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Title: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Zarjazzer on 21 April, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
Really good. Excellent cover by Mark Harrison. Dredd story The Ajudicators is one of the best -satirising capes (just in time for a certain superhero movie perhaps) yet also a fun read. Ezquerra triumphs again and Simon Spurrier's script sparkles. Samizdat Squad makes a welcome return with PJ Holden on art duties and it's a fine b&w/greytone opening to the new story. [spoiler]A crab/ train mecha at the end  -cool![/spoiler]

An article with Mark Millar ( for it is he) in which admits writing some of the worst 2000AD stories ever. However there's more on his latest works and why War Heroes ain't round for the moment.

Strange continues well but the ending seemed a bit abrupt.

A q&a with Bryan Hitch as well.

Even a certain Grant Goggans (of these 'ere boards) in the letters pages.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 April, 2012, 01:05:40 PM
OH FFS!
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 21 April, 2012, 01:08:19 PM
Anyone know what the floppy is this month?
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: James Stacey on 21 April, 2012, 01:09:32 PM
Harry Kipling.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 21 April, 2012, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: James Stacey on 21 April, 2012, 01:09:32 PM
Harry Kipling.

Cheers. Never read any Harry Kipling before so i may pick this months Meg up at some point.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: TordelBack on 21 April, 2012, 01:19:50 PM
Is it all of Kipling? (Surely there's too much for one floppy?). 'Cos if it was I might have to buy a hard copy.  I haven't kippled for ages. 
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Trout on 21 April, 2012, 01:24:05 PM
"I SMELL SPIN!"

Inspired writing from Si there, and not a duffer in the whole Meg this month. We have great ideas everywhere, typically-great art by Ezquerra, possibly the best work we've ever seen from PJ (IMO), a great cover, interviews worth reading (with a page layout and Q&A format that's easy on this sub-editor's eye) and a gripping and unpredictable story in Snapshot.

Strange and Darke is gorgeous, compelling and provocative, and came to a nice, er, climax. But my favourite moment in this Meg was a real WTF in Samizdat Squad.
We must keep Arthur Wyatt away from trains. The man is insane.

- Trout
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 April, 2012, 01:27:15 PM
Cut and paste from the loser in the Meg-thread-starting stakes:

A surprisingly enjoyable Meg this morning. A vibrantly silly cover from Mark Harrison bursts forth from the plastic envelope presaging the fun within.

Breaking with years of tradition I flipped straight to the last story as none of the other stories had the same claim on my interest as the climax of Strange and Darke. I've really enjoyed this series. The conscious decision Colin Macneil's made to go with a sort of bawdy seaside style gives it a really interesting dynamic, like Beryl Cook's Garden of Earthly Delights or something. It ended well, despite the promise of plot threads that Mr Smith will take years to even think about following up and there was a moment in the middle of the episode which, even though I'd seen it coming, made me snort and chuckle in my own home. Good stuff.

The prospect of another Simon Spurrier Dredd pastiching some Marvel superheroes wasn't filling me with anticipation but I really enjoyed it. It was light, frothy fun which reminded me how much I sometimes miss the silly side of Dredd. I don't want to presume too much as I realise there is probably more to their working relationship than I appreciate but I thought it was telling that the art on this story was credited solely to Carlos as, to my eye, it's comfortably the best looking Ezquerra work I've seen in an age.

Wasn't as keen on Snapshot this month as last but happy to give it the benefit of not being American Reaper for another couple of months. Samizdat Squad was the real weak link in an otherwise decent line-up. Not sure how next month's Meg will bear up with two resolutely mediocre Dreddworld strips in town.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: I, Cosh on 21 April, 2012, 01:40:39 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 21 April, 2012, 01:19:50 PM
Is it all of Kipling? (Surely there's too much for one floppy?). 'Cos if it was I might have to buy a hard copy.  I haven't kippled for ages.
No. Sadly, it omits the final story: Hitman and Hermoth (see Grant, it's obviously still a cornerstone of British culture.)
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: TordelBack on 21 April, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
Eh, might still be enough to sway me.  A collected edition and more to the point a CONTINUATION of Harry Kipling would be very high on my 2000AD wishlist.  One of the great lost stories.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Trout on 21 April, 2012, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: TordelBack on 21 April, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
Harry Kipling...  One of the great lost stories.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Proudhuff on 21 April, 2012, 04:23:51 PM
ach, we don't care about all that!! has that Weegee got a letter in or not?  ;)
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: pauljholden on 21 April, 2012, 05:23:58 PM
There's an unused page for Samizdat on my blog today, if you'd like to have a look... http://www.pauljholden.com/blog/2012/04/21/samizdat-squad/
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 21 April, 2012, 05:26:51 PM
Wondered if my letter has been published this month.
A Mr Zach Hawkins?
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Trout on 21 April, 2012, 06:51:21 PM
Letters from:

Ross Thrapnell, Merseyside; Grant Goggans, USA; Paul Harris, Kent; Michael Duffy, Blackpool; Antony Catton, Ripley; and Luke Williams, Llanelli.

No sign of Hawkmonger or Buttlickingman.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 22 April, 2012, 12:12:49 PM
Ah well, there's always next month.  :D
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Buttonman on 22 April, 2012, 12:25:50 PM
Quote from: Trout on 21 April, 2012, 06:51:21 PM
Letters from:

Ross Thrapnell, Merseyside; Grant Goggans, USA; Paul Harris, Kent; Michael Duffy, Blackpool; Antony Catton, Ripley; and Luke Williams, Llanelli.

No sign of Hawkmonger or Buttlickingman.

Oh well they might as well not deliver the thing now! F'kin English, Welsh and Yanks stealing our letters page and possibly our wimmen too!
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Buttonman on 22 April, 2012, 12:28:47 PM
Actually I didn't write in this 4-week! Sorry Dreddlines Tharg, will do so for this outing ,in my usual hard hitting manner as soon as the beloved journal of excitement appears.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Proudhuff on 23 April, 2012, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: pauljholden on 21 April, 2012, 05:23:58 PM
There's an unused page for Samizdat on my blog today, if you'd like to have a look... http://www.pauljholden.com/blog/2012/04/21/samizdat-squad/

Cheers
PJ !
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Buttonman on 24 April, 2012, 11:00:19 PM
I wasn't too hot on the Dredd - thought it a bit broad and certainly not in keeping with anything we've previously learned about Justice Department. Oh for the days when Dredd would have booted Camble in the nuts and got on with kicking ass.

Strange & Darke was the pick for me - can't beat a beastiality orgy I always say.

Not joining the Kipling love in either - always found it a bit hard work and I for one wouldn't have it back.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Proudhuff on 25 April, 2012, 12:59:42 PM
Quote from: Buttonman on 24 April, 2012, 11:00:19 PM
I wasn't too hot on the Dredd - . Oh for the days when Dredd would have booted Camble in the nuts and got on with kicking ass.

I think he protests too much!!

and has a bum obsession: 'kicking ass', Butt'man...
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 25 April, 2012, 11:05:20 PM
For the first time in aaaages, the meg wasnt just worth the groats, but the best comic ive read all month. And, further, Strange & Darke was the best comic strip ive read all month. Please can we have much, much more of this, Tharg, and very soon? The Dredd was hugely entertaining- in a way that- dont shoot me- the prog's extended grimfest hasnt been for a while (though i hope the three stooges' imminent appearance may liven things up) and had some lovely panels of dredd quaking with barely-held-together pissed-offness. This is my favourite kind of dredd- like that brilliant bit in cycle of the werewolf, where he hilariously admits he'd kill people for being a bit pathetic, all the time sweating like a bastard.
Anyway, the back-up strips were pretty good too- samizdat started off well, and snapshot (though still reminding me of when marvel uk and dc tried to reprint 'adult' comics for the home market, resulting in huuge panels, outsized lettering and a quick read) wasnt as bad as last time. (cont)
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: SmallBlueThing on 25 April, 2012, 11:13:25 PM
(cont) though it's still my least-favourite read of the month.

Excellent interviews this time as well, with millar coming over as almost human. But alec worley needs to let himself breathe, allow himself to accept he's done it, and that 'hes worth it'. Or he may expire.

Oh, and the film reviews were tops this month, with a sensible review of the hunger games (which i'll never see, haha) that addresses the squabble re battle royale. Id go as far as to say that andrew osmond deserves a wider platform for his critiques, based on what he did with that particular movie.

Didnt like the cover though- what is it with meg covers? I really cant remember the last time there was a really good one, and yet the prog gets them regularly. Maybe its that horrible, atrocious, ugly logo squatting at the top like a six year old's homework.

