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Off Topic / Re: “Truth? You can't handle t...
Last post by The Legendary Shark - 08 May, 2024, 10:50:55 PMMaybe so, but you're not having the rest of my bottle...
#2
Prog / Re: Prog 2381: A grizzly fate
Last post by Funt Solo - 08 May, 2024, 10:19:27 PMAnd Cal, and how!
#3
Off Topic / Re: “Truth? You can't handle t...
Last post by Funt Solo - 08 May, 2024, 10:17:06 PMAh, and so we agree!
#4
Off Topic / Re: “Truth? You can't handle t...
Last post by The Legendary Shark - 08 May, 2024, 10:10:21 PMWhen I say "believe in," I actually mean "believe in the legitimacy of." Apologies for my sloppy framing. And please don't take that as a criticism or a sleight; but it is, I suppose, an assumption based on our past conversations so forgive me if I've misjudged. I can say that I will believe in the first government that places as its highest objective and actively protects the sanctity, safety, and freedom of every human life above all other considerations. That government I will be as big a pain in the arse supporting as I am denouncing all the rest.
As for the existence of government, I can only partially agree. In the abstract, it certainly exists in people's minds and on paper, in its pomp and circumstance but, just like a religion or a stage play, it's ultimately just made of people like you and me - no better but, sadly, often far worse. And getting worser all the time. It's the power we give them that corrupts, that allows them to murder and plunder in our name and with our backing, because of some mythical phantom called government, which is neither here nor there, neither one thing or the other, but used to justify the legitimacy of literally anything. So yes, government exists but it's an illusion - it exists in the same way that reflections exist. It's there but you can't touch it, it looks real but it isn't.
Rulers once were gods, until the ruled began to wonder why gods couldn't work miracles as a matter of course. Then rulers claimed to be children or descendants of gods, until the ruled began to wonder why lesser gods couldn't work lesser miracles as a matter of course. The final claim was to be chosen by God somehow, perhaps through winning a battle or being born correctly, until the ruled realised there was no way to actually verify this supposed Divine Contract. So now the rulers are chosen by the people, but they're just as inhumane as ever, so what's the argument against elected rulers? As of this moment, maybe did you vote to support and facilitate genocide?* might be a pertinent beginning.
I see no difference between left wing or right wing, they both keep the same raptor of control flying. One side uses the carrot, the other side uses the stick. That's the global Punch & Judy Show, everyone cheering their team on while the puppeteers' paymasters laugh all the way to the bank - or the ethnically cleansed territory ripe for luxury beachfront developments. I should imagine the democrats are supporting Israel in a much more gentle way, urging it to calm down a bit before things get out of hand, but supporting it nonetheless. There are plenty of democrats on that Pro-Israel Support list.
I don't think the true nature of this monstrous illusion we call government has been more apparent in my lifetime. How many of us, hand on heart, can truly swear that all those dead children are worth it? I certainly can't. When I see a report that the RAF, my RAF, has flown 200 spy missions over Gaza for Israel my anger boils. How dare they? In my name? I denounced the cult of government long ago but it still considers itself my master. I would be willing slave to a good system but not this monstrosity.
Earlier tonight I was watching ++WARNING++TLAV++GRAPHIC CONTENT++, something most of you will dismiss as "conspiracy bollocks," and saw a video out of Gaza of a father trying to tend to his young son in a hospital. The man couldn't even touch his son to comfort him because of the burns on his body. So much horror unfolding right before our eyes; all being obfuscated, misrepresented, supported, excused. In my f*cking name? No. Not ever. I am against these horrors, not only in Gaza but Yemen and all over the world; I am against them with every instinct and formulation, with every breath and every heartbeat, and with every ounce of hyperbolic rhetoric I can muster.
That's my handful of sand. That's how I help to stop it.
What can one soul do in the face of such evil machinations? We can each throw a handful of sand into the gears. This is my handful - annoying you lot. Throw your own handfuls out there. Condemn the genocide. Explain that Judaism is a 3,000 year old religion whereas Zionism is a 150 year old political movement. Understand that many Jews around the world are against Zionism and that not all Zionists are Jews. Shout and moan and bitch and complain to anyone who'll listen: STOP IT! Even if we buy everything about October 7th, we are way beyond self-defence and have been since October 8th. And where, pray, was the Palestinian's right to self-defence for the last seventy five f*cking years? Hidden by our monstrous illusions, that's where.
TL;DR: Yes. About half a bottle so far...
*This is not for one microsecond to suggest that anyone here voluntarily supports the horrendous activities of our own and allied governments throughout the world. The point is that your elected representatives do, and innocents are being slaughtered because of it. One must, in every case, separate the government (or any other prevailing religion of a country) from the people. The one is never synonymous with the other.
As for the existence of government, I can only partially agree. In the abstract, it certainly exists in people's minds and on paper, in its pomp and circumstance but, just like a religion or a stage play, it's ultimately just made of people like you and me - no better but, sadly, often far worse. And getting worser all the time. It's the power we give them that corrupts, that allows them to murder and plunder in our name and with our backing, because of some mythical phantom called government, which is neither here nor there, neither one thing or the other, but used to justify the legitimacy of literally anything. So yes, government exists but it's an illusion - it exists in the same way that reflections exist. It's there but you can't touch it, it looks real but it isn't.
