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Frank


To the best of my knowledge, Steve Spielberg didn't write one word or frame a single shot of Band of Brothers, Gremlins, or Young Sherlock Holmes, but you can't deny that his influence on them (in the role of producer) is palpable.


Ghost MacRoth

So when are we getting that like button?
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Sideshow Bob

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As far as I was aware after Vincent,  Tim Burton wrote an original ( 3 page ) poem which he had intended to be a TV special.......( I think he worked for Disney at the time ).....based on various Xmas goodies like Rudolph the Red nosed reindeer and the Grinch, etc.....
He then 'touted' it to various companies but it wasn't 'picked up' due to the 'strangeness' of the material...
After his success with Beetlejuice and Batman the studios' were then falling over themselves to make Nightmare which he then further developed, involving a co-writer...

So I'm afraid I disagree with you Sheldipez....He did 'slightly more' than add character designs and plaster his name all over it....In fact to be honest it was pretty much his 'vision' from the very start......

Unfortunately his recent efforts...Alice in Wonderland & Willie Wonka & Dark Shadows have been dire,  to say the least....
My opinion is that he should stick to his animated movies......and avoid anything that allows his wife to show up and get a role........
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Silent_Bomber

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Quote from: Charlie boy on 19 July, 2013, 10:53:35 PM
Here's a challenge just for you, Silent_Bomber. It's an easy challenge, so don't worry about it too much.
Pick a film. Pick any film you can think of. Now make a mental note of the plot.
You've got what- 4, 5 sentences in your head now?

By all means, Burton would have given them character designs and the plot.  But the person behind the screenplay is what fleshed that rough, small plot out.
Maybe with other films you would have more of an argument, but in the Nightmare Before Christmas, the plot is considerably better than the dialogue.

The songs (lyrics written by Danny Elfman) are also better than the screenplay IMO.

Quote from: sauchie on 19 July, 2013, 11:06:18 PM

To the best of my knowledge, Steve Spielberg didn't write one word or frame a single shot of Band of Brothers, Gremlins, or Young Sherlock Holmes, but you can't deny that his influence on them (in the role of producer) is palpable.
I've seen tons of Spielberg movies and I see absolutely nothing of him in Gremlins at all, I absolutely hate Spielberg as a filmmaker, he is a creator of saccharine, over-sentimental crap as far as I'm concerned. I like none of his movies. Gremlins on the other hand I thought was a lot of fun, very tongue in cheek.

Spielberg has always been the poor man's Alfred Hitchcock.

Frank

Quote from: Silent_Bomber on 19 July, 2013, 11:32:21 PM
I've seen tons of Spielberg movies and I see absolutely nothing of him in Gremlins at all




Frank

Quote from: Silent_Bomber on 19 July, 2013, 11:32:21 PM
I've seen tons of Spielberg movies and I see absolutely nothing of him in Gremlins at all

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WHY I HATE CHRISTMAS


Silent_Bomber

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I count all of that as pisstakes of Spielberg tbh.

Always thought of them as light-hearted jabs from Dante at his Producer.

Richmond Clements

QuoteI've seen tons of Spielberg movies
QuoteI absolutely hate Spielberg as a filmmaker,

Which rather begs an obvious question...

Silent_Bomber

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 19 July, 2013, 11:44:06 PM
QuoteI've seen tons of Spielberg movies
QuoteI absolutely hate Spielberg as a filmmaker,

Which rather begs an obvious question...

I have a book of 1000 best movies, I watch each film and then tick it.

Sideshow Bob

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Quote from: Silent_Bomber on 19 July, 2013, 11:32:21 PM
I absolutely hate Spielberg as a filmmaker, he is a creator of saccharine, over-sentimental crap as far as I'm concerned. I like none of his movies. Gremlins on the other hand I thought was a lot of fun, very tongue in cheek.

Spielberg has always been the poor man's Alfred Hitchcock.

Obviously that's your opinion but in his defence ...I'll just say  : Duel, Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Schindlers' List, Saving Private Ryan.......and you don't like ANY of these...??!!

And there are plenty more, but I can't be arsed to list them..............

Pfft !!
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Silent_Bomber

Back to the Future was made by Robert Zemekis (who I like a lot)

Yet another movie Spielberg steals the credit for.  :D

Frank

Quote from: Sideshow Bob on 19 July, 2013, 11:46:51 PM
Back to the Future

That'd be another example of when his influence as a producer is felt so keenly folk think he directed a film.


Ghost MacRoth

Quote from: Sideshow Bob on 19 July, 2013, 11:46:51 PM

Obviously that's your opinion but in his defence ...I'll just say  : Duel, Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Schindlers' List, Saving Private Ryan.......and you don't like ANY of these...??!!

And there are plenty more, but I can't be arsed to list them..............

Pfft !!
Cheers

Really, why do we have no mutha fuckin' like button???  It'd save so much typing!

And Bomber, one film you commented on, how about the others? Some quality movies mentioned there and you appear to have skated over 'em. ;)
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Silent_Bomber

Quote from: Ghost MacRoth on 19 July, 2013, 11:52:42 PMAnd Bob, one film you commented on, how about the others? Some quality movies mentioned there and you appear to have skated over 'em. ;)
Hate them all except the Indianna Jones movies which I like well enough, but in my head have decided they have more to do with George Lucas than Spielberg :lol:

Where the others are concerned, like I said, either Saccharine, over sentimental rubbish with bland everyman characters who "love their family", and are trying to always do the right, "christian" thing, white picket fences, stories by the fire etc etc.

Or

1/1 rip offs of Hitchcock movies.

I know its an unpopular opinion, but its how I feel about it.

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Also, unrelated, while I'm here the Shawshank Redemption is just the commercialised, pussy version of Midnight Express. Might as well put both my most criticised film opinions down while I'm at it :lol: