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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 03 April, 2022, 05:30:47 AM »
Aside from Funt rather wiseless repartee - Mudcrab, little braindead fuckers like yourself before spewing some ridiculous, disingenous amount of bullshit. You think I am Russian? Fine. I think you are 8 year old retard with cognitive disabilities. Sadly with the access to the computer.

 You can tell that to your throat - ripping, likely Azov scum friends the same. The country you love so much is currently cesspit, and it was even before invasion. But I dare you creeps to try, even to reach my throat. In meantime, you can fuck off too. I hope to somewhere murky and sealed.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 03 April, 2022, 01:19:15 AM »
I want to say that I have no recollection of anyone protesting or complaining about NATO intervening there. At least not in my neighbourhood, nor on the news.

Do you really not recall any protests against the Iraq invasion?  Holy feck.

Nope. In fact, I do remember some neighnours saying "get that blighter Saddam!"

I want to say that I have no recollection of anyone protesting or complaining about NATO intervening there. At least not in my neighbourhood, nor on the news.

Do you really not recall any protests against the Iraq invasion?  Holy feck.

They didn't show them on Russian TV

Very muddy comment. And because I remember your other comment directed at me, I think we shouldn't reply to each other, or they will, at least from my side, be very profane.

As for "Putin is bad", I could say a few things pro-him and anti-him here, but I'd rather stay neutral on affairs like this

Fucking neutral? Maybe you're not a fascist, but you're certainly a cunt!

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 02 April, 2022, 09:54:59 PM »
To use good ol' quote: I know what I am, but what are you?

Off Topic / Re: Life is riddled with a procession of minor impediments
« on: 02 April, 2022, 09:27:34 PM »
Ah, since recently, I returned to my old hobby (if you can call it a hobby), that of making brief little trips to the bookmaker. As a punter, I cannot say I had any luck, but today I lost my ticket somewhere on my way home. As some games are about to begin, I can only hope that I blew up my betting skills before some poor old blighter picks it up and collects the cash.

Off Topic / Re: RIPs
« on: 02 April, 2022, 09:18:16 PM »
Just read on Twitter that art droid, and Marvel/Miracleman artist, Garry Leach has passed away.

Sad about Garry. His art was instantly recognisable and he had interesting, innovative ideas with layout.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 02 April, 2022, 09:16:07 PM »
Oh ffs, Shark.

However dim one's bulb may be, one should be able to easily illuminate the fact that milstar's substantive meaning wasn't altered by the text I excluded from the quote.

As you argue (incorrectly) about semantics, entirely innocent people are being bombed to oblivion, on purpose, by a power hungry, brutal dictator. One whose fascism milstar openly supports. Their plight, seemingly, having no more meaning to you than picking your nose.

For fuck's sake, is the phrase I should utter here. The disgusting thing here is how you, deliberately or not, have twisted my comments. I am under no obligation, moral or otherwise, to pick a side here, and it hardly makes me a fascist, or sprouting fascist views, if I do one of each. Urging one to do so is a true definition of fascism. And why would I, as a contrarian, listen to someone who obviously listens to very mainstream news, the same media that uses very little truth in their outings? Not that long ago, Zelensky was the autocratic one and a dictator, so what exactly did we do about him? To quote Russell Brand: (whatever feelings someone harbours for the git belongs to an entirely different topic)
“The mainstream media is not your friend. The culture is not your
friend. The government is not your friend. Big business is not your
friend. They are operating collegiately, in unison, to create a set of
systems that are beneficial to them, and disadvantage you."

Plus, I find that you personally have a very skewered idea of what dictator and fascist mean (and all those points are pretty debatable).

Now, I don't think that I buried my statements that the conflict in Ukraine is a horrible decision. It's pretty much overt to see for anyone who wants to see it.