SBT
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: radiator on 25 April, 2012, 11:48:30 PM
I really liked the cover. Would never have figured it for a Mark Harrison.

Very enjoyable Dredd this month - verging on silly, but it was genuinely funny, and it's always a treat to have Carlos on art duties. Haven't read the rest yet, buy the meg is on good form at present. Anyone know what the reprint is next month?
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Taryn Tailz on 25 April, 2012, 11:53:52 PM
I'm sure it was mentioned on another thread that next months reprint will be "Tiger Sun, Dragon Moon" but im not 100% on that.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: radiator on 26 April, 2012, 12:03:42 AM
Ah yes, that's right.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 26 April, 2012, 06:40:45 PM
Cover: Silly. I like it. ***

Dredd: Even more silly. Great contrast to the doom an gloom of the prog's Dredd, they compliment each other very well.
I'm still loving "The Bugger"-"A Midget".  :lol:
Carlos is as joy as always, and a nice piss take on Black Widows little-to-no artillery in The Avengers.
****

Samizdat Squad: Liked this in my early day's with the Meg, still have a soft spot for it. PJ Holden hold's his own once again. But what are they reffering to with Baba Yaga? The myth of the movie?
***

Snapshot: Still not getting THAT into it. Consistent if nothing else.
** and a 1/2

Strange and Darke: MORE NOW!
**** and 3/4 Only marred by the scene of the vicer bein jizzed on. WTF?

Interview's: Saw the name Mark Miller. Didn't read it.

Movie review: The Hunger Games is a piece of shite. Why did it get ****?

Letters Page: The house of Tharg is tillting the vote's on American reaper so it is!!

Harry Kippling: Not yet read, will update tommorow.

Future shock: Just, wrong. * and a 1/2
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: WhitBloke on 26 April, 2012, 08:33:05 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 26 April, 2012, 06:40:45 PM
Samizdat Squad: Liked this in my early day's with the Meg, still have a soft spot for it. PJ Holden hold's his own once again. But what are they reffering to with Baba Yaga? The myth of the movie?

Isn't it just a reference to Baba Yaga's magic hut, which had giant chicken legs?  That must have been fun for parties.  Or was it Baba Yaga's magic chicken that had giant huts?  Probably the first one but thanks for the nudge in the direction of the movie.  Looks a little bit mental, so I think I shall have to track that down now.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: metcalfecarr on 27 April, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
I really enjoy the Meg most months, and this was no exception. 

Cover - I was sure this was Ben Oliver as I usually dont like Mark Harrison.  Thanks for making me reassess the situation Mark.

I've never really been a fan of Carlos, his style did nothing for me, but lately I am becoming really appreciative of his work.  Nice to see him doing something he rarely does with the superheroics of the lead strip. Some good ideas trying to do something a little more away from usual - have we seen a Justice dept PR division before?

Love Samizadt Squad but confused as to why Paul Marshall isn't drawing this one as artistically it's his strip in my eyes. I'm not complaining as I love PJs stuff, but it's very different to Marshall's.  I'd like to have seen him do his McMahon inking rather than the grey washes though. Some good ideas from Arthur,  I trust his writing as I've followed his small press stuff from the early 90s on so know he can match his ideas with everything else to make a balanced and fun tale.

Strange and Dark - Smith shoes why he's Britains greatest untapped natural resource, and Colin McNeill hits it out of the ball park with his more open style.  Completely bonkers, just makes me want more Devlin Waugh and more of Smith in general.

Snapshot - I'm loving this in a Jason Bateman 80s tv movie kind of way.  I'm not sure on Jock's computerised half tone thing he's been doing lately, but his art is as glorious as ever.

Read the interviews, at least Millar has the guts to admit his 2000ad was crap.  Not fussed on the Hitch puffpiece, which looked like it was straight from the Image PR office's fax machine.  i picked the book up as I enjoyed Ross' Turf, was ok but if this was version 3 or 4 then the others can't have been much cop as there isn't that much to it.

