from Kermode & Mayo's A-Z
Hear Mark Kermode review the week's new films every Friday from 2pm on BBC Radio 5 live. Kermode & Mayo's Film Review is also available as a free podcast to download and keep.
Radio 5 live according to his Film blog.
Listening live now - I'd forgotten how bloody self-indulgent Kermode is, dedicating so much of his show to very, very niche films and directors that only he is interested in.
Quote from: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
Listening live now - I'd forgotten how bloody self-indulgent Kermode is, dedicating so much of his show to very, very niche films and directors that only he is interested in.
yeah, the swine. He show only dedicate time to films and directors you like!!
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. ::)
No, what I really mean is every bloody time I listen to the show, there seems to be half of it dedicated to an interview with Bill Forsythe or some totally obscure film festival - or in this case, both.
It's the BBC's flagship film radio show, but it seems very balanced towards the whims of Kermode.
I know what you mean, hence I listen to the pod casts...with the fast forward/rev buttons ;)
Kermode: "The Raid has a depth of character Dredd doesn't have".
Um, what?
Gagh.. There's that sodding the Raid comparison again..
No press reviews for Dredd 3D here in the Emerald Isle, so far. Nothing on any of the radio movie reviews that I've heard. No mention in the Irish Times cultural review - The Ticket. Not even a "This film was released without a press screening" type of announcement. Doesn't bode well for box office prospects in Ireland if the movie aint being promoted here. What's going on, eh?
Quote from: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 03:13:35 PM
Gagh.. There's that sodding the Raid comparison again..
Disappointed...thought he would rise above that lil cliche
To his credit he at least didn't accuse Dredd of ripping it off - just that he couldn't shake off that Comparison. A relatively good review from the notoriously fickle Kermode, I thought. Realistically 3 and a half out of 5 isn't that bad a score at all, especially for a non fan.
Anyone posted this yet?
It uses the Reuters fan screening footage, and is higher res.
http://www.reelz.com/trailer-clips/65279/the-dredd-weve-been-waiting-for/
Well, at least the two listener reviews (one of them Logan) gave a rather more positive assessment of the movie.
Anyway, who cares about Dredd? We're now back on location at the Shetland film festival - the current epicenter of the cinematic universe. Tremendously exciting stuff!
Sent an email about Dredd's production starting sooner.. And the leaked script.. For what it's worth..
Quote from: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 03:24:18 PM
Well, at least the two listener reviews (one of them Logan) gave a rather more positive assessment of the movie.
Anyway, who cares about Dredd? We're now back on location at the Shetland film festival - the current epicenter of the cinematic universe. Tremendously exciting stuff!
I dunno.. That zombie asockalypse actually sounds like fun..
http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/dredd-21759 (http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/dredd-21759)
Quote from: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 03:25:00 PM
Sent an email about Dredd's production starting sooner.. And the leaked script.. For what it's worth..
What? the Dredd's production starting soon?
Before the Raid, yes
Earlier.. I meant earlier than the raid's production.. Me and my stupid tenuous grasp of grammar..
Oh sorry! Dammit! wish they start on Dredd 2. One can hope...
Kermode didn't say that Dredd ripped off The Raid though, did he? Merely that they're quite similiar so having seen The Raid he couldn't shake the comparison. Just one of those unfortunate coincedences.
Quote from: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 03:24:18 PM
Well, at least the two listener reviews (one of them Logan) gave a rather more positive assessment of the movie.
Yay, I will download the podcast as usual.
Was hoping to listen live but once again work got in the way.
Didn't think work would buy my father having a second heart attack in a week.
Reviews from the Toronto screening are popping up.
The Substream
http://www.thesubstream.com/article-tiff-2012-review-dredd-3-d.html
Midnight Madness report, Toronto Star
http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/tiff/article/1252834--tiff-2012-midnight-madness-behind-the-scenes
Midnight Madness report, Iceberg Ink
http://icebergink.blogspot.ca/2012/09/tiff-2012-dredd-3d.html
The new Empire podcast is up now, Dredd review at the 45min mark:
Dredd gets a glowing appraisal, and the guy who gave it a three star review in the mag admits he was wrong and says he should have given in 4 stars!
http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/27-september-7-2012-dredd-anna (http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/27-september-7-2012-dredd-anna)
Quote from: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 04:24:58 PM
The new Empire podcast is up now, Dredd review at the 45min mark:
Dredd gets a glowing appraisal, and the guy who gave it a three star review in the mag admits he was wrong and says he should have given in 4 stars![/i]
http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/27-september-7-2012-dredd-anna (http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/27-september-7-2012-dredd-anna)
To the cubes, creep!
Goaty, that "Gaze into the film" pic is inspired
It was on tweet!
And anyone type "Dredd" into twitter search, lots of positives!!!!!!!
IT'S FUCKING DREDDXMAS!!!!!!!!
Don't do twitter.. But I'll take your word for it..
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 04:27:15 PM
Quote from: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 04:24:58 PM
The new Empire podcast is up now, Dredd review at the 45min mark:
Dredd gets a glowing appraisal, and the guy who gave it a three star review in the mag admits he was wrong and says he should have given in 4 stars![/i]
http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/27-september-7-2012-dredd-anna (http://soundcloud.com/empiremagazine/27-september-7-2012-dredd-anna)
To the cubes, creep!
Chris Hewitt is well known for admitting he is wrong after the fact....
Just back from watching it again. I can't believe how good that Mega City sequence is at the start, better on second viewing.
My review:
http://cool-stuff-you-will-like.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/dredd-3d-film-review.html
Ireland finally noticed it. The good news: They fucking love it.
http://www.rte.ie/ten/2012/0906/dredd3d.html
Mark Kermode - at the 52m40s mark., for anyone who missed it live.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/kermode
Quote from: blackmocco on 07 September, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
Ireland finally noticed it. The good news: They fucking love it.
http://www.rte.ie/ten/2012/0906/dredd3d.html
"Dredd 3D is violent, dark, and really quite nasty. I loved it. In fact, you might say justice has finally been done to one of the most compelling comic heroes of all time."
Another negative-ish review, this one from
Digital Spy (2 stars) though to be frank, it doesn't read like the prose of a professional critic, insisting as it does on frequent, obscure, just plain bizarre references/comparisons to
Doctor Who - clearly something of a pet obsession of the author.
QuoteThe identification figure Anderson is only introduced after a lengthy and dismal chase sequence involving Judge Dredd chasing some drug dealers on a motorbike, as if the movie has bowed to generic conventions by awkwardly shoehorning this sequence in at the beginning.
I'm not even going to go into the wrongness of that paragraph, except to say the obvious, that the 'lengthy' car chase is what? 30-40 seconds long?
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/review/a402085/dredd-3d-review-admirable-intentions-but-lacklustre-execution.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/review/a402085/dredd-3d-review-admirable-intentions-but-lacklustre-execution.html)
The fucker!
See the first comment on Digital Spy, guess who that? He bullshit the film and HE SAYS HE DON'T WANT SEE ANY MORE DREDD films, called himself 2000AD fan? The big fucking loser! And everyone see that on that link!
Pity him: all the positivity generated by the film must be like lemon-juice on his paper-cuts...
And there I was thinking Goaty was a nice, mild mannered chap.. :D
Quote from: Goaty on 07 September, 2012, 06:51:13 PM
The fucker!
See the first comment on Digital Spy, guess who that? He bullshit the film and HE SAYS HE DON'T WANT SEE ANY MORE DREDD films, called himself 2000AD fan? The big fucking loser! And everyone see that on that link!
He's also posting on there under his `Stone Jones`pseudonym.What a complete cock.
(I shudder to think what he was doing during THOSE scenes...!!)
Oh that page is fucked up, ignore my moaning, as Floopy123 and Stone_Jones are same person, and about 8 comments on that page from him!
Quote from: radiator on 07 September, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
Another negative-ish review, this one from Digital Spy (2 stars) though to be frank, it doesn't read like the prose of a professional critic, insisting as it does on frequent, obscure, just plain bizarre references/comparisons to Doctor Who - clearly something of a pet obsession of the author.
QuoteThe identification figure Anderson is only introduced after a lengthy and dismal chase sequence involving Judge Dredd chasing some drug dealers on a motorbike, as if the movie has bowed to generic conventions by awkwardly shoehorning this sequence in at the beginning.
I'm not even going to go into the wrongness of that paragraph, except to say the obvious, that the 'lengthy' car chase is what? 30-40 seconds long?
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/review/a402085/dredd-3d-review-admirable-intentions-but-lacklustre-execution.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/review/a402085/dredd-3d-review-admirable-intentions-but-lacklustre-execution.html)
Yeah, I saw that. Who knew slo-mo was a real drug?
Quote from: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 06:57:41 PM
And there I was thinking Goaty was a nice, mild mannered chap.. :D
Sorry, and sorry everyone, won't happens again and moving on, it just few months ago, on other forum, he was abused my deafness. The sad bastard.
http://uk.askmen.com/entertainment/movies/dredd-review.html (http://uk.askmen.com/entertainment/movies/dredd-review.html)
4/5
Reprehensible little troll..
That digitalspy review (and whole page in general) seems a bit off in general.. I say if 90% are in agreement that it's a bloody good film, then for a change, I'll go with the majority.. Also, everyone here loves it, and that's what matters.
Has anyone noticed how POSITIVE the IMDB boards are??? :o
Quote from: Michaelvk on 07 September, 2012, 07:48:41 PM
Has anyone noticed how POSITIVE the IMDB boards are??? :o
Well I been work hard on that board last few months...
There's a reason you're all over the movie..
More positives from Evening Standard reviewer
http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/cinema/dredd--review-8113654.html
Also Metro this morning gave it three out of five and urged the need for Dredd sequels.
I was pleased to see Dredd got mentioned in the Belfast Telegraph today. I say 'mentioned' and not 'reviewed', because it's a local paper and it's just a perfunctory summary of the plot with no opinion given, other than the 3 star rating (everything gets 3 stars in the Belly Telly). Honestly, some of you lads from the 'Last Movie Watched' Thread should see if you can get a fillum column in the Belly Telly.
And Goaty, where the fuck did you get that image in your sig? It's bloody arsom
bloody lack of modify button anyway
metro
http://www.metro.co.uk/film/reviews/910979-dredd-offers-agreeably-pulpy-action-with-dabs-of-slo-mo-beauty
Quote from: pops1983 on 07 September, 2012, 07:57:58 PM
And Goaty, where the fuck did you get that image in your sig? It's bloody arsom
From 2000AD artist John Spelling's, he tweet that today! Love it!
A lacklustre review on The Register:
http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/07/dredd_3d_film_review/
Our very own Rich McAuliffe on ecbt2000AD:
http://2000ad.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/dredd-3d-a-quick-spoiler-free-if-a-little-sweary-review/ (http://2000ad.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/dredd-3d-a-quick-spoiler-free-if-a-little-sweary-review/)
Quote from: Cactus on 07 September, 2012, 08:50:21 PM
A lacklustre review on The Register:
http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/07/dredd_3d_film_review/
"I'm a Judge Dredd fan, and this isn't a fan's movie."I think there are a fair amount of people on here who would disagree with that.
I have a problem with something in that review....
Dame Lena Hedley was not 'kinda hot'!
She was 'Take me roughly in the barn SMOKING HAWT with bells on'
Her mug shot...hubba.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 07 September, 2012, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: Cactus on 07 September, 2012, 08:50:21 PM
A lacklustre review on The Register:
http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/07/dredd_3d_film_review/
"I'm a Judge Dredd fan, and this isn't a fan's movie."
I think there are a fair amount of people on here who would disagree with that.
I think this reviewer is of the "Shoulder-pads and flying cars are what Dredd is
really about" school, which means he regards the Stallone movie as more of a fan-pleaser, which means he's notsomuch a fan as an idiot.
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 07 September, 2012, 10:08:28 PM
I have a problem with something in that review....
Dame Lena Hedley was not 'kinda hot'!
She was 'Take me roughly in the barn SMOKING HAWT with bells on'
Her mug shot...hubba.
She does manage to walk a very fine line between unfeasibly sexy and utterly terrifying. It's a fantastic performance.
The Daily Mirror's review of Dredd is highly negative, but for some reason it reads like the reviewer didn't actually see the film, and I'm surprised it isn't as strong on factual accuracy as their great Dredd interest piece from yesterday:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/going-out/film/dredd-3d-9-best-comic-1308292
A tabloid newspaper reviews a movie and does so in such a fashion as to suggest the reviewer wasn;t paying attention? SURELY NOT!?
Movie reviews in the tabloid press = not even worth wasting time on. Don't even get me started on that issue.
Quote from: Professah Byah on 07 September, 2012, 10:35:45 PM
The Daily Mirror's review of Dredd is highly negative, but for some reason it reads like the reviewer didn't actually see the film, and I'm surprised it isn't as strong on factual accuracy as their great Dredd interest piece from yesterday:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/going-out/film/dredd-3d-9-best-comic-1308292
Didn't read anything negative there-do you read it right, just summed up what was wrong with the last film?
Drew McWeeny, formerly Moriarty of aintitcoolnews and now on Hitfix, gives a glowing review:
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/review-dredd-offers-up-a-grimy-hyper-violent-faithful-take-on-the-comic-icon
Quote from: ming on 07 September, 2012, 08:09:04 AM
Four stars in The Grauniad!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/sep/06/dredd-review?INTCMP=SRCH
The guy who wrote the review went on to say this in the comments section:
QuoteIt's the usual excuse of issues of space, I've seen all the movies released this week and, with the exception of the reissue to Tabu, Dredd is easily the best, in terms of execution, living up to its remit, etc. So we get hundreds of words saying what's wrong with Lawless and Anna K but only 150 to try to say what's great about Dredd. So I'll add a little, free of charge:
The trade off in dialing back the futurism really works, by using real world stuff they stretch the budget further and give the film some scope, there's a car chase featuring the least futuristic vehicles you've ever seen and there are plenty of shots where they've just plonked a CGI city block onto real Johannesburg - it does have a bit of District 9 feel sometimes. But it works, gives the film a realistic, gritty look.
The world of 2000ad has influenced many films, but never (apart from the Stallone abomination) officially. I'd say the two films guilty of the most "borrowing" from the comic are Robocop and Mad Max2, two films that Dredd has kinship with - it plays more like a super violent 80's science fiction exploitation flick, I'd suggest comparing it with the bland remake of Total Recall but that would involve you having to endure Total Recall.
It may look "anachronistic" but the film captures the feel of Dredd, there are plenty of nods to fans in the art direction. The soundtrack is also great, including a weird surprise for fans of [spoiler]Matt Berry.[/spoiler]
Urban, as I said, nails it, but Thirlby also really impresses, it's left to her to show some character next to the void that is Dredd and she does a great job as a likeable and very useful sidekick - Andersons ESP stuff ios really well handled.
The decision to do a regular action movie (and any comparison to The Raid is purely coincidental and both films are very different in execution) rather than one of the more satirical signature epic tales from the comics also pays off, there's no muddle to get Dredd lost in. This is a great introduction to the character, also showing that the 2000ad. world can work on film for a very reasonable price.
Go see this so they can make The Cursed Earth or Dark Judges next.
I'm glad to see this getting such a positive response. Hopefully it'll translate in to bums on seats.
Quote from: Cactus on 07 September, 2012, 08:50:21 PM
A lacklustre review on The Register:
http://www.reghardware.com/2012/09/07/dredd_3d_film_review/
Somewhat sceptical of a reviewer who can't even get the running time of the movie he's reviewing right...
Bah.
Jim
Is this one new...?
http://www.exposedmagazine.co.uk/news/2012/09/08/Dredd_3D__Movie_Review/
Cheers
Jim
I'd really love to know what Stallone's honest reaction will be: doubt that I'll ever hear it though.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 08 September, 2012, 01:49:47 AM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 07 September, 2012, 10:35:45 PM
The Daily Mirror's review of Dredd is highly negative, but for some reason it reads like the reviewer didn't actually see the film, and I'm surprised it isn't as strong on factual accuracy as their great Dredd interest piece from yesterday:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/going-out/film/dredd-3d-9-best-comic-1308292
Didn't read anything negative there-do you read it right, just summed up what was wrong with the last film?
As I stated in my post - which you appear not to have read right - the article I linked to was a filler interest piece on the Mirror website from the 6th and not the review itself. The review of Dredd appeared in the print edition of the paper and the interest piece was merely to highlight the shockingly poor factual research on display by their entertainment writer - thinking Dredd95 only took his helmet off in the final reel, for instance, shows an odd lack of knowledge for a film they're directly commenting upon as if they've seen it. Likewise Teela being "He-Man's daughter", or thinking there was a character in popular culture called He-Ra. I had to read it again to be sure it wasn't a mickey-take, but it actually seems to be on the level.
Yes, you're right sorry Prof
Quote from: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 01:57:15 PM
I'd really love to know what Stallone's honest reaction will be: doubt that I'll ever hear it though.
I read somewhere a few months ago someone asked him about the new Dredd, he simply said he was aware of it, wished them luck and that his own version was a missed opportunity.
According to the Kermode radio thing: Stallone was disappointed that, when he came out onto the set in the gear,-that nobody laughed at him.
Even after all this time he doesn't get it. I doubt you'll get any soundbites from Stallone in the near future about Dredd though, owing to his recent tragic loss.
http://www.themoviewaffler.com/2012/09/new-release-review-dredd.html#more (http://www.themoviewaffler.com/2012/09/new-release-review-dredd.html#more)
Negative, bottom-feeder, blog review.
