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Title: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: IronGraham on 13 October, 2013, 11:38:07 AM
Just finished reading 341, another great issue the droid have really been upping their game on this one.


Cover: really like the use of colour on this one.


Judge Dredd: don't know if you need to of read the book to get ferences or just know the premise of fifty shades but it works in this one  off. speaking of one off i kind of miss them in the 2000 AD dredd stories. Goddard does wonderful work here and in Aquila.


Preview for Dept. of Monsterology: really liked this wish it was being published in the Meg have to look for it when at Thought Bubble. PJ art is amazing as always and the story seems really good like adventure type stories.


Insurrection: [spoiler]wow didn't see that happening[/spoiler], really looking forward to the last chapter next month wonder what will take it's spot. Story & Art also fantastic. (I'm seeing a pattern here with me hmmm?)


Ordinary: liked last chapter but loved this one especially the bar scene D'Israeli is a comedy genius at story telling.thinks are hotting up hoping to see more out there powers like Bear Man.


Dredd Lines: I really enjoy reading to letters in the Meg more then AD think the people who write in are a bit more laid back and just enjoy it for what it is. I also enjoy the mixture of strips articles and Text Storyies.


Interrogation Patrick Goddard: liked this interview only complaint would of liked more of it, like how he got into comics as a child or teen, or what inspired him to become an artist.


Dredd Underbelly: this one adds onto the story and we get a glimpse at out antagonist for this piece, I prefer Flints work on this one to the prequel comic he's not trying to make it look like Urban and give him weird lips, instead it's more his normal Dredd big chin and all.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 13 October, 2013, 11:48:43 AM
I got a little surprise in the post yesterday! Thank you Dreddlines!  :)

Looking forward to Wednesday :-)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: IronGraham on 13 October, 2013, 12:04:41 PM
Cool always wondered how that works is it a random GN or do you get a say?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 13 October, 2013, 12:27:13 PM
It's random. I got Judge Anderson PSI files Vol.1, (The Rebellion/ DC version - which is a surprise, I never knew DC published 2000ad stuff before). But it looks great and I'm looking forward to reading it!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 13 October, 2013, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 13 October, 2013, 12:27:13 PM
It's random. I got Judge Anderson PSI files Vol.1, (The Rebellion/ DC version - which is a surprise, I never knew DC published 2000ad stuff before).

Blimey, that's a blast from the past! That's one of the ones I got about six/seven years ago!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 13 October, 2013, 12:47:53 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 13 October, 2013, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 13 October, 2013, 12:27:13 PM
It's random. I got Judge Anderson PSI files Vol.1, (The Rebellion/ DC version - which is a surprise, I never knew DC published 2000ad stuff before).

Blimey, that's a blast from the past! That's one of the ones I got about six/seven years ago!

Really? That is something! I like the paper quality though, and while I think it's not as complete as the U.K version (for e.g, no Arthur Ranson) it still looks great, I love the character file at the start and the timeline. A nice cover too.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Proudhuff on 14 October, 2013, 11:31:01 AM
Another cracking Meg, its the lack of ostriches i think

Great cover from Alex, but had to slip it inside the prog at work!... only to find the same image on the back of the Prog! D'oh!  :-[

A nice Dredd in the long history of Dredd stories reflecting current media hits, a couple of the bodies looked a bit odd, but that aside a nice mega-city tale.

Is that Carl Critchlow Dino Rodeo advert?

Monsterology: I'd managed to see most of this elsewhere on the web and have ordered it, my only niggle is that the colours are overall quite dark and could use a tad more contrast. This, however maybe the printing or the whole digital colours not transfering to well to paper thing.


Inserrection III wow those first two pages are classic comic thrills, no going back now...ever.

Ordinary, should be in the Prog, its the best thing that's come along for a long while, well since the last best thing.
stunning art and colour work, great cameos and humour: TTFN, Big paws, the Midous touch etc

Dreddlines, I must check I'm sending my missives to the right email   ::)

Interrogation Mr Goddard spills the beans on the sex parties at the Nerve Centre, naw, no really.

Underbelly Filum Dredd: the 'Mama Lives' thing on the first page had me thrown for a bit, and there's an Anderson's shame shot later too, but that's minor quibbles as this is top hole Dredd, this is the way to muck around with time in a comic, Dino time travellers take note.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: IndigoPrime on 14 October, 2013, 11:42:41 AM
Ordinary's fabulous—my favourite thing right now from the House of Tharg. I'm still not entirely convinced by the tone of Underbelly, but it's very readable and I hope it's not a one-off in that universe. In general, it's interesting to see how a few stories can totally flip a title. A few months ago, I was tiring of the Meg to the point of not caring, but now I prefer it to 2000 AD, which I'm finding a bit middling right now.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: James Stacey on 14 October, 2013, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 14 October, 2013, 11:31:01 AM
Is that Carl Critchlow Dino Rodeo advert?
It certainly looks like it. I'd love to see him do flesh again with his current style. Sure the story would probably still suck but it would look great. Not read the meg yet but it looks mighty fine from the initial flick through. Fantastic to see Mr Ronald back working for the House of Tharg too.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 14 October, 2013, 02:47:34 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 14 October, 2013, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 14 October, 2013, 11:31:01 AM
Is that Carl Critchlow Dino Rodeo advert?
It certainly looks like it. I'd love to see him do flesh again with his current style.

