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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: Today at 08:30:15 AM »

Off Topic / Re: RIPs
« on: 21 September, 2021, 02:23:03 PM »
Just heard Richard H Kirk one of the founders of Cabaret Voltaire has passed away. Gonna spend my afternoon spinning old Cabs vinyls. Electronic music wouldn't have been the same without him.


Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 19 September, 2021, 08:56:37 AM »
a good idea struggling to get out.

I think that's the perfect summary of the Mercy Heights stories.

Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 17 September, 2021, 03:51:11 PM »
It’ll be interesting to see whether they list the remaining books ahead of time. Not far off 111 now, are we?

3 more deliveries will take use to 110. Next one after that will be the tail end of extension 1 and the beginning of extension 2. It does seem like they're determined to keep some of the 2nd extension under wraps. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. The cynic in me worries that's because they're worried people will drop out if they know what's coming.

Don't remember if being infuriating at all. Rennie and Abnett are basically the only two current* writers who understand how to make a single episode work as both a complete story and part of the overall strip. Much preferable to get a one-off like that to keep the strip in the mind than nothing at all

That's fair, they did read as good self-contained episodes.

Forgot to ask - does Defoe volume 2 include 'Frankensteiner'?

Not sure we'll know for a few weeks yet. No way to tell from the cover as it's the same creative team as some of the other stories.

Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 17 September, 2021, 02:44:56 PM »
I reckon there should be enough space in the 2nd volume to bring us right up to date with Grey Area.

I'm with you on hoping for a 2nd Stickleback volume in the extension, would be a crying shame if we don't get that. Personally I'd have preferred to see Defoe split over 3 volumes so we could have the complete run, guess I'll just have to hope it gets a trade at some point so I can get the last bit (and probably end up double dipping for the pleasure :() Guess it'll be end up being a similar situation for The Order. I can't see them reprinting the new story scheduled to start in the xmas prog in the 2nd extension and I don't see them managing to stretch this out beyond the 140 books current scheduled.

General / Re: Forthcoming Thrills - 2021
« on: 17 September, 2021, 01:12:03 PM »
That's a stonking line up for the xmas prog and looks like it'll be a strong lineup for the new year with Proteus Vex, Kingmaker, The Order and Deadworld.  And more Lawless in the meg! Not so thrilled to see Diamond Dogs continuing, it's just no engaging me at the moment but maybe the crossover with Armitage will help (maybe).

Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 16 September, 2021, 03:40:03 PM »
Good choice Barrington, the Jaegir volume is fantastic.

Just finished the most recent pair of books and those are also superb. I think Brink may be the first volume where I'd already read all of it in the Prog (started buying at 2100). Reads brilliantly in collected form and lovely to have it in a nice hardcover volume, can't wait for further series to appear in the prog. Also great to get the complete run of Absalom. I skipped Terminal Diagnosis when it ran in the prog as I didn't want to spoiler the early parts of the run for myself. Glad I did as there were plenty of twists and turns along the way. That run of single episode appearences from the end of year specials must have been somewhat infuriating when it was in the prog though.

Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 15 September, 2021, 04:32:03 PM »
Yeah it wasn't unexpected given the contents of the first volume. Just a shame as it would have been nice to have the whole lot under hardcover. Particualy given Pat's stepping away and which means there probably isn't going to be anymore in the prog (at least for the foreseeable future). Guess I'll just have to cross my fingers for a TPB from Rebellion at some point to get the last bit.

Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 15 September, 2021, 09:36:14 AM »
I love the Order and was annoyed the original collection stopped after one volume. 272 pages must be the first four books, I guess. Think we’ve had five in the prog?

First 4 books is 250 pages of strip according to Barney so that adds up about right.

Disappointing to see that Defoe is going to be one story short of the whole run. Colin MacNeil's name on the cover means we'll be getting Diehards but no mention of Stewart Kenneth Moore means no Divisor. And with just that 1 story left there's not going to be enough strip left to fill a book :( I guess they could do some mixed volumes to tie up loose ends but I'm not going to bet on it. Shame.

Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 13 September, 2021, 04:45:22 PM »
Got a reply from Hachette's FB people re further Tor Cyan stories:

2000 AD: The Ultimate Collection
Hey Dave,
There will be no further Tor Cyan stories.
Apologies for any disappointment!

Guess that means something else will be padding out the War Machine volume

Announcements / Re: Judge Dredd: The Mega Collection discussion thread
« on: 27 August, 2021, 09:59:04 AM »
I read Plagues of Necropolis after this - while not essential, it gives an idea what they were all up to. It established the Sisters though as a major supernatural threat.

