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: Prog 2233:Regened - Ready to face the law?
: Tjm86 22 May, 2021, 11:04:53 AM
This has to be the strongest Regened prog yet.  A roster of top artists and quality writing definitely help.  Bringing out some of the best strips we’ve seen to date for another outing though, that has to be the real treat.

Cadet Dredd continues the exploration of Rico’s steady fall from grace.  Lynch’s artwork has come a long way from the early Orlok stuff and Boswell’s colours bring out the highlights.  Overall a quality outing for the title.  The same can be said for Scott and Davidson’s take on Anderson.  A potential alien invasion, rookie judge and some misdirection all coming together well.

Future Shocks is a nice topical one as Wall-E Expectation introduces the universe to anti-social media.  The punchline is set up well and delivered with aplomb.  For a FS it works quite well which is no small achievement.

Pandora Perfect and Department K round out the prog with two tales that establish the potential longevity of these two strips.  Plenty of slapstick and confusion for the hapless con-artist take on Mary Poppins.  Interesting to see that Department K decided to skip the whole Sliders rip-off.  Interesting to see what McConville has planned for future outings after this.

I think that it is fair to say that this is truly an ‘all-ages’ prog.  It doesn’t try to force the issue as has been the case with some of the earlier ones.  Possibly on balance it is tilted more toward older readers but not excessively so.  It does seem that it is finally finding its voice properly, building on the strengths of Tooth for a new generation of readers.

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: Richard 22 May, 2021, 11:51:53 AM
Do you mean prog 2233?
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: Tjm86 22 May, 2021, 12:07:18 PM
Yes ... :-[ :-[ :-[

...  if someone could amend?

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: Colin YNWA 22 May, 2021, 05:17:35 PM
This has to be the strongest Regened prog yet. 

Well if that's not right its damned close. There are a few things that are done really well and most importantly the main one of those is the stories.

Dredd - just a fantastic Cadet Dredd story Liam Johnson has done bits before, but if I'm honest not enough for me to remember the name (sorry!). I will after this. A story that really gets to the core of Joe and Rico. That is surprising exciting given its basically about a trial and pretty moving as well. Just a great story. I'm also pleasently surprised by how well Jake Lynch's art works here. I love his art, but I wouldn't have immediately thought of him as a Regened artist. I was wrong.

Future Shock is wonderfully effective. I mean its not the most original concept but its very well executed and Tom Newell's art has really raised a level.

Anderson is the only missfire for me - its decent, but horribly rushed. Again though nice art.

Pandora Perfect not quite as brilliant as the first one and exposes a big of a problem about the mischief she gets up to and the consequences it may be felt she has to face. BUT facing her off against David Attenborough, not quite as lovely as he would seem is a stroke of genius. The madcap humour is rich and I just smiled throughout. This strip is still a trumph and one I want to see in every Regened.Oh and the art by Brett Parson is sublime.

Department K works really well too. Its hi-jinks and a great self contained story. I'm a little surprised that what I thought was going to be the central concept - a team of tech Judges cast into dimensions, hopping between them - turns out not to be and is wrapped up here BUT I'm cool with that we have a great cast and I'm excited to see what happens next.

And what happens next is the other thing that Jargo and Tharg get absolutely spot on. Firstly by reseting Department K when it ends we get a fantastic 'Next Prog' advert lo and behold Department K is in it. Of course what's great is the story in this issue feels self contained and wraps up nicely for those that don't read on. For those that do you can. The bridge is built between the Regened and the Prog.

On top of that the line-up for next prog feels inviting for readers here ... or could be. Department K continues. Noam Chimpsky's solo story starts (WAYHEY) and that feels like it could be attractive to the audience carrying through. Feral and Foe I can see having appeal and Dredd, well it depends what Dredd we get. Mechastopheles is a surprise and it didn't make enough impact on me to register whether it will work for an audience moving through. Maybe it will, demon giant robots clashing with monsters gotta have some appeal. I mean we gotta see how the tales next time land, but that advert certainly makes the idea of jumping across feel appealing so that's another tick.

Overall the Regenes really seemed to have found their feet. I've been a big fan of the concept from the off. It took a few issues to get the mix of stories right, but the last three have worked well and I'm optimistic about where all this is going. Fingers crossed the trades do good business.

