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#76
General / Re: Looking for Pre-Street Judge Info...
16 February, 2018, 11:07:14 AM
Steve & Anyone Else that considered this question;

To save you further reading know I'll not be following the 2000AD Fargo story line as it exists.

First off thanks so much for your help and considering what I was requesting!  As I kept digging deeper, I ran into this phrase on a couple of websites (or perhaps just paid attention);  "After armed gangs stormed the White House and were able to avoid jail sentences by intimidating juries, Fargo outlined a New Deal to scrap the principle of due process and create a combined police and judicial force who could fairly dispense instant justice – the Judges."  That would have been I suspect between 2027-2031.

Though I understand that we're this moment a lot closer to that date than the original authors, I'm not real comfortable with the idea of U.S. Civil Rights simply being scrapped due to a singular hiccup in the system.  So as I began writing while I performed a more in-depth Fargo investigation, it was very obvious from the get go that it would take more, much more to collapse such a legal system to a point we roll back centuries.

In that it is already 2018, I have decided to take this story along a different path that meets at the same place. IOW, something else initiates the timeline from now to street judges... So I've decided that the world/U.S. needs to have a serious crisis that forces two things: 1. Martial Law, 2. Refugees, internal & international.  I also don't believe that nuclear war as most fall back on needs to take place, thinking that simple things having a domino and then snowball effect is enough.

Considering that, I believe that demonic (not divine) providence has already supplied me with a perfect example to build that back story off of.  So of the four or so backstory chapters scattered throughout my story to establish an environment to place Fargo on the path to presenting "Street Judges" as a better alternative, while leaving history as it is, as we now know it... I believe I need to make it worse before it gets better.

To that end, the U.S./world's fall will be initiated by one minor character in that chapter. A leader who essentially dismantles the government, foreign policies and environmental advancements, and creates a cascading effect bringing the world to the brink due to his instabilities.  That chapter will be named after him, in that the world refuses to ever say his name again, and so will be entitled;

"The Mad Clown"

In any case, it sets up a more realistic scenario to get us from 2018 to 2029 (when the story takes place) and lay the seeds for the balance of Fargo's life (as I have discovered thus far).

Thanks again for your help!

K2

#77
Website and Forum / Re: Full Posting Privileges
15 February, 2018, 03:59:15 PM
Good day;

Though I'm questioning whether I need full-posting privileges (doubtful, and not even sure what that results in), I would like to at least get my time-zone correct to GMT-5 if at all possible.

Thanks so much for any help you can render on that matter!

K2
#78
General / Re: Looking for Pre-Street Judge Info...
14 February, 2018, 02:47:22 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 14 February, 2018, 02:20:15 PM
Hi,

there's not been much covering that era other than Origins. Which fills in the blanks of Fargo and Justice Department's rise to power.

There is already an upcoming novel series called Judges planned for this year - think there is a chapter called Avalanche online, but I think that's more 2050/60ish.

Cheers

Steve

Thanks Steve!

I have reviewed and performed searches for the "Origins" information which I believe is where I discovered C.J. Fargo's request to Joseph to undo or revamp the Street Judge system (which plays out so well it is not even funny.  My lead character having him make her a promise, which she also made the U.S.A.G. make to her when she was brought to the U.S. in 2020... Fargo spending time with "Rokka-Kae" the fulfillment of that promise).

Unfortunately I'm not sure what I should search for regarding (quote from Wikipedia) "The middle chapters of "Origins" cover Fargo's life history, and how he founded his Judge System in 2031."  My story is also playing out well in laying the seeds for the policy of celibacy, and his subsequent affair (both post story).  I suppose that's the point of my research, so that those minimal (existing) points of the series have some relevance and inspiration from my story.

In any case, thanks for your quick response!

K2
#79
General / Looking for Pre-Street Judge Info...
14 February, 2018, 02:06:41 PM
Good Morning Everyone;

Though I do not have anything of consequence to contribute at this point being essentially ignorant to all things Dredd, I 've joined hoping that some of you might be able to simply point me in the right direction to get me started.  What I am looking for is 'where can I find information on the character Eustace Fargo, and how the world in the series between the years of 2019-2031' (if such information even exists).

Currently I'm in the midst of writing what is looking to pan out as a 50-60K word novella that focusses upon a couple of weeks in 2029 wherein Eustace Fargo (2031, Chief Judge Fargo), has been sent by the then U.S. Attorney General to serve a short tour with a contractor out in the field.  The U.S.A.G. & contractors goal being to both educate and 'temper' Special Prosecutor Fargo's views and understanding of the current situation, ultimately affecting his views on the Street Judge system he is proposing, and to lay the seed for his ultimate desire to see it changed.

My exposure/knowledge of the 2000AD World of Judge Dredd is extremely limited (essentially being Dredd ignorant).  At this time I've performed a number of google searches regarding the series, Fargo, checked over a number of forums, the various Wiki-pages and naturally have seen the two movies (of which it is my understanding that "Judge Dredd" was more true to the publication, though "Dredd" definitely inspired me)...  Naturally, the better I understand Fargo and the world prior or at the time the Street Judge system begins the more relevant the story becomes (though in the end I suppose it doesn't matter, it would be nice if it struck Dredd fans as "wow, that makes sense!").

As to myself, I'm simply a novice writer that initially began writing to improve upon my own literacy (having been illiterate at one time), and will post what has to date been short stories, a few novelettes, novellas and so on simply on appropriate public forums (having never published anything beyond that, and certainly not in a professional vein, even web based).  Having just finished a 211K-word novel in the truest sense of the word (1870's old West) I needed to step away from it before beginning subsequent re-reads and edits.  So... Having just seen the movie "Dredd" again, ideas started to flow, my research began which simply inspired more ideas, and at a week's worth of writing I'm already at 30K-words (10K-just last night).

This little project of mine is really flowing fast and fleshing out quickly.  I'm REALLY liking the path it has taken, the backstory makes sense and is supportive, yet I'd like to get it as close to fitting as I possibly can.

If any of you could point me to appropriate forum areas, topics or threads that might contain that information, or even just post a couple of key-words to help in my searches, it would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks for any help you care to render!

K2