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: The Meg
: The Enigmatic Dr X 03 June, 2003, 11:00:19 PM
Is it me, or is the Meg a bit pants these days. Perhaps it's suffering from being a monthly, or maybe it seems poor in comparison to the heady heights of 2K.

Even so, with the exception of Dredd, I can't think of a story in it I really like.

Black Siddha is bewildering oddness, but I don't want to single it out for criticism - it is indicative of the current level of the Meg.

Young Middenface is dull as dishwater; what next - young Max Normal/ Wulf/ other supporting character? This is insipid filler for me, down there with Soul Sisters (nice art though, even if it does make me pine for Luke Kirby)

Family is OK, I suppose - but can seem rushed.

Slaine is like a lot of stuff from the 80s (and I don't just mean comics) - better in the memory than in the cold light of day.

As for Darkie's Mob - well, it doesn't half go on. I know it was simpler back then, but Christ how many times can we have the same story?

THen there's Devlin Waugh. Great art, but what has actually happened in this story? Feck all! Episode 1 - infinity seems to involve some Julian Clary patter and folk being killed by vampires, before the vamps themselves are killed by Devlin. Ho hum - what a waste of a character! It's like Coronotion Street - you can miss an episode and pick it with the next one, safe in the knowledge that nothing has happened.

I know the Meg has to have reprint to survive, but I would rather have old Stronium Dogs from Starlord, old Eagle stuff (if Rebellion have the rights) or old Dredd summer special/ annual reprints (Last of the Bad Guys anyone, or the Dredd/ Alpha team up?).

As for original stories, what about something funny - Al's Baby style?

Could it be that too much focus is on the weekly, with not enough on the Meg? Why, for example, couldn't Lobster Random have been a Meg tale? He could've been a perp bust out a Cube.

Anyway, just thought I say what's been on my mind for a while.
: Re: The Meg
: El Spurioso 03 June, 2003, 11:06:28 PM
I suspect a lot of tales in the Meg would read a *lot* better if you go back and digest them in one sitting.  Remember that with the weekly format you're digesting, say, 6 pages per week.  That seems about right, and matches more-or-less the US standard of 22-26 pages a month.

In the meg we're looking at 6-10 pages of story per month.  The story could be blindingly fabulous, but by the time the next issues rolls round it's lost some of its potency, maybe even readers have forgotten what's happened.

I know, for example, that 'Family' and the Devlin Waugh tale demonstrate their fabulous pacing with FAR FAR more efficacy if you chomp it down all at once, rather than bit-by-bit.

Just my torts, like.
: Re: The Meg
: Matt 03 June, 2003, 11:24:22 PM
I agree, I think the gap between issues is responsible for the loss of impact in certain stories. I haven't been able to follow Family at all and guess I'll have to read it all in one sitting before i can even judge it for myself. As for the Meg as a whole I think it's better then ever before. Go back to those first early issues an you'll see what I mean, for every America & Young Death you had a MegaCity Times, Chopper: Earth Wind & Fire, and Soul Sisters. i think that the Meg has got the right mix at the minute. All I would like to see is the Meg building up its own stable of characters. The loss of new Shimura & Armitage material is a real shame. Armitage in particular never got to see its full potential. I wouldn't mind seeing a return for The Inspectre which I enjoyed. As for Brit Cit Brute, Harmony and that shakespearen judge serie (what was that all about?) well they were just shit anyway.
: Re: The Meg
: Spaceghost 03 June, 2003, 11:40:36 PM
I can't believe they've gone from Scarlet Traces and Rogue trooper reprints to Family which is a confused and boring mess. All the characters look and speak the same. I don't have any idea what's going on and don't care. This months Dredd was good though and I personally like young Middenface. Black Siddha has taken 6 months to do precisely nothing except contain some daft carry on style "humour". Bring back Lenny Zero.
: Re: The Meg
: Slippery PD 04 June, 2003, 12:03:14 AM
I think if Family was in the weekly and was possibly coloured it would have been better.