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: Jacqusie 23 May, 2021, 11:07:53 AM
Whilst I'm glad that the latest Regened prog clearly has it's fans, I have to say that as someone who picked the prog up at age 13 around 30 odd years ago and is heading towards middle age, I'm really not one of them.

I know this has been discussed before, but I'm not quite sure what age range the stories are being pitched at for an "All ages issue" which I think is clearly aimed at children and not teens, who are now pretty much teenagers at 10 years old. I certainly don't think it's for my generation and beyond.

However the stories and art are all neatly produced (I'm a fan of Paul Davidson's work) and I do realise that 2000AD needs to attract a younger audience, but I just wish that these could be specials to buy seperate, or which might be a better plan, we could opt out on the subscription, as I really don't want to have to keep paying for four of these every year.

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: Jim_Campbell 23 May, 2021, 11:22:52 AM
I just wish that these could be specials to buy seperate, or which might be a better plan, we could opt out on the subscription, as I really don't want to have to keep paying for four of these every year.

Do I really have to paste in the history and explanation of why these aren't being done as specials every single time one of these issues comes out?

So. Again. The first Regened issue was planned as a special, but the distributor nixed the idea. Since then, we've had the high street outlets ravaged by covid lockdowns, forcing Rebellion to drastically cut back the number of specials they're doing every year into the bargain. I have no inside info on this, but I imagine Rebellion would love these to be specials — they'd be additional revenue on top of the prog that way, but it's simply impractical in current market conditions.

If we all agree that 2000AD needs to attract new and younger readers, right now the options are this, or nothing. I appreciate that some people would prefer nothing — they pays their money and they're entitled to moan about issues they're not enjoying, but the reasons these issues aren't specials are entirely beyond Rebellion's control.
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: Woolly 23 May, 2021, 11:30:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/j15meKv.jpg)
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: scrotnig 23 May, 2021, 01:08:55 PM
And as we are in groundhog mode, I shall post my regular assertion that, as a 2000ad reader since 1982, and a subscriber of many years standing, I love the regnened progs. So there!
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: Richard 23 May, 2021, 01:38:57 PM
I'm happy with anything that (1) prolongs the life of the comic by expanding its audience and (2) promotes the security of the comic by increasing Rebellion's revenue. It's only four times a year, we get extra pages, and some good stories have come out of it, especially Full Tilt Boogie, which found a well-deserved place in the regular prog.

If the price is a few stories that don't appeal to me, well that can happen in normal progs as well (e.g. Skip Tracer).
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: Tjm86 23 May, 2021, 03:17:38 PM
This is where I come from when it comes to Regened.  There have been countless strips down through the years that have left me cold outside of this project.  What is impressive is how quickly it has found its feet. 

I know that I am one of the 'hardcore fans' / 'ancient readers' that Mills rails against at times and perhaps not the audience that this is fully aimed at.  That said, I am warming more and more to the efforts.  It also gives hope that the prog will still be around as it reaches its 50th anniversary in a few (terrifyingly few ...) years time.
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: Funt Solo 23 May, 2021, 04:28:53 PM
I'd be cheered if we could move on a bit from the argument surrounding the method by which the Regened content is published (because previous threads have really explained the why of the matter quite thoroughly) and focus more on the content itself.

I can entirely appreciate that someone might posit that, say, Flubber (1997) is a pile of pants but that Inside Out (2015) is like Citizen Kane for kids. The key thing is, despite their aim at a younger audience, the former might only appeal to the target but the latter clearly goes wider.

And if all that fails to grab you as an argument - and you're still thinking of the Regened prog as a damp squib - do you really not know someone of a younger generation that you can just give it to? A son, a daughter, a non-binary off-spring? A grand-version of the former? A nephew, a niece, a nibling? Twice or thrice removed? A friend of the family? A charity shop?

2000 AD has given us all these many years of boundless creativity (yes - even Dry Run!), so can we not manage a little in return?

