Day of Chaos 2: a.Covid-19 thread.

[Jim_Campbell]

The final paragraph implies worse.

This was the cause for much disbelief among myself and friends at the last pub meet-up we figured we were going to have for quite some time a few of weeks back.

The government was still actively peddling this line at the time, and you don't have to be a fucking epidemiologist to be able to multiply the UK population by a selection of predicted contagion rates and then by a pretty modest estimate of mortality rate.

Leaving aside the simple fact that 60-80% of the population infected doesn't get you to herd immunity, 60% at 0.7% mortality gives you more than 268,000 dead. You slide either of those numbers up significantly — like, say, to the 90%+ of the population with antibodies that you actually need for herd immunity, and you end up with a number in the region of the entire population of Liverpool or Bristol.

And that's before you attempt to factor in the simple truth that infections at that scale would be untreatable and people would just be left to die in emergency hospitals.

There's that Dominic Cummings 'genius' in action.

[Professor Bear]

When this is over, let us not forget who brought it upon us.

The UK media has already forgotten that Johnson's plan was to let hundreds of thousands die in order to preserve the economy, and there's currently a viral video of Trump going off on a journalist for not asking "the right questions".  The media won't help us, they'll actively work against us, and it's been made clear by the myopic politics of British centrists over the last few years that we'll never be allowed to have a viable opposition, no matter what Tory-lite scam artist ends up being crowned leader and lauded as "the savior of Labour" by people who never vote Labour and never will.
We are on our own and we're fucked.

When most of us emerge on the other side of this, there might be an expectation that the NHS, staffed by people who currently won't see their homes for weeks or months - and some of those will never see their homes again - might be appreciated for its efforts, but I'll bet you actual money that what we'll see instead is capitalisation on this disaster to replace the NHS with a private model by hook or by crook.
If I was a Tory, I'd be subtle and say we need to draft in more private contractors to replace exhausted NHS staff and create jobs for those left unemployed by the lockdown, but bereft of a media to hold them to account, they'll probably just put American healthcare companies in charge of hospitals right off the bat (Richard Branson's notoriously shitty and litigious Virgin Healthcare is going to make out like a bandit) even as US hospitals struggle with their own disastrous workload.  This is going to be a huge payday for the usual parasites.

[JOE SOAP]

I'll bet you actual money that what we'll see instead is capitalisation on this disaster to replace the NHS with a private model by hook or by crook.

QFT (in advance)

[TordelBack]

I'll bet you actual money that what we'll see instead is capitalisation on this disaster to replace the NHS with a private model by hook or by crook.

QFT (in advance?

I don't think it'd even be worth asking Paddy Power for the odds on that one.

Watched about 40 cyclists crowded around outdoor cafe tables and benches in a village today as we wished my MiL a happy Mother's Day across her garden wall, from the safe distance of the kerb. Then watched her 95 year neighbour slowly navigate a way through the press of  lycra.

[Jim_Campbell]

I'll bet you actual money

Actual money is no good any more. Got any toilet paper?

[Leigh S]

And thats all before the collateral deaths from people ill with other serious conditions not able to access support...

[Professor Bear]

Apologies if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus map which is updated every second and is tracking both infection rates and fatalities globally, so you can be terrified in real time via a fun interactive map.

[Old Tankie]

We live in an extra care housing scheme, half of us are doing our best not to die and are completely self-isolating, while the other half haven't got a clue what's going on! Groups of family members turning up to give their mothers bunches of flowers! Strange times.

[IAMTHESYSTEM]

That sounds rough Tankie, keep the faith and all that. Less crowded in the morning at the Supermarket, not so long a queue, but I feel that's because the initial shock is fading and having stocked up enough, people feel safer. I'm afraid my Bosses E-Mailed to say two of my morning jobs are on hold for the moment. The country's and the world is going through a lean period, and I'm too small an operator to dodge that flak. Billionaire Richard Branson, however, gave two months unpaid leave to his cabin crew, while working on his tan on some Caribbean Island somewhere.

[IndigoPrime]

I'm glad to hear people in various spots saying things are improving at supermarkets. I hope that makes it around here. 100m queues reported at a local massive Tesco earlier this morning. Although someone had success at the nearby Aldi, which was surprisingly stocked. They even managed to get some eggs. Entertainingly, our local Co-op is now keeping eggs "behind the counter", like some kind of oddball food porn.

[Rately]

I can't even find the words to describe the rage in me at the Politicians who rather than act decisively, are spinning. When those plates come down, I hope you are never able to show your faces in public again, and that that is the east of your punishment.

Disgusting.

[von Boom]

I'm glad to hear people in various spots saying things are improving at supermarkets. I hope that makes it around here. 100m queues reported at a local massive Tesco earlier this morning. Although someone had success at the nearby Aldi, which was surprisingly stocked. They even managed to get some eggs. Entertainingly, our local Co-op is now keeping eggs "behind the counter", like some kind of oddball food porn.

Hopefully the twats that have been panic buying are stocked up and will let the rest of us have a shot at some much needed supplies.

[sintec]

Entertainingly, our local Co-op is now keeping eggs "behind the counter", like some kind of oddball food porn.

Our local Spar used to do this with bacon, presumably because it was commonly stolen, always amused me though

[Recrewt]

I'm glad to hear people in various spots saying things are improving at supermarkets. I hope that makes it around here. 100m queues reported at a local massive Tesco earlier this morning. Although someone had success at the nearby Aldi, which was surprisingly stocked. They even managed to get some eggs. Entertainingly, our local Co-op is now keeping eggs "behind the counter", like some kind of oddball food porn.

I'm working from home now but before that I had to travel about 20 miles from where I live and the difference in locations is quite stark.  I live in a county town which is over supplied with supermarkets so the supply here is better.  Where I work, there are fewer shops and they have been stripped bare.

Last Friday morning near work, I have never seen the shops so busy.

[Cyberleader2000]

just found out a friends mom is in hospital and has now been confirmed as having the dam virus.
whats worses is hes been working nightshifts with another friend of mine last week and I was hanging out with said other friend all of last week so now im more worried about this couf I have.