I too like Middenface, but the meg has had a drop in standard.  I tend to think that its down to the stories picked or commisioned.  None of them seem suited for monthly episodes.  I think longer page count in the meg and a fewer story count may make it improve again.

Yer Digs
: Re: The Meg
: test 4 echo 04 June, 2003, 12:34:34 AM
I'm kinda happy with the meg at the minute, apart from the Slaine reprints which I didn't like first time round, and I can't make my mind up about "kill a hundred japs lose a man" Darkies Mob. It's the familiar story told through soldiers diary that was done well in Bad Company, better in Charlies War.

With the exception of Dredd and devlin, I do tend to read stories several parts at a time rather than the whole meg at once.

kris
: Re: The Meg
: Huey 04 June, 2003, 04:44:58 AM
Hmmm,...
You know, whenever I read the letters page on the latest prog or meg I wonder if I'm reading the same comic as everybody else. Maybe I keep getting the copy printed for Mars. In my prog the Balls Brothers were brilliant, as were Big Dave, Teenage Tax Consultant and Ace Trucking. Going by the letters page they sucked in the Earth copy. On my world Dante was OK. for everybody else a work of genius.
I'm getting the same feeling here. IMO the latest megs have been the best ones since the first volume. For me, any of the stories mentioned would have been the stand out stories in tooth ( bar Dredd).
Favourites:
Middenface - of the many flashback stories in either title this seems the best. Unlike others it's not totally boxed in by continuity. there's a whole cast ofcharacters to which anything can happen. It's also been pretty adaptable. the first stories were really funny and now we have a quieter tone.
Siddha - ( Again IMO) Mills seems at his best when he's starting something new. It's such a shame that he hasn't created anything new for tooth in 20 years. This is fresh, original, funny and unlike any other comic I've seen recently.
As for reprints, I'd say a good percentage of the megs readers have read the back catalogue of both publications ( Maybe I'm wrong). so I'm more happy to see things I don't already own and haven't read. The Daily star Dredds were great, but most of the ones chosen had already been reprinted. the Battle stuff is a good second best. Looking forward to "Charley's war".
- H
: Re: The Meg
: Huey 04 June, 2003, 04:50:32 AM
"All I would like to see is the Meg building up its own stable of characters. The loss of new Shimura & Armitage material is a real shame. Armitage in particular never got to see its full potential"

Ah, Missionary Man (Though appearing in great stories) was the one which,for me, still had a lot more milage. There were loads of hints about his past, but many never got followed up: his curse, him killing his brother, his past as a judge.

Then again, maybe that was the point and I'm just being thick.
: Re: The Meg
: Buddy 04 June, 2003, 06:40:13 AM
Is it just me or is the art on Dredd in the Meg this month pish?

How'd he get the job? Was there on one else available?
: Re: The Meg
: Tu-plang 04 June, 2003, 08:57:38 AM
I'd agree that the Meg has taken a step down in quality of late.  This year's megs have jumped the gun a bit by upping it to 5 new strips with about 40 pages of new stuff leaving them with 6 or so pages each apart from Dredd.  Last year we were on a real high with the Scarlet Traces and  Bad Company reprints and a good 8-10 pages a strip, but now all of a sudden we have a wierd page size to support shitty Slaine reprints and probably too many pointless pages of feature material (Hall of Heroes - is this new to anyone?).

And as an added bonus the design looks that little bit messier.
: Re: The Meg
: Floyd-the-k 04 June, 2003, 09:36:44 AM
Dr X, good to hear what`s on your mind!
 For mine, Family has good art but is deeply uninteresting, Lobster Random would make a great meg story, you are right about the Devlin Waugh story.  It`s a waste of good characters and a great premise.
I think young Middenface is okay though.
  Black Siddha has an interesting premise but is absolute crap!  I want to single it out.  Maybe it`s poisoning your view of the rest of the meg.
 Anyway, good to read you!
cheers,

Floyd
: Re: The Meg
: DavidXBrunt 04 June, 2003, 03:43:21 PM
I really enjoyed the latest Meg. Admittedly the new material could do with being in longer doses (or perhaps transferred to the weekly, but the stories themselves are all enjoyable. I particularly enjoyed Middenface, which has turned into a real favourite of mine. Long may he continue to be young, if you know what I mean.

As for the features, I think the Meg has exactly the right mix just now. The hall of heroes is at least looking over surprising material (Revere, Tyranny Rex) and on the whole doing a good job of re-evaluating the strips. The interviews are good value, and if they were to run the occasional interview as long as the John Sanders feature in the Christmas issue I'd be pleased. Some people (John Wagner, Ian Gibson, Alan Grant Carlos Ezquerra, Gerry-Finley Day, Ron Smith) have done so much for the g.g.c. that one page wouldn't do them justice.

Oh, and I really like the prose stories.
: Re: The Meg
: WoD 04 June, 2003, 03:57:23 PM
I've tried reading the Meg three times so far this week, but the only thing I managed before I got bored was the Dredd story.  I always liked the Angel of Death character, nice to see her again.  As for the rest, a quick flick through shows more of the same as per the previous month.

Darkies Mob is OK, but Dr X is right, this is the same story again and again.

I'm going to hold back any judgement on Family until I reread it in one sitting, as this seems the only way to do it justice.

The one thing that I hate though is bloody Middenface.  This character sucks.  Please let him grow old quick and die.

WoD.
: Re: The Meg
: The Enigmatic Dr X 04 June, 2003, 04:04:15 PM
Oh, yeah - the text stories.

Think about it. Text. In a comic.

I never read these when they were in the annuals, and I'll never read them in the Meg. They are worse than any other filler - give me droid profiles or anything (even Roxilla!) - but no text stories.

Before anyone defends them, think on this - those pages could be taken up by cheaper reprints of Future Shocks, old Robo-Hunter, or non-2K reprint like Preacher.
: Re: The Meg
: GordonR 04 June, 2003, 04:11:24 PM
>>Oh, yeah - the text stories.
>>
>>Think about it. Text. In a comic.


Yeah, but they pay really well...

;->



: Re: The Meg
: Oddboy 04 June, 2003, 04:12:57 PM
Last year's Megazine was on a high, the new format has brought in a duller Meg it really has.

: Re: The Meg
: DavidXBrunt 04 June, 2003, 04:22:52 PM
Okay, so those pages could reprint something else. But why is a reprint preferable to something new? I don't see how that works.

The stories so far have been ogood stuff, Gordon and Jonathon Clements tales being enjoyable, and Da Bish's would have been just as good if it weren't for the really odd punchline.

And can you prove that reprints would be cheaper?
: Re: The Meg
: Matt 04 June, 2003, 05:14:10 PM
I also like the text stories. I think the ones printed so far have been really good. Mind you the novels were really good when they started but they soon got to the standard of The Hundredfold Problem.
: Re: The Meg
: Proudhuff 04 June, 2003, 05:20:46 PM
Ha, must agree with Odd boy, damn!

It does seem to be dipping a bit, Dredd is fine but the problem with Darkies mob, Devin, Pat Mills latest is there doesn't seem much progress from month to month, Devlin for example is a great character but its just been one subaquavampire slug fest each month, as Ian Dury would say 'What a waste'
: Re: The Meg
: IndigoPrime 04 June, 2003, 06:50:43 PM
I agree with most of this: Devlin is a huge disappointment, although it does suffer from only having six pages per month. It would have worked better in 2000AD and will probably be good when collected. Pat Mills' latest is, well, crap. It has good ideas, but his current ideal seems to be to take a one-to-two-part story, stretch it over six-to-ten parts, and call it a "book"... So much for fast-paced thrills...
: Re: The Meg
: thinky 05 June, 2003, 03:35:02 AM
i like the middenface stories... even though we know his 'present' (as it were), i'm relly enjoying the short stories that piece in the empty bits.

middenface's character is really developing, and what's not to like about B&W Ridgway?

yttim?
: Re: The Meg
: W. R. Logan 05 June, 2003, 03:40:05 AM
>Is it just me or is the art on Dredd in the Meg this month pish?

Pish.

