LoEG: Century 2009

[Richmond Clements]

Because it does seem to become an increasingly prominent theme in his work?

This is my problem with it, too. It happens so often in his books it's getting tedious.

[Dandontdare]

My Amazon pre-order arrived today (good job - I have a habit of forgetting I've pre-ordered something and buying it from a shop).

I enjoyed this one much more than the last two, but I'm not sure if it's because it's any better, or because I've just accepted it for what it is. In-yer-face references on every page can be annoying when you don't get them, but highly satisfying when you do. The characterisation and the story worked far better than 1969 too.

One or two sly 2000ad references too, and a few others that made me laugh out loud.

[Mudcrab]

All this 'Allan Moore's dirty old man routine' is just ridiculous to me. Or did everyone forget Pollyanna getting raped in the first series, or Griffen getting sodomized by Hyde in the second? Sexual assault has been a regular recurring theme in LOEG since the beginning. Nothing has changed.

Don't think the word sodomized quite covers that scene, that was well rough! Aside from that didn't realise this was out, to Amazon!

[TordelBack]

I'll grant Corinthian Neonomicon certainly (although I thought it was a good book myself), but Lost Girls and LoEG are " ...all about sexual violence"?  Have you actually read Lost Girls?  Is rape really what LoEG is about? 

The use of/threat of rape in comics is one of my pet hates, even going so far as to leave me on the fence about Robbie Morrison as a writer, despite the pure genius that is Dante, but I just don't see the way Moore uses it as being titillating or exploitative - it's present as one amongst a wealth of other horrors, rounded characters and a more general exploration of consensual sex and pornography. 

[JOE SOAP]

I found the point of Lost Girls quite powerful and something I'd never seen expressed anywhere: how the idea of sex, not sex itself, can change us.

[Leigh S]

I'll grant Corinthian Neonomicon certainly (although I thought it was a good book myself), but Lost Girls and LoEG are " ...all about sexual violence"?  Have you actually read Lost Girls?  Is rape really what LoEG is about? 

The use of/threat of rape in comics is one of my pet hates, even going so far as to leave me on the fence about Robbie Morrison as a writer, despite the pure genius that is Dante, but I just don't see the way Moore uses it as being titillating or exploitative - it's present as one amongst a wealth of other horrors, rounded characters and a more general exploration of consensual sex and pornography.

Pretty much the same thing sprung to mind re Robbie Morrison and Dante (and his other stuff I think), where it is such an oft repeated  almost throwaway threat that it kind of soured me against Dante and a lot of Robbies stuff slightly, whereas its never seemed as trivially or inappropriately used to me i anything of Moore's Ive read.  Best not to mention Pat Mills at this point?

[O Lucky Stevie!]

One or two sly 2000ad references too, and a few others that made me laugh out loud.

Now that you've been lucky enough to clock it in the flesh does the cover still resemble a prog held at arm's length?

[Frank]

I found the point of Lost Girls quite powerful and something I'd never seen expressed anywhere: how the idea of sex, not sex itself, can change us.

Sold.

[The Corinthian]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

If Alan Moore writes comics for adults then they should be able to stand up to adult scrutiny, and that means not dismissing what seem to me to be a reasonable observation about his work. I don't object to Moore featuring rape in his stories, nor do I think that it's supposed to be particularly titillating (even in Lost Girls - which is explicitly porn - it's only wheeled on for the "and now the dreadful warnings" final act), but in LOEG it seems to have turned into an all-purpose symbol for everything. I'm not impuning Moore's motives, but it's there in his work and it is worth commenting on.

[Roger Godpleton]

I like the fact that amongst the Sopranos and 30 Rock references there appears to be a Heroes reference. Was Al entranced by the beauty of Tim Kring's vision all those years ago, like we all were? Did he think Milo Ventimiglia would become the actor of our time, as it seemed he must?

If I wanted to be yelled at by Boomers about the dying of the light, there are other places I could have gone, such as everywhere. No amount of Dick-Pendants and YAoclasim can ever be as objectionable as the spectacle of a strawman semi-literate millennial being paraded as All That Is Not Well. "It's not just the poverty. People were desperately poor in 1910, but at least things had a purpose." Fuck. You.

It's an OK book.

[JOE SOAP]

If I wanted to be yelled at by Boomers about the dying of the light, there are other places I could have gone, such as everywhere. No amount of Dick-Pendants and YAoclasim can ever be as objectionable as the spectacle of a strawman semi-literate millennial being paraded as All That Is Not Well. "It's not just the poverty. People were desperately poor in 1910, but at least things had a purpose." Fuck. You.

That's NO way to speak about Kevin O'Neill. Take it back young man.

[Roger Godpleton]

FUCK BOOMERS

[Frank]

FUCK BOOMERS

This Boomer, rather than this Boomer; if you're giving me the choice.

[JOE SOAP]

I thought you'd be more up for this Boomer.

[Roger Godpleton]

FUCK BATTLESTAR GALACTICA.