Kipling - didn't like it then, don't like it now. Not looking forward to next months floppy either.  I'd like to know the selection process for the floppies as I'd prefer to see some older stuff like we had with Death Planet/Angel rather than the mediocre modern stuff.  I would vote for Really and Truly, Slaughterbowl, Wolfie Smith and Mean Arena, Trash, Zippy Couriers, Armoured Gideon and Beyond Zero above stuff liek Snow/Tiger etc
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 27 April, 2012, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: metcalfecarr on 27 April, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
I'd like to know the selection process for the floppies as I'd prefer to see some older stuff like we had with Death Planet/Angel rather than the mediocre modern stuff.  I would vote for Really and Truly, Slaughterbowl, Wolfie Smith and Mean Arena, Trash, Zippy Couriers, Armoured Gideon and Beyond Zero...

Slaughterbowl, Mean Arena and Armoured Gideon Book I were all reprinted in the Extreme Editions five or six years ago, which reprinted most of the half-decent stuff from that era before morphing into the Meg floppies, so it's unlikely we'll see them again so relatively soon.

I'm amazed that anyone wants to see Trash or Zippy Couriers again, though...  :o
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Alien Goodness on 27 April, 2012, 02:18:21 PM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 26 April, 2012, 06:40:45 PM
Cover: Silly. I like it. ***

Dredd: Even more silly. Great contrast to the doom an gloom of the prog's Dredd, they compliment each other very well.
I agree - the humour in this story is a nice antidote to the gloom and doom of Day of Chaos. The camp PR judges made me smile such as the snide remarks they make about peoples' appearances and calling Dredd "The Human Chin". Do the so-called superheroes remind anyone here of 'Marshall Law'?
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Professor Bear on 27 April, 2012, 07:27:36 PM
This month's Dredd was a massive miss for me after a good run of solid non-Wagners, and I have a funny feeling the script was "pulled from a drawer because it was already paid for"™ to cash in on Avengers without getting any rewrites, as Dredd seems off in a way the character hasn't been in quite a while, though the Pythonesque dismemberment gag was appreciated, and Carlos is always a welcome sight.  Samizdat remains solid, but is still something I'd rather see in the prog than the Meg, even if that meant losing another fantasy travelogue strip like Flesh or the werewolf thing.  Strange and Dark should annoy me, but does not - this may not sound like much of a compliment, but it is, I assure you and I like the oddness of the disparate elements of a future-set Hammer horror movie in a seaside town even if I'm not sure how I feel about the lead characters just yet.  Snapshot feels like a serialised GN purpose-built as a movie pitch, but is still entertaining stuff.  Kipling I have never warmed to, and likely never shall given the cloying and unfunny main character, but I'll acknowledge that dismissing it on that basis alone is unfair to the craftsmanship on display by writer and artist both, so I'll say it's just not my cup of tea and leave it there.  Interviews were interesting, but I thought it unfortunate that the Millar one began by praising the writer for being responsible for all the good superhero movies lately, even though all the flicks based on his work have so far been rather terrible.  Also not sure if I'm interpreting the movie reviews article correctly, but it seems like the writer is saying - in reference to Hunger Games - that plagiarism is acceptable if the knock-off is more financially successful than the original.

A solid if unremarkable issue.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: BPP on 27 April, 2012, 08:16:20 PM
Ezquerra
Holden
Jock
MacNeil
(and a whole load of Boo Cook extra)

'Nuff Said.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: a chosen rider on 27 April, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
Now I've had a chance to sit down with the Meg too...

Cover - Erm,comes off kind of unfocused mess to me, I'm afraid.  Not sure the colouring is doing it any favours. C-

Dredd -  Hmm, can't say I'm keen on the story that goes with the cover, either.  Spurrier's Dredd voice feels off to me, the superhero parody is pretty tired, and the PR judge thing is a decent idea but not terribly convincing the way it's played.  Unless there's a twist that reveals Gamble knew about the superhero/rogue PR connection in advance, it makes little sense for him to turn up at an entirely random crime scene that's no bigger PR crisis than anything else we've seen Dredd tackle.  Still, pages of Ezquerra art are never wasted.  It was obvious before I even checked the credits that Carlos was working solo on this one; Hector's inking is great, but always seems a little clean and tidy to me compared to the man's own messier style.  Glad to see it back, so despite the meh story, this gets a B- from me.