But I also added that one must be blatantly naive or ignorant to see this whole thing through black-n-white glasses and be blind enough to see nuances here. As if Ukraine has done nothing wrong, yes? Not at all. A whole lotta no. Ukraine has, in fact, bullied the Russians. For their own citizens, that is. For years. Except that you won't hear that on Channel 4 or the BBC. Pointing that out, apparently, paints you as a person with fascist beliefs. I was also against interventions in Iraq or Libya (although both countries each had more brutal dictators and who never invaded anyone; at least to my knowledge, Libya did not; don't know about Saddam). And just as I bare mentioned these two countries, I want to say that I have no recollection of anyone protesting or complaining about NATO intervening there. At least not in my neighbourhood, nor on the news. Now I have no idea how the average Russian feels about their president. But I predict the majority are behind Putin, which is quite a common thing in these countries. Is the majority fascist?

But let us all talk about this as if everyone forgot about COVID. As if everyone is unaware that Russians pay for petrol way less than us. But let us talk about how one autocratic leader attacked a "sovereign" and ''peaceful'' country. That, btw, recently fired back, which is why they should not be slammed as aggressors, according to the mainstream book, right? Let us use the Ukrainian flag motif on our profile photos on Facebook, Twitter, etc, even though we have never been there.

Film & TV / Re: Amazon Purchase MGM Studios.
« on: 20 March, 2022, 11:42:30 PM »
Another one bites the dust. One day corporates will rule the earth.

One day? That day is already here.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 20 March, 2022, 11:40:34 PM »
Claiming neutrality is disingenuous when you spend your entire time repeating disinformation as if it's fact from one side (the invading side), defending the leader of one side (the invading side) and minimalizing attacks on civilians by one side (the invading side).

If you repeat the lies of a fascist, defend the honor of a fascist and excuse the crimes of a fascist, what does that make you?

Disinformation? Nothing that I wrote above is disinformation.

To give myself a bit of sarcasm, and a bit of honesty, I admit that I perhaps have repeated the lies of one side, but what does it say of the other side as well?

And now that we are here, I wonder what is the next thing crafted to delude the crowd (apparently, covid is behind us, Boris can host his corrupt elite parties on daily basis)? China taking Taiwan, maybe? That is definitely coming.

Film & TV / Re: Last movie watched...
« on: 13 March, 2022, 09:11:45 PM »
Southern Comfort

I remember hating this one the first and only time I saw it. It looked very cheaply made to me. I should revisit it.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 13 March, 2022, 09:06:00 PM »
Genuine question:  Where are you from, milstar?  I'm very curious; partly because of your views, and partly because of your sometimes fluent and sometimes broken English.

Sorry for the late response, Jayzus. In recent weeks, I haven't had much spare time (if any). I saw your reply a couple of days ago, but I forgot about it, 'til now. Anyway, the frequency of responses here is going to be very sparse. (Just don't think I spent this whole week scribbling this comment, though did this whole afternoon).
Where am I coming from? Freshford, Somerset. A few miles south of Bath. We have a lovely inn. Or at least I think we do. I haven't been there in years. The river Frome burbles right through, and another one, the Avon, is close. I used to travel occasionally to Southern Europe, until the lockdown, met people, who were not really keen on western politicians. That probably influenced my views on the world of politics.
My English? Ah, it's a mix of several factors involved, all of a rather trivial nature. I was never a man of particular literacy. Even in elementary school, I had trouble grasping walls of text. I once heard a pretty good statement that native speakers tend to be lazy with their language, with which I can agree. It may sound controversial here, but grammar rules are something I pay little attention to when typing my comments, and I write them quickly as I lay out my thoughts at the time. Additionally, I often use my cellphone (unlike now), where I must wrangle with the tightness of the buttons and autocorrect (often necessary option). I hope these explain my Jekyll-Hyde coherency.
My views? I dare say they are not that weird to some other members of this forum. Over the years, I have observed governmental doings, or better said, wrongdoings, in both domestic and foreign departments. So-called "humanitarian" interventions often ended up miserably, one way or another (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya...).
The extent of our leaders' crimes is that they only happen to remember a casual voter right before elections. This left me severely anti-authoritarian, maybe even more so than our Sharky laddie here. I am only baffled about whether I should consider them traitorous or putty-headed.

@Wolfie, I hope my answer satisfies your demands as well.