"The problem with Judge Dredd is that such a left-wing comic strip is never going to translate well to Hollywood. I could only see it working as a mid-budget British production."
duuuuuuuuuuhhhh
Quote from: darnmarr on 08 September, 2012, 02:42:40 PM
http://www.themoviewaffler.com/2012/09/new-release-review-dredd.html#more (http://www.themoviewaffler.com/2012/09/new-release-review-dredd.html#more)
Negative, bottom-feeder, blog review.
he's posted on Rotten Tomatoes too, Eric Hillis.....wanker.
"The problem with Judge Dredd is that such a left-wing comic strip is never going to translate well to Hollywood. I could only see it working as a mid-budget British production. Maybe third time lucky?"
Funny, I thought it WAS a mid-budget British production??...
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 08 September, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
he's posted on Rotten Tomatoes too, Eric Hillis.....wanker.
Well, the internet being what it is, it was only a matter of time before some peice of poo posted a snarky, belligerent, ill-informed bit of nonsense like this: I imagine there's more to come yet , but meanwhile on RT: look at the LOVE...
Lana Headly interview.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-of-thrones/9522795/Lena-Headey-Theres-something-cooler-about-the-geeks.html
The Daily mail hates it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Dredd-movie-review-Judge-Dreadful-comic.html?ito=feeds-newsxml#addComment (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Dredd-movie-review-Judge-Dreadful-comic.html?ito=feeds-newsxml#addComment)
What a surprise.
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 08 September, 2012, 03:42:50 PM
Lana Headly interview.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-of-thrones/9522795/Lena-Headey-Theres-something-cooler-about-the-geeks.html
That's a good read. I've yet to read an interview with her that doesn't mention her potty mouth. Swoon.
Quote from: Misanthrope on 08 September, 2012, 05:08:19 PM
The Daily mail hates it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Dredd-movie-review-Judge-Dreadful-comic.html?ito=feeds-newsxml#addComment (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-2199563/Dredd-movie-review-Judge-Dreadful-comic.html?ito=feeds-newsxml#addComment)
What a surprise.
Have you read the comments under the review? Most slate the reviewer calling him 'lazy' and 'reactionary' and say that if he (Chris Tookey) dislikes the film... then it must be good. :D
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 08 September, 2012, 05:26:25 PM
That's a good read. I've yet to read an interview with her that doesn't mention her potty mouth. Swoon.
Aye: if she drinks dark rum, and she chews tobaccy then she may be the lass for me!
http://www.film.com/movies/dredd-3-d-review-2012 (http://www.film.com/movies/dredd-3-d-review-2012)
Canadian giving thumbs up!
Another positive review.
http://www.badhaven.com/film/film-reviews/dredd-2012-the-bad-haven-review/
Another happy Canadian:http://www.scifiheaven.net/2012/09/dredd-its-pretty-drokking-good-actually/ (http://www.scifiheaven.net/2012/09/dredd-its-pretty-drokking-good-actually/)
Good to see that after the weekend it has gone up from 7.4 to 7.7 on IMDb and is still 100% on RT with 29 reviews.
..and two 'top reviewer' reviews: apparantly they need 5 for 'consensus'.
Here's a top reviewer slating the film and calling us all "unfastidious, unsqueamish loners."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/sep/09/dredd-review
Hardly a review at all; more of a summary of the trailer! Makes me wonder if he actually bothered watching the film...
Heh, unfastidious, unsqueamish loners of the world unite! And then leave comments at the end of that review pointing out what an idiot Philip French is. Looks like people already started that, anyway... :)
The guardian has already given Dredd 4/5 has it not?
Two positive reviews from The Grauniad so far:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/sep/03/dredd-judge-alex-garland-pete-travis
ding Phelim's review - http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/sep/06/dredd-review?INTCMP=SRCH
Quote from: hippynumber1 on 09 September, 2012, 12:51:33 PM
Hardly a review at all; more of a summary of the trailer! Makes me wonder if he actually bothered watching the film...
^this^ It seems a pointedly trailer-based response, I'm amazed with what people get away with sometimes.
Impact Magazine
http://www.impactnottingham.com/2012/09/review-dredd/
Flick Filosopher
http://www.flickfilosopher.com/blog/2012/09/dredd_review.html
Flick Filosopher is my personal favourite so far.
Mine too. It's a beauty.
Shame she's getting some disdain and arguments in her comments section (ignoring the UK-is-violent guy) and people picking at her reading of the movie. She enjoyed it immensely, communicates that and expresses a viewpoint totally different to that of 2000AD readers. That should be welcomed even if she flags up a few concerns or areas she as an uninformed watcher 'didn't get'.
Have to concur.
She's invited discussion, and she's getting it. I don't think she's getting slagged. Her criticism is somewhat muddled, given that she is simultaneously acknowledging that the film would make a grave error in trying to do much whilst complaining that it did too little...
And, as I say, people who claim there is no satirical intent in the film either aren't looking, don't understand what satire is, or, perhaps, mistakenly project the broad-comedy-with-brutal-cop-dropped-in template for many of the short-form Dredd strips as the be-all and end-all of the character.
Cheers
Jim
There are some more deserving targets:(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-URyuh-Oi-IU/UEy9PDs2otI/AAAAAAAACBk/xEFuocdDtrE/s400/dick.GIF)
Quote from: darnmarr on 09 September, 2012, 05:01:49 PM
There are some more deserving targets:(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-URyuh-Oi-IU/UEy9PDs2otI/AAAAAAAACBk/xEFuocdDtrE/s400/dick.GIF)
Brilliant response!
p.s-It was me who called him a wanker...the wanker!
nice.
Apparently this Numbnuts thinks Dredd 3d works as a simplistic actionfest because the source material is D grade bullshit.
It reads like he's only ever read 2 episodes of Heavy Metal Dredd and thinks he knows his shit.
Ah, Aintitcool...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58223 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58223)
found this on youtube JOBLO interview with judge Dredd - Karl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tkFIRKydjIs
Squaddies like it..
http://www.arrse.co.uk/films-music-all-things-artsy/113556-what-film-have-you-just-watched-487.html#post4607047
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 09 September, 2012, 05:14:38 PM
Apparently this Numbnuts thinks Dredd 3d works as a simplistic actionfest because the source material is D grade bullshit.
It reads like he's only ever read 2 episodes of Heavy Metal Dredd and thinks he knows his shit.
Ah, Aintitcool...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58223 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58223)
that guy likes scott pilgrim.. which is shite
Grudd, I'm just getting more and more up'edy about the film. Haven't been this stirred up since Sin City or Inglourious basterds.
Hopefully it'll get a release where I live, about as north as north can be in Sweden, thanks to the 3D stuff. If it doesn't, then it'll probaply be about 70 miles to the nearest theatre who'll show it.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 09 September, 2012, 05:14:38 PM
It reads like he's only ever read 2 episodes of Heavy Metal Dredd and thinks he knows his shit.
Ah, Aintitcool...
All in all, that's a pretty positive review, limited understanding of the character and tiresome Raid comparisons aside.
Cheers
Jim
http://www.avforums.com/movies/Dredd-3D-review_11048/movie.html 9/10!
p.s-spoilers in that review!
I was just about to post that link chuffsteruk , beat me too it.
Its certainly one of the most detailed reviews that i have read on the film to date and is overwhelmingly positive on the movie.
33-0 on RT! :)
Quote from: Simon Penter on 10 September, 2012, 10:20:29 AM
I was just about to post that link chuffsteruk , beat me too it.
Its certainly one of the most detailed reviews that i have read on the film to date and is overwhelmingly positive on the movie.
I've never won anything before...sob :'( :lol:
What a great review!
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Quote from: Goaty on 10 September, 2012, 10:25:47 AM
33-0 on RT! :)
And that includes Philip French's '
for unfastidious, unsqueamish loners' review... Hah!
:lol:
Quote from: ming on 10 September, 2012, 11:06:44 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 10 September, 2012, 10:25:47 AM
33-0 on RT! :)
And that includes Philip French's 'for unfastidious, unsqueamish loners' review... Hah!
:lol:
... which suggests that either the software they're using can't handle irony, or they know their readers well...
EatSleepLiveFilm:
5 Stars, bitches.
QuoteDredd is a blast. Feeling standalone enough to work as a single movie but with scope for outwardly more epic fare, it's one of the finest action movie experiences I've had the pleasure of taking in for quite some time and as of writing in my own personal top 3 of the year. Check it out. It's the law.
http://www.eatsleeplivefilm.com/review-dredd/ (http://www.eatsleeplivefilm.com/review-dredd/)
Guess we must've covered London Evening Standard already?
(Had a great night on Friday. After a long but satisfying week of work, ate out with the Mrs at 10pm. Fish and chips with beers while I read the Evening Standard review of DREDD, the night before I saw it.)
"Still, it's the 3D visuals that really make you gulp. Cinematographer Anthony Dod Mantle (who shot Slumdog Millionaire) creates hyper-real textures, mostly close-ups of liquids and skin, that defy belief. Imagine medieval tapestries, American pop art and Disney ice forests melting, helter skelter, into one... Such sequences are especially unsettling when used to show the delicious effects of Slo-Mo. While a part of us is drawn to Dredd's puritannical zeal, another part of us longs to go with the decadent, swooning flow.
...These guys think they've got a mega franchise on their hands. They're absolutely right."
I only have one copy which the Mrs picked up as I left work to late. Online anyway:
http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/cinema/dredd--review-8113654.html
I listen to a fantastic podcast called Hypnobobs which covers all manner of topics and was delighteded to see that this week Jim Moon the velvet voiced host was doing an episode on Judge Dredd. I think you'll all find this very entertaining, well researched and a great listen.
HYPNOBOBS 93 - A Beginners Guide To Judge Dredd
This week Mr Jim Moon presents a highly zarjaz Beginners Guide To Judge Dredd. In this thrill-powered episode, we'll uncover the history of British comics, detail the creation of 2000 AD, explore the the world of Judge Dredd, and finally round off with a spoiler-free review of the brand new movie Dredd 3D! Miss it at your peril grexnixes!
http://www.geekplanetonline.com/hosting/originals/hypnobobs/?p=episode&name=2012-09-09_hypnobobs_93__the_beginners_guide_to_judge_dredd.mp3 (http://www.geekplanetonline.com/hosting/originals/hypnobobs/?p=episode&name=2012-09-09_hypnobobs_93__the_beginners_guide_to_judge_dredd.mp3)
EatSleepLiveFilm.com has a cracking 5 star review of Dredd 3D.
http://www.eatsleeplivefilm.com/review-dredd/ (http://www.eatsleeplivefilm.com/review-dredd/)
Also the reviewer Ian Loring has a podcast called Cinerama where he reviews Dredd 3D this week.
http://cinerama.podomatic.com/ (http://cinerama.podomatic.com/)
Y'know, I saw this movie and loved it, and even gave it a good review myself - but I am roundly amazed at the almost consistently brilliant write-ups it is getting.
More Dredd 3D for your listening pleasure.
35mm Heroes Episode 133: Dredd 3D Review
And it's that time of the week again... So join Jordan, Ian and Noel as they begin the episode by telling you what they've been watching this week, which includes The Sweeney, V/H/S, Anna Karenina, Side by Sise, Grindhouse Road, Lawless and Castle Freak.
The Trailer Talk this week if for the second trailer of incredible looking Cloud Atlas.
And all this before heading into their main review of the Pete Travis directed Dredd 3D, written by Sunshine scribe Alex Garland.
http://therattle35mmheroes.libsyn.com/ (http://therattle35mmheroes.libsyn.com/)
Another from JoBlo...
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/review-dredd-3d-tiff-2012
95% on RT. Tookey's work in this age is done, now he can return to his crypt for re-mummification and take a well-deserved thousand year slumber.
Officially certified `Fresh`at Rotten Tomatoes!
Huzzah!
Just out of curiosity, what makes it official?
When it gets the consensus of 5 top critics.
Ah, cool thanks.
Also, has anyone else noticed that when you google search Dredd, the short description of it on the right hand side uses that fake poster of the badge with blood on it? I presumed that the info was sourced from wikipedia but that has the proper poster on it. Also Metacritic use the fake poster too. How the hell does that even happen? The poster is clearly fake.
The pictures change everyday.
Wow.. It's practically Star Wars 77 style euphoria.. Though adjusted for inflation and cultural laziness..
Re the fan poster.
This chain has been using the fake in its online listings.
http://www.reelcinemas.co.uk/
Don't know if this means anything, but JoBlo.com currently has Dredd as the No 1 most popular upcoming film (see the box on the lower left of the page).
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/review-dredd-3d-tiff-2012 (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/review-dredd-3d-tiff-2012)
Now I've read the reviews on the Odeon website.. There were three one star ratings, interestingly all three with horribly bad grammar and no punctuation.. Which makes it hard to take these reviews at all seriously.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 September, 2012, 12:12:17 PM
Now I've read the reviews on the Odeon website.. There were three one star ratings, interestingly all three with horribly bad grammar and no punctuation.. Which makes it hard to take these reviews at all seriously.
Maybe it was by 11-14 teenagers that can't watch the film?
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 September, 2012, 12:12:17 PM
Now I've read the reviews on the Odeon website.. There were three one star ratings, interestingly all three with horribly bad grammar and no punctuation.. Which makes it hard to take these reviews at all seriously.
To be fair though you can't really argue with "dont waste you time total recall batter then this". I think that one is Mark Kermode.
I am incredibly jealous of you lot getting to see this time and time again. I am not sure this movie is even going to get a release out here in the middle east as I can't find any information anywhere about it :(
Quote from: malkymac on 11 September, 2012, 01:06:08 PM
I am incredibly jealous of you lot getting to see this time and time again. I am not sure this movie is even going to get a release out here in the middle east as I can't find any information anywhere about it :(
I have no idea how this ended up in this thread - it was meant to be in the box office one!
Had a flick through the Sunday Mail's review section today (for shame my mum reads it) and can't remember
the reviewer's name but he gave Dredd four out of five stars, effectively making his film of the week!
Proves some of there lot have taste at least.
Yep, that's Matthew Bond, I read it too, it was shortest review.
Quote from: Goaty on 11 September, 2012, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 11 September, 2012, 12:12:17 PM
Now I've read the reviews on the Odeon website.. There were three one star ratings, interestingly all three with horribly bad grammar and no punctuation.. Which makes it hard to take these reviews at all seriously.
Maybe it was by 11-14 teenagers that can't watch the film?
Apparently some of them have been sneaking in
http://youtu.be/1tDvNmVFsm4 (http://youtu.be/1tDvNmVFsm4)
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 11 September, 2012, 03:19:37 PM
Apparently some of them have been sneaking in
http://youtu.be/1tDvNmVFsm4 (http://youtu.be/1tDvNmVFsm4)
It's audio, so I can't hear it... ;)
Its a kid doing the review. He's a 2000ad fan and is quite positive about the film. If you read the comments he reveals that he snuck in to see it.
Little bugger! hehe!
Oh the irony.. Sneaking in to the theatre to see a movie above their age rating would land 'em some time in the cubes, I'm sure..
Also means other films are getting Dredd's ticket money.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 11 September, 2012, 03:53:05 PM
Also means other films are getting Dredd's ticket money.
Meanwhile at a central department of cinema statistics and demographics analysis:
"Wow! Have you seen the amount of teenage boys going to
Anna Karenina this week? - those chaps really dig this period-Tolstoy stuff!- lets have a sequel with explosions n' that..."
Gotta hand it to the kid, great review. A lot of other good ones on youtube too. Great that many seem to embrace the concept. A violent but beautiful film. Like a 70's thriller mixed with a 80's action.
Can't seriously wait. Feels like the movie will grant me a smile that'll break my cheeks.
I don't even twit and yet I'm hooked on the bloody thing for any mention of Dredd. It's addictive, listening to all the people reacting to it in real time. Need to step away now, it feels like I've been on it non-stop since Friday.
But for all those who haven't peeped in on Twitter, do - it's plenty reassuring. People are loving it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h-Z-cZnK-Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h-Z-cZnK-Y)wood harris interview
IGN vid review. Nice and positive,
Warning contains some Rob Schnider
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2012/09/12/dredd-3d-video-review
Gone up to 7.8 on IMDb. Let's hope it keeps on climbing.
But another rotten review on RT bring it down to 7/10. Still only three negative reviews is quite good, and the summary actually comes across quite well.
"If you've always wanted to watch bullets go through someone's face in slow motion, Dredd is for you."
Sold!
One star review from Seven magazine (the Telegraph):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/filmreviews/9539101/Dredd-3D-Seven-magazine-review.html
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 10:50:07 PM
One star review from Seven magazine (the Telegraph):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/filmreviews/9539101/Dredd-3D-Seven-magazine-review.html
Who asked her to go see Dredd? She did however like 'Mirror Mirror' which I've read was terrible. Stupid bint...
AICN
Glowing review
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58298
Quote from: Stu101 on 12 September, 2012, 10:59:23 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 September, 2012, 10:50:07 PM
One star review from Seven magazine (the Telegraph):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/filmreviews/9539101/Dredd-3D-Seven-magazine-review.html
Who asked her to go see Dredd?
She misread the title as 'Mr Darcy 3D'
Different kind of helmet.
