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Title: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Colin YNWA on 06 May, 2020, 06:44:52 AM
Its not often, if ever that the call 'Its their writing for Tharg we asking about' will need to be called out quite so loud as  when one of these two appear. Today whose writing do you prefer for Tharg.

Si Spencer http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=SIS (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=SIS)

or

Steve McManus http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=thrills&Comic=2000AD&Field=Writer&choice=stevem (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=thrills&Comic=2000AD&Field=Writer&choice=stevem)

Whose 2000ad writing do you prefer? Voting - just add a comment here with whose work you prefer (and anything else you might wish to say to discuss their work) closes sometime Wednesday 13th May?

What the heck is all this about? https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=46406.0 (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=46406.0)

Next face off starts tomorrow...
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: broodblik on 06 May, 2020, 07:10:35 AM
Well I am not sure about any of the candidates so I will go with Steve McManus
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: abelardsnazz on 06 May, 2020, 08:09:20 AM
Si Spencer, as Creep and Harke & Burr both had their moments. Steve McManus did write or co-write a couple of decent one-offs, but also the Rogue Trooper Hit debacle, so Spencer's level of consistency clinches it for me.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 06 May, 2020, 10:05:42 AM
I think I have to agree with abelardsnazz - Si Spencer, for being just that much more consistent.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Bolt-01 on 06 May, 2020, 12:13:09 PM
Si Spencer.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Aaron A Aardvark on 06 May, 2020, 12:27:06 PM
Er... Spencer.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Greg M. on 06 May, 2020, 12:39:33 PM
I haven't read all of Mac-1's output, but he didn't do puns about undead hamsters, so I guess I vote MacManus.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: TordelBack on 06 May, 2020, 12:42:52 PM
Spencer for me too.

I have a great deal of nostalglc affection for M.A.C.H. Zero, it was something I read in the first tranche of backprogs I ever scored, long before I ever set eyes on M.A.C.H. 1 and its harried grotesque and obviously doomed protagonist seemed like an excitingly different Frankensteiny prospect to clean-cut government heroes. But The Hit and B.L.A.I.R. 1 undid all that goodwill. Great editor, really loved his TMO book, but as a 2000AD writer, not a lot to love...

Spencer on the other hand delivered some personal-nostalgic oddities in Plagues of Necropolis and Masque of the Judge, Death as well as the wonderfully creepy Creep.  Never a fan of Harke & Burr, but I think the former are strong, and unique, enough to edge out McManus.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Dandontdare on 06 May, 2020, 01:46:18 PM
I do like Creep and Plagues of Necrpolis, but Mach 0, Mach 1 and Shok! easily swing my vote for MacManus. I hadn't realised he also co-wrote VCs with The Notorious GFD, but let's not dwell on 3000ad
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Funt Solo on 06 May, 2020, 03:22:46 PM
I wonder if Steve McManus, as the Tharg of the era, is responsible for the T.M.O. / The Mighty One strips? Like Revenge of the Thrill-Suckers.

Any road: Creep was the negative side of Marmite for me. Shok! (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=thrillviewer&choice=shok) on the other hand, is not only a perfect little slice of 2000 AD, but was so good someone nabbed the idea and it got turned into a movie (https://youtu.be/NnPdHSbUd-g).

So, my vote goes for Steve McManus.

Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Richard on 06 May, 2020, 03:28:06 PM
MacManus, for MACH Zero.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: von Boom on 06 May, 2020, 03:40:49 PM
Steve McManus for me.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Proudhuff on 06 May, 2020, 05:04:48 PM
Si for me!
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Rogue Judge on 07 May, 2020, 12:23:48 AM
MacManus
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: AlexF on 07 May, 2020, 08:51:35 AM
A fascinating pair-up! I'm a fan of much of Mac-1's writing output, especially MACH Zero, and have been an anti-fan of quite a bit of Spencer's work - but I do admire the man's ideas.
Creep, Havn, the Returners all started really strong but just got stuck up their own arses by the end.
Harke and Burr I liked all the way through. I'll suggest that he's had a LOT of help from great artists, though.

Be that as it may, I'm inclined to vote for the man with the ideas, not the man who can write competent stories using other people's characters.

So yeah, Si Spencer for me.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Woolly on 11 May, 2020, 03:44:09 PM
MacManus without a shadow of a doubt.

Not gonna lie - I see these two as equal writers, but Steve MacManus has one of the best ASMR voices I've ever fallen asleep to, so Steve wins.

I fully appreciate that this makes my vote pointless.... ;)
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 May, 2020, 06:54:43 AM
Last chance on this vote. This one seems close so any votes at the wire could swing it either way. Get 'um in folks.
Title: Re: Qualifying 1: 3 - Si Spencer or Steve McManus - Ultimate not Wagner Tournament
Post by: Colin YNWA on 13 May, 2020, 06:52:24 AM
Wow well there's a pattern forming here. One writer get a clear lead, but then the other comes back strong. Round 3 was no exception and in this case the brilliant Si Spencer couldn't hold of a relentless charge by Steve McManus who goes through 8 to 7. So

Steve McManus

Next result up tomorrow.