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Books & Comics / Re: Confused about inking.
« on: 19 April, 2009, 04:32:24 PM »
Quote from: "Matt Timson"
You fool, Wells!  ;)

Pretty much what Dyl said, really.  The only thing I'd add to that is that one of the reasons pencils and inks get split up- apart from the obvious time advantages- is that some people are just better suited to one job or the other, or one will bring out the best in the other.  OK, so that's two things- but you get the general gist.

I think a good example of somebody who benefits from a good inker is John Byrne.  Terry Austin, IMO, really brought out the best in his work on X-Men, while some of his Fantastic Four issues that he inked himself were a bit 'blotchy'.  Obviously, not everyone agrees with this assessment- which is kind of point.

A really good place to look is Fantastic Four annual #19 and Avengers annual #14, as both are penciled by Byrne, but inked by Joe Sinnott and Kyle Baker, respectively.  As it's a crossover, with the same story being told from two different perspectives, some of the panels are identical- so you can really see what a difference the choice of inker makes.

A horribly quick google didn't yield any of the identical panels- but I bet you could find them if you looked.  I remember preferring Baker's scratchy, more 'realistic', look to Sinnott's super-polished inks at the time.  As most of my tastes have changed since then, I'd be interested to read them again now.  Unfortunately, they went in the bin years ago.

That's a great example. Have both those books and since they were done my the same penciler at the same time the 'only' difference being different inkers if you don't understand the importance an inker can have then this will sort it out.

While I think the split penciler inker role in US comics is almost certainly born from the studio system from the 'golden age' and the ability this gave the best arts to produce more and more work its become so mcu more and I truely believe is now about the artistic value, in some instances, of having two people with different skill sets working on the finished product.

Events / Re: Bristol Expo 2009
« on: 19 April, 2009, 09:09:16 AM »
Didn't realise Dan Didio was attending. That'll certainly be interesting. Shame I can't go.

Books & Comics / Re: Confused about inking.
« on: 18 April, 2009, 03:22:49 PM »
Its one of these things you can understand quite easily if you look at comic art with the question in mind. a good example to start with is early Fantastic Four. The early issues while still clearly Jack Kirby don't look half as good as those inked by Joe Sinneot. When he comes on board, around issue 40 I believe the art goes up a level and I think its pretty clear. The funny thing is I'm not fan of Sinneot in general, say when he inked Byrne, but with Kirby it just works.
Or look at Frank Miller inked by the brillant Klaus Janson in say Daredevil and then inked by anybody else and it clear what the inker adds.

Film & TV / Re: 1 HOBBIT, 2 FILMS
« on: 18 April, 2009, 09:35:46 AM »
Quote from: "TordelBack"
No chance of doing The Hobbit in the style of, say, The Hobbit?  A lovely children's book that I used to read to my little brother, and now my own sprog?

Surely you could fit it all into one 2 hour movie?  30 mins form Introductions and the road to Rivendell, 30 mins from Gollum to the Elven dungeon, 30 Mins for Laketown and Smaug, then 30 mins for the BotFA and wrap-up?  It only has four or maybe five main characters (including Smaug), and then a few cameos for Elrond, Gollum, the Great Foblin,  Beorn and maybe Bard.  I do fancy the idea of filling in all the blanks of Dol Guldur and the Necromancer, but a film of The Hobbit might be nice too...

Still, Del Toro = Optimism.

Couldn't agree more there is so much wrong with Hollywood at the moment. Now so short of their own ideas they need to take a simple child's book and stretch it across two films. No doubt each will be 3 hours long. I wish the American film industry would remember that it used to be capable of telling a good story in 1.30 - 2 hours not continually crank out 3 hour epics, or multi film saga's like this. I remember when a 3 hour film as a treat because the story deserved it, not the norm cos they like to torture peoples bums!

Books & Comics / Re: 100 bullets
« on: 18 April, 2009, 09:31:06 AM »
In case you're not aware yet the creative team behind 100 Bullets is one of the teams behind Wednesday Comics from DC doing a Batman story.


Wednesday Comics just looks better and better.

News / Re: 2000 AD Origins Exclusively From Clickwheel
« on: 17 April, 2009, 10:55:39 AM »
So am I right in saying this isn't original content just exclusive to Clickwheel online?

Film & TV / Re: Who to play Dredd
« on: 16 April, 2009, 02:38:58 PM »
Quote from: "ThryllSeekyr"

Do you think that monkey would really know it's own name?

Perhapos it might.

If you want to see me be really pedantic (and I think we're capable of it - this is the Internet after all!) call an APE a monkey. Its one  of my pet hates. Its all about the tail (or lack of) and self awareness... no really this stuff is important... really it is...

Other Reviews / Maniac 5
« on: 16 April, 2009, 08:00:43 AM »
Ok so I rip into Purgatory for being mindless, souless ultra violent nonsense and now I'm going to praise Maniac 5 a very similar mindless bit of ultra violence. However taken out of the context that made Purgatory so unpalatable and given a little more invention Millar shows just how this type of story really can work. Its a great little simple story that has enough in it to make it really work.