I saw that comedian and author Charlie Higson was impressed with Dredd, and was posting about it on Twitter yesterday. Anyone else seen any celebrity fans?
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 13 September, 2012, 03:00:47 AM
AICN
Glowing review
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58298
This made me laugh!
QuoteI love that we live in an era when we can bring the full force of millions of CPU hours of computational power, Oscar-winning brainpower, and dozens of CG artists to get exactly the right kind of slow motion head explosion.
Best head explosion since Scanners!
Quote from: radiator on 13 September, 2012, 10:26:49 AM
I saw that comedian and author Charlie Higson was impressed with Dredd, and was posting about it on Twitter yesterday. Anyone else seen any celebrity fans?
charlie higson @monstroso
#Dredd well worth seeing if you like that kind of thing, true to the spirit of the original comic, but very violent. Some amazing slo-mo
Si Spurrier loved it too.
Comedian Mitch Benn is a fan:
@MitchBenn: Paul Leonard Morgan's Dredd score is as good as Daft Punk's Tron Legacy score; unlike Tron Legacy it isn't the best thing about the film...
Mark Millar (I don't follow him, it was a ReTweet), Rob Williams, Pat Mills, Henry Flint and Jock have all been praising it on Twitter.
John Haward tweeted to Jock he thinks it is the best comic to film adaptation ever.
I think it could be,I need to look at it as just a comic book film not a biased Dredd fan and I won't be able to do that for a while because I'm still giddy like a kid on Cola but I really think it could be.
The next Batman film should have the same tone,hard R/18.Go on Hollywood,grow some balls. A 50mil hardR Bats,that the kinda legacy Dredd should have.That and almost every other 2000ad story getting the big screen treatment,I'm sure some folk over there are going to be watching very closely and seeing what other gems can be snapped up from the Galaxy's Greatest comic.
Characterwise, it's also the most faithful comic film.
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 13 September, 2012, 01:19:01 PM
The next Batman film should have the same tone,hard R/18.Go on Hollywood,grow some balls. A 50mil hardR Bats,that the kinda legacy Dredd should have.
I think they should go the opposite way if they must do more Batman films. Make it creepier and more of a mystery style thriller. The gritty angle suits Dredd because it was always an aspect of the character in the comic but then again, what do I know, I'm not a Bat-fan. R-rated superhero films feel silly to me.
Batman films are ludicrously unfaithful to the comics, Bat's goes from a lithe, agile ninja detective, to an armoured tech-thug with a 50 a day habit. :(
Any word from Simon Pegg? given he's chums with Karl thought he might have tweeted or done a bit cheerleading at least?
I did send him a tweet asking if he'd seen it but got no reply...
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 September, 2012, 01:30:15 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 13 September, 2012, 01:19:01 PM
The next Batman film should have the same tone,hard R/18.Go on Hollywood,grow some balls. A 50mil hardR Bats,that the kinda legacy Dredd should have.
I think they should go the opposite way if they must do more Batman films. Make it creepier and more of a mystery style thriller. The gritty angle suits Dredd because it was always an aspect of the character in the comic but then again, what do I know, I'm not a Bat-fan. R-rated superhero films feel silly to me.
I want them to play up Batman mental illness and have him sneak into crims bedrooms at night to break all their arms and legs.
Anyway never gonna happen.......back to Dredd.
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 13 September, 2012, 01:42:59 PM
I did send him a tweet asking if he'd seen it but got no reply...
Hope he hadn't done another burns your fan stuffs as he did with Star Wars in Spaced...?
Quote from: Goaty on 13 September, 2012, 01:58:04 PM
Quote from: Fisticuffs on 13 September, 2012, 01:42:59 PM
I did send him a tweet asking if he'd seen it but got no reply...
Hope he hadn't done another burns your fan stuffs as he did with Star Wars in Spaced...?
I very much doubt anyone could make a comparison between Dredd and The Phantom Menace!!
I was playing music last night: in a pub, the people at the nearest table weren't listening - they were all talking about this amazing film that one of them hadn't seen and another one had already seen twice, in between songs I proudly announced "Three times! lads" the response was:"Dredd?- it's fucking amazing, isn't it?"
City of Dredd
http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/city-of-dredd/8635615.article?blocktitle=Opinion&contentID=5140
The Beat is picking up on things too now.
http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/09/13/critics-love-dredd-3d/ (http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/09/13/critics-love-dredd-3d/)
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 13 September, 2012, 05:09:57 PM
The Beat is picking up on things too now.
http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/09/13/critics-love-dredd-3d/ (http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/09/13/critics-love-dredd-3d/)
What surprises me is the reaction if bewilderment that Dredd has turned out to be good from so many quarters. I get the impression that the only exposure they ever had was Judge Dredd '95.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 September, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
City of Dredd
http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/city-of-dredd/8635615.article?blocktitle=Opinion&contentID=5140
That's a very interesting article, and a good selection of images from both comic and film to illustrate it.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 13 September, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
What surprises me is the reaction if bewilderment that Dredd has turned out to be good from so many quarters. I get the impression that the only exposure they ever had was Judge Dredd '95.
I'm not surprised at all since I was pretty surprised by how good Dredd is. I had faith in the people behind it but I was still bracing myself for something not-so-good. And the fact it's the UK No.1?? - did not see that coming at all.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 September, 2012, 01:26:18 PM
Characterwise, it's also the most faithful comic film.
Dredd is literally an episode of the comic made for the big screen.
Whoah. SomethingAwful.com gives it 48/50
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/current-movie-reviews/dredd-words-oogieloves.php
With an impressive final comment:
QuoteDirector Pete Travis has constructed a brilliantly layered, hard-hitting and interesting sci-fi action film that I wish anybody working at Marvel Films had the sheer audacity to even attempt.
http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-why-dredd-sucked.php
Quote from: SneakeeX on 14 September, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-why-dredd-sucked.php
bollocks..
Everyone has a right to an opinion. It's just in this case they are totally wrong
As bummed as I am that nobody's commenting on the AWESOME SomethingAwful review yet, I think in this case it's fitting that WhatCulture's initials are WC.
Spiteful trolling, plain and simple.
When something is proving popular, even within a niche audience, it's human nature that some cretin will have to rail against it in order to get a reaction and make themselves feel clever and smug.
I get that not everyone is going to like the film, but just change that blog title to another film to see how ridiculous it is. 5 REASONS WHY ANNA KARENINA SUCKED! sounds laughable, doesn't it? Calling it something like 'Dredd: Don't believe the hype' makes the same point, but doesn't make you sound like a braying, loudmouthed, infantile, killjoy prick.
I'm amazed that WC agreed to run such a childish and petty article.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 14 September, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 14 September, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-why-dredd-sucked.php
bollocks..
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I find it hard not to dismiss this guy as a total penis.
Quote from: SneakeeX on 14 September, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-why-dredd-sucked.php
I left a very measured and polite counter comment after the article. Would anyone like to balance it out by going on and calling the guy a cunt?
Give me a min...
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 14 September, 2012, 11:39:15 AM
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I find it hard not to dismiss this guy as a total penis.
There's opinion, and then there's the bit where he basically says: "I didn't see it in 3D, but the 3D is shit and doesn't add anything to the film."
How the fuck would he know? "I didn't see it in 3D because I think 3D is shit and doesn't add anything to
any film" is fair enough, but what he says is akin to saying: "I saw it without any sound, but I can tell you that the soundtrack is crap." No, mate, you really can't.
Cheers
Jim
Quote(SPOLIERS in following paragraph)
When a group of rouge Judges show up it looks like things could get interesting. But instead it gets even more banal. The stupidity of these new adversaries is unbelievable; three of them all die from taking the time to talk to the people they are being paid to kill. And in a bizarre casting choice, the lead rouge has a very similar jaw line to Karl Urban and thus it is painfully hard to tell who is actually fighting who. It all ends up like watching someone else play a video game on an easy setting.
Never noticed any blusher on the corrupt judges personally. With 'rouge' and 'spoliers', it sounds like the guy is talking French. AND NOBODY WANTS THAT.
I left a post but it won't show? never mind on with my life.
If you want to, you can pick apart any action/genre film as being 'for adolescents'. It's completely null and void as a criticism. You could just as easily accuse Drive of being 'for adolescents'. And for the record, Dredd is nothing like Drive.
As for the article itself, sorry, but I simply don't respect the opinion of a 'writer' or a 'critic' who makes several glaring spelling and grammatical errors and evidently can't tell the difference between 'losing' and loosing' or 'rogue' and 'rouge'.
From the quality of his writing it sounds as if he's too young to have legally watched the film anyway.
He's whining not reviewing.
Wouldn't even bother commenting on this 'article'...the title alone shows the level on journalism on display here.
He lost me at sucked. Sure use bad English when you're spouting rubbish on a forum* but I expect more from a a professional writer,especially one who want's me to take his or her opinion seriously.
Fell at the first hurdle.
*Which I'm guilty of with almost every post.
Quotebut I expect more from a a professional writer
My guess is that he's not a professional writer, but that's the internet for you.
Quote from: QuickQuag on 14 September, 2012, 10:08:02 AM
Whoah. SomethingAwful.com gives it 48/50
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/current-movie-reviews/dredd-words-oogieloves.php
With an impressive final comment:
QuoteDirector Pete Travis has constructed a brilliantly layered, hard-hitting and interesting sci-fi action film that I wish anybody working at Marvel Films had the sheer audacity to even attempt.
One of the most interesting, thoughtful and impressive film reviews I can remember reading in a long while, followed by WC ,the dumbest review I have ever read.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 14 September, 2012, 01:19:48 PM
while, followed by WC ,the dumbest review I have ever read.
It's all in the name, isn't it?
Turned up this one, via Twitter. Another thoughtful, thoroughly positive review to take the nasty taste of that WC one away...
http://serenitywomble.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/review-dredd-3d/
Cheers
Jim
and...
http://www.birminghammail.net/what-is-on-in-birmingham/2012/09/14/film-review-dredd-3d-97319-31834600/
If you're going to base your review partially on what the weather was like, you've really got fuck-all business being a reviewer.
Apparently the Sweeney blew him away the night before.
"There's been a wobbery - an armed wobbery!"
He prefers mockney hell to future hell on a sunny day.
The man is obviously an imbecile.
The Metro gave The Sweeney four stars today despite pointing out in the review that -
"the plot's not much cop and the script doesn't merely embrace cliché, it buys it a pint and a bag of crisps – but check your brain in at the door and enjoy the chases, is my advice."
Hmm. Sounds great...
The review is peppered with "GERTCHA, lavverly jabberly" mockney which makes me imagine the voice of the office nob head telling me that Ray Winstone is a 'proper ledge'.
The Sweeney already has some attention-grabbing review quotes on it's ads though. Granted they're all from Nuts and Loaded, but it's the quotes that people will notice.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 14 September, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Turned up this one, via Twitter. Another thoughtful, thoroughly positive review to take the nasty taste of that WC one away...
http://serenitywomble.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/review-dredd-3d/
Cheers
Jim
Was just on my way to link to this, but ya beat me to it! Glad I read through the past few pages to check that I wasn't repeating things. Of important note with this review is that she isn't a previous fan of the comics, is a very different demographic to the imagined tooth regulars, and she loved it. Nice one Dredd!
SIGHT AND SOUND gave it a really good review. No marks out of ten for their reviews but they name it as one of their films of the month.
They also have a nice article by the, admittedly slightly biased, Kim Newman.
Great review:
"Smarter than any comic-book film this year......Only someone with little common sense would compare Dredd to the recent actioner, The Raid......Dredd is not only a promising start of a potential franchise, but a smart science-fiction picture disguised as an action flick. Nicely done...."
http://latino-review.com/2012/09/14/film-review-dredd-3d/ (http://latino-review.com/2012/09/14/film-review-dredd-3d/)
'Dredd 3D' Better Than 'The Dark Knight Rises'?
http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk (http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk)
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 14 September, 2012, 10:50:50 PM
'Dredd 3D' Better Than 'The Dark Knight Rises'?
http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk (http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk)
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 September, 2012, 11:34:50 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 14 September, 2012, 10:50:50 PM
'Dredd 3D' Better Than 'The Dark Knight Rises'?
http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk (http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk)
Agreed.
Quote from: SneakeeX on 14 September, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-why-dredd-sucked.php
suspicious - I've never seen a movie review that requires you to click onto an new page every paragraph - I suspect that they specialise in pointlessly provocative reviews to generate click-taffic. I clicked through 4 pages of that bullshit before giving up.
Quote from: Dandontdare on 14 September, 2012, 11:49:32 PM
suspicious - I've never seen a movie review that requires you to click onto an new page every paragraph -
This seems to me, definately a trend, and one that I'm encountering more and more often, the reason?-exactly as you describe.
You thought we had bad reviews:
the truth is that it's utter trash from quite literally the first frame to the last.
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/09/second-opinion-dredd-3d-2012.html
That aint a review: that's an attention-grabbing bitch.
I think we knew these bad reviews would come. But it's pretty cool, it didn't feel real before as it was almost too positive.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 September, 2012, 12:37:48 AM
You thought we had bad reviews:
the truth is that it's utter trash from quite literally the first frame to the last.
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/09/second-opinion-dredd-3d-2012.html
From the review:
Bear in mind this film features a drug called Slo-Mo which give the director a reason to - you guessed it - slow the
film down to about two frames per second in an attempt to look 'cool' over and over again. It's really amateur stuff and executed as badly as I've seen at the cinema.
Um, this guy doesn't even understand how moving pictures work. Two frames per second? You're fucking stupid.
I guess we can take comfort in the fact that review aggregate sites like Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic only acknowledge reviews by people they've deemed credible reviewers, so all this amateur journal Internet flaming of the film won't affect it's standing on those sites.
I think this is a new one:
http://theshellcase.co.uk/2012/09/16/dredd-a-review/
SPOILERS in that review, BTW.
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Dandontdare on 14 September, 2012, 11:49:32 PM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 14 September, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-why-dredd-sucked.php
suspicious - I've never seen a movie review that requires you to click onto an new page every paragraph - I suspect that they specialise in pointlessly provocative reviews to generate click-taffic. I clicked through 4 pages of that bullshit before giving up.
is anyone going to tell them that a strip that started 2 years before Thatcher came to power cannot have been a reaction to her government?
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 September, 2012, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 14 September, 2012, 11:34:50 PM
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 14 September, 2012, 10:50:50 PM
'Dredd 3D' Better Than 'The Dark Knight Rises'?
http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk (http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk)
Agreed.
Hmmm everybody should go 'like' this video as it seems TDKR fanboys are voting it down for daring to suggest anything could be better than their precious.
In fact I felt compelled to comment:
What is most disturbing about the extreme reactions of certain people to anyone who dares to suggest that TDKR is less than perfect is that they seem to think the human race should be an army of clones, all united in lockstep in their praise of the Mighty Dark Knight. A film is art. Art is subjective. I'm happy for those that truly love TDKR, as they have gotten what they wanted and that's good. However, if you need the validation of everybody else loving it just as much, something is wrong.
I thought TDKR was pretty good.. But it had loads of cash thrown at it, as well as batman sells regardless.. Value for money I reckon Dredd wins hands down..
Early days, but it looks like Resident evil: rehash retribution won't be a big worry: http://www.dustinputman.com/reviews/r/12_residentevil5.htm
Quote from: Michaelvk on 16 September, 2012, 10:58:22 AM
I thought TDKR was pretty good...
Yeah but I don't think you're likely to hurl insults at anybody who disagrees.
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 14 September, 2012, 10:50:50 PM
'Dredd 3D' Better Than 'The Dark Knight Rises'?
http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk (http://youtu.be/ka5RE0JDhhk)
There's something very appealing about the way that show is presented, can't quite figure out what it is ;)
As for the negative blog ones, don't read them, they're small opinions that dont deserve the revenue you're giving them by clicking on them. As someone said, the "whatculture" thing is just generating money by spreading it out, while tricking people into thinking it's worth reading cos it looks like the Guardian site (or something like that).
Another new one, I think: The somewhat dodgy-looking AskMen -- "...pretty much the most badass film I've ever seen." (http://uk.askmen.com/entertainment/movies/dredd-review.html)
Cheers
Jim
Positive review from The Voice. (http://voice-online.co.uk/article/film-review-dredd-3d)
Very positive review from dvdtimes.co.uk:
http://film.thedigitalfix.com/content/id/75979/dredd.html
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 September, 2012, 12:37:48 AM
You thought we had bad reviews:
the truth is that it's utter trash from quite literally the first frame to the last.
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/09/second-opinion-dredd-3d-2012.html
That review is bullshit from the get go because this film is at pains to depict the human consequences of violence on the people who commit it and are ended by it. It's quite like the America arc in that regard.
Quote from: jamesedwards on 17 September, 2012, 12:13:53 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 September, 2012, 12:37:48 AM
You thought we had bad reviews:
the truth is that it's utter trash from quite literally the first frame to the last.
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/09/second-opinion-dredd-3d-2012.html
That review is bullshit from the get go because this film is at pains to depict the human consequences of violence on the people who commit it and are ended by it. It's quite like the America arc in that regard.
Exactly right.Most films just gloss over it but this does the opposite.Not only that, almost all the 'bad guys' are portayed as individuals not 'faceless' enemies who are cannon fodder,which makes the impact even stronger.
And Ma Ma is a suicidal product of violence.
And we meet a widower and her child.