God, Critchlow on Flesh would be phenomenal!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: moly on 14 October, 2013, 07:23:21 PM
Great meg this month and great to see lobster random coming next month
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 14 October, 2013, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 14 October, 2013, 11:31:01 AM

Great cover from Alex, but had to slip it inside the prog at work!... only to find the same image on the back of the Prog! D'oh!  :-[


Just got a glimpse of the cover over at Comic Vine, oh my! It is a bit saucy isn't it?!  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: vzzbux on 14 October, 2013, 08:10:37 PM
The meg is on fire at the moment. Edging the prog.
Noticed a little blip in a panel in the underbelly story. Page 7. The perp supposed to have his hands bound behind his back yet he is clearly easing himself through the gap in the fence. Nice box of turds though.





V
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 16 October, 2013, 08:01:55 AM
This was my first Meg for ages, I came back on board as my brother's the colourist on one of the strips.

Cover - Beautiful, I love Alex Ronald's stuff.

Judge Dredd - Not bad, although inconsequential and a parody of something I have very little knowledge about, or interest in.

Monsterology - Nice little teaser. Disagree vehemently with any criticism of the colours. Can't wait for issue 1 to ship.

Insurrection - Not a great idea to start with part 8. I have the Insurrection trade and the first run, in particular was excellent. Can't really judge this fairly, but I will say with some confidence that the apparent "twist" [spoiler]The SJS are bad guys[/spoiler] won't have surprised anyone.

Ordinary - I think it's great the Meg has a creator-owned slot, and it's even better that it's not being occupied by Tank Girl any more.

Patrick Goddard interview - Not an artist I knew much about, so very interesting. He did a good job on the Judge Dredd strip too.

Dredd - Reminds me too much of other alternative Dredd strips (Law of Dredd, anyone?) and I find it quite odd that Dredd's face is the comic one and not Karl Urban's.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 16 October, 2013, 08:06:31 AM
Oh and I quite liked Detonator X. Silly but fun. Was all new to me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Dodsy on 16 October, 2013, 12:09:44 PM
Quote from: moly on 14 October, 2013, 07:23:21 PM
Great meg this month and great to see lobster random coming next month

He is? Brilliant news!  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Steven Denton on 16 October, 2013, 04:00:29 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 14 October, 2013, 11:31:01 AM

Monsterology: I'd managed to see most of this elsewhere on the web and have ordered it, my only niggle is that the colours are overall quite dark and could use a tad more contrast. This, however maybe the printing or the whole digital colours not transfering to well to paper thing.


I've not seen the printed pages yet but it was the last time I worked in RGB pretending to be CYMK for exactly that reason! Unpredictable results
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Dandontdare on 16 October, 2013, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: dodsy on 16 October, 2013, 12:09:44 PM
Quote from: moly on 14 October, 2013, 07:23:21 PM
Great meg this month and great to see lobster random coming next month

He is? Brilliant news!  :D

I had mixed reaction to this news - if they're reprinting them in a Meg floppy, it suggests that Lob's never going to get a proper trade.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: IndigoPrime on 16 October, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
Not necessarily—other floppy content's made its way to trades eventually.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 16 October, 2013, 10:33:29 PM
That one page splash on page 2 of Insurrection is a work of fucking art. And there is no other way it could've been potrayed. It is both shocking and breathtaking in equal measure. Colin MacNeil, if you're reading this- take a bow.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 16 October, 2013, 10:59:13 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 16 October, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
Not necessarily—other floppy content's made its way to trades eventually.
Not that many. Only Deadlock:Return to Termight and Snow/Tiger I think. Doesn't bode well for LR though.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: The Adventurer on 17 October, 2013, 08:01:24 AM
QuoteGreat meg this month and great to see lobster random coming next month

And just like that, my hope of seeing a proper Lobster Random trade in the next year or two dies.

Are they at least reprinting the first Lob story? Because I've actually never read it. But I wouldn't be shocked it they jumped to book 2, since book 1 already exists as as HC. But would suck for me.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: The Adventurer on 17 October, 2013, 08:02:20 AM
QuoteNot that many. Only Deadlock:Return to Termight and Snow/Tiger I think. Doesn't bode well for LR though.
Chopper: Song of the Surfer, too.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: TordelBack on 17 October, 2013, 09:19:14 AM
Quote from: The Adventurer on 17 October, 2013, 08:01:24 AM
And just like that, my hope of seeing a proper Lobster Random trade in the next year or two dies.