Samizdat Squad - I missed all but the final instalment of the last series of this, so it's good to have a chance to give it a proper go.  This does a nice job of introducing the characters and their personalities, and I absolutely love the art.  Great final panel, and a very promising start.  A

Snapshot - Okay, this is getting more intriguing.  I like it much more now the plot's got underway and the pseudo-witty bickering has gone.  Plus, as is apparently the theme for this Meg, lovely art. A

Strange and Darke - I love everything about this.  Everything.  Really great stuff on every level. When are we getting more? A+

Harry Kipling - Really enjoyed this!  Yet more beautiful art, and highly entertaining too.  I would happily read more of this. A

Future Shock didn't make much impression one way or the other, but who cares?  Despite a mediocre Dredd script, an all round fantastic Meg! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Mikey on 02 May, 2012, 02:12:33 PM
That's a great cover! I always liked Harrison's painted work, but I'm very keen on the cleaner look he's used for recent stuff.

Dredd - I'm in two minds here. Ezquerra - lush, natch. Story...maybe it's because I only recently read Marshal Law, but it just didn't fully click with me as something to associate with MC1. I really wanted to like it, it tickled me in a few places but, and I don't normally worry too much over this type of thing when I enjoy the strip, but PR Judges? It just doesn't feel right somehow.

Samizdat Squad - absolutely loved the art I must say. Story is grand and I agree that it might suit 2000ad more, but I'm happy seeing it in the Meg and it's still building up as a series, so fine as far as it goes.

Snapshot - Good, but I've found the first episodes to be too short. Nicely set up so let's see how it pans out.

Strange & Darke - Good. Didn't like it as much as the creative team would suggest, but would happily take a more of these pair. How does he smoke without lips, btw?  ;)

Didn't enjoy the Kipling floppie much, despite the mighty Boo art. Didn't read the Millar interview, but read the Worley one and the reviews.

An alright Meg, Tharg.

M.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: mygrimmbrother on 02 May, 2012, 03:15:58 PM
Cover - could have sworn it was Ben Willsher. I was sure of it! Never seen Mark Harrison 'do' this style before. Thought it was pretty damn good.

Strange and Darke - Think it was Cosh earlier in the thread who likened MacNeil's art on S&D to the bawdy Beryl Cook. This, for me, was absolutely spot on, and it all became clear why I've been slowly going off this strip. Loved his Dredd in the prog this week though.

Snapshot - adore this, love everything about it. In fact, some of the things I hated about American Reaper (long page count, not much happening on a page) I'm loving in this case (seems to allow Jock more space, the strip has a nice pace and feel to it). A fantastic, immersive thriller drawn by one of the industry's true megastars - yes thank you, that'll do.

Samizdat - Like how PJ keeps pushing his style. Wonderful old-school thrills. Anyone know what the name means? Is it a pun or something and I'm just being very slow on the uptake?

Dredd - nah, I'll pass. Long for the days when Carlos stuck to glorious B&W, his colouring is ugly to my eyes.

Kipling - love it. Reads like a classic 2000AD strip - it's got the irreverance, the wildy imaginative setting and characters, the humour, the violence, and Boo Cook's art is absolutely luminous. In fact, despite some of these stories being several years old now, I'd say it's better than some of his recent Anderson output. Would happily see this back in the prog.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Mikey on 02 May, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: metcalfecarr on 27 April, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
I've never really been a fan of Carlos, his style did nothing for me, but lately I am becoming really appreciative of his work. 

HAVE YOU ONLY RECENTLY GREW EYES?!

Heh! I know where you're coming from actually; when I was a nipper I didn't like Ez-Q's style either but I came to realise the error of my ways before I was in double figures. Be you a more recent Squaxx?

M.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Aonghus on 02 May, 2012, 04:20:05 PM
Oh man this was fun ^___^

This was the first meg I've ever bought, and between the fab floppy (which was the main reason I bought it), a brilliant silly Dredd (Ezquerra love!), decent interviews, great cover, and cool-looking ongoing strips where I haven't a clue what's happening.

Loved the [spoiler]Baba Yaga Mode[/spoiler] in Samizdat though.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 03 May, 2012, 06:31:03 AM
You know, for a long time I've had a bit of irritation paying for the Megazine, wondering whether it was really worth the cost or whether it was just out of brand loyalty.

  But... the last few issues have been really good, and pretty much worth the asking price.  The Spurious lad's Dredd was good fun - think it could have been better as a one-parter though. 
Samizdat's ok, great art at least, and Snapshot's shaping up very nicely.