Dont get me started on Dredd artists. I've gone on for years that Dredd is Britains best comic character and deserves the best artists. A small number of the best knocking out pages with maximum thrillpower. These days a trained monkey would get a shot.

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
: Re: The Meg
: thinky 05 June, 2003, 03:42:25 AM
that's a bit harsh
: Re: The Meg
: W. R. Logan 05 June, 2003, 03:43:14 AM
>Think about it. Text. In a comic.

no text in a comic, you?ll be saying that there should be no pics in books?

couldn?t care if it was in hieroglyphics, my only care is if it entertains.

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
: Re: The Meg
: Huey 05 June, 2003, 05:03:01 AM
"Dont get me started on Dredd artists. I've gone on for years that Dredd is Britains best comic character and deserves the best artists."

Totally agree. IIRC Barry Kitson talking about "Oz" said that the editors were trying to get THE best artists on that epic. There did actually seem to be some thouht as to who got what episodes.
Many of the epics since then have had a different approach. We've even seen some newbies cut their teth on Dredd during an epic. then they improve and are shipped off to lesser thrills.

as for the character profiles: I'm not sure 1 page can really do any character justice. It's not long enough to really be informative. I'd rather a behind-the-scenes look of the length of a TPO on each character covered.

: Re: The Meg
: W. R. Logan 05 June, 2003, 08:18:13 AM
>that's a bit harsh

Read some of the latest Dredd stories and tell me who the artists are. Then tell me where they've appeared before and where they made their name.

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.
: Re: The Meg
: Alan Barnes 05 June, 2003, 06:14:56 PM
"I think the gap between issues is responsible for the loss of impact in certain stories. I haven't been able to follow Family at all and guess I'll have to read it all in one sitting before i can even judge it for myself. As for the Meg as a whole I think it's better then ever before. Go back to those first early issues an you'll see what I mean, for every America & Young Death you had a MegaCity Times, Chopper: Earth Wind & Fire, and Soul Sisters. i think that the Meg has got the right mix at the minute."

I don't completely disagree with the idea that the 6-page serials lose a lot of their impetus - 6 or 7 months is a very long time for any one story to be kicking around. A bargain of necessity, really: I wanted to go up to five different stories simply because whatever you commission, the chances of any one reader enjoying ALL the stories running are remote. And enjoying three or four out of five stories is a far better 'hit ratio' than one or two out of three. There's a reason for the classic 2000 AD/Meg line-up being five stories - it's what works!

But yeah, the six-page chunks cause everything to lose a bit of momentum, and that's to the detriment of the mag. So I'm not planning to run any more 6-page serials once 'Red Tide' concludes in the autumn - come the New Year (assuming one already-commissioned story in particular can be got up to speed), there'll be no serials told in anything less than 8-page chunks, with a few 12s and 16s thrown in, and of no more than 6 parts either (3 and 4 parts will become a bit more standard). There'll be a few series told as linked stand-alone tales, too (eg XTNCT, from Meg 209 on), and hopefully some meaty one-offs.

"All I would like to see is the Meg building up its own stable of characters. The loss of new Shimura & Armitage material is a real shame. Armitage in particular never got to see its full potential. I wouldn't mind seeing a return for The Inspectre which I enjoyed. "

Agree on the former point, which is why Bato Loco (from Meg 202) returns next issue. Devlin's back with us, and Juliet November has been swiped for the Meg, too. Middenface McNulty has been a Meg character as far back as volume 1. Also Johnny Woo (from 'Sino-Town', Prog 123-something IIRC) is back in a 2-parter beginning in 209, and I wouldn't be surprised if he made a few solo appearances after that ... ditto a new Carlos Ezquerra character who first appears in 211's Dredd. Plus there's Death by Wagner & Irving from 209: I'll try to stick some preview art up on the site in the next couple of weeks. One of the three old characters you mention may well make a reappearance - perhaps sooner than you think! And one other major Meg staple of previous years is back in its pages from 214 (Dec) ... but I'll leave you in suspense for a bit longer ...

Will that do you for now?

