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: Dredd Epics Ranked - Better! Vote for positions 36 - 29
: Colin YNWA 15 March, 2021, 06:25:01 AM
These play-off votes don't draw as many votes as the rounds that determine who enters them. I get that as of course we've votes for (or not) and certainly thought about all of these Epics before. What I do find interesting is that these play-off votes do give the chance to vote for epics that might not have made a top three but still deserve appreciation, or to ensure that Epics that you did vote for but didn't qualify get their rightful place as high as possible.

Look at the list of 8 Dredd stories below and tell me your top three:

1 (your favourite of the 8) will get 3 points
2 (your 2nd fav) will get 2 points
3 (your 3rd fav) will get 1 point

45 The Chief Judge's Man (https://dreddepicsranked.blogspot.com/2020/08/epics-46-44-actually-these-are-quite.html) - Progs 1244-1247, 1263-1266, 1342-1349

33 Sin City (https://dreddepicsranked.blogspot.com/2020/08/epics-37-34-very-average.html) - Progs Progs 1289-1299

32 Die Laughing (https://dreddepicsranked.blogspot.com/2020/08/epics-37-34-very-average.html) - OGN

31 Helter Skelter (https://dreddepicsranked.blogspot.com/2020/12/epics-31-29-reaching-for-heights.html) - Progs 1250-1261

29 Wilderlands (https://dreddepicsranked.blogspot.com/2020/12/epics-31-29-reaching-for-heights.html) - Progs 904-918 and Megs 2.63-2.68

27 Judge Dredd Vs Aliens - Incubus  (https://dreddepicsranked.blogspot.com/2020/12/epics-28-26-sublime-and-ridiculous.html) - Progs 1322-1335

26 Judgement on Gotham  (https://dreddepicsranked.blogspot.com/2020/12/epics-28-26-sublime-and-ridiculous.html) - OGN

25 End of Days  (https://dreddepicsranked.blogspot.com/2020/12/epics-25-23-noble-failures.html) - Progs 2184-2199


Voting will close on the morning of Friday 19th March and we’ll have our next 8 positions sorted

All links go through to AlexF’s simply brilliant Dredd Epics Ranked (https://dreddepicsranked.blogspot.com/) blog. You may need to scroll to find his write up of a particular story - but I’d suggest just reading the whole thing anyway - it's fantastic stuff.

Baffled by what’s going on here - well we have a  a thread for that (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47367.0) - though that might leave you more confused than anything.

Rules (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47367.msg1053448#msg1053448) for what they are worth.

Not sure about anything just ask and I’ll blag it.

: Re: Dredd Epics Ranked - Better! Vote for positions 36 - 29
: Rogue Judge 15 March, 2021, 06:31:33 AM
1. Wilderlands
2. Sin City
3. Vs Aliens

The Batman crossovers are decent too.
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: broodblik 15 March, 2021, 07:04:35 AM
1. Sin City
2. End of Days
3. Judge Dredd Vs Aliens - Incubus
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: BPP 15 March, 2021, 07:47:09 AM
1 - sin city
2 - end of days
3 - wilderlands

Quick question - are the best of these repechage epics transferring  into subsequent rounds or being batched and despatched? Ie if sin city wins here is that as high as it goes or does it go to the next round of failed votes (which would include the losers from the current round 7).
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: broodblik 15 March, 2021, 07:51:35 AM
BPP this round is to determine position 29 to 36
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: abelardsnazz 15 March, 2021, 07:54:44 AM
1. Wilderlands
2. Chief Judge's Man
3. Sin City
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: Colin YNWA 15 March, 2021, 08:03:11 AM
Quick question - are the best of these repechage epics transferring  into subsequent rounds or being batched and despatched? Ie if sin city wins here is that as high as it goes or does it go to the next round of failed votes (which would include the losers from the current round 7).