I wouldn't see it as a negative in the medium-long term - once the digital files have been sorted out for the floppy, the cost of producing any future TPB falls dramatically (I suspect this potential for future use is part of what makes the floppies a viable way of adding value to the Meg).  But yes, in the case of another release in the short term it's not a good sign.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 17 October, 2013, 10:18:07 AM
Seeing as the chance to see The Red Seas Vol. 2, 3, and so on, being published is remote, I'd happily settle on seeing them in the floppy. C'mon Tharg, Matt, Grud, Jovis - please make it happen!  :'(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: The Adventurer on 17 October, 2013, 10:26:47 AM
fffffffff

I just read through the Detonator X floppy and turned to the preview for next month. Its Lobster Random: Tooth & Claw.

The second Lobster Random book.

*bangs head against the nearest wall*
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 17 October, 2013, 12:18:30 PM
Lobster Random's an annoying one because it stopped one book short of the big, apocalyptic ending it had clearly been building to since the beginning. If that had emerged then collecting the strip would be a 'no-brainer', as the colonials say - Books I, II and III in one collection (and they work nicely as a trilogy) then [spoiler]The Vort[/spoiler], Book IV and Book V in another.

Quote from: The Adventurer on 17 October, 2013, 08:02:20 AM
QuoteNot that many. Only Deadlock and Snow/Tiger I think.
Chopper: Song of the Surfer, too.

And Raptaur was reprinted only a few months ahead of Case Files 16. Go back as far as the Extreme Editions and you've also got Ro-Busters, Robo Hunter, Invasion, Judge Death, all the PJ Maybe stuff, Meltdown Man, Al's Baby...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Dan Banks on 17 October, 2013, 12:39:30 PM
I second the notion of having Red Seas as a potential future floppy. I've been able to read the first and last stories and nothing in between, shame.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: TordelBack on 17 October, 2013, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Dan Banks on 17 October, 2013, 12:39:30 PM
I second the notion of having Red Seas as a potential future floppy. I've been able to read the first and last stories and nothing in between, shame.

I imagine it's on a to-do list somewhere, but it'd be a lot of floppies!  About 10, I'd think. 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Dodsy on 17 October, 2013, 12:45:07 PM
At least the first Lobster book is out there should anyone want to track it down. I'm just happy that it's finally getting re-printed in some form and hopfully the rest aren't too far behind.

On another note; how great is the Meg these days? I think it might actually beat the Prog for me at the minute which only really has Dredd and Brass Sun I'd consider my favs whilst the Meg has Dredd (obviously), the movie sequal, Insurection which I'm really hoping the entire trilogy is collected as I've never read the first two and lastely Ordinary which is one of the best strips I've read in ages.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Steve Green on 18 October, 2013, 09:16:31 AM
Ordinary is just fantastic.

The Meg overall is really strong at the moment.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Goaty on 18 October, 2013, 05:51:56 PM
Bloody hell! The Meg so hot to handle on my iPad on train tonight! Sooooo brilliant!

Post more later as re-read the Ordinary, so brilliant maddest as Dirty Frank's Low Life!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Recrewt on 21 October, 2013, 02:45:15 PM
Another fantastic Meg this one - I don't think I have ever read through one so quickly but I just couldn't put it down. 

Surprisingly, I thought it was Dredd himself that was weaker in this one.  The first story was not bad but not as good as recent others have been and underbelly just seemed to stroll along a bit - great artwork though.  Beyond that, Ordinary was fantastic and I'm really loving this story. 

But, this Meg belongs to insurrection.  I have enjoyed this so far although it never really grabbed me but this one really got my attention - there are two twists in this story but the one at the end was not surprising in the least.  That doesn't matter because the first one was fantastic - the artwork on that 2nd page was amazing and full of impact and really made me think 'what the f*** just happenned?'.  Congratulations to all involved for the fantastic artwork and for so craftily leading me up the garden path with the last episode and totally catching me by surprise this time.  As others have mentioned, Rebellion really need to release a complete TPB of this in the near future.

One last thing - what do people think about the cover?  Sometimes you get covers that relate directly to the story and sometimes you get more general ones that just show Dredd and don't relate to anything in that Meg.  Then, you get ones like this month's - it shows Dredd and the Nun from the story but doesn't really relate to what happens in it.  Does anyone else find this a bit strange? 
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 21 October, 2013, 04:11:57 PM
Quote from: Recrewt on 21 October, 2013, 02:45:15 PM
One last thing - what do people think about the cover?  Sometimes you get covers that relate directly to the story and sometimes you get more general ones that just show Dredd and don't relate to anything in that Meg.  Then, you get ones like this month's - it shows Dredd and the Nun from the story but doesn't really relate to what happens in it.  Does anyone else find this a bit strange?