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51f-cnmKHjL._SY445_.jpg) (https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/rich_insideout_header_mobile_ce11b9a6.jpeg)
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: Jim_Campbell 23 May, 2021, 06:10:06 PM
I'd be cheered if we could move on a bit from the argument surrounding the method by which the Regened content is published (because previous threads have really explained the why of the matter quite thoroughly)

I KNOW.
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: Barrington Boots 24 May, 2021, 09:36:57 AM
Mine's just arrived and I have say: +100 points for including a wordsearch.
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: Colin YNWA 24 May, 2021, 10:40:31 AM
Mine's just arrived and I have say: +100 points for including a wordsearch.

They need to make it a 'Spot the Difference' the word search was way to easy and the boy child and I love doing the Spot the Difference in The Phoenix* together, some of which are devilishly tricky.

Oh or another one of those Henry Flint choice your path things that was in the FCDB version - that Planet of Death thingie (can't remember the title) was absolute genius!


*Obligatory reference to The Phoenix when talking about Regened issues happily ticked off!
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: Richard 24 May, 2021, 12:59:23 PM
that Planet of Death thingie (can't remember the title) was absolute genius!
That was great, it should have been given its own strip!
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: MacabreMagpie 24 May, 2021, 02:47:06 PM
Liam Johnson has done bits before, but if I'm honest not enough for me to remember the name (sorry!). I will after this.

Liam was one of the Thought Bubble talent search winners in 2019, he's doing very well!
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: Barrington Boots 24 May, 2021, 03:16:43 PM
My own general wordsearch enthusiasm aside, I think some kind of wordsearch / puzzle might be a good idea for these progs as in my (reasonably narrow, in fairness) experience younger readers love them in stuff like The Phoenix. I'm picturing something that looks really anarchic and eye-catchingly cool though rather than the bland space-filler I see in product branded kids magazines. Probably easier said than done, but...

I know I've had a little gripe before about the necessary evil of Regened, but I've only skimmed the prog and this does look like a stronger one than usual. Will read it later & review.
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: Funt Solo 24 May, 2021, 06:51:45 PM
that Planet of Death thingie (can't remember the title) was absolute genius!
That was great, it should have been given its own strip!

FCBD 8 (2018) / 2000 AD Regened #1

(https://i.imgur.com/38sZLKt.png)
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: broodblik 24 May, 2021, 07:03:01 PM
Cover by Neil Googe and Cary Caldwell:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E10j0ZwWUAANORK?format=jpg&name=large)
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: broodblik 24 May, 2021, 07:03:24 PM
Cover and Logo:

(https://i0.wp.com/www.comicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Screenshot-2021-05-14-00.46.54.png?resize=768%2C999)
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: The Enigmatic Dr X 24 May, 2021, 07:05:40 PM
Over time, I have gone from not liking these, to warming to them, to really enjoying them as a diversion and throwback.

I see there's an ad for a collection. That makes me a little sad. A collection would be a great annual, Viz style.
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: Leigh S 24 May, 2021, 07:53:09 PM
The Dredd was great stuff - not sure about the bucket of water Indiana Jones bit, but otherwise it was a spot on bit of Dredd - get this fellow on the old man version!

The FS was well told, but I'm not sure Social Media needs to be the punchline of everything aimed at kids?

Pandora Perfect was a good read again

Anderson was a bit too generically generic a tale and Dept K just fell flat for me wwhen your protagonists are super efficient wise crackers - the peril evaporates - see Doctor Who

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: Dandontdare 24 May, 2021, 08:58:26 PM
Mine's just arrived and I have say: +100 points for including a wordsearch.

They need to make it a 'Spot the Difference' the word search was way to easy and the boy child and I love doing the Spot the Difference in The Phoenix* together, some of which are devilishly tricky.

Well if you insist... https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47603.0;topicseen (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47603.0;topicseen)

And on-topic I groan when Regened week comes around, but I enjoyed this one far more than the previous ones - the 'juve-appeal' felt less forced
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: IndigoPrime 24 May, 2021, 09:50:45 PM
Strong enough as a Prog, if a mixed bag for me.

Great cover and solid Dredd. Probably the best Cadet Dredd so far. Anderson didn’t click for me though.

I though the Future Shock was fun. That would have worked just as well in the regular Prog. Pandora was entertaining.

