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Ichabod is excellent in all regards - the premise, the story, the scratchy black & white art... but I know which side my bread is buttered on so it's going to have to be Tharg the Mighty.

Please send me five pounds and a KTT, O Mighty One.

General / Re: Sideshow Vote II: Battle of the 8-bit nerds
« on: 21 June, 2022, 11:06:34 AM »
And then which Dan Dare game. If you look at the original, the C64 coder (Andy Wilson) went off and did his own thing, which was much more comic-like and interesting than the other versions. That said, I’d argue this was much more classic Dan Dare and not really a 2000 AD game.

Oh yes, it's definitely 50s Dan Dare, which is why I said perhaps an allowance.  On reflection it's probably as silly as if I'd said let's include the Scott Adams Incredible Hulk game.

Most of the C64 2000 AD games were, to put it bluntly, bloody awful. Even those that weren’t had major shortcomings. Nemesis had little to do with the comic and was repetitive. Rogue aligned quite well with the comic but was short. Those are the best of the crop on that system, which otherwise had two dire Dredd titles, a bafflingly weird Sláine effort where you grabbed ’thoughts’, and a Strontium Dog game that appeared to have been written by someone who’d never read Strontium Dog. Am I missing any? (The Speccy’s Stronty Dog game, based on The Killing, was a lot better, if still somewhat limited. And both Judge Death and Halo Jones got swallowed up when Piranha folded, although a playable demo of the former exists.)

(Slaine!  That was the one I was trying to think of.)

I agree.  It's so disappointing!  There are talented people going back and reworking (e.g.) Commando and Ghosts & Goblins to improve the graphics and add missing levels and things.  I wish I had the talent, I'd have a tinker with some of these.  I know you know all about it IP, but some of the things being done now are so clever.  This presentation by Antonio Savona on game in progress Pig Quest is excellent.  It looks a little busy to me, but the idea of speculative rendering, and the amount of animation in the puff of cauldron smoke is great.

Given the limitations of the system, that first PETSCII Dredd is superb.

People love the challenge of trying to create something within the limitations and there are some brilliant pieces of art out there.  There's no way for me to remember all the best ones but a few:

General / Re: Sideshow Vote II: Battle of the 8-bit nerds
« on: 21 June, 2022, 10:48:13 AM »
There's also this text adventure...

Yep, that was the one I meant.  I've seen it on the C64.

with perhaps an allowance for the Dan Dare games or the Stainless Steel Rat game.

General / Re: Sideshow Vote II: The new leader of the pack
« on: 21 June, 2022, 10:43:04 AM »
I've really been enjoying all of Michael Carroll's efforts on the Dredd novels, fantastic!

Seconded.  The Rico novel was great too.

General / Re: Sideshow Vote II: Battle of the 8-bit nerds
« on: 19 June, 2022, 06:11:07 AM »
Aiiiiii! My eyes! When does the burning stop?

No, actually they’re very good. Done as proper games for the Advent calendars I think?

Also, good to know Dredd likes the occasional jellied eel. Though how he got all that tomato sauce everywhere, I just don’t know.

News / Re: Hiya Toys Judge Dredd range?
« on: 18 June, 2022, 12:17:21 PM »
Judge Cal stories don't particularly interest me, but that figure is so good a representation - the blonde curly hair, the big badge of office, the stars on his knees, the chunky boots and Judge Fish with his badged fishbowl - that I could really be tempted to get it.  I'm already quite tempted by the Lawmaster.  I just wish they were a bigger scale.

There's a lot of "Judge ----" in the list so far.  Let's hope we get Chief Judge Griffin and a Sov Judge before they get off that kick.

    Judge Dredd – Sep 2022
    Judge Death – Sep 2022
    Judge Anderson – Sep 2022
    Klegg Mercenary – Sep 2022
    Judge Mortis – Oct 2022
    Judge Fire – Oct 2022
    Judge Hershey – Oct 2022
    Judge Fear – Nov 2022
    Judge Giant – Nov 2022"

Add Judge Cal to that list!


News / Re: Hiya Toys Judge Dredd range?
« on: 18 June, 2022, 06:40:35 AM »

General / Re: Sideshow Vote II: Battle of the 8-bit nerds
« on: 18 June, 2022, 06:21:29 AM »
Some 2000AD art done on the C64.

Urban and Stallone are done using PETSCII graphics, which is an alternative character set made up of shapes.  The Dredd to the right of the Stallone version is also done using PETSCII.

STE '86 is the handle of one of the artists.  It doesn't mean the picture was done in 1986.  (I think the brilliant Johnny Alpha pic is from 2010.)

General / Re: Sideshow Vote II: Battle of the 8-bit nerds
« on: 18 June, 2022, 05:11:40 AM »
You know, I really thought this question was going to be which 8-bit 2000AD game was best?  Dredd (either), Rogue Trooper, Nemesis, Strontium Dog (either) with perhaps an allowance for the Dan Dare games or the Stainless Steel Rat game.

But, seeing what it is, it's got to be the C64.

Only one of my high school friends had a Spectrum (though pity the kid with the Tandy Coco).  The colours seemed brighter than on the C64 but there was often this weird colour issue where an object would take on the colour of the background as it passed over them.  It was a bit like the screen was made up of 'squares' of colour and if something extend partly into that 'square' it would do a bit of a chameleon act.  It always reminded me of comics printed with the colour being a bit off, so they didn't sit correctly inside the outline .

That said, there are several C64 games that have a weird colour effect where white objects have a red and blue 'tinge' to them.  It always reminds me of the Apple II.

Also too, although I have no nostalgia for the Speccy and would never get one, the Spectrum Next design is very tasty.

I'm sure there are people still coding games for the Speccy and it's also true for the C64.

"Eat plutonium death, you disgusting alien weirdos!"... No.
"Oh my heartsies!"...No.
"30 years in the iso-cubes, creep!"... No.
"Um...synthi sausage"...No.
"Der Sternhammer Silencer, cucumber." ...No.
"Electro-nux!"... getting warmer.


Because none of the others are as much fun to shout as you run around the house.  Finger guns automatically follow.

General / Re: Sideshow Vote II: Even you know I am cooler than you
« on: 13 June, 2022, 01:20:08 PM »
Mutiny on the Buses.


That's a vote (even though it's closed), not a comment on the result.

General / Re: Sideshow Vote II: BFG no man it is GFD
« on: 13 June, 2022, 01:11:16 PM »
Rogue Trooper.  No doubts.

And now Hershey...

I love that her left shoulderpad has completely keeled over in the pose with the daystick.

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