I was talking about genocide, not nuclear warfare, which is what we’re well on the way to. Even the corridor announcement is chilling, since in the past we know how that ends up. (Basically, everyone leave your country so it can be taken over easily; those who stay behind all become enemy combatants by default and therefore fair game.) Beyond that, we’ve already seen Putin poison people overseas (including in the UK), by way of radioactive contaminants, along with committing atrocities with war-crime-level weaponry. Little to nothing is off the board for him.

And perhaps you’re right about the end state. But if the end result of this is Putin killing countless thousands, probably committing genocide, and wiping a sovereign nation forever from existence, you’re OK with that? You’re like “hey, Ukraine brought this on themselves”? As for the NATO aggression, have you ever thought that ex-Soviet client states saw a shot at independence vs subjugation and therefore went for that? (CIS could have been a much smarter set-up, but Russia didn’t want independence – it wanted those countries to do what Russia wanted, hence its failure.)

Indigo, I am a man of peace. I am against war, any war. Meaning you have to go al lthe way. I was just saying that while I don't support the invasion, I said that he had reasons, unlike waking up one day and going off the rocker, like "let's massacre and conquer a neighbouring country." I am assured this was in the boiling pan for quite some time. At its optimal, Putin probably seeks to restore a mix of imperialist Russia and the Soviet union, albeit in redux form. What is especially troubling is how the whole war trickled into the media, and I don't doubt both sides use propaganda for their purposes (well, one must be blind and notice extreme polarisation). No, I wouldn't throw the word "genocide" that lightly, giving it its weight. Ukraine has millions of refugees now, right? What if they return when the conflict is over? Additionally, what is spine-tingling is that Ukraine had a biological (biochemical, perhaps) lab seized by Russian forces. Under US supervision. Only a naive person, extremely naive, would think one side is exclusively good, and the other exclusively evil. Conflicts, at least in modern times, have rarely been that. I only feel sorry for the pain that the Ukrainian people have to endure as a result of NATO, Russia, and their own regime's actions.
Of what I've named as probable outcomes, I think the most likely one is where Ukraine loses a portion of its eastern part and is barred from joining NATO.

@Tjm86 without going part by part, I'll just say that I agree with you on a good number of your comments. I'll just add this. I am aware of Putin's statement on the fall of the Soviet union, and it is obvious that he seeks to restore Russia's influence worldwide, much in the vein of the US. In fact, Putin may already have reached that point when he decided to intervene in Syria. I seriously doubt a country like the UK could be of any interest to him, politically and geographically. Ofcourse, I don't claim we are beyond his reach, but that is not the point I am trying to make. If we haven't been invaded during the Cold war, I don't see that happening now. I am also fully aware of, and I've read somewhere pretty good reasoning on why some countries feel antagnistic toward Russia, blaming the Soviet era (well, more Soviet than tsarist). And quite rightfully so. Then there is the situation with eastern Ukraine with Azov neonazis adding fuel to the fire. Another problem is that both sides are spouting propaganda (the first casualty of war), which has seethed to extremely polarising levels. I'm not going to call Putin Hitler; in fact, I don't think Trump deserved that dreadful moniker; and Trump was certainly a madman. Politically illiterate.
Now, this whole situation is horrible. But what would be a more horrible outcome is if we go to war with Russia. That would be catastrophic. Well, I slightly walk that back. It would be castrophic, unless they do invade us.
Anyway, I don't expect this conflict to drag on, and if I have any clairvoyant skills, I don't see more of this in six months. And you, sir, seem well versed in Eastern-European politics and culture? Fancy giving some books to read?

Anyway, I think Oliver Stone gave a pretty good view on this (I'll leave the link instead of the whole post):

My only disagreement is that I don't think anyone is happy about this, Russian nationalists too, and those others, the legion if they are happy about this, I don't consider them humans.
There's also the documentary "Ukraine on Fire," in which Stone appears, and which I watched and felt quite educated on the entire Ukraine crisis situation (that movie, by the way, is either forbidden or has been removed from Youtube).

But just so that a war can be tragicomical, here's one example:

@Funt Solo which one? I take it's well known he had two of them.