Dept K was an odd one. It went in a totally different direction to what I was expecting (Black Science meets MC1) and so I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve read a few episodes of the full run.
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: Richard 24 May, 2021, 10:34:48 PM
Cadet Dredd annoyed me a bit. The point was that "Cadet Dredd broke the law," and we're meant to think that meant Joe, but it turned out to be Rico all along. But when Rico's badge doesn't say Dredd, it doesn't really work. There was one line of dialogue where Rico calls Joe "little brother," but that's the only way you'd know they're brothers (we know that already, but the target audience don't), and even if the reader does pick up on the fact that they're brothers, Rico's name still appears to be Cadet Rico. It undermines the whole point.
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: Barrington Boots 25 May, 2021, 09:54:26 AM
I thought this was a mixed bag.

Strongest Cadet Dredd so far IMO, good little story, the Ant & Dec / Ants & Deck joke on page 1 is the sort of dreadful pun I like.

Future shock was fine although I also feel we've had a few 'social media bad' ones like this lately.

Anderson I didn't rate I'm afraid, generic story removed from the MC1 setting and both Anderson and the cadet had the same jokey 'voice' meaning there was very little to distinguish between them.

Pandora Perfect was the highlight again: anarchic, charming, original rather than 'young version of old character', cool character concepts. If the plan is to have prog runs to enable a full TPB to sell to younger readers, this should be comissioned.

Department K surprisingly didn't enjoy at all. As Leigh said upthread, when the whole team is wisecracking and flawless there's no peril and everyone is annoying. I too was surprised by the change in what we all thought was the concept so we'll see where this leads. What a great first page by PJ Holden though!

I thought the art was really strong throughout.

Best Regened so far imo and it does feel like it's finding it's feet, but as ever I'm writing that from the pov of a grown man with no kids. I'd be interested in how this was received by any actual children?

Looking forward to next week. With the lineup for the next prog having Chimpsky, Mechastopheles and a Regend spinoff all scheduled, it's going to be adored by some elements of the readership
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: Proudhuff 25 May, 2021, 02:43:10 PM
Over time, I have gone from not liking these, to warming to them, to really enjoying them as a diversion and throwback.

I see there's an ad for a collection. That makes me a little sad. A collection would be a great annual, Viz style.

This^^^ but without the spoonfiddling
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: Leigh S 25 May, 2021, 04:45:40 PM
I thnk that's fine - aand Dredd DID break the Law, just Rico did too.

The only bit I thought was slightly off was Joe suspecting Rico - knowing Dredd, he would have gone and blabbed! Better to leave him unsuspecting?



Cadet Dredd annoyed me a bit. The point was that "Cadet Dredd broke the law," and we're meant to think that meant Joe, but it turned out to be Rico all along. But when Rico's badge doesn't say Dredd, it doesn't really work. There was one line of dialogue where Rico calls Joe "little brother," but that's the only way you'd know they're brothers (we know that already, but the target audience don't), and even if the reader does pick up on the fact that they're brothers, Rico's name still appears to be Cadet Rico. It undermines the whole point.
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: Jacqusie 25 May, 2021, 07:46:11 PM
I'd be cheered if we could move on a bit from the argument surrounding the method by which the Regened content is published (because previous threads have really explained the why of the matter quite thoroughly)

I KNOW.


Gosh, fair enough, I get the point, they can't be separate specials, gotcha. Though it must be said that not eveyone has the time to read all these threads so thoroughly, so my apologies for raising a point which I get the impression that you all may have discussed endlessly before.

However my main point was missed entirely, namely that of:

" or which might be a better plan, we could opt out on the subscription, as I really don't want to have to keep paying for four of these every year"...

That means that some folk like yourselves who do want and get them which is great and then some folk who don't want them, dont get them, which is also great.