I thought the cover was great. I understand that it was meant to be reminiscent of Alex Ronald's work on Vampire Vixens, hence the somewhat tenuous relationship to the actual story.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 21 October, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
So another month and another cracking Meg. Lets begin with the cover, a little on the saucy side perhaps but I'm not complaining! Alex Ronald (who's name I've not seen before in the Meg) does a really nice job here. The grey tone in the background - Dredd included - and the more colour-centric shot of the explosion and the naughty nun in the foreground, works really well.

Judge Dredd: Fifty Shades of Crime by Rob Morrison and Patrick Goddard, was very enjoyable. I also loved the colours by Peter Doherty which rendered the strip very eye-catching. The title and indeed the story is an obvious riff on 'Fifty Shades of Grey' (perhaps that's why there was a lot of grey shades on the cover!), I haven't read the novel and to be honest, couldn't be arsed to even if I had the chance. But the lack of knowledge on the book did not detract my enjoyment of the strip. I loved Goddard's artwork here, I'm more accustomed to seeing his black and white work but here, even his colour work looks great (as does it too in his work on Aquila for the prog at the moment). Overall it was a fun little story with some saucy shenanigans thrown in for good measure!

Next was a prologue story to the Dept. Of Monsterology by Gordon Rennie and P.J Holden, with lettering by Jim Campbell. #1 of the comic is out right now, and judging by the spectacular work on show in this teaser, I best get myself a copy before it all goes! P.J's artwork here is simply exquisite; his double page splashes in particular nearly had me salivating! It's not hard to see why he is one of the most exciting artists
working in comics (and 2000ad) right now.

Insurrection III Part Eight was up next and I must say, the opening pages just left my jaw hanging in disbelief - not only at the shocking development in the story but Colin MacNeil's masterful artwork. The second page in particular is just a work of breath-taking beauty, and art. It's Terrence Malick and Michaelangelo rolled into one.

(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/Nexus-wookie/insurrection.jpg)

There's almost a poetic resonance to that splash page, both for the depiction and what it entails. There's a feeling of despair and betrayal towards the end from the gruddamn Judges, Dan Abnett's excellent script has kept me intrigued throughout this series and it'll be a big drokking shame to see this excellent story end next month.

The awesome 'Ordinary' is next and another enjoyable treat of an episode it is too. If the Meg was a Cadburys Cream Egg, then Ordinary would be the delicious cream at the centre! (in fact the strip is right in the middle of the Meg!) Our protagonist, plumber Michael Fisher continues to watch as everything around him goes as mad as a hatter! Not only is he worried about the safety of his kid but Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle D also make an appearance. My favourite moment is when we see Michael in the pub and his friend who's turned into a big Black Bear walks in. The conversation which follows is really funny. I love some of the powers that the people start to exhibit, esp. in the case of the President when his private thoughts start materialising as thought bubbles! That was bloody hilarious. There's so much stuff happening in this strip, Rob Williams script is really fun and D'Israeli's brilliant artwork almost pops off the page. Take my word for it, Ordinary is frikkin' Extra-ordinary, and I bloody love it!

Dreddlines is up next and hold on, what's this? A letter by none other than myself to start off proceedings it seems? The pun-tastic header 'Burger Off' is a little 'cheesy' but I like it! Thank you Dreddlines! I enjoyed the other letters, and I wholly agree with Matt Badham; you guys do an excellent job and to call it all 'fillers' is utter nonsense and rude. I love the interviews in the Meg and the other features, that is why I love the Meg in the first place aswell as the strips. So well done to all you guys.

Patrick Goddard's Interrogation by David Baillie up next was very insightful. I've been wanting to see Goddard interviewed for a long time ever since I fell in love with his artwork in Savage. And his recent work in this very Meg and Aquila is outstanding, long may his presence in the Meg and prog continue.

Last but not least, Dredd: Underbelly Part Two, which was another exciting episode. Dredd is starting to go deeper into dangerous territory as he tries to bring the slavers to justice, but it's not all plain sailing. Henry Flint's artwork is excellent here, but I must say his style is starting to look more 'jagged' than some of his prior work, or even the prequel Ma-Ma story last year. Honestly if you compare both there's a considerable difference in the style although both are set in the same world - regardless of the change of Dredd's chin. But that is a small niggle, I'm still enjoying it. Page 3 with the shot of the city's red light district was really great, with its neon lights and wet walkways - very dystopian in a Blade Runner fashion which I love. Page 7 and the the middle panel is also a standout, as we see two things happening at once; Dredd approaching and the creep trying to escape, the box of turds was a nice idea too! And a nice shot of Anderson to cap things off.

