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Started by The Legendary Shark, 09 April, 2010, 03:59:03 PM

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Spikes

I see Mr Nice Guy Pope doesn't really  like gay people after all...   ---  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32316603

ZenArcade

Nor, seemingly, does local NI political luminary Jim Wells, Minister of Health and Assembly Member for the mid sixteenth century. He drew strong inferences that children in same sex families are more liable to abuse. The sad thing is that this will double the pricks vote. Z
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Professor Bear

Quote from: Spikes on 24 April, 2015, 03:55:46 PM
I see Mr Nice Guy Pope doesn't really  like gay people after all...   ---  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32316603

All that's been confirmed is that the Vatican hasn't commented either way, and the media have done some speculation acrobatics to justify it even being a story rather than a lack of one.

Famous Mortimer

It strikes me as a bit like Netanyahu - the best way to win votes (or whatever support Popes rely on) is to tack right and please the "traditionalists", or whatever they're calling bigots these days.

A couple of my friends are standing under the TUSC banner (Trade Union & Socialist Coalition) and although they're very very unlikely to win, there needs to be a group which shows how far right Labour have gone in recent years.

Professor Bear

Sounds like winning isn't important so much as siphoning off votes as a reminder who the fuckers work for.

Quote from: Famous Mortimer on 25 April, 2015, 06:24:22 PM
It strikes me as a bit like Netanyahu - the best way to win votes (or whatever support Popes rely on) is to tack right and please the "traditionalists", or whatever they're calling bigots these days.

Pope Frank has notably been doing the opposite since he was elected, that's why the media want the snubbing of a gay diplomat to be a story so they can return to their usual narrative.

Tiplodocus

Tusc is an interesting one.  To thing that SNP are now actually your best chance of getting anything slightly left leaning shows how far right Scottish Labour have gone. The SNP!

I am beginning to think the best we can hope for is SNP kick Scottish Labour's arse. Scottish Labour become a left of centre party again And show the way to the National Labour party.
Be excellent to each other. And party on!

Ghost MacRoth

Quote from: Tiplodocus on 26 April, 2015, 12:54:02 PM
the best we can hope for is SNP kick Scottish Labour's arse.

Think that's a given.  Would be nice to believe it's give SL a boot up the arse to remind them who they are supposed to be.
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Tiplodocus

My punctuation probably didn't make it clear that this was very much the point I wanted to make.
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Jimmy Baker's Assistant

Quote from: Tiplodocus on 26 April, 2015, 12:54:02 PM
I am beginning to think the best we can hope for is SNP kick Scottish Labour's arse. Scottish Labour become a left of centre party again And show the way to the National Labour party.

Well, if the SNP force Labour to the left they concede the centre ground to either LibDems or Tories. Obviously that wouldn't matter in Scotland at the moment, but in England and Wales it would be worth quite a lot of seats to the ConDems.

My hope is that the inevitable nationalist landslide north of the wall leads directly to a federal UK, with each country accorded the same level of devolution, and the Commons as a federal parliament to deal with UK-wide issues.

The Enigmatic Dr X

As I've said before, it doesn't matter who you vote for, you end up with the Government.

Might as well decide between frying pan and fire.
Lock up your spoons!

Fungus

Quote from: The Enigmatic Dr X on 26 April, 2015, 09:46:31 PM
As I've said before, it doesn't matter who you vote for, you end up with the Government.

Might as well decide between frying pan and fire.

No, I think you should vote according to your conscience.
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Fungus


Definitely Not Mister Pops

You may quote me on that.

The Legendary Shark

You're right, Fungus, it's not helpful at all. Fixing this idiocy is the Best Thing any government could possibly do.
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