Was Plagues in the MC?
I don't recall reading it.

Books & Comics / Re: Matt 'the other' Wagner
« on: 26 August, 2021, 04:09:14 PM »
Depending on how you like your comics the Omnibus are available at a decent price digitally and if you eBay you can get a complete set of the Comico run for a reasonable prices - though I imagine with patience you can get them at a great price.

Wandered into the toon today to check out the local comic and record shops (we moved up to Newcastle just before first lockdown occurred so have only recently started to explore properly). Sat there on the shelf was a copy of the first Grendel Omnibus so I snapped that up. Might take a little while to surface in the reading pile though had a sudden influx of books recently so there's a bit of a queue building up.

Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 25 August, 2021, 06:17:29 PM »
Oh that's some interesting facting there sintec. If you ever get bored - and accepting I could get off my lazy arse and do this BUT also accepting that lazy arse is VERY lazy would be great to see this data by year and see if I can tally it with with my favourite years in thrill-power.

Had some time off work so finally got around to organising the data by year. Graph includes everything up until the Absalom book (thanks for the contents list abelardsnazz).

Going from this it seems the curators thinks the first golden age is 82-85 and the 2nd golden age is 2008-2012. Saying that it's worth noting that most of the rest of this first extension is going onto the right hand end of the graph. Only the Tyranny Rex and Tales Of Telguuth volumes break the trend with earlier material. Defoe, Brink, Grey Area, The Order, Dredd: Small House are all 2013 onwards. Not sure if there's enough content to get any of those years up towards the 75% line though - have to wait and see.

Also shout out to 1999 which was apparently an excellent year (helped out by the inclusion of the recent Mercy Heights volume but also Dante, Sinister Dexter: Eurocrash, Dredd: Doomsday, Devlin: Chasing Herod, Nemesis: book X)

Next time around I might try and do the different UC extensions in different colours. Feels like this one has focused a little more heavily on the newer generation of strips/writers. Would be interesting to see if that's true.

Announcements / Re: Proteus Vex: Another Dawn - coming April 2022
« on: 25 August, 2021, 10:06:55 AM »
Shame this isn't getting the HB treatment - still a must buy for me.

Announcements / Re: 2000 AD - The Ultimate Collection
« on: 22 August, 2021, 12:07:12 PM »
And it’s a great pity half of the Tor Cyan strips—which are objectively great—likely won’t show up now (unless they end up in War Machine).

Yeah it will be a real shame if we only get half of the Tor Cyan strips. It feels like those were the only good argument for including Mercy Heights in the first place.

I'm also not sure about the fact that Lilla Ferro (one of only two female characters of any note) is, variously, the love interest of Lydecker, Kintry and Cyan.

Yep she also gets a shower room scene (another connection point with Grey Area). Not the progs finest hour in terms of female characters.

I’ve started rereading mine to see what I’d have ditched with cherry picking. It’s interesting so far. I liked Ace Trucking a whole lot more than I remembered, but could happily live without Robo-Hunter. Yet had I cherry picked, I’d have likely flipped those. That said, I now paid ten quid for Greysuit, so…

I first joined the forum because I wanted to get some info on the contents of the series to try and gauge the value proposition in subscribing. Both Ace and Robo-Hunter were on my "probably junk" list so I'd have skipped them if I'd cherry-picked. I really enjoyed Ace though it's good sunday morning cartoons fun (with stunning art). On the other hand I could have lived without reading any of Robo-hunter (although the art on Verdus is great.

Tbh those 3 Robo-hunter volumes are probably the only things I'd drop from the original run. The middle of Slaine was a bit meh and tbh I didn't really get on with the first volume of Stront but in both cases I'm glad they were included so that we got (mostly) complete runs on the 2 characters. The fact we got 95% of some of these runs (Slaine, Stront, Dante) is more annoying than the inclusion of the weaker sections for me but that's clearly a ymmv kinda thing.

Greysuit and MH are the only books I'd drop from the current extension (although I'd want to find an alternative home for the Tor Cyan stuff somewhere, preferably with the rest of the run).

5 shit books out of 102 is better than I was expecting going in. But yeah I do worry the next extension is going to be a bit more hit and miss and start to drag that ratio down.

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