Strange and Darke was a lovely piece of work from all involved.  I watched The Wicker Tree the other day, and realised that S and D is much more similar to it than The Wicker Man. I can't help thinking that the concept of a [spoiler]nearby factory making all the local men sterile[/spoiler] has to be more than a coincidence.  That said:  I preferred Strange and Darke, and think it makes a far superior 'spiritual sequel' to the Wicker Man.  It's also reminiscent of Grant Morrison's one and only Hellblazer tale - which is fecking great by the way, as is John Smith's Constantine one-off.

Purgatory:  Although it contains one of the most disturbing scenes I've ever seen in comics ([spoiler]the rat one[/spoiler]), it's mindless, childish nonsense and makes not a flitter of sense.  I've said it many times, but how the spugging bejayzus would anyone [spoiler]survive immersion in molten metal[/spoiler]?  And why would Kaufman [spoiler]begin his efforts to become a prison guard by killing another prison guard[/spoiler]? And how the fook would they [spoiler]repair a limbless man by grafting on spare parts from a crippled woman[/spoiler]?  Fuck right off.

However... did anyone think that that Mark Millar interview showed a groundbreaking level of maturity and even a spot of remorse?  For me it was a very significant interview indeed - Millar for once actually acknowledging the help of his mentors, admitting the shitness of his early work and praising the importance of 2000ad!  I seem to remember him being hugely dismissive about it in the past - '2000ad? Oh, is that still going?' or words to that effect. So fair play to him.

Reprint Silo in the floppy, I say.  Unashamedly riffing on / ripping off some very famous movies, but it worked for me (possibly because I read it before seeing the movies in question).
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 03 May, 2012, 06:32:35 AM
Oops, just realised Purgatory was the last issue.  Ah well. Kipling was a bit of fun anyway
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: pauljholden on 03 May, 2012, 09:45:42 AM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 03 May, 2012, 06:31:03 AM

However... did anyone think that that Mark Millar interview showed a groundbreaking level of maturity and even a spot of remorse?  For me it was a very significant interview indeed - Millar for once actually acknowledging the help of his mentors, admitting the shitness of his early work and praising the importance of 2000ad!  I seem to remember him being hugely dismissive about it in the past - '2000ad? Oh, is that still going?' or words to that effect. So fair play to him.

I've always felt that there were two Mark Millars - the PT Barnum "I invented everything" internet persona (deliberately cultivated by Millar) to sell the books (controversy sells) and the perfectly reasonable, smart, pleasant guy - that I imagine he actually is. I suspect it's rare that you get the latter Millar caught in an interview, but it seems to me the Meg would be a good place to do that (as it doesn't cross over into his normal fan base)

-pj

(Also thanks for all the kind words on the art front everyone. Except you people who didn't like it. I hate you.)
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Spaceghost on 03 May, 2012, 10:22:04 AM
I really liked the cover. Big, bold, eyecatching. Just a shame the story that it's advertising is such a misfire.

I didn't like the Judge Dredd story much. Liked the art but the story just didn't work. It didn't feel like Dredd at all. I think I'm slightly allergic to Simon Spurrier's writing style. He always seems to be trying too hard. I always get the feeling he's too desperate to impress us all with his cleverness. The strained 'Mega-speak' of the TV presenter was annoying and dated too. If it wasn't for Ezquerra on art duties it would be a total write off.

Samizdat Squad is ok. Straight up action comics of no real consequence which isn't meant to be an insult. Liking the art PJ (please don't hate me!).

Snapshot is getting more interesting and looks to be deviating from the 'regular guy on the run' plot I had imagined it to be. Looking forward to the next episode.

I don't think I'm enjoying Strange and Darke as much as some of you. It's alright I suppose. Not a great deal has actually happened though really has it? And the main characters didn't particularly do anything either. Colin MacNeil gives good art though.

Haven't re-read Harry Kipling but, aside from the main character's forced speech mannerisms, I remember enjoying it when it was in the prog. I'll read it one night when I've cleared my 'to read' pile.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 03 May, 2012, 05:22:25 PM
Harry Kipling: So many un-resolved loss end's. Quite possibly on of my fave smaller storys in the Prog.
Give it a return Tharg. ****
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Syne on 04 May, 2012, 02:23:54 AM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 03 May, 2012, 06:31:03 AM

Purgatory:  Although it contains one of the most disturbing scenes I've ever seen in comics ([spoiler]the rat one[/spoiler]), it's mindless, childish nonsense and makes not a flitter of sense.  I've said it many times, but how the spugging bejayzus would anyone [spoiler]survive immersion in molten metal[/spoiler]?  And why would Kaufman [spoiler]begin his efforts to become a prison guard by killing another prison guard[/spoiler]? And how the fook would they [spoiler]repair a limbless man by grafting on spare parts from a crippled woman[/spoiler]?  Fuck right off.