It's important for the Meg to experiment with characters, creators and formats, so I'm not going to apologise if the balance of elements over issues 201-208 hasn't been perfect. But if it hasn't been quite to your liking, I promise you that steps have already been taken. I know a significant minority of purists want to see the Meg full of Dredd universe characters and nothing else (if so, issues 214-218 will make you very happy!), so I will be pulling back on the non-Dredd serials a bit. That said, I think Family, Black Siddha and Bendatti Vendetta were all great in one way or another, and they all deserve to be seen again: there's a tradition of the Meg publishing other-world stuff which wouldn't happily fit within the pages of 2000 (eg Al's Baby), and I really want to see that continue. You need the courage to publish a few off-beat 'love em or hate em' strips which you know are going to divide your readership - Black Siddha being an obvious example (I warn you now, XTNCT's another) - partly for the sake of variety, and partly cos you'll never be able to please all of the people all of the time.

Sorry to be so long-winded and defensive. I'll bugger off now.

--Alan
: Re: The Meg
: Trout 05 June, 2003, 11:00:48 PM
I enjoyed Dredd and Middenface, loved Darkie's Mob and generally like Devlin and Family, although I agree with the pacing issue, to some extent.

I'm not reading Slaine because I've read it quite often before, and will get to the text story when I've got another quiet moment to myself.

Black Siddha is self-conscious and self-indulgent and I am less than keen on it, but the Meg's an anthology, and as long as there are Mills fans out there his stuff will be used. I'm not deeply offended by it or anything.

I loved, loved, loved the cover. It's beautiful, moody, eye-catching stuff and it put me in mind of the various DC annual covers done in a "pulp" way a few years ago, and a terrific Astro City GN: The Tarnished Hero. (Highly recommended as an excellent noir-ish tale!)

I've posted this without reading anyone else's posts, including Alan's, because I wanted to feel I was being entirely honest and objective. I'll go and read them now and add my vitriol, if necessary, later.
:-)

- Trout
: Re: The Meg
: Trout 05 June, 2003, 11:03:29 PM
"without reading anyone else's posts"

Apart from the first couple, of course.

- Trout
: Re: The Meg
: Trout 05 June, 2003, 11:15:17 PM
Back again

1) Alan - there's definitely no need to apologise for an informative and interesting contribution to what we were discussing. Thanks for the hints!

2) "anything less than 8-page chunks"
My champagne cork just popped! (oo-er)

3) "Death by Wagner & Irving" Woo-hoo!
The same for Devlin! I hope the old favourite is Shimura. (Praying it's not Armitage... As far as I'm concerned, his untapped potential was comprehensively tapped in Colin Dexter's novels. :-) "Lewis!")

Oh, and BRING BACK QUITELY!

- Trout
: Re: The Meg
: Trout 05 June, 2003, 11:17:24 PM
Finally, with apologies for four posts in a row:

I also dislike Manley's stuff. It got serious compliments here when he was doing Juliet November and I was a bit puzzled.

I agree Dredd deserves better, with apologies to the feelings of a new artist.
I'm all for new talent, but I don't think he's developed his enough to tackle Dredd.

- Trout
: Re: The Meg
: longmanshort 05 June, 2003, 11:27:57 PM
"I also dislike Manley's stuff. It got serious compliments here when he was doing Juliet November and I was a bit puzzled."

You and me both. The latest Meg Dredd just isn't right and, certainly at this point, I don't think the artist has what it takes to do Dredd. That's not to say he'll NEVER be able to, but I think it was a poor choice for a cracking Wagner script.

On the whole tho Alan, the Meg looks, feels and reads the best it ever has. Keep it up (but with less Slaine)!
: Re: The Meg
: Proudhuff 06 June, 2003, 04:15:53 PM
Alan, Thanks for that, that is about the most helpful forward looking thing I've seen in ages.

It does give a feeling that there is good reasoning behind the set up and that someones listening, far from ++long-winded and defensive++.

Nothing less than 8-page chunks!!! yahoo !

Glad I included the Meg in my new subscription

Yoiur may seem a thankless task at times, so Thanks!