Then again there is probably a good reason that idea is also not feasable in the grand scheme of things

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: Funt Solo 25 May, 2021, 08:52:00 PM
Right, so your subs choices would be an easy:

 - Megazine monthly
 - Megazine quarterly
 - Megazine yearly
 - Megazine two-yearly

 - 2000 AD monthly
 - 2000 AD quarterly
 - 2000 AD yearly
 - 2000 AD two-yearly
 - 2000 AD minus Regened monthly
 - 2000 AD minus Regened quarterly
 - 2000 AD minus Regened yearly
 - 2000 AD minus Regened two-yearly

 - Combi monthly
 - Combi yearly
 - Combi two-yearly
 - Combi minus Regened monthly
 - Combi minus Regened yearly
 - Combi minus Regened two-yearly

There *might* be a little push-back from someone with some sense of management or promotion in offering something that doesn't include a thing that you're trying to promote. But you could probably distract them by pointing out a window and shouting "look - a two-headed monkey". Try to also include whoever's in charge of subs in that distraction, as well. Apart from those minor issues I think you're onto a winner.

Can I add in some more ideas here...

Megazine minus articles (monthly / quarterly et al)
Megazine minus floppy (as above)
Megazine minus the bits I don't like

2000 AD plus more Wagner minus that rather confusing Future Shock that didn't float my boat.
2000 AD with Ken Niemand's real name in it (monthly sub. only) [Ed. stop this now!]
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: broodblik 26 May, 2021, 04:24:30 AM
A good regen prog. The regen prog has now created some good and interesting new characters.

Cadet Dredd – From all the Cadet Dredd’s I have read this is my favourite. I want to add my voice to Colin’s and I would never had guessed that Jake’s art would suited the regen prog but he delivers a punch.

Shock – This one as already mentioned could have worked in the normal prog as well.  The bets of the regen shockers so far.

Anderson – It was an adequate story not the best but serviceable.

Pandora – As with the first story this is simply great fun, and the artwork is very good.  Langridge and Parson delivers anther winner for the regen prog.

Department K – The story continues from the previous one and it will be the first regen story that flows  directly into the regular prog. The highlight for me was PJ’s art, his art works well, and it is pity that he will not continue art duties (not that anything is wrong with Cornwell’s art). At least we will see him back on Chimpsky. Story-wise it was also a fun over the top story.

Well next week’s prog looks interesting and more light-hearted. Surprise return is Mechastopheles and this is one I ma definitely looking forward too, enjoyed the first full series.
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: broodblik 26 May, 2021, 04:26:48 AM
" or which might be a better plan, we could opt out on the subscription, as I really don't want to have to keep paying for four of these every year"...

You will pay more if you buy the progs individually. So even if you do not like the regen it is still cheaper doing it via a subscription.
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: Link Prime 26 May, 2021, 10:36:00 AM
Another flick through, then direct to bag & board issue for me.
Cya next week pals.  :thumbsup:
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: Bad City Blue 26 May, 2021, 04:46:01 PM
https://comicscene.org/2021/05/26/comicscene-review-2000ad-2233-regened/ (https://comicscene.org/2021/05/26/comicscene-review-2000ad-2233-regened/)
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: Leigh S 26 May, 2021, 05:01:43 PM
If nothing else you are missing a pretty great Dredd that fits perfectly in Wagner/Mills(let's not open that can!) continuity - God knows there's been times in the past where the only decent thing in the prog was Dredd (or one other), and that was week in week out - as it is, this is 3 out of 5 for me, so as decent a hit rate as I expect from my prog...



Another flick through, then direct to bag & board issue for me.
Cya next week pals.  :thumbsup:
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: IndigoPrime 26 May, 2021, 05:10:47 PM
Yeah, with this issue in particular, I can’t see the problem. Dredd would be a perfectly reasonable flashback in the standard Prog. The Future Shock would sit fine in there too. Pandora is a bit of an oddball, but we’ve had other humour strips throughout 2000 AD’s history in the standard Prog. The difference is that most of them weren’t this good. Anderson was a bit flat for me (although far from the worst Anderson I’ve ever read). Dept K is gearing up for the main Prog anyway.
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: Woolly 26 May, 2021, 05:37:17 PM
Another great Regened Prog, thanks Joko Jargo :)

Best thing about Regened for me is that it's free of 2000AD's baggage, in the sense that it's free to follow it's own creative paths instead of trying to 'fit in' with the accepted idea of Prog content.

