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: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: Bubba Zebill 11 November, 2014, 07:05:04 AM
With the success of GOT - HBO seem to be taking on SF now with Asimov's FOUNDATION series... http://io9.com/hbo-will-make-asimovs-foundation-with-interstellars-jon-1657018306?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: TordelBack 11 November, 2014, 10:14:43 AM
The basic structure would make for intriguing telly, and you could get around the issue of no ongoing characters (well, one) by having an Arrow-style flashback thread following Seldon's life, and maybe even R-Daneel.
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: von Boom 11 November, 2014, 11:55:31 AM
This will actually give me a reason to subscribe to HBO. I will be watching out for this eagerly. I just hope they stick to the story and not try to improvise with needless murders or violence and such.
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: Theblazeuk 11 November, 2014, 12:22:43 PM
If it's the GoT route they want then it'll need more than just violence. I don't recall Asimov being a particularly good sexy time writer.
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: Bubba Zebill 11 November, 2014, 12:44:45 PM
I've been hoping HBO would do a major treatment of classic SF. And it really is the only way to bring great works to the screen. Been saying as much for a Dredd series for ages.

This link might offer some more info...or not...http://www.slashfilm.com/foundation-tv-series/
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: Bubba Zebill 11 November, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
If it's the GoT route they want then it'll need more than just violence. I don't recall Asimov being a particularly good sexy time writer.

True.
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: Fungus 11 November, 2014, 01:08:46 PM
Finally read this in a fancy hardback (trilogy) a few weeks back, so interested in this. I imagine an I, Claudius feel, it's more talking-heads and affairs of state than anything else I can think of. Done properly, with some anachronisms expunged, could be a treat...
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: Bubba Zebill 11 November, 2014, 01:22:12 PM
Finally read this in a fancy hardback (trilogy) a few weeks back, so interested in this. I imagine an I, Claudius feel, it's more talking-heads and affairs of state than anything else I can think of. Done properly, with some anachronisms expunged, could be a treat...

I think that might be the way it goes. It's high time SF was treated more seriously in general. We now live in a world that has surpassed so much that was once SF and seemingly impossible.

Maybe this will be more House of Cards than Game of Thrones....or somewhere between.
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: Professor Bear 11 November, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
I'm sure it'll be fine even though it's sci-fi.  Battlestar Galactica was a show about sex robots and people took that seriously enough that the owners of the Stargate franchise derailed and destroyed their cash cow trying to emulate it, while a generation of kids have grown up thinking that superheroes - Wolverine in particular - are not ludicrous, inherently childish concepts for enabling juvenile power fantasies but deadly serious fictional endeavors that explore the politics of our age.
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: Fungus 11 November, 2014, 01:45:20 PM
Maybe this will be more House of Cards than Game of Thrones....or somewhere between.

Game of Cards?

I'm so very, very, sorry.
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: Bubba Zebill 11 November, 2014, 02:15:57 PM
Maybe this will be more House of Cards than Game of Thrones....or somewhere between.

Game of Cards?

I'm so very, very, sorry.
House of Cards. I like the series, particularly series 1. The mention of I, Claudius made me think of it. Strong links between the two...some say it's one and the same....not sure that's fare though. Not everyone's 'culpa' ...I suppose....
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: Fungus 11 November, 2014, 02:30:02 PM
Maybe this will be more House of Cards than Game of Thrones....or somewhere between.
Game of Cards?
I'm so very, very, sorry.
House of Cards.

Yup, got it. I'm going back to smileys after every joke  :)
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: Bubba Zebill 11 November, 2014, 03:42:32 PM
Maybe this will be more House of Cards than Game of Thrones....or somewhere between.
Game of Cards?
I'm so very, very, sorry.
House of Cards.

Yup, got it. I'm going back to smileys after every joke  :)

TBH I nearly wrote Game of Cards the first time and had to check if I'd done so after your comment!  :P
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: von Boom 11 November, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
If it's the GoT route they want then it'll need more than just violence. I don't recall Asimov being a particularly good sexy time writer.

Asimov never really dealt with sex at all. If HBO wanted sex, they should have gone with Heinlein. I don't think the world could handle Heinlein's brand of incestuous eroticism just yet though.
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: TordelBack 11 November, 2014, 05:33:54 PM
I don't recall Asimov being a particularly good sexy time writer.