And we see a teenager chasing a hot get blasted in the face.
And we see a whole bunch of blameless corpses.
And Anderson loses her humanity disturbingly quickly.
And and and
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 17 September, 2012, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: jamesedwards on 17 September, 2012, 12:13:53 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 15 September, 2012, 12:37:48 AM
You thought we had bad reviews:
the truth is that it's utter trash from quite literally the first frame to the last.
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/09/second-opinion-dredd-3d-2012.html
That review is bullshit from the get go because this film is at pains to depict the human consequences of violence on the people who commit it and are ended by it. It's quite like the America arc in that regard.
Exactly right.Most films just gloss over it but this does the opposite.Not only that, almost all the 'bad guys' are portayed as individuals not 'faceless' enemies who are cannon fodder,which makes the impact even stronger.
I think the reviewers coming down from a bad batch of skittles or maybe just after Tookies job???
First opinions from Sov Block - "Movie of the year"
Dunno if this has been posted, gonna repost anyway cause this is the only review i actually really enjoyed reading. Written by someone who knows what he is talking about.
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/current-movie-reviews/dredd-words-oogieloves.php (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/current-movie-reviews/dredd-words-oogieloves.php)
Newsarama Best Shots Review - 5 out of 10
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/best-shots-advance-reviews-120918.html (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/best-shots-advance-reviews-120918.html)
Some fair criticism in there, to be honest. I think the film is better than this reviewer gives it credit for but the action scenes were very much a weak point in Dredd. As I mentioned in my post-screening post, it did at times feel like I was watching somebody else play a computer game.
Still... it's Newsarama. So who cares, right?
FOXNEWS love us:
In a battle of Dredds, Urban would lay waste to Stallone.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/09/19/dredd-3d-is-gritty-love-child-robocop-anddie-hard/
Some more favourite Dredd Tweets:
QuoteYou know something is special when it is loved by both the Village Voice and Fox News #Dredd
QuoteHusband just saw Dredd. He used the words 'awesome' and 'epic'. He is 48.
Quote from: radiator on 19 September, 2012, 05:04:11 PM
Some more favourite Dredd Tweets:
QuoteYou know something is special when it is loved by both the Village Voice and Fox News #Dredd
QuoteHusband just saw Dredd. He used the words 'awesome' and 'epic'. He is 48.
That is all gravy! :D
Anyone know how Metacritic works?I can't understand how Any of the reviews her could be described as mixed! http://www.metacritic.com/movie/dredd/critic-reviews
The men at C.H.U.D. are always hard to please when it comes to genre but they've taken to DREDD- I see this as a good sign:
The Raid is a Tower Defense story set from the perspective of someone trying to conquer the tower. It's as formula as formula gets and nothing new. The emphasis on Dredd's resemblance to The Raid is irrelevant. The Raid is about seeing amazing choreography and inventive use of the human form as a combat weapon. Dredd is a late 80′s/early 90′s genre film packaged for today's audience. It's the Paul Verhoeven movie Paul Verhoeven never made and dollars to donuts it'll be a more authentic Robocop film than the upcoming remake.
http://www.chud.com/108262/tag-team-review-dredd-3d/
That's very good to hear.
Devin Faraci at http://badassdigest.com/ is another very influential and contrary reviewer to watch.
I've been a member of a gaming forum at n-europe for years and they have a general chit chat section where people shoot the shit about everything really.
What will be interesting to you lot is how negative they all were about a Dredd movie and what a poor choice Karl Urban was for the role.
Then they saw the movie - nobody has had a bad word to say about it!
If your curious to see this go here http://www.n-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27673 (http://www.n-europe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27673)
It just shows you how peoples views change when they start hearing good things about something.
Let hope all this positive buzz rubs off in America.
We've had the religious view now we're seeing the political angles of Dredd play-out:
FOXNEWS:
In a battle of Dredds, Urban would lay waste to Stallone.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/09/19/dredd-3d-is-gritty-love-child-robocop-anddie-hard/
The Washington Times
'Judge Dredd': A liberal creation with accidental appeal to conservatives
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/19/movie-review-dredd-3d/
Duel Reviews: Judge Dredd vs. Dredd 3D
http://www.craveonline.com/film/reviews/196257-duel-reviews-judge-dredd-vs-dredd-3d
Who are these`Super Reviewers`on Rotten Tomatoes??Here another strange `review `...
"It is your average movie in my opinion, you have your typical depressed Cop with a hidden past, a sidekick with something to prove, you have a perfect scenerio for a fight to breakout and a drug dealer not happy about being bothered by the police!It is visually stunning and i like the concept of the story howver i didn'tthink it was anything special.Nice to see Lena Headey again and she did well in her villianess role! Its action packed and brutal so thats a good reason to watch it!"
They're mostly 24/7 movie nerds who watch and review absolutely everything while understanding very little. Fascinating species if you don't get too close.
Quote from: Dirty Sanchez on 19 September, 2012, 10:44:32 PM
They're mostly 24/7 movie nerds who watch and review absolutely everything while understanding very little. Fascinating species if you don't get too close.
I'll try not to ;)
I wouldn't be surprised if Romney adopts Dredd as his campaign mascot! :)
Strange Tea, This years biggest suprise - A review of DREDD in glorious 2D.
http://strangetea.com/2012/09/19/this-years-biggest-suprise-a-review-of-dredd-in-glorious-2d/
Probably the most thoughtful review so far.
I think 'super reviewer' generally translates into 'super cunt'
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 20 September, 2012, 12:06:53 AM
I think 'super reviewer' generally translates into 'super cunt'
Bravo!! :lol:
Quote from: CraveNoir on 19 September, 2012, 11:59:30 PM
Strange Tea, This years biggest suprise - A review of DREDD in glorious 2D.
http://strangetea.com/2012/09/19/this-years-biggest-suprise-a-review-of-dredd-in-glorious-2d/
Probably the most thoughtful review so far.
Now that is a wonderful review. Nice find!
Deadspin, Grierson & Leitch: Kill 'Em All
http://deadspin.com/5944593/kill-em-all-dredd-reviewed
Every few months we'll get a straight-up genre movie—Lockout, Safe, The Expendables 2—that wants to be celebrated for how unapologetically old-school, violent-for-violence's-sake it is. Too often, though, these movies feel the need to wink, to undercut themselves with self-deprecation, to let the audience know that the whole thing is really just for fun. Dredd, bless its dark heart, doesn't do that. It starts off in a horrible post-apocalyptic landscape, and it just gets bleaker and meaner from there.
Another happy customer.
Disappointed it only got the capsule review but Entertainment Weekly likes Dredd very much. Gave it a B+: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20483133_20620106,00.html
Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/2012/09/19/review-makes-beautifully-bleak-dredd-pop/FPq31W41AfQD5l7Yw5v7pM/story.html) liked it.
Vindy.com (http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/sep/20/dredd-d-a-dreadful-remake-of-sci-fi-movi/) didn't.
Cheers
Jim
http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more (http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more)
Seattle Times didn't
Quote from: SneakeeX on 20 September, 2012, 09:07:13 AM
http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more (http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more)
Seattle Times didn't
As I'm sure you noticed, that's the same article as the Vindy.
Y
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 20 September, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 20 September, 2012, 09:07:13 AM
http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more (http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more)
Seattle Times didn't
As I'm sure you noticed, that's the same article as the Vindy.
Missed that.
Quote from: SneakeeX on 20 September, 2012, 09:32:19 AM
YQuote from: JOE SOAP on 20 September, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 20 September, 2012, 09:07:13 AM
http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more (http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more)
Seattle Times didn't
As I'm sure you noticed, that's the same article as the Vindy.
Missed that.
QuoteThe 3-D here is used to greatest effect in slow-motion shootings, impalings and throat slashings — blood-on-the-lens stuff. The villain is poorly drawn. The script lets her down, and Headey just isn't "big" enough, in persona, performance and presence, to suggest a murderous monster who ruthlessly slashed and intimidated her way to the top.
Thirlby is sensitive and cute as ever, funny when she has to be. She needs more to do.
And Urban is lost behind that big ol' helmet.
LIES!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone seen RT recently? Down to 85% now! Grrr.
Positive, if rather dry and academic, review in the latest Sight And Sound magazine.
Also feature by Kim Newman and short interview with Alex Garland.
Getting a bit anxious here.. :(
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 20 September, 2012, 10:15:15 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 20 September, 2012, 09:32:19 AM
YQuote from: JOE SOAP on 20 September, 2012, 09:23:23 AM
Quote from: SneakeeX on 20 September, 2012, 09:07:13 AM
http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more (http://seattletimes.com/html/movies/2019193257_mr12dredd.html?prmid=head_more)
Seattle Times didn't
As I'm sure you noticed, that's the same article as the Vindy.
Missed that.
QuoteThe 3-D here is used to greatest effect in slow-motion shootings, impalings and throat slashings — blood-on-the-lens stuff. The villain is poorly drawn. The script lets her down, and Headey just isn't "big" enough, in persona, performance and presence, to suggest a murderous monster who ruthlessly slashed and intimidated her way to the top.
Thirlby is sensitive and cute as ever, funny when she has to be. She needs more to do.
And Urban is lost behind that big ol' helmet.
LIES!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely, I can't believe how opposed my opinions are to those. It's like the reviewer lives in Opposites Land.
There aren't any impalings, throat slashings or blood on the lens.
If you're going to criticise, be accurate. It's your job.
Quote from: Steve Green on 21 September, 2012, 09:10:07 AM
There aren't any impalings, throat slashings or blood on the lens.
If you're going to criticise, be accurate. It's your job.
I was about to say, but you beat me to it..
Twat.. Not you, Steve.. The reviewer..
Denver post likes:
http://www.denverpost.com/movies/ci_21593842/movie-review-dredd-3d
LA times not so much:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-dredd-3d-20120921,0,3925203.story
Neither does Yahoo..
http://news.yahoo.com/dredd-3d-review-action-movie-not-smart-enough-194045378.html
Gagh.. No edit button..
Denver gave it 3 out of 4, but not for the reasons we would.
A lot of these reviews are syndicated like that yahoo one is the same as the Chicago Tribune.
On the up side, mind, reading the comments it appears that while there are a few Dredd = Stallone = Dredd guys out there, but the comments are encouraging..
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 September, 2012, 09:43:08 AM
A lot of these reviews are syndicated like that yahoo one is the same as the Chicago Tribune.
Hate syndicated reviews - it's one step up from our resident troll with his multiple logins.
Infowars, not a review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u1gX0CcHFQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u1gX0CcHFQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Spoiler Alert!
Sidewalk Cinema No. 33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCm-Pr2poxQ
Quote from: CraveNoir on 21 September, 2012, 12:04:16 PM
Sidewalk Cinema No. 33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCm-Pr2poxQ
Fuckin' hell. I wouldn't want to appear on camera if I looked like either of those two.
I'm chuffed that this pair are positive and enthusiastic about the film, but how many times do we have to hear Awesome? Talk about a limited vocabulary.....
American reviewers, please learn some new adjectives ;)
JeremyJahns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjuNE7hAjY
Worth watching for the best use of the c-word in a DREDD review... or probably any review.
I can't watch someone who puts on that affected act (with shitty jump-cuts).
Harry Knowles loves it:http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58478
As does`The Kidd`:http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58477
man im sick of this movie beein called a remake or a raid rip off 1 to quote alex garland its a REALMAKE and the whole raid rip off thing if people dont get it by now that this aint a raid rip off then man do they need help haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPUxa7YXLFM&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPUxa7YXLFM&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Camp Americans review Dredd
Quote from: CraveNoir on 21 September, 2012, 01:59:47 PM
JeremyJahns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjuNE7hAjY
Worth watching for the best use of the c-word in a DREDD review... or probably any review.
That was hilarious :lol:
Quote from: CraveNoir on 21 September, 2012, 01:59:47 PM
JeremyJahns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjuNE7hAjY
Worth watching for the best use of the c-word in a DREDD review... or probably any review.
Rather a funny and also quite a good review. Dude needs to lay off the sugar though. :D
The thing that bothers me about all these negative reviews that have been appearing (apart from I love the film and think anyone who doesn't is a bastard) is they don't seem to actually be reviewing the film properly. All they basically seem to say is 'I don't like action movies.' So give it a negative review based on that opinion.
If they were actually reviewing the film I think they would find it difficult to fault it, the script is tight, the action is great, the visuals are stunning and the soundtrack kicks ass, the acting is superb, and all done on a low budget too! The film is solid all round.
Sure there may be a few problems if you were really looking to be an asshole, but it is a really good film, and I think the long run of 100% was proof of that and now people are just being negative for the sake of it.
Totally Rad Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPUxa7YXLFM
I enjoyed watching this review once I got past the fact I couldn't bear to be in the same room as these people.
USA today likes it..
http://www.usatoday.com/life/story/2012/09/21/dredd-3d-is-a-tersely-comic-futuristic-thriller/57820432/1
..umm.. Is this a good or bad review? http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/09/21/friday-flicks-will-dredd-3d-instill-a-sense-of-dread/
Wall Street Journal quite liked it:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443995604578005201824449348.html
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: CraveNoir on 21 September, 2012, 10:49:23 PM
Totally Rad Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPUxa7YXLFM
I enjoyed watching this review once I got past the fact I couldn't bear to be in the same room as these people.
What the Fuck was that?
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 21 September, 2012, 11:14:29 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 21 September, 2012, 10:49:23 PM
Totally Rad Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPUxa7YXLFM
I enjoyed watching this review once I got past the fact I couldn't bear to be in the same room as these people.
What the Fuck was that?
3 minutes 11.. Couldn't go any further..
Yoou should stick with it, they are incredibly inarticulate.
They can't even manage to do their crappy endorsement at the end right.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 21 September, 2012, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: CraveNoir on 21 September, 2012, 01:59:47 PM
JeremyJahns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjuNE7hAjY
Worth watching for the best use of the c-word in a DREDD review... or probably any review.
That was hilarious :lol:
Jeremy jahns is the man his reviews are great i new he`d enjoy dredd
Great reaction from The Cinema Snob:
http://thecinemasnob.com/2012/09/22/dredd-3d-review.aspx (http://thecinemasnob.com/2012/09/22/dredd-3d-review.aspx)
Is there a correlation between IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes. Just did some comparisons between different movies but in general there is some pattern there.
The Rotten Tomatoes score seems to have come down and inline with the IMDB score. I think a 76% score for Dredd on Rotten Tomatoes would be about right as IMDB has it at about 7.7/10.
You should do a few movies and compare, interesting!
Someone posted this on the neogaf forums - 80's style poster.
(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/185/3/8/dredd_2012_by_n8ma-d55x6lm.jpg)
Quote from: SneakeeX on 22 September, 2012, 07:08:48 PM
Is there a correlation between IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes. Just did some comparisons between different movies but in general there is some pattern there.
The Rotten Tomatoes score seems to have come down and inline with the IMDB score. I think a 76% score for Dredd on Rotten Tomatoes would be about right as IMDB has it at about 7.7/10.
You should do a few movies and compare, interesting!
No, IMDB is closer linked to metacritic.
Quote from: Cookyman on 23 September, 2012, 12:30:43 AM
Someone posted this on the neogaf forums - 80's style poster.
(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/185/3/8/dredd_2012_by_n8ma-d55x6lm.jpg)
Christmas is coming.
'Ho ho ho, creeps!'
I like it. Very Struzan..
Ah jeez BK.
Um. Is that really a helpful link to have on 2000AD's official forum, on the site run by Rebellion, on the week that Dredd opens in US cinemas and the web traffic peaks like never before?
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 23 September, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
Um. Is that really a helpful link to have on 2000AD's official forum, on the site run by Rebellion, on the week that Dredd opens in US cinemas and the web traffic peaks like never before?
I've peaked.
BK, consider this a final warning.
Did Ebert ever get round to reviewing it?
Nothing on his blog yet but everything else is? I'm starting to think there is some superhero protectionism going on here.
Another one from aintitcool:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58531
interview with ALEX GARLAND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGkKfs6kheQ&feature=player_embedded#!
spill.com review
http://www.spill.com/Movie-Reviews/MovieReview.aspx?Name=Dredd&VideoId=523995 (http://www.spill.com/Movie-Reviews/MovieReview.aspx?Name=Dredd&VideoId=523995)
Audio review
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/dredd-audio-review (http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/dredd-audio-review)
Box Office Mojo:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3529&p=.htm
Quote from: Batman's Superior Cousin on 23 September, 2012, 05:39:12 PM
Box Office Mojo:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3529&p=.htm
Dude. Seriously. We get it. Now fuck off.
Quote from: blackmocco on 23 September, 2012, 06:03:34 PM
Dude. Seriously. We get it. Now fuck off.
Great post!
Did you been see it again this weekend?
Quote from: Batman's Superior Cousin on 23 September, 2012, 05:39:12 PM
Box Office Mojo:
http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3529&p=.htm
(http://www.3dworldmag.com/files/2012/01/TDW151.troll_hunter_fur.jpg)
excellent 3d model VIDEO
http://youtu.be/rih13cwgZD4
This is interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GGkKfs6kheQ
cock.. wrong thread.. My bad..
Quote from: Goaty on 23 September, 2012, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: blackmocco on 23 September, 2012, 06:03:34 PM
Dude. Seriously. We get it. Now fuck off.
Great post!
Did you been see it again this weekend?