HuffDaddy
: Re: The Meg
: Tiplodocus 06 June, 2003, 06:45:23 PM
Blimey - we've had loads of creators chipping in on the site this week.  They normally pop up just after a say something was a bit rubbish!. .

However, I wasn't going to say anything was lame about the Meg.

I'm enjoying it quite a bit at the moment.

I thought the cover was excellent - my only complaint was that the "pulp" image didn't refelct the style (writing and art) of the Dredd story inside.  This actually was a bit of relief because when I say it I thought "Cripes - we're in for some bad Raymond Chandler parody here".  I'm not overly keen on Manley's art - too comedic for me but at least it was clean and clear.

Everything else I enjoyed pretty much. Like a lot of people I'll be rereading FAMILY in one sitting and I do worry about the pacing of Black Siddha (exactly how LITTLE has happened?) but I think it's a refreshing change to include such a story.

Darkie's Mob was starting to repeat itself but with this months episodes we break out of the mould slightly with the new recruit arc and the cliff hangers.

I was enjoying slaine so I was abit miffed that it's finished. What's the point of reprinting the middle bit of a story?  What happened next? Was it the roleplaying tie-in?

 
: Re: The Meg
: Trout 06 June, 2003, 07:08:48 PM
Yes, that was next. I suppose they could reprint the story related to Tomb of Terror, the roleplaying game, but I forget if they are.

I doubt it.

- Trout
: Re: The Meg
: Matt 06 June, 2003, 07:20:59 PM
Yeah, Tomb of Terror came next.
: Re: The Meg
: Bolt-01 07 June, 2003, 01:47:09 PM
RE: Slaine, tomb of terror.

I read that when it came out, and I cant remember it for the life of me. Bloomin Ada! Nope still cant think of it.

Mike Manley on Dredd: Manley has been around for a long time (IIRC) he used to work for knockabout? I like his stuff and think it is fine for the moment.

Text pieces: Shame you cant reprint Alan Moores Night Raven stories, they were aces. Haven't read the recent tales yet though.

Meg in general: I have only been reading for the latest incarnation and have no problems with it. It is nice of Alan to say hi though. Even if he did whet my appetite for the future.

Rotts
: Re: The Meg
: Art 07 June, 2003, 07:13:14 PM
The main thing I can remember is Slaine being able to fight Cthulhu like beasties that would drive other warriors insane because hes too thick to comprehend their true macrocosmic horror. I liked that.
: Re: The Meg
: The Monarch 07 June, 2003, 07:41:41 PM
One of the three old characters you mention may well make a reappearance - perhaps sooner than you think

hmm interesting kinda backs up my thoery that it's armitage showing up in that dredd in brit cit story mentioned recently
: Re: The Meg
: GermanAndy 07 June, 2003, 10:50:41 PM
I like the reprints. Unlike for many readers the stuff is new to me, it is interesting to actually read the old Slaine, but as the character does nothing for me I would never buy him in the GN format. On the other hand I would hate to see reprints from Vertigo as I have most of the stuff sitting on the shelves. I guess the first Hellboy is the third edition I now have.

Personally I liked the last format better, it had more of the magazine approach, but it?s not that important.

As for the tales, I thought them 50/50. I liked Family much more then Bendatti, which was a very tired concept to begin with. But it had some often complained story-telling problems. But at least it had some interesting ideas. Which I miss in other stuff. Siddha isn?t for me, I find it plain boring, Middenface also can?t capture my imagination on the whole, even if the last story was okay. Regardless I like the idea of mixing the old with the new, it keeps the Megazine fresh.

I also like the prose-stuff. Bishops history war marvelous, the Dredd storys range from good to mediocre, but I am the first to admit that this is a matter of taste.

On the whole I enjoy the Megazine.
: Re: The Meg
: paulvonscott 11 June, 2003, 04:30:55 PM
I'm a bit late to all of this, but I enjoyed Manley's Art on on the Megazine Dredd this week.