But yeah, I'd rather be a pathetic human with a neutral PoV; than a fascist one, being conditionally demanded to use a designated label for the bloke.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 04 March, 2022, 01:16:37 AM »
Let's not switch the thesis'.

What is that apostrophe doing there? What do you think a thesis is and what do several of them apparently possess?

Putin said is all he did so far.

Putin said is all he did so far.


Putin said is all he did so far.


I beg your pardon?

I can't parse this at all. It's a feckin' riddle. I literally cannot understand you Milstar.

Do you know what a Turing test is?

On which of those three quotes I need to click to bypass captcha?

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 03 March, 2022, 11:46:11 PM »
Putin told Macron earlier that he see Ukraine as his, and a French official earlier said Putin was prepared to “go all the way”. Ukraine is, remember, a fully sovereign state. Putin has decided it’s his and appears happy to at best commit war crimes and atrocities to achieve the goal of subjugation and/or assimilation; but if not, we could be looking at genocide. As for mad, I don’t think so; this is calculated and cold.

Given that Ukraine borders EU countries, it’s effectively on our doorstep. This is within our continent. I wasn’t talking literally. Putin isn’t bombing Brighton. But this is our neighbourhood in the global scheme of things, and it’s another attempt to further destabilise Europe. As others have noted, Putin is also on record as stating that he wants more than this. He believes Russia is entitled to get back all that is its ‘historical’ lands. So that’s the point: where does this stop? Perhaps he’ll run roughshod over Ukraine and that will be enough. But he’s already outlined it won’t be and The Balkans are also ‘his’—as is Finland. (Still, an invasion of an EU country would be a step beyond and without doubt would escalate things beyond the point of no return.)

Regardless, I honestly find it astonishing anyone would be neutral about a country being invaded like this, but there you go. Will you say the same if Putin is in a few months obliterating Helsinki in a similar manner to the crap he’s doing in Ukraine?

Let's not switch the thesis'. Putin said is all he did so far. Putin trolled us with nukes and people instantly bought it. He's calculated and cold, but ain't stupid. You also have to take into account that he doesn't want NATO in his neighbour; plus, what I said about both sides acting less than honourably, ethnic minority in Eastern Ukraine (Dombas, Lugansk) are being theatened and harassed for years. I mean, just look what Azov neo-Nazis did, burning people to frazzle. And it's why Putin went into it, not that he woke up one day and said "I want to conquer half of Europe." Where does it stop? Well, Putin, like we can all agree on, is not mad, he is cold and calculated, and zero stupid. He probably would laugh at idea of conquering all states where Russians live, or were historically Russian. Balkans? The Balkans never literally were Russian. Finland? They are not under Russian boot for 100 years. A move of madman would be to attack Finland, but like I stated already, Putin is not stupid. Or mad.
The way how I literally see this to end: 1)Putin successfully occupies Kyiv and installs vassal government, perhaps something akin to Belarus, a president who is not anti-russian, but is not pro-Russian either; 2)Donbas and Lugansk becoming part of Russia. 3)nothing from the above, NATO gives all guarantees it won't move to the East (as they agressively did for the past 30 years) or 4)someone sucessfully completes wetwork mission on Putin or Putin dies of heart attack, and his successor announces complete withdrawal from Ukraine.
Should we intervene? My personal philosophy is that true heroes are the one who refrain from raising a sword (translated to modern times, someone who refrains from picking a gun). Lately, we raised the sword too many times, even if the cause was justified, it universally ended up in disaster, one way or another. Sadam did not possess a WMD, Lybia is cesspool state, and Balkan...what was, one country committing genocide against another, which was absolutely untrue. But it's important to go to foreign war, waste resources and lives of young people.
There are no more clear-cut good and bad guys. And when Kruschov said that we have bigger problems to solve, I am more interested drunk Boris will keep this sinking ship afloat in post-Brexit period.

And just so that I don't give impression of myself as Putin/Russia shill, although compared to him, Boris has nowhere near (huge) support than Putin, I am going to say that anti-lgbtq rhetorics, arresting sundry and all people, supporting genocidal Chinese regime, and surrounding yourself by oligarchs isn't something that put me on his fan list.