Interesting writer that Millar!

Off Topic / Re: RIPs
« on: 16 April, 2009, 07:49:34 AM »
Quote from: "Daveycandlish"
Clement Freud at 84.

Grandson of Sigmund, brother of Lucien, father of Emma - that's a talented family tree!

Just a Minute will never be the same

Yeah heard this one this morning. Great shame that, always my favourite Just a Minute panelist. Even heard him win once!

Books & Comics / Re: What other stories would make great films
« on: 16 April, 2009, 07:48:00 AM »
Can't believe Flesh hasn't got more than one mention. As discussed elsewhere for me the combination of cowboys and dinosaurs is a sure win.

Having just re-read Firekind I'd like to see that given a go. Not sure all the subtles would survive but with its strong basic core story done well this is a film that could work on many levels.

Other Reviews / Re: Firekind, Kano AND Purgatory
« on: 16 April, 2009, 07:38:09 AM »
Quote from: "IndigoPrime"
The sad thing is, Grice was a really interesting character until Millar turned him into yet another of his muscle-bound indestructible moron villains. Grice bore no relation to the conniver previously seen in Dredd. As for Inferno, it's been a long time since I read it, but I recall it being even worse than Purgatory.

That's a great point Grice was indeed a great character with so much potential. So rather than create something, here at least, Millar took something which was already there and distorted it beyond all recognisation and sense.

Don't worry I have something nice to say about the man in a bit...

Trailers / Re: Cradlegrave
« on: 15 April, 2009, 03:32:17 PM »
Looks like a great strip but how about that trailer huh! Is this the first time 2000ad has done one of these 'animated' trailers? If so great job. If not where have I been missing them?

Other Reviews / Firekind, Kano AND Purgatory
« on: 15 April, 2009, 10:45:27 AM »
Well yesterday the last day before returning to work after 4 days decorating my wife took pity and let me have some good solid reading time. During which I happily (in the most part) read three stories I remembered really loving when I first read them a few years ago. Interesting how re-read (as Devon's Daddy pointed out on a previous thread) can change perspective on stuff, or not as the case may be.

Firstly Firekind, what can I say BRILLANT, just pure unadulterated glorious comics. Not the complex, if enjoyable struggle I remember it being (though this might be due to misprints when it first came out?) but a beautiful intriguing and exciting thrill and possibly the best thing John Smith has written and he's written a lot of great stuff.

Kano was great, better even than I remember and while very different in tone to the earlier Bad Company stories it really added to the whole mythos Milligan created and was a fantastic reworking of the whole old soliders finding it hard to live a normal life after a war. Great stuff.

Then we get to Purgatory...whoops. I often wondered why 2000ad fans don't have a high option of Millar. While I don't think he's the comics great he and his fans seem to think he is some of his stuff is pretty good. Its just ,Silo aside, not in 2000ad. First when I reread his Robohunter that was a rude awaking. Now this. Sensationalist nonsense. Charmless tripe. Unexciting action garbage. The characters are barely one dimensional. The story unoriginal. Grice a character that should be interesting, a concept that should have a lot to explore and story line that should be thrilling and it fails on ever level.

I mean seriously compare the chilling villian in Firekind, who's name I won't attempt here with the prisoner warder in Purgatory, who's name I've already forgotten.

The worst thing about Purgatory is I'm really not looking forward to reading Inferno now which I also remember loving at the time...can it be as bad????

Welcome to the board / All change
« on: 15 April, 2009, 10:14:16 AM »

I've been posting here for a while now and released a wee while ago that you could change your username and have just changed my avatar today and since I'd never introduced myself here thought this was a good time to do so.

My names Colin, formally ctaylor, presently Colin_ynwa, I've gone from Zenith to a chimp with a legionaries helmet on from my short lived self publishing 'company' Simia Comics (one comic produced Ape in a Spacesuit demo issue. Its rubbish but there are copies available for free if anybody has 20 minutes of their life to waste).

My 2000ad story is very similar to so many I'd guess. Collecting on and off since issue 1 (5 when that came out) had a very long spell from issue 432 - 1000ish but then dropped off the face of the 2000ad world (and comics altogether) for the longest time). Was reading comics again when Origins started and so picked up 2000ad on a whim and boy am I glad I did. Being back in the fold has been a blast and I've gone from ideal curiosity to remembering that 2000ad is the best comics out there by a country mile in a very short period of time.

Currently going through a reread of my collection 100 issues at a time cherry picking the stories and reading them in one go, currently on the 800s and so can often be found spouting pearls of wisdom (nonsense!) about stuff I've read in the review section. When I've finished that I'm very much looking forward to heading out on uncharted territory of the 10 years I missed as I have an almost complete collection now and issues 1000 - 1500 I've never read. Can't wait.

Have to say this is by far and away the most pleasent fan web forum I've ever come across and it's a credit to 2000ad fans when you compare it to the rapid forums you find on other 'nerd' websites. Well done you all!

Film & TV / Re: Who to play Dredd
« on: 14 April, 2009, 07:16:10 PM »

Sorry if I hadn't someone else would have.

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