Mark Millar's CLINT

[Daveycandlish]

Well I'll buy it, but he's talking bollocks. As already mentioned, what about 2000ad and the Meg? Their readership are his target audience.

[Jim_Campbell]

Their readership are his target audience.

What, all twelve of us? I don't think so.

I might as well bring this over from the other thread:

If this thing is going to succeed, it's not going to be through targeting the existing minuscule UK comics market, it's going to come through using names like Frankie Boyle and products like Hollywood movies to shoehorn the new title into the mainstream consciousness. The existing 2000AD readership will either come along, or we won't, but there's nothing to be gained by courting us -- we already buy comics. This thing will succeed by selling to people who don't buy comics and have likely never even heard of 2000AD beyond a possible vague awareness of a shit Stallone film.

Cheers!

Jim

[GordonR]

What, all twelve of us? I don't think so.

My thoughts exactly.

2000AD is now essentially a niche publication.  Millar's project seems to be aimed squarely at a far more mainstream audience, one that has now eluded 2000AD for years. 

If it's out there, I think CLiNT has a better chance of finding it than 2000AD's ill-judged attempts of yesteryear, such as the "girls just don't get it" Loaded thing.

[Emperor]

Some more thoughts from Rich Johnston:

www.bleedingcool.com/2010/05/04/thinking-about-mark-millars-clint-magazine/

[Jim_Campbell]

Some more thoughts from Rich Johnston:

Wow. Viz still at 80,000 an issue? My business plan broke even at under 15,000 an issue. 50-75,000 copies and we'd have been minted. Obviously, I wasn't anticipating paying the likes of Jonathan Ross but, even so, that suggests there's more mileage in the shelf space between FHM and Viz than I'd have given credit.

Cheers!

Jim

[Emperor]

Clint mag @ Twitter:
http://twitter.com/clintmag

Wow. Viz still at 80,000 an issue?

Yep the ABC mag results are a good guide on such things.

http://www.abc.org.uk/Data/ProductPage.aspx?tid=1363

Although at their height they were selling a million copies, so that is quite a drop

What always surprises me is that The Dandy sells 18k:
http://www.abc.org.uk/Data/ProductPage.aspx?tid=20167

While the Beano sells 52k:
http://www.abc.org.uk/Data/ProductPage.aspx?tid=20166

Toxic is on 46k:
http://www.abc.org.uk/Data/ProductPage.aspx?tid=12267

That should give you an idea of the range

[maryanddavid]

IMO this is great news from an unlikley source.
Fair play to him for giving it a go, not many other creators that have made it big in the States have given somthing back to the British comics industry(not that they have to) which makes it more admirable.

I presume he is going for the Loaded/MensFitness/Uncut end of the market rather than Nuts etc. If it is anyway of a triumph, it can only be of help to 2000ad and the Meg which may be able to ride in its coatails. Even if it isint it will bring media attention, even if it is people pointing out on blogs that Clint isint the only comics on the newsstand.

Seem strange to see Millar in a reasonably good light, didnt like most of his 2kad work(liked Silo, Cannon Fodder was OK), and the only thing that I read of his american work was the run on Swamp Thing.
One issue still stands out as one of the best comics I have read, drawn by Chris Weston, about if the NAZIs won WW2. Cant remember the issue number, but worth looking out for.

David

[Colin YNWA]

Damn I need to get with the times. I posted on the older thread - ho hum sure you've not missed much!

In summary good news all round if it gets more people reading comics hopefully can only benefit 2000ad.

Silly title mind...

[Colin YNWA]

Normal double post apologise but in the other thread I mentioned

Was there an episode of Nathan Barley where Sugar Ape magazine was written sugaRAPE or am I imagining that? Anyway slighty silly titles aside this is great news.

and trust good old Rich Johnson to be way ahead of me and over at Bleeding Cool posting this



I soemthime think Mark Millar really might live in the land of Nathan Barley!

[LARF]

Can't stand Frankie Boyle. He stoops to the lowest common denominator when trying to get a laugh, put me off reading this already...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8611275.stm

[Jim_Campbell]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8611275.stm

Translation: "I've always been happy for Frankie Boyle to take the piss out of issues that were sensitive to other people, but I draw the line at issues that are sensitive to me."

Sorry, but what a fucking hypocrite.

Jim

[Peter Wolf]

Can't stand Frankie Boyle. He stoops to the lowest common denominator when trying to get a laugh, put me off reading this already...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8611275.stm

Not my cup of tea either i have to say.

Its too crass and too obviously trying to be provocative nad its always at someone elses expense.

I dont like humor or anything else which is self consciously going out of its way to shock and be provocative for its own sake particularly.

[Richmond Clements]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8611275.stm

Translation: "I've always been happy for Frankie Boyle to take the piss out of issues that were sensitive to other people, but I draw the line at issues that are sensitive to me."

Sorry, but what a fucking hypocrite.

Jim

There is that. Plus, we are not told the context of Boyle's remarks.

[BPP]

The only upside is that perhaps amongst the Boyles and Rosses there will be work for a few british artists / writers / colourists etc.

[Jim_Campbell]

The only upside is that perhaps amongst the Boyles and Rosses there will be work for a few british artists / writers / colourists etc.

Balls.

A new British title launched into the mass market with all the noise that will accrue can only be a good thing for British comics, which are otherwise pretty much dead in the water.

Cheers

Jim