I've probably not worded that very well, but hopefully you get my gist!
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: Tjm86 26 May, 2021, 05:48:47 PM
Nah, that's a fair point.  Then again one of Tooth's strengths has been a somewhat ambiguous 'creative path' down through the years.  Granted the likes of Dredd has a lot of baggage as a mainstay of the prog but there have been many strips that have carved out their own furrows.

It's also worth reflecting on some of the advantages of building on 'accepted content' though.  A good example here is the superlative Jaegir.  Future War built on a strip that had long since passed its glory days?  It's also worth considering that two of the most-highly-regarded strips in this edition build on old material (Cadet Dredd and Department K).
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: Richard 26 May, 2021, 06:21:05 PM
I thought the Anderson story was perfectly alright, if you remember it's meant for younger readers.
Pandora Perfect made me laugh. This should be in every re-gened.
Department K was better than I was expecting. Apparently it's back next week for a series. Will be interesting to see what direction it goes in next.
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: IndigoPrime 26 May, 2021, 07:06:28 PM
Mm. It’s hard to know where Dept K is going or where it wants to be. I’d assumed Black Science meets Dreddworld was on the cards, with the crew hopping dimensions and having adventures. Instead, it appears that all happened off-panel, between issues and they’re now back in MC-1. The previous episode was intriguing. This one felt like it was blazing back towards the status quo. I guess we’ll see over the coming weeks how it resolves and where it heads.
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: The Corinthian 26 May, 2021, 07:09:01 PM
Pandora Perfect is the kind of strip that I can't imagine could make the leap to the regular prog but is absolutely right for Regened.

I'm a bit sceptical about Department K going weekly but as we're now getting three Dreddworld strips per Prog for the foreseeable, I wonder if they're going to pull another Trifecta on us.
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: Tiplodocus 26 May, 2021, 10:01:43 PM
I right enjoyed that. Cracking cover and Dredd. Pandora and Future Shock also really good. Anderson and Department K serviceable. Would have preferred less Dreddworld. But well done Joko Jargo
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: norton canes 26 May, 2021, 10:48:42 PM
Okay, cards on the table... I wasn't sure whether or not to get this, not being a fan of the Regened progs (or more accurately, recognising I'm not in the target demographic). So I had a peruse in Smiths, and it started well - Lynch on Dredd, perhaps this is worth getting after all - then I saw the wordsearch. And that was it, I bailed.

However, reading the positive comments in the thread here, I think I might reconsider and procure myself a copy.
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: MacabreMagpie 27 May, 2021, 09:14:00 AM
or more accurately, recognising I'm not in the target demographic

How can one be excluded from a target demographic that is explicitly "all ages"?
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: MacabreMagpie 27 May, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
(I kid, of course. But if you enjoyed the first strip then hopefully the rest will do it for you, too. There's some cracking work in there)
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: Tjm86 27 May, 2021, 10:55:05 AM
Mm. It’s hard to know where Dept K is going or where it wants to be. I’d assumed Black Science meets Dreddworld was on the cards, with the crew hopping dimensions and having adventures ...

To be fair that does appear to still be possible.  I'm personally glad that they didn't plump for the Sliders rip-off.  Actually being able to control the dimension-hopping makes for interesting potentialities (dare I say it, alternates?)  Then again, who's to say this is a permanent state of affairs?
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: broodblik 27 May, 2021, 05:19:39 PM
The cover in B/W:

(https://2000ad.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/regen-cover-arrest-b-small-792x1024.jpg)
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: DrJomster 29 May, 2021, 02:10:33 PM
This was an excellent regened prog, I have to say. They’ve been improving as they go along, but we’re really cooking now. A hearty congrats to all involved!
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: Sean SD 31 May, 2021, 11:50:13 AM
My Top 3 for Prog 2233 Regened :)

1st - Cadet Dredd - Loved the colour change when Rico and Dredd were back in their quarters and also next page when there was some snooping around in evidence room. (Cadet Wagner Guilty lol)
2nd - Pandora Perfect - fun strip with plenty more stories to tell
3rd - Anderson Psi Division - You may be clever but Anderson and her Padawan outsmarted you

Future shock was fine but Department K didn't really work for me.