So a magnificent Meg overall. I cannot fault any of the strips at all, all of them are really enjoyable from Judge Dredd to, er Dredd! The standout though has to be Ordinary and Insurrection. Great stuff.

The floppy 'Detonator X' was also great fun. Those who've watched the recent Pacific Rim movie will no doubt see a few similarities (although Edginton's story was done earlier, no doubt inspired by Godzilla and others). Steve Yeowell's colour artwork was great, I'm a big fan of his work. Talking of Ian Edginton and Steve Yeowell, I would love to see their other work Red Seas getting reprinted, hopefully as floppies? I know it'll probably come to a lot of floppies due to the length, but I'm desperate to read the first few series which I missed as I new reader jumping on. It'll be a big shame if we never see them re-printed. Detonator X was a fine romp, my favourite moment was when the posh martian colonists eat a 'shit-cake' unknowingly! The look on their faces when they realise was hilarious; Edginton sure has a wicked sense of humour!

Judge Dredd Megazine - 5/5
Detonator X - 4/5
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 21 October, 2013, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 21 October, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
Insurrection III Part Eight was up next and I must say, the opening pages just left my jaw hanging in disbelief - not only at the shocking development in the story but Colin MacNeil's masterful artwork.

If I had one tiny criticism, it's that there are two pages of ads at the end of Insurrection. I'd have put one of them before this episode, which would have pushed Pg1 onto a right hander and saved Pg2 for the page-turn.

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 21 October, 2013, 05:08:25 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 21 October, 2013, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 21 October, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
Insurrection III Part Eight was up next and I must say, the opening pages just left my jaw hanging in disbelief - not only at the shocking development in the story but Colin MacNeil's masterful artwork.

If I had one tiny criticism, it's that there are two pages of ads at the end of Insurrection. I'd have put one of them before this episode, which would have pushed Pg1 onto a right hander and saved Pg2 for the page-turn.

Cheers!

Jim

You know, you're absolutely right Jim. That would've worked much much better if it was on the next page. Maybe that's something that could be taken into consideration for future strips.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Proudhuff on 21 October, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 21 October, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/Nexus-wookie/insurrection.jpg)


Colin had that page of artwork at the Lakes Con, i think he MAY have got the idea I liked that page!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 October, 2013, 05:13:59 PM
For some reason I had to give up on page 4 of the Dredd.  The title just made me groan, then Christians in Mega City One? Catholics with their King James bibles, no less...  By the time it got to the superhero punching-bag-style gangsters I'd had enough.
Insurrection was good, if predictable, though I saw page two before I saw page one thanks to it being on the right, which I thought was poor placement.  I'm on the fence about the Evil Emperor supervillain type and his baby-eating plans as seeming a bit out of place in Dredd canon, but this is still my favorite strip in the Meg right now.
Will read the rest upon my next trip to the poophouse, though I recall being underwhelmed by Detonator X first time around, and then it ended with some people shagging on a robot's belly while it watches - though I am sure I remember that wrongly.

edit: Jim makes the same observation about the page-turn as I did - to the Reader Survey!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Molch-R on 21 October, 2013, 05:17:31 PM
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 21 October, 2013, 05:13:59 PM
Catholics with their King James bibles, no less...

King John, actually.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Professor Bear on 21 October, 2013, 06:18:05 PM
YOUR SUCH A NERD FOR NOWING THAT
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Molch-R on 21 October, 2013, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 21 October, 2013, 06:18:05 PM
YOUR SUCH A NERD FOR NOWING THAT

I knows!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: The Prodigal on 22 October, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
I haven't read the meg but it is a King James Bible historically. There is no "King John" Version.

Have I made a stupid point and need to read the meg?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Molch-R on 22 October, 2013, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: The Prodigal on 22 October, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
I haven't read the meg but it is a King James Bible historically. There is no "King John" Version.

Have I made a stupid point and need to read the meg?

I do believe it's intentional. In the same way that Grud = God.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: TordelBack on 22 October, 2013, 10:13:13 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 October, 2013, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: The Prodigal on 22 October, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
I haven't read the meg but it is a King James Bible historically. There is no "King John" Version.

Have I made a stupid point and need to read the meg?

I do believe it's intentional. In the same way that Grud = God.

King John = John Wagner?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: The Prodigal on 22 October, 2013, 10:13:24 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 22 October, 2013, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: The Prodigal on 22 October, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
I haven't read the meg but it is a King James Bible historically. There is no "King John" Version.

Have I made a stupid point and need to read the meg?

I do believe it's intentional. In the same way that Grud = God.

I made a stupid point and need to read the meg.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 22 October, 2013, 01:01:03 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 21 October, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 21 October, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/Nexus-wookie/insurrection.jpg)


Colin had that page of artwork at the Lakes Con, i think he MAY have got the idea I liked that page!