This week on HBO's Foundation: R Daneel Olivaw reveals the 69th Law of Robotics, and learn how the Mule really got his name.
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: von Boom 11 November, 2014, 06:06:17 PM
I don't recall Asimov being a particularly good sexy time writer.

This week on HBO's Foundation: R Daneel Olivaw reveals the 69th Law of Robotics, and learn how the Mule really got his name.

:lol:
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: von Boom 15 February, 2021, 08:31:28 PM
Foundation is set to start airing this autumn.

https://www.techradar.com/news/apples-adaptation-of-asimovs-foundation-series-gets-a-launch-date (https://www.techradar.com/news/apples-adaptation-of-asimovs-foundation-series-gets-a-launch-date)
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: zombemybabynow 16 February, 2021, 04:21:05 PM
first book bought :thumbsup:

after watching the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgbPSA94Rqg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgbPSA94Rqg)

hope it's as good as the book i read again and again;  'The Hydrogen Sonata'
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: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) 16 February, 2021, 05:08:37 PM
I'm currently reading the Foundation series, and had no idea they were doing a tv version. Am up to Second Foundation- the third book- and am now scratching my head as to how they can translate this to the screen without a million nerd voices crying out that "it's just a Star Wars rip-off!". Because my god did Lucas "borrow" great swathes of this when creating his saga. And it's not just the central dramatic thrust of the jedi-like Foundation versus the Empire... there are even characters called Han, Bail and a search for 'Stars End', which should be familiar to SW fans- if only for the droid, Bollux.

The books are phenomenal though. The world building is sensational, and I've already got his (excuse me if this sounds familiar) belated prequels and sequels pencilled in for nanoseconds after finishing book three.

SBT
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: Richard 16 February, 2021, 08:35:47 PM
Once you've finished the original trilogy, read the sequels first, not only for the obvious reason but also because the prequels just aren't as good.
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: zombemybabynow 16 February, 2021, 09:03:58 PM
👍
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: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) 17 February, 2021, 07:23:02 AM
Once you've finished the original trilogy, read the sequels first, not only for the obvious reason but also because the prequels just aren't as good.

I'm planning on reading them in the order he wrote them. Which I believe is Edge, Earth, Prelude and Forward. The series reminds me of a board game I had as a kid, with artwork reminiscent of Flash Gordon spaceships. I was lucky enough to have the game, fall in love with the designs, and have been exposed to the Star Wars universe, at around the same time- so all are merged in my brain. Foundation is the perfect amalgam of it all and it's weird to have found something so... perfect... forty-one years later. I'm completely loving them.

SBT
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: broodblik 17 February, 2021, 07:35:13 AM
Foundation was a wonderful series. I am quite intrigued to see how it translate into a series and I am sure that in only concept they will keep with the books but nothing else.
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: pictsy 07 March, 2021, 06:01:16 PM
Once you've finished the original trilogy, read the sequels first, not only for the obvious reason but also because the prequels just aren't as good.

I'm planning on reading them in the order he wrote them. Which I believe is Edge, Earth, Prelude and Forward. The series reminds me of a board game I had as a kid, with artwork reminiscent of Flash Gordon spaceships. I was lucky enough to have the game, fall in love with the designs, and have been exposed to the Star Wars universe, at around the same time- so all are merged in my brain. Foundation is the perfect amalgam of it all and it's weird to have found something so... perfect... forty-one years later. I'm completely loving them.

SBT

This is how I've always recommend people read them.  It's gone down well with those who've taken me up on my recommendation.  The prequels aren't necessarily bad or worse, but they are different and take liberties.  Having re-read them last year I tend to think of them as their own thing.

As for the TV series, I'm gonna pass on this one.  I saw the trailer and it sounded alarm bells for me.  I will endeavour to finish reading the damn books again.  I got stuck on Second Foundation because I stopped reading at Christmas.  I did start with Caves of Steel, though and waded through a lot of books... I may have burnt out.
: Re: Asimov's FOUNDATION HBO
: Funt Solo 07 March, 2021, 06:03:19 PM
I burnt out on a Banks re-read and took a short break ... of six years. I'm back into it now.