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#5296
Off Topic / Re: Threadjacking!
11 February, 2013, 07:57:03 PM
The forum was crying out for a token baldie!  ;)
#5297
They're still available on Ebay...about two quid a pack!
#5298
General / Re: Forthcoming Thrills!
11 February, 2013, 02:50:56 PM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 11 February, 2013, 01:09:35 PM
Not much to go on BUT over at his blog Dave Taylor has given us the wonderful news that he's back on Dredd at some point (there's a panel as well).

http://d-taylor-comics-music-ford-mustangs.blogspot.co.uk/

He also eludes to working with Ian Edginton on something else or even somethings! Wohoo!

Some good news for a miserable Monday afternoon!
#5299
Prog / Re: Prog 1819: Dangerous Minds.
11 February, 2013, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: Supermarine Troutfire on 11 February, 2013, 11:51:54 AM
Quote from: radiator on 11 February, 2013, 11:39:29 AM
QuoteThe point of the "inaccurate historical records" device was to reintroduce Alpha with a sense that anything could happen. It's John's toybox again.

Which was all well and good - I really liked The Kreeler Connection because it felt like a genuinely fresh, grittier take on the character, almost a soft reboot of Strontium Dog, but the device was all but entirely dropped in later stories (At Andy Diggle's request IIRC) in favour of the pure nostalgia of stories like Roadhouse, which to me just felt a bit meandering.

Well, you may say it's been dropped, but I would say it was established well enough and doesn't need to be referred to again. Certainly, there's nothing to suggest that continuity is no longer fluid.

As a wider question for everyone, is there still bad feeling about the treatment of Feral?

Also, am I wrong in thinking we effectively have two types of Strontium Dog fans: those of us who liked the original Wagner/Grant stories best and felt a bit pained to read the Final Solution/Strontium Dogs/Tales of the Doghouse material; and those people who appreciate that later stuff more, perhaps because you read it when you were a bit younger?
I do feel sometimes that there are two generations of 2000AD fandom: the 80s kids who are now in their forties, and the kids who were a bit younger and joined in later. Is that patronising? I hope not.

Some interesting points there Trout.
Regarding your theory of 'two generations of 2000AD characters', I would say this very much has an impact on how certain characters & story-lines are perceived.

Speaking as a 35 year old reader (since Prog 400 ish) I would say that I sit quite snugly in between the generations (with regard to Strontium Dog).
I read and enjoyed the 'Classic' stories in the weekly, and caught up on the majority of the older stuff via the Best of 2000AD Monthly / Quality reprints.
That's not to say I didn't enjoy the later stuff too. I'm not going to claim that The Final Solution was the greatest story ever written, but it was of its time, and ended Johnny's story for better or worse.
I'm also not going to claim that 'Strontium Dogs' was the pinnacle of storytelling, but some of it was quite good (Ennis' The Darkest Star), and I also appreciated Peter Hogans attempts to tie the disparate strands of the SD universe together into an ongoing narrative. It had potential, and the art was generally first rate.
The Abnett / Harrison Durham Red saga also directly followed on from this, and ran as a popular Thrill for quite a few years. This too has been technically contradicted by the new storyline.

I personally think that the recent resurrection of Johnny was contrived and whimsical, no disrespect intended.
There were at least half a dozen other ways it could have been done if considered necessary, including the most obvious one IMO- using the time travel aspect of the strips mythos to 'resurrect' Johnny without alluding to or contradicting any previous stories or continuity.
As mentioned by others, the fact the new storyline seems to be simply re-treading 'The Final Solution' (in broad plot terms) only makes it all the more disappointing.

With regard to the treatment / killing off of Feral- to me it smacked a little bit of spite, and was completely unnecessary.

PS; having re-read this thread and my opening post on the topic, I'd like to retract the "shat all over" comment, which reads as quite harsh upon reflection.
Most forum users who have made my acquaintance would attest that I'm usually as mild mannered as Clark Kent on Valium.
#5300
Welcome to the board / Re: From Spain with love
10 February, 2013, 09:19:09 PM
Hola Basilisk, y bienvenido!

#5301
Quote from: TordelBack on 10 February, 2013, 05:18:26 PM
I never tire of saying this, but the extraordinarily erotic The Amazing Maze Dumoir.  To my young eyes it was a sort of comics version of Some Like it Hot crossed with Penthouse Forum.