I can only assume you're 15 years older thereabouts. I can see no other explanation for this, frankly, stupid and infantile reading of events.

A 15 year old would pick up a rifle and listen brainwashing propaganda machine.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 03 March, 2022, 07:07:37 PM »
A dictator on our doorstep has invaded a European country, has designs on bringing back into being the Russian Empire at its greatest extent, and has threatened at least two EU nations with massive repercussions if they don’t do what Russia wants regarding “security guarantees”.

At what point do we decide this isn’t a big problem? When Ukraine is partitioned? When Ukraine is subject to a genocide and full Russian takeover? When Russia follows its actions up by invading Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia? When there are inclusions into Polish and Finnish territory Putin believe are Russian? At what point do we draw a line?

Right now, the world is almost united. Four other countries]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/3/unga-resolution-against-ukraine-invasion-full-text]Four other countries appear to fully back Russia right now. Even China is on the fence. If we do nothing, Europe will could be destabilised for decades. Perhaps it will be anyway, but going down without any kind of fight seems to be a curious way to respond.

Indigo, you are now fairly stretching it up. All I hear is Putin = Hitler, wants to conquer half of the globe, but 1)Cold War ended 30 years ago and 2)Putin isn't mad as Hitler, as Putin knows what he is doing and this was set months, even years ago. I mean, I am tired of paranoid boogey tales of evil Russkies.
What happens in Ukraine is solely localized conflict and is definitely not on our doorstep. Unless our doorstep extends toward Eastern Europe. I thought times of the empire are long over. Russians have been at war with Chechens, did they invade us then? Abkhazia, South Ossetia?
To understand this conflict, a one needs to dig in a bit into Eastern European history, starting from 1945 (for example, Crimea has been in the hands of Russians, until it was handed over to Ukrainians over some weird politics). Which always seemed the problem of us westerners, our own arrogancy, inability that is not about us anymore. Knee jerk reaction on going to war with Russia would be horrible idea. And that would be WW3 (technically speaking, we are already living in ww3). One has to remember how ww1 started.
Ofcourse, I don't denounce the simple fact that both sides (Russians and Ukrainians) - to put it euphemistically, showed less than honourable sides in the conflict. Since 2014,that is. And our media has quite a habit of lying, being in the service of conflicts that typically ended in miserable failures. I am talking on the period from 1990s onwards, not for example ww2 (though I don't think also that conflict over Folklands was of any beneficiary to us, save maybe the adversial relationship with Argentinians *sarcasm*). So, no, this is why I am neutral. And a heavy pacifist at that. I am not going to serve scum politicians who only think of me when they need my vote.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 03 March, 2022, 12:52:33 PM »
Perhaps don't say things like this (couldn't decipher what your sentence was meant to mean, but it seems to be something about USA citizens taking up arms?)

p.s. that thing about the missile - you're the only person I've heard say anything about that, so no idea what your point is.

Also - I'm going to say that "Putin is bad" - not sure how that makes me a hypocrite.

The whole purpose behind my dribble is that we are swarmed by disinformation in the media, particularly regarding this conflict. no less I've seen the amount of contradictory informations than here. and since I am openly professed my disdain for our government activities in the times of covid (which seems that no one mentions now, while big man Boris and his cohorts host parties) and just in general, I think I could use my suspension of disbelief. I am not ashamed to admit that it may paint me as ignorant, at least, and arsehole, at worst. But being labelled as fascist is naive, at least, at worst - distasteful.

As for "Putin is bad", I could say a few things pro-him and anti-him here, but I'd rather stay neutral on affairs like this. Ofcourse, what is going on in Ukraine is terrible, but I think we personally have bigger problems to solve on our own. Besides, you can only be drag into mud if try, notwithstanding that outing someone as fascist/nazi today practically is effective as calling someone woke.

but it seems to be something about USA citizens taking up arms?)

not taking up their arms (at least not on their own), which is not remotely connected to Ukraine crisis (or maybe it is...?) I think I've already left the link on the topic here.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 03 March, 2022, 03:52:20 AM »
Funt, I'd take it if you had a very lousy day.

But don't imply that I am a fascist in the future.

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