Cor! Imagine if you were to nab that piece, Proudhuff! Just say Colin was to sell that artwork, it'd make someone really happy and a lot of us very envious! It's a marvellous piece, no doubts about that. My favourite panel of the month.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: NapalmKev on 22 October, 2013, 02:14:30 PM
An absolutely excellent Meg!

Ordinary is superb, easily the best story at the mo.

Cheers.

Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Proudhuff on 22 October, 2013, 03:25:28 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 22 October, 2013, 01:01:03 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 21 October, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 21 October, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m560/Nexus-wookie/insurrection.jpg)


Colin had that page of artwork at the Lakes Con, i think he MAY have got the idea I liked that page!

Cor! Imagine if you were to nab that piece, Proudhuff! Just say Colin was to sell that artwork, it'd make someone really happy and a lot of us very envious! It's a marvellous piece, no doubts about that. My favourite panel of the month.
he was selling,I almost bought, he had all the artwork from In3 with him except the final chapter!

if you want to buy any of it PM him you never know!!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Proudhuff on 22 October, 2013, 03:27:31 PM
can I just apoly for the excessive use of !
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 22 October, 2013, 03:33:05 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 22 October, 2013, 03:27:31 PM
can I just apoly for the excessive use of !

Don't worry Proudhuff, I do it all the time (!).  :D
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 22 October, 2013, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 21 October, 2013, 05:01:58 PM
If I had one tiny criticism, it's that there are two pages of ads at the end of Insurrection. I'd have put one of them before this episode, which would have pushed Pg1 onto a right hander and saved Pg2 for the page-turn.

Having said that, I've just realised that the page count of this episode means if you push Pg1 onto a right, you also push the final page onto a right, meaning that you lose the page turn for the cliff-hanger. That's an awkward choice — I think Matt was probably right with it the way it is...

Cheers!

Jim
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Recrewt on 22 October, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 22 October, 2013, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 21 October, 2013, 05:01:58 PM
If I had one tiny criticism, it's that there are two pages of ads at the end of Insurrection. I'd have put one of them before this episode, which would have pushed Pg1 onto a right hander and saved Pg2 for the page-turn.

Having said that, I've just realised that the page count of this episode means if you push Pg1 onto a right, you also push the final page onto a right, meaning that you lose the page turn for the cliff-hanger. That's an awkward choice — I think Matt was probably right with it the way it is...

Cheers!

Jim

Was anyone surprised by that last page twist though?  There are two twists in this episode - the former had real impact, the latter did not so I know which one I would have prioritised. 

That said, I think the page turn reveal is massively overused in comics nowadays.  I had no problem seeing the first two pages of insurrection together.  Sure, my eyes went to the right, thought wtf and then started reading the left page to find out what was going on.   
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Professor Bear on 22 October, 2013, 05:08:33 PM
The last page reveal wasn't really apparant in the visuals, though - you had to read the dialogue, so I think it could have survived being a righty.

MAN ON INTERNET THINKS HE KNOWS BETTAH SHOCKAH
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: pauljholden on 22 October, 2013, 05:23:15 PM
Can you guys imagine the days long debate, that probably nearly made the comic late, about this very thing?

-pj
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Batman's Superior Cousin on 22 October, 2013, 05:33:18 PM
Still yet to receive my copy!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: The Adventurer on 22 October, 2013, 09:47:03 PM
Another benefit of digital. We never saw the second page of this week's Insurection coming!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Proudhuff on 23 October, 2013, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 21 October, 2013, 05:17:31 PM
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 21 October, 2013, 05:13:59 PM
Catholics with their King James bibles, no less...

King John, actually.

Shirley that should be King Juan/Carlos?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Recrewt on 23 October, 2013, 01:01:26 PM
Talking of page-turn reveals - surely that last page of Dept of Monsterology should have been one?  ::)

Honestly, its not that hard - you just go advert, page turn, advert, page turn, etc.  ;)

Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Fungus on 23 October, 2013, 06:39:49 PM
Suppose the absolute foolproof way - with 2 page-reveals - is to pace the episode appropriately?

Overall, a top Meg. Read it in one sitting and that almost never happens.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: SuperSurfer on 23 October, 2013, 11:29:11 PM
Very good Meg. Really enjoying it these days.

I don't have all my Megs to hand but on the pagination debate, isn't the monthly page turn reveal:
INSURRECTION III
...hence that strip finishing on a left hand page.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 25 October, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
I really love the cover of 341. And no, it's not 'cos of the gun toting sexy nun, it's because of... Dredd's helmet.

I think it's really well done!  It actually looks like a helmet that is sitting on a mans head. It reminds you there's actually a human face under there.  I think it's the shading on Dredd's face, and the way the helmet doesn't wrap itself around his head, as it sometimes does when other artists depict him. 