And it was reprinted in the 1989 sci-if special, which has a bit of a risque cover- making my little cheeks blush twice (buying it from the female newsagent, and my Gran asking me what I was reading in a slightly concerned tone) :)
#5302
Prog / Re: Prog 1819: Dangerous Minds.
10 February, 2013, 01:50:32 PM
Ah come on Trout, there's no personal attacks in that post- I love Wagner & Ezquerra's stuff about 99.9% of the time, with a slim margin of error.

I'll re-summarise my position- I personally liked 'The Final Solution' & Stontium Dogs more than any of the three 'Life & Death of Johnny Alpha' books.

Time will tell if there is more to the 'resurrection' story than is currently apparent, but from what I've read so far, I can't see that happening.
Everyones entitled to an opinion, and if other readers are enjoying this storyline, then Grud bless 'em.
#5303
Prog / Re: Prog 1819: Dangerous Minds.
10 February, 2013, 01:22:55 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 10 February, 2013, 12:53:31 PM
it'd be a bit odd if Wagner just killed him off again.

Quite frankly, it'd be disgraceful.
This storyline has shat all over a lot of other work (by Grant, Ennis, Hogan and Abnett- all well written stories IMO) and the established continuity since 1990.
I wouldn't mind so much if this new series was mind-boggling good, but I can honestly say its not. Its tepid and mediocre at best. And I'd feel the same way if it was 1986.

I'm not having a go at Wagner (or Ezquerra), both of whom have provided some of the finest reading experiences in my life (and continue to Thrill, particularly with Dredd) but I genuinely get the impression that this series was commissioned to allow its creators have their final say with its main character- not due to the undeniable desire to tell one last great Johnny Alpha story.

For me, Johnny died in Prog 686.
And Tharg's integrity diminished ever so slightly in Prog 1689.
#5304
Help! / Re: Where to nuy dvds?
10 February, 2013, 12:41:18 PM
Could be worse Klute...I've to pay the exchange rate banking charge and Amazon don't deliver for free outside the UK.
As for actual shops: Dublin still has Tower Records for the less mainstream titles, but they're robbin b@stards, so I may as well succumb to the unbendible will of my Amazonian overlord.
#5305
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 10 February, 2013, 11:52:34 AM
QuoteAnd just how old was Purity Brown when she started bonking a demonic human-murderer with a horses head?

That was one of the things that went over my head.  For a long time I thought they were just good friends.  Who did Terrry eat, by the way?  Don't remember that bit. 
There was also Zenith more-or-less [spoiler]shagging his ma[/spoiler] in Phase 2.

If memory serves, Terri started chomping on the bodies of some of the bad-guys that were perusing the Warriors in the time tunnels. She was taught to do it as an efficient means of recycling.
Classic Toothy moment where Hammerstein is disgusted by it, and Blackblood nonchalantly declares that "they're a valuable source of protein".

And yeah, Zenith shagged his ma and a young Ruby Fox in the kinda ménage a trois that you just don't expect to be exposed to at the age of 12.
#5306
My older cousin told me what that FOAD graffiti meant...I was completely oblivious!
I was always shocked by Terri's casual cannibalism in that story too.

And just how old was Purity Brown when she started bonking a demonic human-murderer with a horses head?
#5307
Quote from: paddykafka on 09 February, 2013, 04:43:26 PM

"Rouge" Trooper?

Interesting is not the word. And I imagine he would have a fairly exotic fanbase, lol !

I dunno...having Jessica Chastain & Jennifer Lawrence portraying a sexually ambiguous Venus & Rafe I may be persuaded to part with a few Groats...
#5308
Off Topic / Re: Threadjacking!
09 February, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
Anyone else afraid to EVER post in 'The Political Thread'...? :-\
#5309
Quote from: sauchie on 09 February, 2013, 02:41:47 PM
It might be a good idea to hire private security to keep him away from Greggs too, by the look of this.

Drokk you for making me watch that wretched f*cking clip Sauchie!  :lol:
#5310
Off Topic / Re: Threadjacking!
09 February, 2013, 03:21:57 PM
Would you believe that I've seen some petrol stations in Dublin selling Tim Hortons goodies?
Probably not the same as the Canuck stuff though...