Saw it twice Friday, Goaty. Would have gone to every screening this weekend but couldn't bring the nine year old. Obviously. Loved it more every time I saw it.
Really good podcast review on iFanboy, well worth a listen:
http://ifanboy.com/podcasts/09-23-2012-dredd-3d/
Strong regular review too:
http://ifanboy.com/articles/movie-review-dredd-3d-spoiler-free/
Write up from my favourite online reviewer of obscure action, shitty horror and pretentious foreign muck. I haven't read it all but the general gist would seem to be that he liked it: http://outlawvern.com/2012/09/23/dredd-3d/#more-15321
Dredd 3D (2012) Movie Review (with a Rant...And Not On What You Think)
http://youtu.be/TtNnfFBxnTE (http://youtu.be/TtNnfFBxnTE)
Quote from: CYCLOPZ on 25 September, 2012, 02:29:11 AM
Dredd 3D (2012) Movie Review (with a Rant...And Not On What You Think)
http://youtu.be/TtNnfFBxnTE (http://youtu.be/TtNnfFBxnTE)
Just as I was gonna go "m'kay, cool.." and turn it off, he starts his rant.. Awesome..
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/09/robert-farago/dredd-3d-gun-porn-with-a-nice-helmet/
Comments slate the know-nothing reviewer..
Dredd 2012 rambling review. Spoilers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmw3CUTKuw0&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmw3CUTKuw0&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Four stars and a pretty decent review in the film magazine that's kicking around in Norwegian cinemas.
Not that I've seen a poster for it anywhere as of yet... Finally out on Friday, anyway.
http://www.filmmagasinet.no/no/Filmanmeldelser/Kino/Anmeldelse-Dredd-3D/
Check this out. Somebody should get this guy on the Dredd movie promotion board.
After reading this I'm looking forward to this film even more, if that's possible.
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/movies/12mv110.htm
One of the most respected movie podcasts reviews Dredd gonna give this a listen!
Filmjunk Podcast
http://www.filmjunk.com/2012/09/24/film-junk-podcast-episode-387-dredd/ (http://www.filmjunk.com/2012/09/24/film-junk-podcast-episode-387-dredd/)
A very enthusiastic review from the popular webcast "The Cinema Snob". They're bouncing with glee the whole way through, and pick up on some of the subtler elements in the presentation.
http://thecinemasnob.com/2012/09/22/dredd-3d-review.aspx
Dredd 3D Angry Review
http://youtu.be/4MtMzdTi-cY (http://youtu.be/4MtMzdTi-cY)
Reviewer seems to understand the comics
Why Did Dredd 3D Bomb? (AKA That's BS, Go SEE Dredd 3D)
http://youtu.be/F9FmRnX6U44 (http://youtu.be/F9FmRnX6U44)
Quote from: The Cosh on 25 September, 2012, 12:58:14 AM
Write up from my favourite online reviewer of obscure action, shitty horror and pretentious foreign muck. I haven't read it all but the general gist would seem to be that he liked it: http://outlawvern.com/2012/09/23/dredd-3d/
So, having finally seen the film tonight I've just read Vern's review. What I find strange is that he gets from the film pretty much everything that makes Dredd interesting as a comic yet I didn't see a lot of it reflected in the movie.
Sample quote:
Quote from: VernI love the smallness of the story. It's just a day on the job for this guy. The world is not at stake, there's no chosen one, no prophecy, not even an assassination attempt or a dirty bomb or anything. It's just the call they chose to respond to, one of several crimes called in at that moment, and they gotta see it through. He doesn't seem impressed when it's over, this is just what he does. More comic book movies should use this approach.
Dredd 3D Parking Lot Reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z6CUhwoAqc
There seems to be a really good push of people trying to get others to go see Dredd which is pretty fantastic.
I hope it works.
Hollywood as I recall goes by the numbers and the numbers for DREDD are not good so any Writer/Director in the future trying to produce something a little bit different will have to aim at the 12A age range to justify any investment to a Film Studio. Bad news for innovation. All you'll get is generic cloned Movies with spectacle winning over plot etc.
Does DREDD 's very modest returns mean that the 12A rules the box office and any, if any sequel is made it will have to be toned down whether we like it or not ?
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 September, 2012, 11:36:40 AM
Does DREDD 's very modest returns mean that the 12A rules the box office and any, if any sequel is made it will have to be toned down whether we like it or not ?
I think Garland was right when he said Dredd might be better suited to a longform TV show. HBO's yet to do anything in the sci-fi genre... hint hint... :P
Max Landis (writer of Chronicle) via Twitter:
@Uptomyknees: I'm just going to say it, and you can hate me if you need too: DREDD 3D is about a billion times better than The Raid: Redemption.
Good on him.
I really liked Chronicle (shares a location with Dredd BTW), and that Death of Superman thing he did was fun.
I didn't twig that he was John Landis' son for ages.
So are you saying that you can't be innovative in a 12a movie? I really don't like this assumption that hardcore gore was the only way to go. And just because I didn't want gore doesn't mean the only alternative is generic Hollywood stuff or the Stallone version.
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 27 September, 2012, 07:50:58 PM
So are you saying that you can't be innovative in a 12a movie? I really don't like this assumption that hardcore gore was the only way to go. And just because I didn't want gore doesn't mean the only alternative is generic Hollywood stuff or the Stallone version.
It's a lot less likely for there to be something like
DREDD again unless it's aimed at a broader audience. As for innovation well a good films a good film whether it's a cheapy made horror flick like
The Evil Dead, The Blair Witch Project all of which were produced on shoestring budgets or the Mega Budget Blockbusters like
Men in Black and
The Lord of the Rings series.
It's going to be a lot harder to take risks in Hollywood as the Director of the new 12A
RoboCop, Jose Padiha found out. Every time he allegedly pitched an idea it was shot down by the Producers who had already decided what sort of Movie
they wanted. His contribution was to shoot the Movie and since the original Vorheoven Picture was filled with slyly anti Capitalist comments, satirising the fact that the differences between Corporate criminals and Street Crooks is almost negligible you can see why they were so keen to keep control.
A multi million dollar Film suggesting Capitalism is shit is not going to get you your Bonus or bit of the Final Gross or whatever else their hoping to get from it. Bland but tasty is much more likely to succeed.
Well that's where the money is after all and Hollywood always follows the money.
I've been watching Roger Ebert's website with some anxiety and trepidation over the last fortnight, but we seem to have dodged a bullet - he hasn't reviewed Dredd. That's actually a positive thing - he absolutely hated The Raid (it's even in his Your Movie Sucks anthology) so I don't imagine that Dredd would fare better, especially when it's in 3D, which is also one of his bugbears.
Another positive review from a genre movie junkie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmJAgd-YUP0&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmJAgd-YUP0&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
There's currently a massive thread on Reddit called Go. See. Dredd.
It was on the front page at one point and is very heartening to read through.
South Africa opens today, hence:
http://www.channel24.co.za/Movies/Reviews/Dredd-3D-20120911
http://www.iol.co.za/tonight/movies/movie-review-dredd-3d-1.1391968#.UGWQu0KsYZM
http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/judge-dredd-star-remembers-dewani-1.1391153#.UGWQvUKsYZM
http://www.iol.co.za/tonight/movies/urban-law-cleans-up-the-streets-1.1392117#.UGWQvkKsYZM
This is an interesting take on the slomo scenes.. (IOL review..)
QuoteThese scenes, in particular, are like comic book splash pages: a full page containing a single image which is just so detailed you need plenty of time to really take it in. Truly inspired splash pages can make a comic book; boring ones are just a lazy way of trying too hard.
Really good review,
http://www.techcentral.co.za/dredd-urban-warfare/35145/
Worryingly, I've actually heard in a couple of podcasts of instances of people totally misinterpreting the ending of Dredd - and thinking Anderson quits when she gives Dredd her badge and storms off...
I do think that it's deliberately left open.
I really don't think it is, especially as they inserted that last shot of her at the end, in full uniform, ready to go.
True but I think that shot might be confusing people.
A lot of people also think Stallone is the original Dredd.. Not twigging that it's Anderson at the end is the least of our worries..
Yeah, aren't they just leaving Peach Trees. Dredd may have passed her but she gives no response. It'll be the ball in her court.
Quote from: Hoagy on 28 September, 2012, 05:55:54 PM
Yeah, aren't they just leaving Peach Trees.
It's the Hall of Justice.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 September, 2012, 05:52:55 PM
True but I think that shot might be confusing people.
I think they lifted that shot from the pre-assessment walk to the bikes scene, and stuck it at the end precisely because there
was some confusion, so without doing any more expensive filming, they needed a shot that showed that she passed and became a judge.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 September, 2012, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: Hoagy on 28 September, 2012, 05:55:54 PM
Yeah, aren't they just leaving Peach Trees.
It's the Hall of Justice.
Is it? I should go watch it again to be sure. ;)
You can see the gates that are outside the Hall steps.
Yeah I guess it's supposed to be peach trees, but she's carrying the helmet from what I remember and originally it's from the beginning but Dredd has been erased from the shot - presumably this was a shot that John suggested.
My review here
http://darrens-world-of-entertainment.blogspot.co.nz/2012/09/dredd-3d-movie-review.html
And i'm being quoted on film posters in local press here too for the film....
Quote from: radiator on 28 September, 2012, 05:48:03 PM
I really don't think it is, especially as they inserted that last shot of her at the end, in full uniform, ready to go.
I can't remember that shot at the end at all, and I have seen it four times. Am I going nuts?
Bit surprised Andersdon passing is confusing, as you see her go to work at the end, helmet in hand.
I can't remember that either,she just stormed off,last I saw she was pushing a medic away?
Blimey, don't know how you all missed that! It's clearly Anderson walking away, helmet under left arm, toward a group of bikes, with other Judges standing around. It's right at the end, just before a Judge goes roaring off up the motorway.
Yeah, she comes out of peach trees, assumes she's failed, refuses med treatment then gets given a helmet and goes out on patrol. There's no attempt made to show a shift in time and it plays as she's just carrying on despite having failed. My wife assumed she'd read dredd's mind and knew she'd passed- but it's not at all clear. I read it as a more generic ending- 'anderson's story ends but the judges carry on because crime is relentless' sort of thing. Makes little sense, anyway.
SBT
This is why I need the BluRay now :)
slight ray of sunshine?
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/reject-recap-looper-saves-studio-sci-fi-dredd-sequel-suggestion-and-36-fantastic-fest-reviews.php (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/reject-recap-looper-saves-studio-sci-fi-dredd-sequel-suggestion-and-36-fantastic-fest-reviews.php)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9eqs24ainQ
Quote from: Michaelvk on 29 September, 2012, 06:04:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9eqs24ainQ
Thats the tonic we need :D
IM GOING FOR DREDD 3D " SLEEPER HIT "
Okay start of video you think .... sh#t, But this, is a class review !! I'm going to see Movie Again on Monday
support BRITISH COMIC 's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MtMzdTi-cY
I just dont understand it. Dredd is swamped with positives over the net and media. Why is it below par in the Box Office?
V
Quote from: vzzbux on 30 September, 2012, 09:42:24 AM
I just dont understand it. Dredd is swamped with positives over the net and media. Why is it below par in the Box Office?
As I said with reference to Serenity: sometimes all the good reviews and positive word of mouth just won't get the general public to go and see the fucking thing. I'm assuming that Serenity was killed by the preconception that you had to have seen the TV series to enjoy it (despite all the reviews stressing that you didn't) and that Dredd has been hobbled by association with the shitty '95 movie (despite all the reviews stressing that it had nothing to with the Stallone movie).
At the risk of engaging the ire of Psychogoatee, I also think that there is something intrinsic to Dredd at a fundamental level that fails to connect with a US audience, in particular.
This is something that I've been turning over in my head... after all, Dredd is Dirty Harry, Dredd is Robocop. Culturally, it interests me to try and discern what it is that being created for British comics changes the character so fundamentally that he fails to connect with US collective psyche in the way that Callahan or Murphy do.
I have a theory: Harry is a loner, asserting his own moral code through the barrel of a gun in the face of an ineffective and largely uncaring establishment; Murphy is a man regaining and asserting his own identity in the face of immoral and corrupt big business who have become the establishment.
These are riffs on the frontier myth: one man stands alone; the sweat of his brow and the gun in his hand define his identity and the individual defines the nation.
Dredd does not defy the establishment: Dredd
is the establishment. The American Dream has failed, government is all-powerful and the people, by and large, don't much care. Dredd is the iron fist of the evil establishment against which Murphy and Callahan rail.
There is a fatalistic acceptance underpinning Dredd that I think is
very British and translating that to a US audience requires them, as their very
first act in engaging with the fictional world of Dredd, to accept that people will effectively hand power to authoritarianism and basically not care very much
what the Judges do as long as it's not
them being beaten to a pulp.
It seems obvious to me two nations are
likely to have very different attitudes to the structures of power when one can trace a fairly linear evolution of the current system of government from the 14th Century to the present, whilst the other was cut pretty much from whole cloth 230 years ago as the result of an act of outright rebellion.
I'm not sure you can reconcile the two within the fictional construct that is Dredd, though.
Cheers
Jim
Interesting take on it, and I think that you are right to a large extent. British sci-fi is always quite a dark and depressing affair, look at Warhammer 40,000 for example, a thoroughly british invention and also incredibly bleak and unforgiving.
I think that Americans secretly long for the shining ray of hope at the end of the tunnel, the paragon of virtue to come in and save the day, look at the mainsream US comics, Superman etc, as examples of this. (Yes I'm aware the US comic market is huge, but the most popular titles are all do-gooder heroes battling obvious evils). Whereas British readers are more than content to be presented with a situation where there is indeed little to no hope and the world really has gone to hell in a handcart.
Bah! Box office schmox office! :) People will always carry on constructing beautiful films which Dredd is shining example of. If the critics and the rest of the world are a bit slow in recognising such raging beauty,heyn what's new?
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 September, 2012, 10:07:25 AM
It seems obvious to me two nations are likely to have very different attitudes to the structures of power when one can trace a fairly linear evolution of the current system of government from the 14th Century to the present, whilst the other was cut pretty much from whole cloth 230 years ago as the result of an act of outright rebellion.
And yet this tension - paternalistic authoritarianism versus individual choice - is what has driven the strip since at least Origins. Maybe since Oz, or even the Dem march. At the level of character, Dredd has increasingly functioned as an outsider within Justice Dept., the lone voice no-one ever heeds until it's too late. Even when he was on the Council his advice was largely ignored. How many times has he chucked his badge on the Chief's desk, McGonigle-style? Of course that's the very tack the first movie took,
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 September, 2012, 10:07:25 AM
I also think that there is something intrinsic to Dredd at a fundamental level that fails to connect with a US audience, in particular.
This is something that I've been turning over in my head... after all, Dredd is Dirty Harry, Dredd is Robocop. Culturally, it interests me to try and discern what it is that being created for British comics changes the character so fundamentally that he fails to connect with US collective psyche in the way that Callahan or Murphy do.
It seems obvious to me two nations are likely to have very different attitudes to the structures of power when one can trace a fairly linear evolution of the current system of government from the 14th Century to the present, whilst the other was cut pretty much from whole cloth 230 years ago as the result of an act of outright rebellion.
I'm not sure you can reconcile the two within the fictional construct that is Dredd, though.
Except of course the film didn't do as well as expected in Britain or in some other countries either.
The
loner-archetype v establishment-figure impediment is not convincing to me because of the surprising reactions I've observed from the US. All tending towards the
very good to
awesome end of the scale.
Not an exact science I know but there's a broad range of average punter reactions to be observed on message boards, twitter and youtube et al. No one mentions the set-up or background of the character as being
off putting in any way - the gore is mentioned on a few - but there are several comments which are common to the vast majority of reviews:
"the trailer made this film look shit but when I saw the film it was a completely different film as to how it was sold." (this is the most common)
"I'm not seeing this, the trailer was horrible". .
"I didn't know this film existed, there was no promotion" (common too)
"There were only 2, or little more than, screenings at the theatre, they were all in the evening when every other film had at least 5 a day".
"It was in 3D with no 2D screenings. I'm not paying for 3D I hate it, why is it in 3D?""No major stars in any roles".
"That Stallone film was crap, why should I see this"."Where's Stallone? It's not a Judge Dredd film without Stallone. I'm not watching this".These comments suggest a disconnect between the promotion, a lack of awareness and the viewing format was too restrictive- none of the
new films in the Top Ten that week were 3D.
Going back to the original cultural point. Dredd isn't really portrayed as being 'unheroic', there's still good guys v bad guys even if rather relativist - the trope remains - but he's still a rather laconic yet charismatic
badass that you can root for regardless of what he represents.
I've read quite a few say they'd like to know more about the characters and also the fascist background of the Judges and that the film made them want to know more. This was the over-riding postive comment from those who've seen it and liked it, the film made them want to see sequels set in the wider context of Mega-City 1.
Everyone knew Dredd was not for the
masses but the reason for its underperfomance, even in its target audience of 18-40 year old men, I don't believe is related to character.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 September, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
The loner-archetype v establishment-figure impediment is not convincing to me because of the surprising reactions I've observed from the US.
All fair points, Joe, but don't go very far to explain the wider failure of Dredd to gain traction in the US despite two films with radically different approaches to the subject matter, a computer game, a range of comics by one of the country's two biggest publishers and a reprint programme splashing some of the biggest names in US comics across the covers.
There's
something here that seems more fundamental, to me.