Also, the facial features visible lend themselves to the face continuing upwards underneath. A nice pronounced nasal cleft and lovely shading around the mouth and jaw.  Good stuff!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 25 October, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 25 October, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
I really love the cover of 341. And no, it's not 'cos of the gun toting sexy nun, it's because of... Dredd's helmet.

An entertaining spin on "I only read it for the articles"  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 27 October, 2013, 07:40:13 AM
I'm just going through the 2nd series of Insurrection in the Meg, I know I moaned about Colin's change of artwork in this new series a while back, but if anything, it just shows what a versatile artist he is. I love both his styles - and this new series has been a cracking show. I'm dreading the final episode as I don't want it to be the end. What are the plans for a future tpb? I hope we get all three series put into one collection.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 27 October, 2013, 07:47:50 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 25 October, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 25 October, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
I really love the cover of 341. And no, it's not 'cos of the gun toting sexy nun, it's because of... Dredd's helmet.

An entertaining spin on "I only read it for the articles"  ;)
You owe me a cup of Tea for the one I just spat out over the monitor.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: BPP on 28 October, 2013, 12:19:01 PM
Meg 341 is probably the strongest single issue of any Rebellion title this year. Just great stuff.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: GordyM on 30 October, 2013, 11:42:09 AM
Words cannot express how much I'm loving Ordinary! It feels so fresh and different from the usual super-powered stories we see trudging around in circles doing the same old thing. As soon as the bear walked into the bar I knew this was not just going to be a great series but something special.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Proudhuff on 30 October, 2013, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: GordyM on 30 October, 2013, 11:42:09 AM
Words cannot express how much I'm loving Ordinary! It feels so fresh and different from the usual super-powered stories we see trudging around in circles doing the same old thing. As soon as the bear walked into the bar I knew this was not just going to be a great series but something special.

You just like it cause you're the lead...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: GordyM on 30 October, 2013, 11:46:54 AM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 30 October, 2013, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: GordyM on 30 October, 2013, 11:42:09 AM
Words cannot express how much I'm loving Ordinary! It feels so fresh and different from the usual super-powered stories we see trudging around in circles doing the same old thing. As soon as the bear walked into the bar I knew this was not just going to be a great series but something special.

You just like it cause you're the lead...

If I can find someone with a bear costume that's my Halloween outfit sorted for this weekend.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: TordelBack on 30 October, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
Acres of good reading in this month's Meg, with Ordinary my clear favourite: superb work from Rob and Matt. 

Judge Dredd was okay, although I missed the 50 Shades reference until I noticed the title- has anyone here actually read that thing?  The MaMa-ish bath shot at the end could go either way for me.

I haven't really been able to get into Insurrection III, having missed bits of the first series, all of the second, and only being on my third episode of this one.  That said, this month's was very enjoyable in isolation, and I finally got on board with Colin's new style, which does some amazing things here.

The Monsterology prequel/teaser/prologue was just as good as the creative team would suggest, and I look forward to reading the comic in good time.  Fair play to all concerned for the arrangement that sees this trailer appear in the Meg - mature and mutually supportive thinking.

Dredd was very good, I really liked the movielike page showing the effects of Psych, but I am still a little unsure about Dredd's face: even allowing the Urban likeness issues, is there any need to draw the chin as extreme as some of the more extreme comic Dredds?  Add Anderson's badge to this, and I think I'd prefer if the differences between the versions were emphasised rather than blurred.

Detonator X was as poor as I remember, but refreshingly much shorter than it seemed at the time.  Yeowell and Blythe do not work together (Peter Doherty or Gary Caldwell on colours would have been a better plan), and in panel after panel the art fails to convey any sense of scale or spectacle, which would have been the insubstantial story's only real grace. 

The Goddard interview was interesting but too short, and overall I felt the absence of more text pages. 

That said, this is still a phenomenal amount of quality material under one wrapper.  Looking forward to the Lob floppy next month.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Daveycandlish on 30 October, 2013, 04:07:36 PM
Lob floppy sounds rude.

But I can't wait!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: sheldipez on 30 October, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 30 October, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
Dredd was very good, I really liked the movielike page showing the effects of Psych, but I am still a little unsure about Dredd's face: even allowing the Urban likeness issues, is there any need to draw the chin as extreme as some of the more extreme comic Dredds?  Add Anderson's badge to this, and I think I'd prefer if the differences between the versions were emphasised rather than blurred.

I understand why you'd want to keep Dredd away from looking too much like Urban, to avoid any issues with likeness rights, but I'm really not keen on him looking like the standard weathered comic-book Dredd proper. Is this going into trade at all? If so I can't wait for the "I enjoyed this book, it's a good sequel to the movie but WTF is up with Dredd's chin?" reviews from non-fans.

