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Colin YNWA

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Re: Matt 'the other' Wagner
« Reply #75 on: 28 January, 2021, 06:01:56 PM »
Oh that is good news - Dark Horse's website has it listed then as well - Oh happy day!

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Re: Matt 'the other' Wagner
« Reply #76 on: 05 February, 2021, 11:40:29 AM »
Well a day of self indulgence means not only have I got my 45 minute sketch done I've also been able to finish the last if the Grendel Comico series and my God do I love it.

These last two arcs are almost as good as the Christine Spar story, if not quite a pure. The first deals with a conflicit between christian church and the businesses that now rule the recovering world. A more damaged vessel for Grendel runs amok in this conflicit as a future Grendel starts to define what the spirit has become. After all if the church is corrupt and evil what must become of the spirit, the devil, it defines as evil in order to defeat them? Its a very interesting developmentand exploration of evil, anger and agression. As the conflicit escalates brilliantly the new vessel for Grendel also slowly comes under its now different control in the form of the leader Orion Assante.

By the end there is a glorious battle, the church is exposed as the realm of vampires, who in defeat seed a new, less controlled plague of the uindead. Its quite, quite brilliant.

After this the final 7 issues are dense, slowly paced piece of craft showing the rise of Orion Assante from business leader, to national president - or Grendel - to world leader. Its not as thrilling and energetic as what has gone before, but in it's cold, plotted delivery no less brilliant. Vampires inhabit the edges of this story and fittingly the back half of the comics in a more traditional strip that details their own development as a nation.

In the simply stunning final comic, issue 40, the take of the life of Orion comes to its end with the glorious revelation that the story we've been reading is the one documented by his step daughter - taking us right back to the start of the series and Christine Spar indirectly (there's a generation seperating them but the parallel is clear). Other tales are set up so we get that perfect end I've mentioned in other threads. A fantastic end in and of itself, but one that clearly leaves doors open for future stories. Which we'll get to soon enough.

One other thing to note is how brilliantly dense and packed these comics are. In the hour or so I typically get to read in the evenings if I'm reading modern US comics I can often rattle through 5, 6 even 7 comics - 2000ad I get through 3 typically. These Grendel comics I was reading at a rate of 2 or 3 an evening. They demand attention and have a lot going on. The work you put in is so richly rewarded.

I'll call it now - and as I've said before change my mind at a moments notice. This is the best comic series of all time - by which I mean my favourite - after 2000ad of course.

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Re: Matt 'the other' Wagner
« Reply #77 on: 02 March, 2021, 09:20:42 PM »
I underestimated  Grendel - War Child it would seem. A ten issue mini or issues 41-50 of the ongoing if you will sees the comic move to Dark Horse and back to more traditional comic storytelling.

What it lacks in innovation it more than makes up for in craft. Patrick McEown does the bulk of the art and does a fantastic job of being like Matt Wagner while being entirely his own thing. The story of escape, legacy has more akin to the first arc of the ongoing with a more immediately traditional action adventure. But like that story its laced with so much depth and character. Weaved with simple complexity and it just downright fantastic.

A few odds and sods to go - I think I'm skipping the crossovers for now, two with Bats one with The Shadow as I recall they don't work anywhere near as well as these issues (mind I didn't remember how good War Child was so maybe...) and we're done.

Grendel is the best comics out there. Read it.

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Re: Matt 'the other' Wagner
« Reply #78 on: 04 March, 2021, 09:35:17 AM »
I underestimated  Grendel - War Child it would seem. A ten issue mini or issues 41-50 of the ongoing if you will sees the comic move to Dark Horse and back to more traditional comic storytelling.


I remember picking this up monthly in my early teens solely on the back of Biz doing a few covers for it.
It was one helluva ride back then, and also a second time when I read the omnibus a coupla years ago.
Rock solid sci-fi violence.

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Re: Matt 'the other' Wagner
« Reply #79 on: 01 May, 2021, 08:48:05 PM »
In the after blurb of Devil's Odyssey we have the wonderful news that when the series finishes Matt Wagner has an "unexpected" sequel coming our way. More Grendel = a better world!

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Re: Matt 'the other' Wagner
« Reply #80 on: 26 August, 2021, 04:09:14 PM »
Depending on how you like your comics the Omnibus are available at a decent price digitally and if you eBay you can get a complete set of the Comico run for a reasonable prices - though I imagine with patience you can get them at a great price.

Wandered into the toon today to check out the local comic and record shops (we moved up to Newcastle just before first lockdown occurred so have only recently started to explore properly). Sat there on the shelf was a copy of the first Grendel Omnibus so I snapped that up. Might take a little while to surface in the reading pile though had a sudden influx of books recently so there's a bit of a queue building up.

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Re: Matt 'the other' Wagner
« Reply #81 on: 26 August, 2021, 04:36:37 PM »
Fingers crossed you like it.

The first Omnibus contains the Hunter Rose stuff and comes from comics created of maybe 30 years so its really interesting form that perspective as well - the omnibus is order chronologically by Hunter Rose's life as opposed to the order the strips were created in.

Its like a choppy diary I suppose.

This thread makes me miss Bolt-01