Cheers
Jim
I can never understand that specific 'the trailer looked shvt' argument re Dredd. I thought the trailer looked great and was representative of the movie.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 September, 2012, 12:01:45 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 September, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
The loner-archetype v establishment-figure impediment is not convincing to me because of the surprising reactions I've observed from the US.
All fair points, Joe, but don't go very far to explain the wider failure of Dredd to gain traction in the US despite two films with radically different approaches to the subject matter, a computer game, a range of comics by one of the country's two biggest publishers and a reprint programme splashing some of the biggest names in US comics across the covers.
There's something here that seems more fundamental, to me.
Is Dredd any more popular in the US than worldwide? We're focusing on the US because it's a bigger market but how popular is Dredd in France or Japan?
I don't think Dredd would have a wide reaching audience appeal anywhere but the wildly variant quality and 'schizophrenic' nature of the stuff that's been peddled for the US before now didn't help to promote the character.
Practically every version of Dredd that's been sold to them is inconsistent with another: Eagle/Quality reprint, '95 film, DC version, Case Files, the new film etc.
Over time I think we'll be surprised to find that the one decent and relatively consistent representation of the character we now have on film will actually increase the popularity and awareness of the character in the US.
Quote from: BPP on 30 September, 2012, 12:06:11 PM
I can never understand that specific 'the trailer looked shvt' argument re Dredd. I thought the trailer looked great and was representative of the movie.
We're fans though, any bit of moving footage with Dredd and Lawmaster bikes will please us. You need to see it from the perspective an audience who know nothing. You can't sell them a 'Judge Dredd' film. You need to sell it as a film they'll enjoy.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 September, 2012, 12:17:37 PM
Is Dredd any more popular in the US than worldwide? We're focusing on the US because it's a bigger market but how popular is Dredd in France or Japan?
Surely, the US is the natural place to focus because 1) the strip is set there, and 2) the books don't need translating?
If there have been efforts to push Dredd in France or Japan, I'd be genuinely interested to know they've turned out. I'm
curious about the US because it would so clearly
seem to be a natural fit but, on the face of it, appears to be remarkably resistant to Ol' Stony Face's charms.
Cheers
Jim
Are we not expecting too much though?
Personally I think there's a large enough audience for Dredd in the US - and globally - but not of the kind that elevates it to Batman status. All Punisher films adehere to the Loner/vigilante trope yet they all failed, regardless of quality.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 September, 2012, 12:34:58 PM
If there have been efforts to push Dredd in France or Japan,
On a side note, the film isn't even released in France and won't be as fas I know. Japan, I've yet to hear.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 30 September, 2012, 12:43:35 PM
Are we not expecting too much though?
I suspect a large chunk of this, now that you mention it!
Cheers
Jim
Sad to think that Dredd 3D doesn't get theatrical release in Japan, while Starship troopers 3 did.
It's also unfortunate that there's no proper place in the theatre-market for mid-budget action films. Not every film is suited to make most of its money within a box-office month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7J6RO3Lc6s&feature=related This guy really loves the film. Great review, love the passion :)
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/22840/the-current-state-of-dredd
http://nerdarray.com/dredd-3d-review-2/
According to a mate of mine in Japan, Dredd isn't getting a theatrical release there.
http://thecinemasnob.com/2012/09/22/dredd-3d-review.aspx
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 29 September, 2012, 01:40:55 PM
Blimey, don't know how you all missed that! It's clearly Anderson walking away, helmet under left arm, toward a group of bikes, with other Judges standing around. It's right at the end, just before a Judge goes roaring off up the motorway.
Apparently there are different cuts of the movie?
I've read some posts where a lot of the violence was edited out. Black screens and cutaways with the gunshot noises.
Also apparently songs playing over the credits, where I know when I saw it, there were no songs, only more of the musical score.
Any chance he saw a different cut, that didn't that scene?
I don't remember it in my theater either. It ends with Dredd giving his monologue. I don't remember the camera ever cutting away from Dredd, after seeing Anderson walk past the medic.
Another review worth checking out!
http://comicattack.net/2012/09/mmdredd2012/ (http://comicattack.net/2012/09/mmdredd2012/)
Hope you all enjoy!
The Smart Narrative Choices of Dredd
http://sequart.org/magazine/15864/building-a-better-dredd-the-smart-narrative-choices-of-dredd-2012/
And if you didn't catch the analysis from last week:
Dredd as Violent Morality Play
http://sequart.org/magazine/15754/dredd-as-violent-morality-play/
check out this link
good review BUT check out the DICK in the middle what is it with these folk !!!!!
http://youtu.be/fCEg4SsHVkE
Quote from: junox on 02 October, 2012, 09:14:47 AM
check out this link
good review BUT check out the DICK in the middle what is it with these folk !!!!!
http://youtu.be/fCEg4SsHVkE
Did i hear him say the bullets fly never hitting dredd what an asshole,
he shits all over it then gives it a 6.5 outa 10 not a bad score for a movie he pretty much hammers
he thinks the raid is 10xs better get a grip >:(
One of the most intelligent reviews I've watched.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA4rTd36E0A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA4rTd36E0A)
My own, slightly humourous review:
http://thegolar.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/dredd-justice-has-a-price-the-price-is-11-95-9-95-if-you-bring-your-own-3d-glasses/ (http://thegolar.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/dredd-justice-has-a-price-the-price-is-11-95-9-95-if-you-bring-your-own-3d-glasses/)
Well, it opens in NZ tonight! I'm not sure if anyone's posted reviews yet from the homeland of Mr Urban, so here goes:
New Zealand Herald: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/movies/news/article.cfm?c_id=200&objectid=10838170 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/movies/news/article.cfm?c_id=200&objectid=10838170) (4/5 stars)
Plus earlier interview, with cover tag-line "I am the JAW!!" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/movies/news/article.cfm?c_id=200&objectid=10836679 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/movies/news/article.cfm?c_id=200&objectid=10836679)
Stuff Auckland (there'll probably be a more full review this weekend): http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/whats-on/film/7747461/Film-review-Dredd (http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/whats-on/film/7747461/Film-review-Dredd) (2.5/5 - boo!)
And today's interview with Urban, feature tag-line "Dawn of the Dredd": http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/7764916/Kiwi-actors-dawn-of-the-Dredd (http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/7764916/Kiwi-actors-dawn-of-the-Dredd)
Hoping to do my bit for the Kiwi box office this weekend...
The most comprehensive review of Dredd yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCuWD3KYw4
Dredd: A Brilliant Portrayal of Women in Comics (http://www.comicbookgrrrl.com/2012/10/03/dredd-a-brilliant-portrayal-of-women-in-comics/)
This one's awesome:
http://www.movieguide.org/reviews/movie/dredd.html
Also somewhat hazy on the details.. Such as saying there were 2 car chases..
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 October, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
The most comprehensive review of Dredd yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCuWD3KYw4
Beyond his comprehension. Quite.
A classic case of Greater Spotted Thrill Sucker activity. I prescribe a double dose of 2000ad shot straight into the bloodstream.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 October, 2012, 04:48:04 PMThe most comprehensive review of Dredd yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCuWD3KYw4
Hard to comprehend!
Thank Fuck I didn't sit next to him in the pictures.
Apologies if already posted but this review made me laugh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzbvmx0Fro4
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 October, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
The most comprehensive review of Dredd yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCuWD3KYw4
Really makes me wonder why somebody puts up a video with no planning, no idea what they're going to say, no presentation skills and no understanding of said film, or English.
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 05 October, 2012, 01:52:58 AM
Apologies if already posted but this review made me laugh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzbvmx0Fro4
Papa's not too keen on Mama.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 04 October, 2012, 11:04:25 PM
This one's awesome:
http://www.movieguide.org/reviews/movie/dredd.html
Also somewhat hazy on the details.. Such as saying there were 2 car chases..
They need to use some of those quotes on the DVD packaging, especially: "as much blood and bodily fluids as possible in 3D flying off the screen and at the audience" and my favourite, "Very strong miscellaneous immorality"
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 October, 2012, 10:45:01 PM
Dredd: A Brilliant Portrayal of Women in Comics (http://www.comicbookgrrrl.com/2012/10/03/dredd-a-brilliant-portrayal-of-women-in-comics/)
That's a really good article!
On the topic of women in Dredd;
Earlier in the thread, Jim posted a link to this reviewer's Dredd thoughts. This is her review of Looper, and it can be boiled down (for our biased eyes) to "I wish Looper was more like Dredd"
http://serenitywomble.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/review-looper-aka-it-would-have-been-so-easy-not-to-be-sexist-why/ (http://serenitywomble.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/review-looper-aka-it-would-have-been-so-easy-not-to-be-sexist-why/)
RED LETTER MEDIA: LOOPER & DREDD (http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-looper-and-dredd/)
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 October, 2012, 01:46:34 PM
RED LETTER MEDIA: LOOPER & DREDD (http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-looper-and-dredd/)
Nice to see that somebody gets the subtext in the movie and that its not just a straight forward no brain shoot-em-up.
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 05 October, 2012, 07:28:04 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 04 October, 2012, 10:45:01 PM
Dredd: A Brilliant Portrayal of Women in Comics (http://www.comicbookgrrrl.com/2012/10/03/dredd-a-brilliant-portrayal-of-women-in-comics/)
That's a really good article!
And Cam Kennedy was sitting behind her, talking during the film. I wonder if he was kicking the back of her chair, slurping his juice loudly through his straw, and phoning his missus to ask whether he should pick up some milk on the way home too?
very positive review from public Beyond The Trailer :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoYbEyVoFDE
Comedy writer/actor
Jay Baruchel (
Knocked Up, Goon, the forthcoming
Robocop reboot) seems to have rather enjoyed Dredd...
Quote@BaruchelNDG
DREDD 3D was a religious experience. #holyfuck #whymovietheatresexist
A very well written and lengthy article on Dredd 3D: 5 Reasons Why It Flopped At The Box Office
http://whatculture.com/film/dredd-3d-5-reasons-why-it-flopped-at-the-box-office.php (http://whatculture.com/film/dredd-3d-5-reasons-why-it-flopped-at-the-box-office.php)
Radio NZ ran a very positive review this morning, also gave a good mini-background of 2000ad.
The review's at the bottom of the list of files: (should be accessible outside NZ, apologies if not):
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon (http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon)
Quote from: Syne on 09 October, 2012, 08:08:05 AM
Radio NZ ran a very positive review this morning, also gave a good mini-background of 2000ad.
The review's at the bottom of the list of files: (should be accessible outside NZ, apologies if not):
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon (http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon)
That was an awesome review.. C'MON NEW ZEALAND!!!
Disappointingly, Australian Empire have re-run Chris Hewitt's "great movie, three stars" review from their UK counterpart. Wouldn't a flamin' journo from the country that gave us Mad Max and Chopper have had something interesting to say about Dredd?
http://www.empireonline.com.au/reviews/films/2012/10/dredd/review/ (http://www.empireonline.com.au/reviews/films/2012/10/dredd/review/)
Quote from: sauchie on 24 October, 2012, 11:01:43 AM
Disappointingly, Australian Empire have re-run Chris Hewitt's "great movie, three stars" review from their UK counterpart. Wouldn't a flamin' journo from the country that gave us Mad Max and Chopper have had something interesting to say about Dredd?
http://www.empireonline.com.au/reviews/films/2012/10/dredd/review/ (http://www.empireonline.com.au/reviews/films/2012/10/dredd/review/)
Aye Sauchie, that review was one of the most annoying that I read but only because of the rating they gave the film! Everything seemed very positive about the film so I would have expected the reviewer to offer more criticisms to explain why he awarded the film three rather than four stars. Frustrating!
The reviewer actually later admitted (on the Empire podcast) that he should have given it four stars.
urgh! When that Empire Review was first out, I wasn't happy with it as I think that reviewer was pointless to repeats bring up The Raid etc... and now they still use it in Aus? Not fair!
Quote from: radiator on 24 October, 2012, 12:31:57 PM
The reviewer actually later admitted (on the Empire podcast) that he should have given it four stars.
Well, I have to applaud his honesty then. I don't understand why they can't update their reviews if they feel they were too harsh / kind to a film though.
http://thefineartdiner.blogspot.se/2012/09/96-unemployment-dredd-socialist-state.html
Quite strange read. Strong Glenn Beck/Alex Jones-vibes. Everything in the movie is apparently linked to the united states of America, even Anderson's hair colour :eh:
Quote from: The Bissler on 24 October, 2012, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 October, 2012, 12:31:57 PM
The reviewer actually later admitted (on the Empire podcast) that he should have given it four stars.
Well, I have to applaud his honesty then. I don't understand why they can't update their reviews if they feel they were too harsh / kind to a film though.
I am pretty sure they do that sometimes. I swear Predator was listed a 5 star film at some point, maybe for the blu-ray release or something but on their website it is 4. Slack jawed faggots.
They should give Dredd 4 stars for the dvd/blu-ray release.
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 October, 2012, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 24 October, 2012, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 October, 2012, 12:31:57 PM
The reviewer actually later admitted (on the Empire podcast) that he should have given it four stars.
Well, I have to applaud his honesty then. I don't understand why they can't update their reviews if they feel they were too harsh / kind to a film though.
I am pretty sure they do that sometimes. I swear Predator was listed a 5 star film at some point, maybe for the blu-ray release or something but on their website it is 4. Slack jawed faggots.
They should give Dredd 4 stars for the dvd/blu-ray release.
That's twice today I've seen you use homosexual slang as a negative, you should consider that some gay people might be offended by it.
'Slack jawed faggots' is a prominent quote from Predator, so I doubt it was meant nastily.
Quote from: James on 25 October, 2012, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 24 October, 2012, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: The Bissler on 24 October, 2012, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: radiator on 24 October, 2012, 12:31:57 PM
The reviewer actually later admitted (on the Empire podcast) that he should have given it four stars.
Well, I have to applaud his honesty then. I don't understand why they can't update their reviews if they feel they were too harsh / kind to a film though.
Sorry. Yeah it was a just a funny insult Blaine uses in Predator when people refuse to have some of his chewing tobacco. Great scene.
Not sure what the other one was.
I am pretty sure they do that sometimes. I swear Predator was listed a 5 star film at some point, maybe for the blu-ray release or something but on their website it is 4. Slack jawed faggots.
They should give Dredd 4 stars for the dvd/blu-ray release.
That's twice today I've seen you use homosexual slang as a negative, you should consider that some gay people might be offended by it.
Hmm, something went wrong with the quote. But anyway, sorry.
http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/10/09/981151/why-dredd-is-really-a-superheroine-movie/
Interesting analysis of Anderson and Ma-Ma by Alyssa Rosenberg. The same Alyssa who assisted an analysis America on Dredd Reckoning.
Someone with the username WhatCulture just posted on the IMDB Dredd forum that they have an interview with Pete Travis pending. Assuming they're a representative of the site of the same name, that'll be worth keeping an eye on.
Howard Stern on DREDD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLg5WrlMG6o&t=13m18s)
http://hellotailor.blogspot.se/2012/09/the-new-judge-dredd-movie-is-great.html
"This is an ideal girl-nerd action movie."
Quote from: Borntohula on 11 November, 2012, 06:11:30 PM
http://hellotailor.blogspot.se/2012/09/the-new-judge-dredd-movie-is-great.html
"The surprising 95% Rotten Tomatoes rating and the presence of Cersei Lannister as the primary villain (!!!), however, were enough for me to give it a try"
"95% Rotten Tomatoes rating". Those were the days, eh?
"After watching Dredd, I realised that the reason why it seemed so... weird, I guess... is that it didn't follow the kind of predictable cliches I was expecting. This type of movie -- especially one with an adults-only rating -- usually has very poorly-drawn characters and a lot of throwbacks to grindhouse cinema, but despite Dredd's plethora of extreme violence it never really went that route. Although it has the basic plot of a shoot-em-up videogame, the decision and emotional reactions made by the characters were far, far more intelligent and realistic than other movies of the genre"Cheers for that,
Hula; I'll keep it in my pocket for the next time
clr03f starts banging on about how this film only appeals to teenage boys.
Quote from: sauchie on 11 November, 2012, 06:42:08 PM
Quote from: Borntohula on 11 November, 2012, 06:11:30 PM
http://hellotailor.blogspot.se/2012/09/the-new-judge-dredd-movie-is-great.html
"The surprising 95% Rotten Tomatoes rating and the presence of Cersei Lannister as the primary villain (!!!), however, were enough for me to give it a try"
"95% Rotten Tomatoes rating". Those were the days, eh?
"After watching Dredd, I realised that the reason why it seemed so... weird, I guess... is that it didn't follow the kind of predictable cliches I was expecting. This type of movie -- especially one with an adults-only rating -- usually has very poorly-drawn characters and a lot of throwbacks to grindhouse cinema, but despite Dredd's plethora of extreme violence it never really went that route. Although it has the basic plot of a shoot-em-up videogame, the decision and emotional reactions made by the characters were far, far more intelligent and realistic than other movies of the genre"
Cheers for that, Hula; I'll keep it in my pocket for the next time clr03f starts banging on about how this film only appeals to teenage boys.
Good idea! But it seems like if he's absent from IMDB now. Could be he's learning german towards the premiere there or writing material for the bluray/dvd release? Hopefully I'll never need to know.
But to the analysis itself. Love it that the movie is gaining momentum with women. Gives me hope that I'll someday find the perfect lady, who also happen to like DREDD tihi.