Ordinary and the Monsterology prologue was my highlights this Meg.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 03 November, 2013, 05:01:11 PM
Quote from: sheldipez on 30 October, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 30 October, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
Dredd was very good, I really liked the movielike page showing the effects of Psych, but I am still a little unsure about Dredd's face: even allowing the Urban likeness issues, is there any need to draw the chin as extreme as some of the more extreme comic Dredds?  Add Anderson's badge to this, and I think I'd prefer if the differences between the versions were emphasised rather than blurred.

I understand why you'd want to keep Dredd away from looking too much like Urban, to avoid any issues with likeness rights, but I'm really not keen on him looking like the standard weathered comic-book Dredd proper. Is this going into trade at all? If so I can't wait for the "I enjoyed this book, it's a good sequel to the movie but WTF is up with Dredd's chin?" reviews from non-fans.

Ordinary and the Monsterology prologue was my highlights this Meg.

That chin really looks out of place in this strip and looks kinda weird in that uniform, it's supposed to be 'real' and gritty like the movie, but it looks like our Joe walked off the pages of the comic and straight into the Dredd movie!  :D

Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: GrudgeJohnDeed on 05 November, 2013, 06:27:56 PM
just reading it now, fantastic so far. just noticed that michael fisher has my phone :D

(http://i.imgur.com/Bdo3mXm.gif)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 07 November, 2013, 01:04:25 PM
Proudhuff, do you hold the record number of letters sent/ published in the Meg? I'm just reading through the back issues and you seem to have a letter published each month! Not that I'm complaining as I quite enjoy reading 'em!  :lol:
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: James Stacey on 07 November, 2013, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 07 November, 2013, 01:04:25 PM
Proudhuff, do you hold the record number of letters sent/ published in the Meg? I'm just reading through the back issues and you seem to have a letter published each month! Not that I'm complaining as I quite enjoy reading 'em!  :lol:
What we need is some sort of 'beast' of a database to tell us. Where's Butt'man when you need him ?
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 07 November, 2013, 01:33:48 PM
He must be nearly rivalling Floyd Kermode these days...
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Proudhuff on 07 November, 2013, 07:46:45 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 07 November, 2013, 01:33:48 PM
He must be nearly rivalling Floyd Kermode these days...

nope far from it unfortunately, Buttman is a higher scorer too

Its all here; http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=36119.0 (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=36119.0)
28 eye bleeding pages
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Proudhuff on 07 November, 2013, 07:49:50 PM
'Rat farts, it's Tom Proudfoot now. Looks like we picked a bad week to reignite the Beast's boilers. Tom scores the longest letter of the issue with a full 6 inches of mirthless drivel. Still size isn't everything as we regularly tell our wife, it's what you do with it that matters. What does Tom do with his? Well that's for the courts to decide. As for his letter where to begin? Nowhere? No we have to be fair and go through it and point out every bit of style, wit and insight...

Tom is 21 today in letters terms. His actual age is not known as the records were destroyed in a Zeppelin attack. He first bothered this particular Beast back in 1983 with a Prog 309 effort. After a childlike drawing in Prog 427 he's been like a pesky gnat over the years with at least 3 published in each year since 2008. This is his second score (in letters terms, he is from Em'bra after all) of 2012 and he's on course to at least match 2011's 4.

We round off on a high with 'Mr Letters' Stephen Watson of Paisley who once again breaks the world record, moving the ceiling to 83 and a lead of two over Crocodile Dunwriting. This makes it a pair for 2012 for Watson and he'll need to move some to break last year's tally of 11. He now has 45 Meg letters to his credit (a record) and 38 in the Prog (not a record). 1999 was the last year we failed to see Mr Watson and at this rate the Knighthood must be a formality.

Watson has a reputation for saying it like it is and this must have gained the respect of the editor who is happy to publish all of the eloquent brickbats which are offered. "Bit Cold" - WHACK, "Old Hat" - SMASH, "Filed under 'Forget'" - KA-POW!. He does add some crème fraiche to the turd pudding by saying the Mark Millar interview was OK before giving a lurid snap shot of his mind's eye as he goes into graphic detail about his Mr Tumnus fixation'
Says it all really.
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 07 November, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
 :lol:

I like Proudhuff's letters, B'man! Keep 'em coming I say!
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Proudhuff on 09 November, 2013, 12:33:53 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 07 November, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
:lol:

I like Proudhuff's letters, B'man! Keep 'em coming I say!

Given my lack of success hitting the target recently i fear Tharg's minnons have me blacklisted!  :-X
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: Mabs on 09 November, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
Well it's their loss!  ;)
Title: Re: Judge Dredd Megazine 341
Post by: DrJomster on 08 December, 2013, 12:46:29 AM
Still catching up on my Megs thanks to cruel RL... But, Lordy me, that was good! Meg beats Prog shocker! Last month's Meg was strong too! Great work, folks!