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2000ad suspected IP infringement thread

Started by The Enigmatic Dr X, 06 August, 2010, 12:48:47 PM

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SpetsnaZ99

You ever notice that everyone who believes in creationism looks really unevolved? Eyes real close together, big furry hands and feet. "I believe God created me in one day." Yeah, looks like he rushed it.

vzzbux

Quote from: Dandontdare on 21 October, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Judge-Dredds-Shield-2000AD-Large-Patch-/200578259941?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3638139233468365950

I thought I remembered this as a genuine spin-off from back in the day, but judging by the extensive range of other patches, probably a rip-off (am I bad person cos I might still order one?)
I wouldn't bother. They look cheap and tacky. Also don't feed the bootleggers.





V
Drokking since 1972

Peace is a lie, there's only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.

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That bloke sells a lot of 2000AD original art as well  :o

A.Cow

Quote from: Dandontdare on 21 October, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473

This is surely a trademark issue, not a copyright one?

This company has set out benefit from the visual identity of a wide number of brands, not the creative work that went into designing them.

Besides, if you steal a quantity of information from a single source, then that's plagiarism; by contrast, if you steal many small pieces (e.g. phrases rather than sentences) from a wide variety of sources, then that's research.  This business is clearly falling into the latter style of 'stealing', and I don't see it as a big deal.

If these were heavy metal band logos then nobody would be batting an eyelid.

vzzbux

Quote from: A.Cow on 22 October, 2011, 05:11:16 PM
Quote from: Dandontdare on 21 October, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473

This is surely a trademark issue, not a copyright one?

This company has set out benefit from the visual identity of a wide number of brands, not the creative work that went into designing them.

Besides, if you steal a quantity of information from a single source, then that's plagiarism; by contrast, if you steal many small pieces (e.g. phrases rather than sentences) from a wide variety of sources, then that's research.  This business is clearly falling into the latter style of 'stealing', and I don't see it as a big deal.

If these were heavy metal band logos then nobody would be batting an eyelid.
So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?




V
Drokking since 1972

Peace is a lie, there's only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.

A.Cow

Quote from: vzzbux on 23 October, 2011, 08:04:29 AM
So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?

So Andy Warhol should pay royalties to Marilyn Monroe, or to Campbell's?  There has to be a sensible limit, which is why so many countries have "fair use" rules.

If it was a character drawing being copied you could argue that this is taking money out of somebody's hands.  It's not.  It's a collection of logos, and any creative copyrights to those logos were signed-over at the point of creation specifically because they are created to be used wholesale for promotion.

Rebellion are only likely to complain about this kind of free advertising if it brings the brand into disrepute.

The Enigmatic Dr X

Quote from: A.Cow on 23 October, 2011, 11:18:48 PM
Quote from: vzzbux on 23 October, 2011, 08:04:29 AM
So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?


If it was a character drawing being copied you could argue that this is taking money out of somebody's hands.  It's not.  It's a collection of logos, and any creative copyrights to those logos were signed-over at the point of creation specifically because they are created to be used wholesale for promotion.

Rebellion are only likely to complain about this kind of free advertising if it brings the brand into disrepute.

2000ad is a registered trademark. A failure to take steps to enforce a trademark can lead to erosion of the rights associated with it. So, while I appreciate the "free advertising" angle there is also a limit to the extent this can be permitted.
Lock up your spoons!

vzzbux

@ A.COW.
You didn't answer my question.
So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?
But I know your answer will be no from your reaction.
If it was me I would be totally pissed.




V
Drokking since 1972

Peace is a lie, there's only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.

vzzbux

Drokking since 1972

Peace is a lie, there's only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.

Dandontdare

Quote from: vzzbux on 28 November, 2011, 09:35:54 PM
Don't remember seeing these advertised.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-AD-GRAPHIC-T-SHIRT-NEW-MENS-WOMENS-SIZES-COLOURS-AVAILABLE-/280769558628?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item870dfb2385
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Judge-Dredd-Lawgiver-Lawmaster-Comic-Blaster-Pistol-Gun-1-1-Scale-Kit-/230684723934?pt=US_Comics_Apparel_and_Accessories&hash=item35b5e18ade


V
That t-shirt photo's fake - it's just a comic image pasted over a photo of a bloke in a white t-shirt. He's basically saying "I haven't made it yet, but I could iron THIS image on to a T-shirt for you. Or you could, y'know do it yourself. Legally". And what the drokk is a 'lawgiver lawmaster comic blaster pistol gun'? *sigh*

SmallBlueThing

I'm not sure if we've discussed these- but there are a lot of them about. What's the current thinking? Other than "never in a million years!" obviously.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tharg-The-Mighty-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6135254375/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1330781690&sr=8-8

SBT
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Alski

Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 03 March, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
I'm not sure if we've discussed these- but there are a lot of them about. What's the current thinking? Other than "never in a million years!" obviously.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tharg-The-Mighty-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6135254375/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1330781690&sr=8-8

SBT

I really don't understand what would be in it. I mean, how many wiki articles have there been on Tharg?
"Cool Stuff You Will Like"

Music, Comics, Books, Video Games, TV and Film reviews/articles.

http://cool-stuff-you-will-like.blogspot.co.uk/

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An excellent read, even if a few facts were incorrect  ;)

Emperor

Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 03 March, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
I'm not sure if we've discussed these- but there are a lot of them about. What's the current thinking? Other than "never in a million years!" obviously.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tharg-The-Mighty-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6135254375/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1330781690&sr=8-8

A complete waste of people's time and money, all they do is scoop up Wikipedia pages and run them through print-on-demand services and they grab utterly unrelated pages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDM_Publishing
http://www.chrisrand.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/27/odd-tale-alphascript-publishing-betascript-publishing/

It can make looking for books on obscure topics difficult as they can swamp the results.

The sad thing is that Wikipedia does assemble books which would be cheaper and more coherent:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Books

You can see some comics ones here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_books_on_comics

It'd be easy enough to rummage up one on 2000AD too.
if I went 'round saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

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