What, you mean they actually bothered to reprint that trash? In a way I'm glad: it can now be hung before the eyes of shocked readers as a putrid testimony to 2000ad's lowest point.

Two other things that always bugged me about that strip:

1) The idea that Justice Dept would allow Titan to be run that way. It was meant to be a hellhole, sure, but they're no way they would have countenanced such a sadistic administration.

2) Almost none of the convicts were believable ex-judges. A hippy ex-judge? really? And how the hell could any of the inmates of the psycho ward - gibbering, deformed subhumans, the lot of 'em - ever have got through a single day at the academy??
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Syne on 04 May, 2012, 02:36:55 AM
Ok, my curiosity got the better of me and I bought this issue. Looks like I'm hooked now.

Dredd was good. It's hard to equal the Wagner/Grant style of humour without the strip toppling over into self-parody, but this guy does a pretty good job. Admittedly, he pushes it a bit with the Spin judges - again, I have to wonder how those guys would have survived long enough at the academy to be separated out for this division.

Samidatz - promising. I don't have high expectations, but it looks to be entertaining in a thud-bang-cool walking train kinda way.

Snapshot - fantastic. I'm buying the previous issue right now so I can catch the first episode.

Strange and Darke - doesn't seem like Smith at his best, but it's pretty good. Other writers could learn something here - you don't have to explain all the back story in every instalment. I had no previous knowledge of this story, so while I was puzzled as to why one of the lead had a animal skull for a head, I was still able to enjoy the episode and the mention of the 'dark mirror' at the very end keyed me in a possible explanation, no info-dumps required. Someone should point that out to the Grey Area writer. . .

The interview and film reviews were top-class. I agree that Millar comes out it very well. Not only does he recognise how bad his 2000ad stuff was, he shows impeccable taste by citing that Marshall Law panel, truly one of the greatest single frames of all time.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 04 May, 2012, 06:08:55 AM
Quote from: pauljholden on 03 May, 2012, 09:45:42 AM
I've always felt that there were two Mark Millars - the PT Barnum "I invented everything" internet persona (deliberately cultivated by Millar) to sell the books (controversy sells) and the perfectly reasonable, smart, pleasant guy - that I imagine he actually is.


Hedging your bets with Marvel, eh PJ?  ;)

Only joking, of course, I think you're dead right.  He comes across as an absolute gentleman in most interviews, and often it's hard to believe he's the type of man who would diss the people who were instrumental in getting him where he is, e.g. Grants Morrison and Alan.

It's something the former Grant dabbled in years ago but thankfully seems to have grown out of, which hasn't hurt his success one bit.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: The Prodigal on 11 May, 2012, 06:32:27 PM
Guys as someone who is considering breaking into the meg-does anyone know what is replacing Strange and Darke? It was the final instalment wasn't it?
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Hawkmumbler on 11 May, 2012, 09:02:07 PM
I seem to remember Hondo City Justice is coming back soon.
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: DrJomster on 12 May, 2012, 06:47:29 AM
Liked this Meg a lot. Good work, people!

Have to agree, the MM interview caught the eye all right with an appraisal of his own Tooth work almost designed as a mea culpa to 2000AD fans... All well and good. He'd better not be preparing the ground though for coming back... #justsayin'

One thing I think would have helped the cover a lot would have been to have the "Blob"'s stomach coloured yellow. Instead it's red which makes the characters on either side much harder to distinguish, well for my old eyeballs anyway!
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: pauljholden on 19 May, 2012, 04:04:21 PM
I've blogged a snippet of script, 9 pages of layouts and a couple of pages of art on Samizdat episode 1 - there are probably spoilers for episode 1 in there, but you've all read it by now, right?

http://www.pauljholden.com/blog/2012/05/19/samizdat-squad-2/
Title: Re: Meg 323 The Adjudicators.
Post by: Hoagy on 20 May, 2012, 12:25:55 PM
Yes. PJ, your art is the highlight of the Meg, this month. Looking forward to this next edition. Infact, all four stories made a perfect 10 on art.

Its as clear, PJ and as refreshing as a glass of water, to dehydrated man, in an Eastern European radland.