No this is it for these ones I'm afraid once you are in a play-off that's as high as you can go. As I say not a perfect system but as good as I could come up with without making the whole thing overly labourious.
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: Magnetica 15 March, 2021, 08:34:50 AM
Hmmmm....I have only previously voted for one of these:

1 The Chief Judge’s Man.

I not too bothered by the others and as this is to determine the minor placings and not progression to the next round I guess it doesn’t matter quite as much, so I’ll just pick two:

2 Sin City
End of  Days. Let’s be honest it’s not a great story, but it does at least qualify as an epic on the number of episodes criteria.
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: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) 15 March, 2021, 09:14:33 AM
1. Wilderlands
2. Incubus
3. Sin City

SBT
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: Barrington Boots 15 March, 2021, 09:19:38 AM
1. Wilderlands
2. Sin City
3. The Chief Judge's Man
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: AlexF 15 March, 2021, 09:35:50 AM
1) Judgement on Gotham - come on people, I know calling it an 'epic' is controversial but it's so much silly fun, isn't it?
2) Wilderlands
3) End of Days
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: Tomwe 15 March, 2021, 09:48:27 AM
1) Judgement on Gotham

2) Judge Dredd Vs Aliens

3) Sin City
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: Dark Jimbo 15 March, 2021, 10:35:35 AM
We're in interesting territory here as, for the first time, I like all of these (well, not read End of Days , but otherwise...)

Having completely lost track now of how many times I've voted for Chief Judge's Man, I'm actually not going to do so now, in favour of...

Sin City. Damn near perfect - just not long enough!
Wilderlands is flawed but great fun. I really like the 'stranded on a hostile world, battling to survive' scenario, and apart from the Mick Austin fill-in the art is pretty consistent.
Incubus is a crossover done right. Everyone comes out of it well and the internal logic is consistent. Pips the Bats crossovers for me as it feels more 'real' (not hived off into its own little continuity, divorced from the main strip) and Henry's art hasn't dated in the way that Bisley's 90s-tastic stuff has.
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: BPP 15 March, 2021, 10:46:30 AM
Quick question - are the best of these repechage epics transferring  into subsequent rounds or being batched and despatched? Ie if sin city wins here is that as high as it goes or does it go to the next round of failed votes (which would include the losers from the current round 7).

No this is it for these ones I'm afraid once you are in a play-off that's as high as you can go. As I say not a perfect system but as good as I could come up with without making the whole thing overly labourious.

It’s fair enough from a workload perspective but really shows up the flaw in the original highly deranged rankings. There is a lot of stuff in this bracket way better than the round 7 new entrants, not even close. But totally respect the decisions you’ve made for your own sanity.
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: Colin YNWA 15 March, 2021, 10:56:14 AM
It’s fair enough from a workload perspective but really shows up the flaw in the original highly deranged rankings. There is a lot of stuff in this bracket way better than the round 7 new entrants, not even close. But totally respect the decisions you’ve made for your own sanity.

To be fair it was as much to do with keeping this as fun as possible. We could go up and down, up and down but then folks would be voting on the same things even more than they are now!

Heck the longer I drag this one out, the longer I have to plan and prep the next!
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: IndigoPrime 15 March, 2021, 11:24:44 AM
1. Sin City
2. Chief Judge’s Man
3. Wilderlands
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: Huey2 15 March, 2021, 12:22:50 PM
1. Sin City
2. Chief Judge’s Man
3. Wilderlands
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: Funt Solo 15 March, 2021, 04:33:28 PM
Heck the longer I drag this one out, the longer I have to plan and prep the next!

Top cover of all time?
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: Colin YNWA 15 March, 2021, 04:34:17 PM
Heck the longer I drag this one out, the longer I have to plan and prep the next!

Top cover of all time?

Believe it or not I have something like that on the list - though not next...
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: Funt Solo 15 March, 2021, 04:38:16 PM
Heck the longer I drag this one out, the longer I have to plan and prep the next!

Top cover of all time?

Believe it or not I have something like that on the list - though not next...

I was thinking of doing it as a sequence of years with an ultimate play-off. Top three of '77, '78 etc. Just progs at first - separate stream for the megs. Cos, y'know, there's not enough ranking done around these parts.

