The Political Thread

[JayzusB.Christ]

Sorry, all Scotches look the same to me, bear

[Definitely Not Mister Pops]

Sooooo.....

Bonfires in Northern Ireland.

Don't build houses beside them...

[ZenArcade]

Territorial pissings. Z

[Jim_Campbell]

Government proposes enquiry to explore the possibility of an end to a free NHS.

I hate to say "I told you so", but I fucking told you so.

Jim

[NapalmKev]

Government proposes enquiry to explore the possibility of an end to a free NHS.

I hate to say "I told you so", but I fucking told you so.

Jim

I like to imagine that the 'General Public' will rise up and smash these Clowns into the dirt but the majority of people don't give a Fuck, which itself is a very sad state of affairs.

Cheers

[Old Tankie]

The NHS is not and never has been "free".

[Professor Bear]

The right issue hasn't come along just yet, is all, Kev, but luckily, this lot seem keen to push their luck.

I'm kind of hoping some bright spark at the BBC cottons on that all they have to do is announce that the government is forcing them to stop competing with prime-time channels so they're cutting all their dancing and medical shows.  A few days without Doctors or The Archers and those pensioners won't be Tory voters anymore.

[The Legendary Shark]

All to pay back an imaginary debt to the biggest criminal organisations on the planet. If we are not careful, one day we will wake up as serfs in the lands our forefathers fought and died to keep free. And the saddest part is that, as NapalmKev says, most people don't care. How can they care when economics and banking are so boring while X-Factor and Sport are so exciting? It's like a massive magic trick - look at the sparkly things and on no account pay any attention to the men behind the curtain.
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Truth? We can't handle the truth.

[Hawkmumbler]

I would. The sooner the lot of them are stripped bare to hammer home how corrupt they truely are the better.

[Jim_Campbell]

The NHS is not and never has been "free".

No. But they're talking about funding it through direct insurance and patient payments rather than general taxation with no payment at the point of use.

I understand perfectly well how the NHS works, and your pedantry doesn't change the fact that this government is ideologically committed to ending the NHS as we know it.

As I pointed out, repeatedly, in the run up to the last election.

Jim

[The Legendary Shark]

The enemy is not the immigrants, the Jews, ISIS, Russia, shape-shifting alien lizards or even the politicians.
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Rothschild Too Big To Jail? Russia, Egypt, Iceland, Iran, China, & Hungary Say No!
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ROLLING STONE : ROTHSCHILD CORRUPTION GOES MAINSTREAM
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[The Legendary Shark]

Jim is correct. What most people don't realise is that the problem isn't how things like the NHS, police, roads etc. are paid for but what they are paid for with. To pay for things with actual, honest-to-God money is fine - but to pay for them with debt is madness.

[Old Tankie]

In the Tory manifesto, didn't they pledge to spend an extra £8 billion on the NHS during this parliament?  I don't believe for one second that they will get rid of free at source treatment on the NHS.  Time will tell if either you or I are right.

[Professor Bear]

Yes, but what's the alternative, Falcy?  A fairer system that works better and doesn't unfairly distribute a finite amount of wealth?  No such system exists and never will.

[Jim_Campbell]

In the Tory manifesto, didn't they pledge to spend an extra £8 billion on the NHS during this parliament?  I don't believe for one second that they will get rid of free at source treatment on the NHS.  Time will tell if either you or I are right.

Again: they have said they are ideologically committed to it. They were saying it before the 2010 election. They were briefing private healthcare companies to expect fundamental changes to the NHS, that the NHS would cease to exist as a provider of care and become an umbrella 'brand' under which private companies provided services.

Your faith in Tory manifesto pledges is rather touching, however.

Jim