Dredd opened in Gemany and Switzerland yesterday. Rooting around for German press on the film, I've had to use google to translate any phrase much more complicated than 'Dredd is a film'. It's not perfect, but you get the jist and it's often unintentionally funny. The film seems to be getting the same mostly positive reviews there as it has everywhere else, but we all know by now that doesn't translate (ahem) into box office:
"Rampant remake craze in Hollywood makes even before the most dubious genre classics not stop. Action and sci-fi editions, prequels, sequels - from "A-Team" to "Total Recall" remains in the drawer of history nothing is hidden any longer. So now "Dredd", and even in 3D. The supposed Yawn is based loosely on the then verrissenen but commercially successful "Judge Dredd" from 1995, starring Sylvester Stallone in the lead role. And who now expects dull action, much banging and little action, the suspects only half the story.
U.S. East Coast, in the distant future: The civilized world as we know it no longer exists. The people live in a few mega-cities. The largest of them, Mega City One, extending from Boston to Washington, DC. Murder, corruption and designer drugs influence daily life of 800 million inhabitants. Gangs reign responsible streets and skyscrapers, six crimes per minute, 17,000 per day. In one of these skyscrapers Ma-Ma ruled (nice greasy: "Game of Thrones" star Lena Headey). Their mercenaries take on any floor or the power of the other bands. A case for law enforcement Judge Dredd (Karl Urban), who will, with beginner and medium Anderson (Olivia Thirlby), released at his side, in the high rise of Ma-Ma fair game. But the course has made her statement without Dredds robotic fighting spirit and tenacity.
The story of "Dredd" represents only the basic settings - Post Apocalypse, megacities, Judges - his Hollywood template "Judge Dredd". The plot is a different, duller without twin brothers from the test tube and Desert Exile. It is action packed, but the genre unfortunately, nothing new: In the summer, only turned in the Indonesian martial arts film "The Raid" is all about as high a body count, and a special unit to fight their way through a controlled by a drug cartel skyscraper needs.
"Dredd" still works. Not only because it is well known in action movies only secondarily comes to the plot. Because of the little subtle social critique? Also given. No, because of his splatter ends, hyper-realistic and thus more comic and manga-related design and a gloomy colorful imagery that is more carnage than scary. Contrary to fly like the audience in the cinema hall blood, body parts and bullets in that slow-motion, which also take the junkies in the film: This justifies the 3D production and shows finally, what can the technology if it is used for more than just a few extra dollars to make at the box office.
A real hero has "Dredd" to be recorded yet: Karl Urban confident in a Leading Role, whose face remains hidden for 90 minutes under a protective shield of the helmet. Judge Dredd has therefore nothing but the expression below the nose - and his mouth in order to tap his voluntary and unintentionally comical sayings. And that would have the Sylvester Stallone, the Judge Dredd of time, personally can hardly manage better."
http://www.movie-magazin.de/dredd (http://www.movie-magazin.de/dredd)
The Stallone film wasn't commercially successful and the comedy from Dredd's dry, sardonic quips is entirely intentional; Germans are usually so much more efficient and thorough than this, but it's still a decent review. Anyone know what particularly German quality the Stallone film embodied that is signified by the untranslatable word 'verrissenen'?
Description of Rob Schneider?
Quote from: Steve Green on 16 November, 2012, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: sauchie on 16 November, 2012, 02:23:24 PM
Anyone know what particularly German quality the Stallone film embodied that is signified by the untranslatable word 'verrissenen'?
Description of Rob Schneider?
That make sense. I don't think there's a word in the English language that adequately describes Rob Schneider either.
Little miffed after reading comments by some twat on youtube claiming to be a fan of the comic and that the stallone film was better because it captured a "great side of Dredd" and the new film took the kids approach with the seriouse look which didn't work. What a total fucking moron!
Sorry, just had to get that out.
I love that google-translated review - "nice greasy Lena Headey" is my favourite bit.
Just stumbled across this site - DREDD REPORT. (http://www.dreddreport.com/)
Has this been mentioned before?
I guess it must have been, but i dont recall seeing anything about it on here.
(The various Dredd film threads all have a high page count now, so its easy to miss stuff.)
Quote from: Judge Jack on 16 November, 2012, 11:10:37 PM
Just stumbled across this site - DREDD REPORT. (http://www.dreddreport.com/)
Has this been mentioned before?
I guess it must have been, but i dont recall seeing anything about it on here.
(The various Dredd film threads all have a high page count now, so its easy to miss stuff.)
I believe that was one of the promotional sites made for the movie. It's an obvious parody of DrudgeReport, I love it.
Yes, it is great isnt it. Its like a one stop shop for Dredd.
Cant believe i'd missed it, and any mention of it, until now!
Quote from: sauchie on 16 November, 2012, 02:23:24 PM
Anyone know what particularly German quality the Stallone film embodied that is signified by the untranslatable word 'verrissenen'?
Slated or panned. It's just Google Translate struggling with tenses.
Quote from: The Cosh on 19 November, 2012, 12:44:46 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 16 November, 2012, 02:23:24 PM
Anyone know what particularly German quality the Stallone film embodied that is signified by the untranslatable word 'verrissenen'?
Slated or panned. It's just Google Translate struggling with tenses.
Danke,
Cosh.
Verrissenen is actually a nice word to use..
"..what did you think of Stallone's Judge Dredd?" "I thought I was bloody verrissen, I did.."
41 of Total Film's best 50 films of 2012.
http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-best-movies-of-2012/dredd (http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-best-movies-of-2012/dredd)
List instantly rendered a laughing stock by a) including Prometheus b) placing it above Dredd.
Yeah, that list makes no sense at all. It's opinion and all that, but logically it makes no sense whatsoever. How The Raid can be placed about 40 places above Dredd and at number 4 is ludicrous, especially considering that Dredd is the original of the two. It's not even a case of being blinkered because I'm a Dredd fan either. The Raid just isn't as good or well made as Dredd is full stop. If the two films are so similar according to them, then why not place Dredd and The Raid in a similar standing like 10 and 11 respectively? Why the huge gap in between, and the fact that the likes of TED, Chronicle and Prometheus is rated above it makes me think they are just going by internet popularity than anything else.
The Raid is as well-made as Dredd.
Chronicle placed higher as well. :-\
Dark Knight Rises- More holes in that movie than Swiss cheese and placed 6th. Majority of people who has seen it has been very meh about it. Anyone that has seen DREDD have been raving about it.
Disappointing list from a ranking point of view with some odd placings but I will check out some of the movies recommended.
I cant be bothered with that, or any similar list. Pfft.
My only issue is with Prometheus, which even it's most vocal defenders have to admit is a very flawed film indeed. It doesn't belong on the 'best of' anything.
How about best disappointments?
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 December, 2012, 11:10:56 PM
How about best disappointments?
Box office or critical?
Quote from: Rusty on 12 December, 2012, 04:32:13 PM
Yeah, that list makes no sense at all. [spoiler]It's opinion and all that[/spoiler]...The Raid just isn't as good or well made as Dredd is full stop.
And this is just your opinion...
It's only a list on a website, nothing to get worked up about.
But FWIW, in my opinion, The Raid is easily and equal to Dredd as an action movie.
Do you deliberately troll everyone's posts like this for the sake of it or what? I've already said it was opinion, no need for you to nitpick to point that out for me, thanks.
BTW, if The Raid is Dredd's equal, my point was why is there such a large discrepancy between the two in the placement of the list. That's the reason for the "work up". Thanks in advance.
Quote from: Rusty on 14 December, 2012, 12:12:54 PM
Do you deliberately troll everyone's posts like this for the sake of it or what? I've already said it was opinion, no need for you to nitpick to point that out for me, thanks.
BTW, if The Raid is Dredd's equal, my point was why is there such a large discrepancy between the two in the placement of the list. That's the reason for the "work up". Thanks in advance.
I'll ignore the trolling remark, save to say that if you think that's what I'm doing then report me.
Why the discrepancy? The Raid was a much better received film that Dredd, it is higher in the public consciousness. That is is, in the opinion if the reporter who made the list, higher up the list.
http://screencrush.com/top-movies-2012-20/
Dredd on nr 20 on a list that didn't include either Bond, Dark Knight Rises or The Hobbit harr harr harr!
Love this comment too!
"Ken Coutu · New Liskeard, Ontario
Another top 20 tying to be smart and artsy. Half of the movies nobody will ever care about, and anyone who puts Dredd, Cabin in the Woods, and a movie that hasn`t been released yet over T.D.K.R. is trying too hard to impress people with his movie knowledge."
'Best of' yearly lists are worthless as anything other than the writer saying "i like these ones. They are what i do like". My 'best of 2012' list would not include Bond, The Hobbit or Batman. Im desperately trying to think of a film ive seen for the first time this year that i actually liked, so any list i'd write (and having a degree in film theory amongst other things and having been at one time gainfully employed in the film industry, my opinion is no less valid than any online critic) would be a grumpy diatribe on how crap films are these days. Oh- i liked The Avengers and Apollo 18.
SBT
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 20 December, 2012, 12:35:28 AM
'Best of' yearly lists are worthless as anything other than the writer saying "i like these ones. They are what i do like". My 'best of 2012' list would not include Bond, The Hobbit or Batman. Im desperately trying to think of a film ive seen for the first time this year that i actually liked, so any list i'd write (and having a degree in film theory amongst other things and having been at one time gainfully employed in the film industry, my opinion is no less valid than any online critic) would be a grumpy diatribe on how crap films are these days. Oh- i liked The Avengers and Apollo 18.
SBT
It's not my cup of tea either, since most seem to use it to justify what they spent their money on. And I only saw 3 films I really liked this year (DREDD, Moonrise kingdom and Searching for the sugar man). But still, as I said a list that does without Bond and Batman but includes DREDD is a fun read. Here's hope that someone who reads it thinks "Oh, Dredd? Ought to check that out?" or something.
well sadly now there is a good copy out on the internet now i can wait till jan to watch again
but some interesting comments now on illegal sites
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It's been one hell of a ride! great action and bad-ass Judge Dredd!
Good movie.. solid 8/10 "Judgement is coming" yeap, for wht they say, it will come 2morrow (21/12). I just wish i could hv tried one of those Slow-Mo .. ;)
A very good movie all around, except for a few things. Also this movie had an artistic edge which I loved, and gives the movie an easy extra point. 7.2/10
Similar storyline to 'The Raid - Redemption' (which is an awesome film), that aside, not a bad film. FX were pretty cool and there were some original cinematic elements which raised it above the usual. Worth a watch.
fun saturday matinee movie. Get a big soda, some popcorn, and watch the mayhem commence. I like the telepath, its a cool character, and Dredd is just a bad ass...
Video OK,Audio OK, Would like to see this in a series! 7/10
Great movie. Urban was fantastic as Dredd combined with the stunning visual effects and sheer brutality. Was hoping that there would have been more use of the city but the setting was ideal anyway. 8/10
OMG YES! EPIC! 10/10
Visually stunning. Incredible effects. Original cinematography
This movie kicked ass. Stallone version was crap compared to this
really enjoyed this- so relieved, as i was really looking forward to seeing it... it was dark enough, and the Dredd, well, what can i say- top grim mouth!!! haaaha!!
aye not bad at all deff worth a watch, not my usual kind of thing
0x better than I was expecting, really enjoyed it actually. Some of the gore/cgi was superb 7/10
This was a good adaptation of Dredd, I think the style was a good direction for Dredd, if you like 2000AD then you'll love this Dredd film
well that was enjoyable hope this means more only time will tell but a pretty good adaption of Dredd and a pretty damn good action 8.5/10
The Blu Ray gets 4 stars(again)in the new Total Film.
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 20 December, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
The Blu Ray gets 4 stars(again)in the new Total Film.
Probably thought no one would notice.
Quote from: chuffsteruk on 20 December, 2012, 09:48:46 PM
The Blu Ray gets 4 stars(again)in the new Total Film.
Well Total Film got it at 4 stars when it's at US Comic Con, and 3 stars when for release, and now 4 stars... different reviewer I hope...?
Indeed, a 3rd reviewer!! :lol:
Quote from: junox on 20 December, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
well sadly now there is a good copy out on the internet now i can wait till jan to watch again
but some interesting comments now on illegal sites
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It's been one hell of a ride! great action and bad-ass Judge Dredd!
Good movie.. solid 8/10 "Judgement is coming" yeap, for wht they say, it will come 2morrow (21/12). I just wish i could hv tried one of those Slow-Mo .. ;)
A very good movie all around, except for a few things. Also this movie had an artistic edge which I loved, and gives the movie an easy extra point. 7.2/10
Similar storyline to 'The Raid - Redemption' (which is an awesome film), that aside, not a bad film. FX were pretty cool and there were some original cinematic elements which raised it above the usual. Worth a watch.
fun saturday matinee movie. Get a big soda, some popcorn, and watch the mayhem commence. I like the telepath, its a cool character, and Dredd is just a bad ass...
Video OK,Audio OK, Would like to see this in a series! 7/10
Great movie. Urban was fantastic as Dredd combined with the stunning visual effects and sheer brutality. Was hoping that there would have been more use of the city but the setting was ideal anyway. 8/10
OMG YES! EPIC! 10/10
Visually stunning. Incredible effects. Original cinematography
This movie kicked ass. Stallone version was crap compared to this
really enjoyed this- so relieved, as i was really looking forward to seeing it... it was dark enough, and the Dredd, well, what can i say- top grim mouth!!! haaaha!!
aye not bad at all deff worth a watch, not my usual kind of thing
0x better than I was expecting, really enjoyed it actually. Some of the gore/cgi was superb 7/10
This was a good adaptation of Dredd, I think the style was a good direction for Dredd, if you like 2000AD then you'll love this Dredd film
well that was enjoyable hope this means more only time will tell but a pretty good adaption of Dredd and a pretty damn good action 8.5/10
That's great, but if so much as one of them is wondering about a sequel, so help me...
I'll not offer to hold your coat, Michael.
Leeches. I refuse to see an illegal Court on the principal that, well I guess it encourages crime for one thing.
And the thing with top this n that of anything... Personal preference. What I like others may not. That is the Eau of art & film is art. Films, books, plays, music, comics, comedians. Everyone has differing tastes.
My top 10 is Dredd & Judge Minty. That odds all I needed this year, anything else is a bonus.
But really, those leeches watching Dredd for free are annoying the hell out of me. Theft. If I see a shoplifter in action I report them, these people are no better.
Quote from: Bat King on 21 December, 2012, 09:13:08 AM
But really, those leeches watching Dredd for free are annoying the hell out of me. Theft. If I see a shoplifter in action I report them, these people are no better.
Utter rubbish. This equivalence between copyright infringement and theft has been peddled by big content and needs to be vigorously resisted. Shop-lifting actively deprives the vendor of a product they would otherwise have sold; the same is
not automatically true of downloading.
I've torrented movies because I've bought the DVD and found that it's been copy-protected to the point where downloading a decent rip is the only way to get content that I've
paid for onto the Mac Mini that acts as our media centre.
I appreciate that, in this case, these people
can't have paid for the film, because it's not out yet, but what if a significant fraction of these people
now go out and buy a Blu-ray or DVD of the movie when they wouldn't have done so otherwise? You can't map a 1:1 correlation between downloads and lost sales, no matter how hard the music, film and comic industry try to do so.
Don't misunderstand me: as someone whose livelihood depends on people paying for content created by other people, I have
no time for the 'everything should be free' brigade. However, as much as the music industry likes to piss and moan about it, iTunes has shown that there is money in making content cheaply and easily available online and it frustrates me deeply that the TV and film industries continue to peddle lies and false equivalences about downloading content, whilst simultaneously making it difficult/expensive/impossible to get digital content onto my media centre by legal means.
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Jim
Wow Jim, I'm surprised you see it like that.
The argument over 'ownership' when it comes to digital content is always ongoing, but the less money companies make back from the initial investment of producing the content in the first place, the less likely hood they are to repeat the process.
Afterall, if we are all sad that Dredd didnt make the money for a sequal, then this is proving the point.
Most DVD issues are now available with a free download digital copy- I suggest you use that way in, or Netflix, or the many other sources of LEGAL online content.
Your argument seems to centre around the fact that you cant play DVD's on your Mac Mini, and therefore its ok to rip it from the Net ?
I dont see that as justification.
Ok you are saying you have BOUGHT the DVD so therefore its no loss to anyone if you use a rip.
Well, those rips are a retailers loss, so therefore it blows out your argument out of the water again, as you feel that way about shoplifting. Thats you now buying the shoplifted goods, so have a think about that.
Then you go on to blame it as the Big Corporate decision to fleece the poor customer.
Well, yes, a DVD is probably only about £3 in cost to them, but then see my first points over cost VS profit and repitition of the process.
You can try and argue your justification, but its only for your own peace of mind.
Quote from: Teivion on 21 December, 2012, 09:45:40 AM
Ok you are saying you have BOUGHT the DVD so therefore its no loss to anyone if you use a rip.
Well, those rips are a retailers loss, so therefore it blows out your argument out of the water again, as you feel that way about shoplifting. Thats you now buying the shoplifted goods, so have a think about that.
What the fuck are you talking about? I have bought and paid for a copy of this film. I'm not buying a digital copy instead because I already own a legal copy of the film and the digital versions are often more expensive than the DVDs and lacking any extra content, and I'm certainly not buying a digital copy
as well as the DVD.