Rulers once were gods, until the ruled began to wonder why gods couldn't work miracles as a matter of course. Then rulers claimed to be children or descendants of gods, until the ruled began to wonder why lesser gods couldn't work lesser miracles as a matter of course. The final claim was to be chosen by God somehow, perhaps through winning a battle or being born correctly, until the ruled realised there was no way to actually verify this supposed Divine Contract. So now the rulers are chosen by the people, but they're just as inhumane as ever, so what's the argument against elected rulers? As of this moment, maybe did you vote to support and facilitate genocide?* might be a pertinent beginning.
I see no difference between left wing or right wing, they both keep the same raptor of control flying. One side uses the carrot, the other side uses the stick. That's the global Punch & Judy Show, everyone cheering their team on while the puppeteers' paymasters laugh all the way to the bank - or the ethnically cleansed territory ripe for luxury beachfront developments. I should imagine the democrats are supporting Israel in a much more gentle way, urging it to calm down a bit before things get out of hand, but supporting it nonetheless. There are plenty of democrats on that Pro-Israel Support list.
I don't think the true nature of this monstrous illusion we call government has been more apparent in my lifetime. How many of us, hand on heart, can truly swear that all those dead children are worth it? I certainly can't. When I see a report that the RAF, my RAF, has flown 200 spy missions over Gaza for Israel my anger boils. How dare they? In my name? I denounced the cult of government long ago but it still considers itself my master. I would be willing slave to a good system but not this monstrosity.
Earlier tonight I was watching ++WARNING++TLAV++GRAPHIC CONTENT++, something most of you will dismiss as "conspiracy bollocks," and saw a video out of Gaza of a father trying to tend to his young son in a hospital. The man couldn't even touch his son to comfort him because of the burns on his body. So much horror unfolding right before our eyes; all being obfuscated, misrepresented, supported, excused. In my f*cking name? No. Not ever. I am against these horrors, not only in Gaza but Yemen and all over the world; I am against them with every instinct and formulation, with every breath and every heartbeat, and with every ounce of hyperbolic rhetoric I can muster.
That's my handful of sand. That's how I help to stop it.
What can one soul do in the face of such evil machinations? We can each throw a handful of sand into the gears. This is my handful - annoying you lot. Throw your own handfuls out there. Condemn the genocide. Explain that Judaism is a 3,000 year old religion whereas Zionism is a 150 year old political movement. Understand that many Jews around the world are against Zionism and that not all Zionists are Jews. Shout and moan and bitch and complain to anyone who'll listen: STOP IT! Even if we buy everything about October 7th, we are way beyond self-defence and have been since October 8th. And where, pray, was the Palestinian's right to self-defence for the last seventy five f*cking years? Hidden by our monstrous illusions, that's where.
TL;DR: Yes. About half a bottle so far...
*This is not for one microsecond to suggest that anyone here voluntarily supports the horrendous activities of our own and allied governments throughout the world. The point is that your elected representatives do, and innocents are being slaughtered because of it. One must, in every case, separate the government (or any other prevailing religion of a country) from the people. The one is never synonymous with the other.
#5
Prog / Re: Prog 2381: A grizzly fate
Last post by Richard - 08 May, 2024, 09:44:42 PMQuoteI have wondered if Moon has to die in order for Logan and Dredd's relationship now to become even more frayed.
I don't want to read another storyline about Dredd having a difficult relationship with another chief judge, we had that already with McGruder and Hershey.
#6
Prog / Re: Prog 2381: A grizzly fate
Last post by JudgeJudi - 08 May, 2024, 09:22:47 PMThey moved away from Dredd is too old for a while because really where can it go? Repetitive stories about being too old or be gets a new clone body.
Overall I was not impressed with the story as the set-up suggested more than what we got and maybe it leads into something else but if it doesn't it's not great.
Overall I was not impressed with the story as the set-up suggested more than what we got and maybe it leads into something else but if it doesn't it's not great.
#7
Music / Re: What's everyone listening ...
Last post by Marbles - 08 May, 2024, 08:42:18 PMSaw The Men They Couldn't Hang at the weekend on their 40th Anniversary tour. Still an excellent live band 👍🏼
#8
Music / Re: What's everyone listening ...
Last post by JayzusB.Christ - 08 May, 2024, 08:33:42 PMJust been going through one of my occasional UK punk phases - UK Subs, The Exploited, Anti-Nowhere League, that kind of thing. Great to see a lot of them are still around and doing gigs, including the Subs' Charlie Harper who is a few months younger than my 80-year-old dad.
And Wattie from The Exploited is still rocking the red mohawk at 66, and generally not looking very much like his real name is Walter.
And Wattie from The Exploited is still rocking the red mohawk at 66, and generally not looking very much like his real name is Walter.
#9
Prog / Re: Prog 2381: A grizzly fate
Last post by IndigoPrime - 08 May, 2024, 08:19:46 PMI don't think any judge should be safe, nor any type of character. I know Wagner has in the past said he wasn't keen on women coming to harm in his strips. That wouldn't really make any sense today. But killing off women to drive the narrative of men is not good. (Not that I'm saying that's what's happened here, note.)
Tight boots was when the doubts crept in. And certainly by the period before Necropolis there had been plenty of references to Dredd getting on a bit. So 35 years later, he must be super creaky.
Tight boots was when the doubts crept in. And certainly by the period before Necropolis there had been plenty of references to Dredd getting on a bit. So 35 years later, he must be super creaky.
#10
Off Topic / Re: RIPs
Last post by JayzusB.Christ - 08 May, 2024, 08:17:32 PMHe was a big part of the scene when I had a clue about music. 61 is way too young. Goodbye, Steve, you'll be missed.