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1st: Wilderlands
2nd: The Chief Judge's Man
3rd: Sin City
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: gogilesgo 15 March, 2021, 05:05:07 PM
Sin City
Judgement on Gotham
Judge Dredd Vs Aliens - Incubus
Good Crossover that respected and stayed within the universe rules for both parties. Nice conclusion to the Bones story too.
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: WhizzBang 15 March, 2021, 06:37:49 PM
1. Wilderlànds
2. Chief Judges Man
3. Sin City
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: The Enigmatic Dr X 15 March, 2021, 07:53:31 PM
1. Aliens/Incubus
2. Chief Judges Man
3. Judgement on Gotham
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: DrJomster 15 March, 2021, 10:12:45 PM
1. Chief Judge’s Man
2. Sin City
3. End of Days
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: sintec 16 March, 2021, 07:21:29 AM
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: Bolt-01 16 March, 2021, 11:10:38 AM
1st Sin City
2nd Incubus
3rd Chief Judges Man.
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: JayzusB.Christ 16 March, 2021, 12:09:54 PM
I'm going with
1. Sin City (by a country mile)
2.  Judgement on Gotham
3.  The Chief Judge's Man
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: Southstreeter 16 March, 2021, 08:01:10 PM
1. Wilderlands
2. Sin City
3. Chief Judges Man
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: DrJomster 16 March, 2021, 09:54:59 PM

I was thinking of doing it as a sequence of years with an ultimate play-off. Top three of '77, '78 etc. Just progs at first - separate stream for the megs. Cos, y'know, there's not enough ranking done around these parts.


That would be absolutely fascinating, but you might see a slight dip in the number of votes for the 90s as you go through various voters’ wilderness years period... Before, of course, picking up in resurgent style for the Rebellion era!
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: Colin YNWA 17 March, 2021, 06:41:13 AM

I was thinking of doing it as a sequence of years with an ultimate play-off. Top three of '77, '78 etc. Just progs at first - separate stream for the megs. Cos, y'know, there's not enough ranking done around these parts.

That's very close to what I was thinking - nominations per year and then a MASSIVE tourney maybe 256 entrants (???) into a head to head. It was based on the original idea for this that came from something I saw on Facebook where a page was running down a list of Indie albums in a head to head and it started at 1012 albums as I recall! I then remembered the votes Roger Godpleton (may he be snarky in peace) did when I first joined and some ideas from that seemed more managable.

Hey if you fancy doing the covers one I have no ownership of this nonsense - go for it.
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: broodblik 17 March, 2021, 06:47:08 AM
What about a best of Johnny Alpha? We have plenty of stories to pick from
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: Colin YNWA 17 March, 2021, 06:51:26 AM
What about a best of Johnny Alpha? We have plenty of stories to pick from

That's a good idea. I have a note book (upstairs) where I have a list of options. Might add that. Next I had planned Classic Artists vs Current Artists - Ryder Cup. Would need to get some Captains for that... might need to start thinking about that...
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: Colin YNWA 18 March, 2021, 06:34:49 AM
When this vote closes we will certainly have the highest climber to date as we will know the final position of The Chief Judge's Man that for so long stormed through the rounds. Only today left to contribute to that final placing as I'll close up voting tomorrow and announce the final positions 36th to 29th.

Exciting!
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: Colin YNWA 19 March, 2021, 07:05:21 AM
Voting Closed

So we get the final positions 36 - 29 and some interesting stuff - but first the countdown

36: (32) Die Laughing - 0 Points = Down 4 places*

35: (31) Helter Skelter - 0 Points = Down 4 places*

34: (25) End of Days - 7 points = Down 9 places

33: (26) Judgement on Gotham - 11 points = Down 6 places

32: (27) Judge Dredd Vs Aliens - Incubus - 13 points = Down 5 places

31: (45) The Chief Judge's Man - 25 points = up a whooping 15 places

30: (29) Wilderlands - 29 points = Down 1 place

29: (33) Sin City - 42 points = Up 4 places

Not surprising at this phase we get more losers than winners but we of course need to celebrate The Chef Judge's Man its it magnificent storming up the charts with a whooping increase of 15 places - by far the biggest gain to date. Also worth making mention of the curious case of Wilderlands, it progressed through one vote, missing out on the next amassed a considerable 63 points across 3 votes - all to drop a sinle place... my system might be broken???

*Quick note on the final positioning of these two. Normally with a tie I'd decide but since (to shame to shame) I've never bothered with Die Laughing I've gone with AlexF's positions to decide.

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: Tomwe 19 March, 2021, 10:53:53 AM
1) Judgement on Gotham
2) Sin City
3) Judge Dredd Vs Aliens