Finder Keeper was fun in previous Regened issues so hope it comes back in the next one
: Re: Prog 2233:Regened - Ready to face the law?
: CalHab 31 May, 2021, 01:11:03 PM
The cover in B/W:


Tharg really needs to be putting a lot more work Neil Googe's way.
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: Magnetica 05 July, 2021, 11:41:26 AM
I have previously cast doubt on the interest of children in 2000AD.

I now take it all back. My eleven year old son has now read the lastest Regened issue and loved it.

Loved it so much he asked me if there were any more. So I have now dug out all the previous Regnened issues and given them to him.

He particularly liked Cadet Dredd, Strontium Dog, Rogue Trooper and Pandora Perfect.

I am planning on weaning him into Full Tilt Boogie and Department K in the full Prog. Plus the current Chimpski story should also be suitable.

So yeah….a big hit…belatedly.
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: CalHab 05 July, 2021, 11:56:39 AM
That's good news! Great to hear that its working with its target audience.

I genuinely think that kids still love comics as much as ever. The trick is to get them into their hands with the right stories and in the right format.
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: IndigoPrime 05 July, 2021, 12:10:13 PM
I genuinely think that kids still love comics as much as ever. The trick is to get them into their hands with the right stories and in the right format.
This. As I’ve said a bunch of times here, few of mini-IP’s friends get comics. Why? Because their parents don’t get them comics. Why? Probably because they never had that habit themselves or just aren’t aware there’s good stuff out there.

Occasionally, people nonetheless make an effort. I might have mentioned here before about a guy I saw in the library pre-COVID, looking confused at the graphic novels section for nippers. He said he didn’t really know about comics but thought his kids should experience them. (I happily recommended a bunch of stuff!) But that’s rare.

All that said, it’s great to hear about one-off stories like this about children enjoying the new Rebellion material. It won’t be for all of them, but I hope it will be for enough of them. Here, mini-IP just turned 7 and so I’d say is probably still a bit young for Regened. Still, she got Chibi Usagi for her birthday and the entire Zita the Spacegirl set. She loves anything by Jamie Smart. ‘My’ Cor/Buster and Tammy/Jinty comics are now in her room, permanently. But much of that is down to me having introduced so many comics to her—and knowing about them in the first place. Newsagents and modern publishing trends have a lot to answer for…

He particularly liked […] Pandora Perfect.
Good call, mini-Magnetica!
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: broodblik 05 July, 2021, 12:31:42 PM
Is it not the principle behind the FCBD concept to get people to start reading comics as well?
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: CalHab 05 July, 2021, 01:16:07 PM
Possibly. The reality of FCBD unfortunately seems to be filling shops with "customers" who are looking to flip rarities and aren't interested in actually buying anything.
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: CalHab 05 July, 2021, 01:25:20 PM
This. As I’ve said a bunch of times here, few of mini-IP’s friends get comics. Why? Because their parents don’t get them comics. Why? Probably because they never had that habit themselves or just aren’t aware there’s good stuff out there.

We pass on bundles of The Beano to my daughter's friends. It's very popular with kids when they actually get the chance to read it. Distribution seems to be the issue. Before we got the subscription (which is excellent) I would only see every third issue or so in our local shop. It just isn't widely available like it used to be.
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: IndigoPrime 05 July, 2021, 01:28:28 PM
Is it not the principle behind the FCBD concept to get people to start reading comics as well?
I wonder how many people outside of the comics sphere even know about that, though—and, for that matter, how many people have an LCS that actually does FCBD. Mine doesn’t.

I personally like FCBD a lot, but I always just grab stuff off of eBay and use the comics as testing grounds for things I might like to buy. (Chibi Usagi was rather delightful last year, and now mini-IP owns the trade.)

We pass on bundles of The Beano to my daughter's friends. It's very popular with kids when they actually get the chance to read it. Distribution seems to be the issue. Before we got the subscription (which is excellent) I would only see every third issue or so in our local shop. It just isn't widely available like it used to be.
Pot luck, I suppose. I’ve only ever once seen The Phoenix in the wild—we had to drive to Reading to get it. No-one should have to drive to Reading. But The Beano can be bought in at least two or three shops in our town centre (pop: ~40k) and also in one of the housing estate supermarkets.

A sub’s a smarter move, mind, with The Beano, not least because you get the thing for half price.