Nice to see some nice crisp line art.  Not overly stylised which was fun for the artist, but not for the reader.  I always think some nice crisp line art adds a certain quality to Judge Dredd and Mega City and when I read this it reminded me of Dredd from the 400's, in art and story.  The first page is exaclty what I epect from Judge Dredd and Mega City.

Strangely enough I think something like Burns or Ridgeways art works really well when Dredd is in the Cursed Earth.

I have a lot of problems with art on Judge Dredd myself, but this was perfectly decent stuff.  Much better than an artist more interested in his 're-invention' of Dredd rather than telling us a straight Dredd story, featuring a character we recognise.  

A problem which has plagued the strip for a long time.  But I suppose we have to blame the people who were able to produce a stylised Dredd and do it well, Bolland, McMahon, Carlos, Ewins, McCarthy for the people who have done it badly.

I appreciate this isn't a very trendy view.
: Re: The Meg
: Paul Cornell 15 June, 2003, 03:41:48 PM
Dear old Al said:

>You need the courage to publish a few off->beat 'love em or hate em' strips which you know >are going to divide your readership - Black >Siddha being an obvious example (I warn you now, >XTNCT's another).

Being the writer of XTNCT (hello, first posting, still getting the hang, what are all these knobs?) I hope more of you will like than dislike. Disraeli's art is lovely. It's not so much an anthology series, more six stories about the same characters.  It's a very heartfelt piece for me.  It may upset a lot of people, but I hope enough will speak up for it (in the online polls, etc.) to get me a second run with it!  
: Re: The Meg
: Leigh S 15 June, 2003, 05:31:32 PM
*first posting, still getting the hang, what are all these knobs?*


Don't worry about it, them's just us boarders...  :)
: Re: The Meg
: Bolt-01 15 June, 2003, 07:11:10 PM
Paul: Welcome aboard and good luck with XTINCT.

More blood for the masses.

Rotts
: Re: The Meg
: Paul Cornell 16 June, 2003, 01:40:43 AM
Thank you, Watcher and Rotts.  'Boarders', eh?  As opposed to day pupils, presumably.  
: Re: The Meg
: opaque 16 June, 2003, 02:33:20 AM
Longer is better :)
Nice to know that thats going to be the case.
I have nothing against non Dredd World characters in the Meg but I do prefer them. Things like Black Siddah are interesting, look good but I'd much rather have an Armitage or Shimura instead.
But on the other hand Family made no impact on me atall.
: Re: The Meg
: paulvonscott 16 June, 2003, 05:07:34 AM
The problem for me with other Dreddworld characters is that they aren't THAT great and to be honest most of them would be just as good not set in Dredd's world.  Most of them seem to be set in a different world anyway.  Can't think of any exceptions to be honest.
: Re: The Meg
: Tu-plang 16 June, 2003, 04:58:20 PM
"what are all these knobs?"

"What, these? Instruments.  You see, the TARDIS travels through time and space."

Is the possibly the nerdiest, fanboyish thing I could have said?
: Re: The Meg
: Tu-plang 16 June, 2003, 05:03:30 PM
"what are all these knobs?"

"what, these? Instruments - for controlling out flight."
: Re: The Meg
: Tu-plang 16 June, 2003, 05:06:37 PM
Going the basic route...

Arse Hole.
: Re: The Meg
: Nice Tom 20 June, 2003, 08:12:47 AM
Glad to see a return to longer chunks- 6-pagers are fine in 2000AD, but then you only have to wait a week for the next part. Anyway, here's my two cents on the current line-up:
DREDD- Like the story, don't like the art. It feels a bit too basic to me, not really exciting or original.
BLACK SIDDHA- Quite funny, and Simon Davis's artwork is fantastic as always. But I agree that Pat Mills has taken a long time to tell us very little (which was my gripe with the recent ABC Warriors)
DARKIE'S MOB- I'm not a fan of war stories, and this is frankly samey.
DEVLIN WAUGH- Does anyone else think this wasn't originally intended for the Dreddverse?
As for the character profiles, I'm all for them as someone who's relatively new to Twoth and the Meg and isn't massively familiar with a lot of characters. Actually, I'd prefer more detail.