Surely the idiocy of this is that although the film company has prevented
me from ripping a copy of my legally-owned DVD, they clearly haven't prevented
someone from doing so and the moment it goes onto the internet, they might as well not have bothered copy-protecting
any of the DVDs. All they've done is piss me -- a paying customer -- off and drive me to BitTorrent in order to play back my legally-owned content on the platform of my choice.
Note that DVDs are not clearly labelled with their copy-protection status, so I literally have
no idea when I buy it whether I'll be able to run the bloody thing through Handbrake successfully until I try it. Are you honestly suggesting at that point, if it won't rip (something you don't usually find out until the end of the process, so you've already had 90 minutes wasted) I should just shrug philosophically and shell out a second time for a digital copy that will most likely cost me more than the DVD? Fuck, as they say, that.
Bah.
Jim
You :
"Hello, I bought this 12" Vinyl copy of Do They Know It's Christmas and it wont play in my CD Player "
Retailer:
"Er, yes ..thats because they are two entirely different things."
You:
" Its doesnt matter, I want to play it in my CD player and it wont. As I bought it from you, and its a legal copy of the same material, I think you should give me a CD version of it as well "
Retailer:
" Well you can BUY a copy at £9.99"
You:
" Sod that - the vinyl copy cost me £3.95. And its bigger"
Retailer:
"Tough"
You
(Thinks ( "Oh sod this, Ill just nick a copy on my way out, it wont matter")
Completely different scenario
Quote from: Teivion on 21 December, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
"Hello, I bought this 12" Vinyl copy of Do They Know It's Christmas and it wont play in my CD Player "
Well, your argument falls at the first hurdle, because this sentence should actually read:
"I bought this CD copy of Do They Know It's Christmas and I can't import it into iTunes even though there's nothing on the packaging to tell me that this perfectly reasonable expectation of your product is not, in fact, the case."After which the response should then be:
"Well, you've opened it now, so we won't take it back. Would you like to buy a digital copy that costs 50% more and has no B-side?"Really, if you're going to engage in argument, you ought to at least
try to understand the subject under discussion.
Also, again: copyright infringement is not theft. Not in law. Not anywhere. I'd ask you to refrain from calling me a thief.
Jim
Chaps. name calling is bad, and remember that the internet cannot allow for body language. Stop before it gets heated.
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 21 December, 2012, 10:56:16 AM
Chaps. name calling is bad
Sez you, fuckface! :-P
Cheers
Jim
sigh...
Quote from: Teivion on 21 December, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
"Hello, I bought this 12" Vinyl copy of Do They Know It's Christmas and it wont play in my CD Player "
There's another flaw in this analogy, BTW. In this example, the song's rights-holder is not
actively trying to prevent the transfer of the song from one medium to another. If I'd wanted to play the music on the 12" on my CD player, there are USB turntables cheaply available that will allow me to digitise the contents of the vinyl and iTunes would allow me to write that data back to an audio CD. At no point does the rights-holder intervene and contest that I am not, in fact, the owner of the music I have purchased.
Think of it another way: back in the day, my vinyl used to get played once, when I bought it. At the same time as I was playing it that first time, I would make a tape copy and play that tape copy until it fell apart. When it did, I would get out the vinyl and make a new tape. The vinyl was, effectively, my back-up strategy.
Same deal with DVDs. Having suffered three sudden and unexpected hard drive failures in the last six years (two LaCies and an Iomega), I like having the physical disks as back-up.
I would reiterate that it is only the film companies' insistence on trying to prevent me from viewing content I've paid for in the manner that is convenient for me that I'm objecting to.
Jim
Jim makes a lot of very valid points here and has actually slightly changed my previously black and white view slightly (but given that a lot of what we pay for these days is "convenience" itself, I still find myself slightly confused).
And yes, the "everything should be free" brigade shouldn't be lumped in with his sort of situation. I find they tend to always have an argument for things being wrong especially if that thing involves them "paying for something" or "doing something positive".
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 21 December, 2012, 09:28:07 AM
Quote from: Bat King on 21 December, 2012, 09:13:08 AM
But really, those leeches watching Dredd for free are annoying the hell out of me. Theft. If I see a shoplifter in action I report them, these people are no better.
Utter rubbish. This equivalence between copyright infringement and theft has been peddled by big content and needs to be vigorously resisted. Shop-lifting actively deprives the vendor of a product they would otherwise have sold; the same is not automatically true of downloading.
I've torrented movies because I've bought the DVD and found that it's been copy-protected to the point where downloading a decent rip is the only way to get content that I've paid for onto the Mac Mini that acts as our media centre.
I appreciate that, in this case, these people can't have paid for the film, because it's not out yet, but what if a significant fraction of these people now go out and buy a Blu-ray or DVD of the movie when they wouldn't have done so otherwise? You can't map a 1:1 correlation between downloads and lost sales, no matter how hard the music, film and comic industry try to do so.
Don't misunderstand me: as someone whose livelihood depends on people paying for content created by other people, I have no time for the 'everything should be free' brigade. However, as much as the music industry likes to piss and moan about it, iTunes has shown that there is money in making content cheaply and easily available online and it frustrates me deeply that the TV and film industries continue to peddle lies and false equivalences about downloading content, whilst simultaneously making it difficult/expensive/impossible to get digital content onto my media centre by legal means.
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Jim
OK I will accept I possibly over reacted with my comment on it being theft. And I agree with what you say about streaming something you do own a copy of is quite different. As is streaming shimmering you can't buy a copy of.
A few years ago I watched Day of the Daleks online. Day out came out, probably amost 2 years later, I bought a dvd.
This isn't the care with Dredd. It was only on the cinema a couple of months ago. These people choose not to watch it. I well accept their apology to adding to the chances the won't be a sequel when they show me their legally owned Dreddblu-Ray or dvd.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 21 December, 2012, 09:28:07 AM
iTunes has shown that there is money in making content cheaply and easily available online a
I wish they did, charging €17 for HDfilms that aren't even HD quality - only 3-4GB/DVD quality - is criminal. Under-charging and over-charging with the same hand on different products, sneaky fucks.
That is so strange, I would have imagined a virtual monopoly to be a good thing for consumers.
But it is always so great to see people who believe that copyright theft is the same thing as actual theft, kind of like it's still good to see kids who believe in santy claws.
"People downloading films is killing films" - of course it is, dear, just like radio killed music, and home taping killed music, and CDs killed music, and tv killed cinema, and VHS killed cinema, and now the internet is killing cinema? That is terrible news, and looking at Google I can see what you mean - nearly 8 months after it came out, marginal arthouse picture the Avengers didn't even manage to make its second billion dollars in a cinema run. Truly it is the end of an age.
Quote from: Professor Bear on 22 December, 2012, 07:50:35 PM
That is so strange, I would have imagined a virtual monopoly to be a good thing for consumers.
But it is always so great to see people who believe that copyright theft is the same thing as actual theft, kind of like it's still good to see kids who believe in santy claws.
"People downloading films is killing films" - of course it is, dear, just like radio killed music, and home taping killed music, and CDs killed music, and tv killed cinema, and VHS killed cinema, and now the internet is killing cinema? That is terrible news, and looking at Google I can see what you mean - nearly 8 months after it came out, marginal arthouse picture the Avengers didn't even manage to make its second billion dollars in a cinema run. Truly it is the end of an age.
Yes, but I'd imagine a huge mainstream tentpole movie like Avengers can afford to take a profit hit from piracy. A mid budget, independent film like Dredd less so.
Smaller films are less likely to be pirated in the first place, especially arthouse flicks. Not everything is torrented.
All in proportion, smaller art house flicks would have a smaller audience but one torrent could equal 20 for the Avengers.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 December, 2012, 05:34:59 PM
I wish they did, charging €17 for HDfilms that aren't even HD quality - only 3-4GB/DVD quality - is criminal. Under-charging and over-charging with the same hand on different products, sneaky fucks.
Sorry, I clearly didn't phrase that point clearly enough, or you missed the first part of that sentence where I specifically referred to the music industry. The film and TV industries have decided that the cheap/easy part of digital distribution that has worked so well for music would be catastrophic for them, so they choose to set restrictions on distribution, quality and price on downloads that compare unfavourably to physical DVD and Blu-ray, whilst simultaneously trying to make it impossible to repurpose the content on those physical disks.
Cheers
Jim
This any good to you, Jim? I've used the PC version in the past and it's done the trick nicely.
http://www.aimersoft.com/how-to-backup/dvd43-for-mac.html (http://www.aimersoft.com/how-to-backup/dvd43-for-mac.html)
Goes without saying, I'm with Jim on this one. I have an enormous collection of CDs, which I have ripped to MP3 for streaming/portability purposes. I have paid for every single album, single and EP and continue to do so. It's cost me a bloody fortune over the years, but I do love my music.
How nice it would be to be able to do the same with my comparatively meagre movie collection. I more or less have it sorted now, but it's been a massive faff and it took me bloody ages and a *lot* of head-scratching.
Quote from: Noisybast on 23 December, 2012, 12:29:21 PM
This any good to you, Jim? I've used the PC version in the past and it's done the trick nicely.
Thanks -- I have two different DVD-rippers which normally do the trick. However, every once in a while, one of the big film companies will update their copy-protection encryption and it takes the rippers a while to catch up. In the meantime, I have absolutely no qualms about torrenting the damn thing!
Cheers
Jim
Actually, ignore that link, Jim. On reading the page more closely, it's not what I thought it was. DVD43 is the software I used. Looks like this is an "alternative", rather than a straight Mac port. May well be crap, for all I know.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 23 December, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Quote from: Noisybast on 23 December, 2012, 12:29:21 PM
This any good to you, Jim? I've used the PC version in the past and it's done the trick nicely.
Thanks -- I have two different DVD-rippers which normally do the trick. However, every once in a while, one of the big film companies will update their copy-protection encryption and it takes the rippers a while to catch up. In the meantime, I have absolutely no qualms about torrenting the damn thing!
Cheers
Jim
DVD43 isn't a ripper per se. It's an app that runs in the background and quietly decrypts your DVD/Blu-Ray while you get on with watching/ripping it. Removes region locking, too.
Quote from: Noisybast on 23 December, 2012, 12:37:42 PM
DVD43 isn't a ripper per se. It's an app that runs in the background and quietly decrypts your DVD/Blu-Ray while you get on with watching/ripping it. Removes region locking, too.
Aha. Interrresting...! I shall have a proper look.
Cheers
Jim
Ooohhh! Look who makes it into the top 5! :)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/dec/24/hobbit-dark-knight-avengers-best-of-2012?fb=native&commentpage=1
On the ripping thing, it's probably worth noting that in the UK, you have zero legal right regarding format-shifting. It's actually not legal to rip a CD to MP3s unless you have the express permission of the copyright holder. The good news is that Vince Cable's recent announcement regarding updating British copyright law (flying in the face of some pretty extreme lobbying from the usual suspects in the entertainment sector) will make personal ripping legal and might even make it illegal for companies to restrict the practice (rather like the 1988 copyright act did for software).
High Quality Blu-ray retail copy rip released on Christmas day.
I will definately buy a copy to support the movie despite the rip being released.
From my side of things.. We worked pretty hard to get this movie on the screen, and then to see it not do well in the theatres and then see it pop up on torrents leaves a bit of a bitter taste.I know that this day and age it's pretty much expected and there's not much you can do about it, but one doesn't have to like it. It can be argued that some will eventually buy the dvd/bluray, but in reality, most won't..
The IMDB user-counter has been jumping a few thousand every-day for Dredd in the last week so that's a lot of downloads with both good and bad consequences.
Score looks to be slipping which is a shame. I was expecting it to go up.
Probably a lot of review like this: "WTF Dred is ghey moar tits lolz"
That's a surprise on IMDB! :o
Just no satisfying people these days!
Paid streaming services like Netflix are the future for the movie industry. Physical formats like DVD and blu-ray will be dead in less than 10 years.
This is the only way to stop pirating is to give people a very convient, cheap and user friendly service.
Do you think there will be another bunch of reviews for the dvd?
With regards to the IMDB scores, if the reaction of some of my acquaintances who didn't like the movie is anything is to go by, they keep ripping on Dredd for having a minimal story. I mean yeah there wasn't much for the story, but that works in a movie like Dredd. Some of those might be quick to judge the movie from that alone and think it's nothing more than an empty action flick.
Personally I think it gets annoying when you have comic movies try to overload themselves with too much story (there is such a thing). It seems that a lot of them nowadays go by a common formula where a good third to a half of the first movie is dedicated to the origins of the character. Dredd picking up where it did with no nonsense was a great relief from the norm.
i see DREDD is soon to be on NETFLIX - linki
http://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/Dredd/70242801
3 good review's
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1
Forget that cartoonish disgrace from 1995 starring Stallone. This version is the TRUE Judge Dredd from the classic comics of the late 70's from the UK. You may find it hard to believe, but Dredd was the best movie I've seen in many years. Why? Because it a throwback to the great R-Rated SciFi/Action classics of the 80s (like Predator, Die Hard, Robocop, etc), which studios just don't seem to make anymore. This is clearly aimed for adults & not the PG-13 crowd. The source material is rich & the writers nailed it perfectly in this movie. Dredd is a facinating character study, great plot, terrific acting, lots of action, and plenty of violence (not for the squemish). Karl Urban nails his performance as Dredd, one of the most memorable bad-a$$es of all-time. Although it recieved high ratings from critics, this film made little money the box office, which is a shame. In time, this film will be thought of as a great SciFi classic. Give it a try!
Definately do the business on Netflix.
So did Roger Ebert and Mark Kermode not review this? I looked through Ebert's Rotten profile and it doesn't seem that he did. Those could've been interesting, even if they were crap.
Kermode reviewed it the week it was out.
Yeah, I found a vid after posting. My reaction is mostly 'fair enough'. Though I disagree on the negative points. Even if I did enjoy The Raid in many respects.
Mark Kermode - Dredd
http://youtu.be/tknJUPcxoRM
Quote from: Stan on 28 December, 2012, 01:30:12 AM
So did Roger Ebert and Mark Kermode not review this? I looked through Ebert's Rotten profile and it doesn't seem that he did. Those could've been interesting, even if they were crap.
Didn't Ebert refuse to review the Raid? I've got a feeling he looked at the premise of Dredd and figured it was more of the same.. If that's the case then it's very lazy of him.. Either that or it slipped through the cracks..
Sonuvabitch..
Regarding the Raid, Ebert did review it. You can read it here:
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120321/REVIEWS/120329993
I guess the gist of the review would be what he said about a quarter of the way in, summarzing the movie as "essentially a visualized video game that spares the audience the inconvenience of playing it.".
A great deal of the American reviewers gave Dredd a lukewarm or negative reception, so I would imagine he didn't really see it as worth his time if it was being compared to the Raid. I remember on Rotten Tomatoes how as soon as Dredd opened in the US, the critic aggregator rating dropped down to the 70s from the 90s it was at with British reviewers.
And while I'm at rottentomatoes, they put together a list from some of their staff touching upon underrated movies that didn't get much love at the box office. One of them is Dredd-
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/end_of_watch/news/1926552/best_movies_off_the_radar_2012/
My eyes wandered down to the comments (OH BOY), some users in the comments said that Dredd was overrated (!), boring, or the devoid of story/ raid knockoff deal. Others commenting on that it was good though. Still, better than nothing, even if some are complaining that it was overrated, that means somewhere it's getting hype somewhere.
Another 'Shame Dredd failed' from IGN.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/12/29/what-were-2012s-biggest-movie-flops
Dredd gets some good lovin' in the comments section. :)
did this guy say MUSHROOMS good review :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2SyJ-LGt7Y
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/dvd/2013/01/%E2%80%98dredd%E2%80%99-can%E2%80%99t-leave-bad-enough-alone/ (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/dvd/2013/01/%E2%80%98dredd%E2%80%99-can%E2%80%99t-leave-bad-enough-alone/)
Another American reviewer that didn't get DREDD.
'What remains of the United States is largely an irradiated desert: It has been renamed Mega-City One (no, I'm not making that up)'
and
'The 1995 film was at least campy'
If anybody feels the need to respond, the site does take comments ;)
Quote from: SneakeeX on 06 January, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/dvd/2013/01/%E2%80%98dredd%E2%80%99-can%E2%80%99t-leave-bad-enough-alone/ (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/dvd/2013/01/%E2%80%98dredd%E2%80%99-can%E2%80%99t-leave-bad-enough-alone/) Another American reviewer that didn't get DREDD.
It's not all bad. The reviewer's diligent research (wikipedia and watching the extras) has turned up this scoop:
"Perhaps in the sequels (already planned, thanks to the box office numbers)".
Quote from: SneakeeX on 06 January, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/dvd/2013/01/%E2%80%98dredd%E2%80%99-can%E2%80%99t-leave-bad-enough-alone/ (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/dvd/2013/01/%E2%80%98dredd%E2%80%99-can%E2%80%99t-leave-bad-enough-alone/)
Another American reviewer that didn't get DREDD.
I take this the same way as I take Kermode's review, they weren't interested to care what it was.
Quote from: sauchie on 06 January, 2013, 10:19:23 PM
It's not all bad. The reviewer's diligent research (wikipedia and watching the extras) has turned up this scoop: "Perhaps in the sequels (already planned, thanks to the box office numbers)".
Sweet.