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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18540 on: 11 June, 2021, 11:50:19 AM »
Might have been this one in the Independent? It is a horrible read.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/tiananmen-square-massacre-death-toll-secret-cable-british-ambassador-1989-alan-donald-a8126461.html

I've met people from China who literally don't believe this happened.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18541 on: 11 June, 2021, 12:02:36 PM »
Yeah. That's the one. It might have been a different article, but using the same ambassador's account.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18542 on: 11 June, 2021, 03:43:58 PM »
Might have been this one in the Independent? It is a horrible read.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/tiananmen-square-massacre-death-toll-secret-cable-british-ambassador-1989-alan-donald-a8126461.html

I've met people from China who literally don't believe this happened.

Me too.  I lived a few minutes' walk from Tiananmen Square when I was in China - For all its giant screens showing Chinese society in all its glory, it's a miserable, concrete waste of space where a nice green park would be a lot nicer.  Or even proper housing for the people who live in the nearby slum streets.

One local IT guy I taught asked me in a conspiratorial voice if I'd heard about the massacre.  While I told him I had, I didn't have the heart to tell him that pretty much everyone outside China had heard of it.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18543 on: 13 June, 2021, 08:22:02 PM »
Merkel turning up to G7 in a Red Shirt cosplay might have been a poor call.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18544 on: 23 June, 2021, 07:22:12 AM »

A message to the PM, MPs send No.10 the Balfour Project call for the strict application of international law, including via the ICC, in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18545 on: 23 June, 2021, 01:55:08 PM »
Well, the US can take all its bragging rights about freedom and democracy and stick them up its flabby great arse.

Obviously it's no major surprise, but any attempts to prevent the less popular party stopping people voting against it have failed. When only the right people are allowed to vote in certain states, those states aren't really small-D democratic states at all, are they?
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18546 on: 20 July, 2021, 08:51:23 PM »
Ah. I see we've reached 'checks notes' the "Antivaxxers comparing themselves to Rosa Parks" stage of the pseudoscience dystopia...

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« Reply #18547 on: 21 July, 2021, 10:08:05 AM »

Given that contradictory evidence and counterarguments are currently forbidden, that's not the worst comparison I've ever encountered.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18548 on: 21 July, 2021, 10:20:18 AM »
that's not the worst comparison I've ever encountered.

If Rosa Parks had been protesting her right to get on a bus with a highly contagious disease and infect every fucker on there, the comparison might be apt. Otherwise, GTFO.
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« Reply #18549 on: 21 July, 2021, 12:11:05 PM »

Excellent illustration of my point. Thanks, Jim.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18550 on: 21 July, 2021, 12:14:06 PM »
To clarify, yet again: This board and especially this thread is extremely tolerant of varied viewpoints, arguably to a fault. What we do not—and will not—tolerate is antivaxx rubbish, especially in the middle of a pandemic.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18551 on: 21 July, 2021, 04:17:37 PM »

I couldn't agree more.

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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18552 on: 21 July, 2021, 04:32:22 PM »
Ah. I see we've reached 'checks notes' the "Antivaxxers comparing themselves to Rosa Parks" stage of the pseudoscience dystopia...

This brought up some interesting points for me:

1. Rosa Parks is often historically misunderstood as being a quiet person who had finally had enough and made a sudden stand against oppression - but was actually a long-term activist against racial oppression.

2. White (pro-virus) conspiracy theorists have been ridiculously comparing themselves to Parks for about a year or so now - I assume to get publicity (which works, of course). Her freedoms were curtailed due to the color of her skin, as opposed to people being (in most cases, asked nicely) to conform to regulations during a public health emergency. You'd have to be a complete idiot to think that was a valid equation. Still: no shortage of those in the world.

3. See also: pro-virus tw*ts wearing Jewish stars to compare themselves to victims of the Nazi holocaust. No shame, no brain.

4. There's some perverse solace in that the virus outbreaks in the US are now centered on pro-virus (also: Republican) states. Mass Darwin Awards. Why have people started wedding their medical thinking to their political affiliation and not questioning their own internal logic?
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« Reply #18553 on: 21 July, 2021, 04:42:59 PM »
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Re: The Political Thread
« Reply #18554 on: 21 July, 2021, 05:31:35 PM »

And so I'm back to "no comment" as  the only acceptable comment I can make at this point. I've seen this movie and recognise Chief Brody slopping chum into the water when I see him. Don't want no more barrels in my hide...

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