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Author Topic: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock  (Read 1379 times)

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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #30 on: 06 September, 2022, 04:12:30 PM »
Ah - so Dante is leading by five votes.

Check no one has rhymed their way to a second vote... I'm taking names... I count these things at 6ish in the morning I can't be expected to work well at that time!

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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #31 on: 06 September, 2022, 04:29:09 PM »
Bravo!
However if you get a second poety-themed vote from someone with the forum username of, say, Harrington Hoots, I fully expect you to let that pass, Colin.
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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #32 on: 06 September, 2022, 04:32:28 PM »
Oh, if we're doing this poetically:

Here Squaxx votes are cast
Is Nemesis the greatest thrill?
No: Dante, the victor

You made some spelling mistakes there...

Here Squaxx votes are cast
Is Nikolai the greatest thrill?
No, danke, the Warlock

WHOOOOOOWWWW there

Just 'cos you do it in rhyme
does mean you vote two time
seeing that in bold name
made me forget you'd done the same
earlier in this very thread
If I catch anyone else you'll be dead!


Eep!  To be fair (to myself) I voted for "Nemesis" the first time, and emboldened by rhyme highlighted "the Warlock" the second time - so I only put Nemesis the Warlock in bold once, just in two sections.


Yes, that's my excuse.

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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #33 on: 06 September, 2022, 04:49:07 PM »
Eep!  To be fair (to myself) I voted for "Nemesis" the first time, and emboldened by rhyme highlighted "the Warlock" the second time - so I only put Nemesis the Warlock in bold once, just in two sections.

If I wasn't a Dante booster that's so good I'd have let it pass and given you the two!

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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #34 on: 06 September, 2022, 05:03:46 PM »
Mainly for the reasons given by Alex and Magnetica
I'm voting for The Warlock (also, Dante had Amerika)

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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #35 on: 06 September, 2022, 05:11:34 PM »
Ok my second vote then goes for Nikolai
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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #36 on: 06 September, 2022, 07:18:01 PM »
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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #37 on: 06 September, 2022, 09:20:00 PM »
Two epic battles. Dante vs Valdamir Makarov  or Nemesis vs Torquemada.

There's no doubting that Torquemada is the better villan, there are few greater, but as a hero I feel Dante has the edge over Nemesis. Nemesis gets muddled as he progresses he gets tied up in Millsverse continuity and goes out with more of a whimper than a bang. Dante has a weaker start and takes some detours over his arc but he sticks the landing. Overall I think I'm with Dante by a whisker.

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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #38 on: 07 September, 2022, 01:23:38 AM »
This thread also made me realise that Nemesis has something in common with Winnie the Pooh.

They both have the same middle name.
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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #39 on: 07 September, 2022, 09:06:09 AM »
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Niko-lai, Niko-lai, Niko-lai more!
Niko-lai, Niko-lai, Niko-lai more!
Niko-lai, Niko-lai, Niko-lai MORE!
And Niko-lai's company!
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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #40 on: 07 September, 2022, 09:44:28 AM »
You’d be get Dante the pharmacist, then.

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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #41 on: 07 September, 2022, 10:07:38 AM »
Nemesis, for the same reasons given by others. Whilst Dante was consistently good, and never reached the lows of Nemesis at its worst, it never reached the heights of Nemesis at its best, either. Surely even the most generous admirer would be hard pressed to say that nothing like Dante had ever appeared in comics before, as has often been said of Nemesis.
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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #42 on: 07 September, 2022, 10:21:12 AM »
to the best of my knowledge, nothing like dante has appeared in comics before, before or since in fact.
nemesis, for all its punk rock power, was a continuation of themes and characters and slogans and preoccupations that the millsverse had already been working with and shaping.

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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #43 on: 07 September, 2022, 11:22:00 AM »
Whilst Dante was consistently good, and never reached the lows of Nemesis at its worst, it never reached the heights of Nemesis at its best, either.

That's a nice way to put it. Nobody is going to argue that Dante wasn't the more consistent; in fact it may be the objectively 'better' thrill. Dante is less dated. Dante has remarkably few dull bits. Dante is the thrill I'm more likely to re-read tomorrow. Dante is the one I would give to a non-scrot to get them reading. Dante is the one I'd recommend, nine times out of ten. And yet...

...and yet. When Nemesis hits - when it's good, when Pat isn't pushing the latest agenda but just trying to tell the best story he can, when he and the artist (usually but not always O'Neill) are pushing each other to ever greater heights of lunacy and creativity - it sings. It's like pure bottled lightning. This is the strip, lest we forget, so incredibly blessed with ideas that it that created Warhammer 40,000 by accident. Credo!
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Re: FFT - Semi Final 1 - Nikolai Dante vs Nemesis the Warlock
« Reply #44 on: 07 September, 2022, 11:40:53 AM »
tolstoy, bulgakov and tarkovsky created dante by accident.