ok so I wright fan fichion which is spelt better than my posts on here XD
ok so I just woke up and had a crossover story idea (this is how I come up with a lot of my ideas) but I know I'm not super berilent on my Judge Dredd knolage so I would like to pick some of your brains to see if it would work.
like would dredd's peak of phickil fitness be after the dark judges, if so when would you say it was?
I know the dark judges have dimechion hoped has it happened any other times?
is there avage amount of ammo judges carrie?
I know theres med judges but do judges normal judges have good medickl train?qing or is it just basick patch work so they can patch themselves up?
is the Arbitrator and lawrod cannon to the comics?
more qustions to come based on the awansers
I'm not being deliberately vague when I say that you can just decide the answers to all of these questions based on how well it would fit the narrative of your story.
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 21 November, 2018, 03:11:30 AM
1/ Would Dredd's peak of physical fitness be after the Dark Judges. If so, when would you say it was?
2/ I know the dark judges have dimension hopped. Has it happened any other times?
3/ Is there an average amount of ammo judges carry?
4/ Do judges normal judges have good medical training? Or is it just basic knowledge, so they can patch themselves up?
5/ Are the Arbitrator and Lawrod cannon to the comics?
1/ Dredd could have claimed to be in great physical health any time between the first appearance of the Dark Judges and
Necropolis.
2/ We know nothing of the Dark Judges before their arrival in MC1. They could have gone anywhere and done anything. After they meet Dredd, they're imprisoned in MC1 for most of that time.
3/ Judges carry as much ammo as the writer needs to tell their story.
4/ Judges know whatever the writer needs them to know in order to tell their story.
5/ I've never read about the Arbitrator in the comics, but writers introduce technology when they need it. The Lawrod's been on the side of Dredd's bike since the first image of the first story: https://i.imgur.com/CmQhAFV.jpg
Good luck with your story.
Quote from: Frank on 21 November, 2018, 08:52:39 AM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 21 November, 2018, 03:11:30 AM
1/ Would Dredd's peak of physical fitness be after the Dark Judges. If so, when would you say it was?
2/ I know the dark judges have dimension hopped. Has it happened any other times?
3/ Is there an average amount of ammo judges carry?
4/ Do judges normal judges have good medical training? Or is it just basic knowledge, so they can patch themselves up?
5/ Are the Arbitrator and Lawrod cannon to the comics?
1/ Dredd could have claimed to be in great physical health any time between the first appearance of the Dark Judges and Necropolis.
2/ We know nothing of the Dark Judges before their arrival in MC1. They could have gone anywhere and done anything. After they meet Dredd, they're imprisoned in MC1 for most of that time.
3/ Judges carry as much ammo as the writer needs to tell their story.
4/ Judges know whatever the writer needs them to know in order to tell their story.
5/ I've never read about the Arbitrator in the comics, but writers introduce technology when they need it. The Lawrod's been on the side of Dredd's bike since the first image of the first story: https://i.imgur.com/CmQhAFV.jpg
Good luck with your story.
thanks
hmmmm I guess I worded 2 wrong what i want to know is has any one elses used dimenchion hoping teck thats not perviousily owened by the dark judges
follow up to 1 and 3 what was the dirfince betwen the mark 1 and 2 lawgiver and round what time did it switch?
new qustion I know vegalinties are against the law in the meg but whats the concensus on law enforcement / peace keepers from outher places acting in mega city one?
Quote from: Frank on 21 November, 2018, 08:52:39 AM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 21 November, 2018, 03:11:30 AM
2/ I know the dark judges have dimension hopped. Has it happened any other times?
2/ We know nothing of the Dark Judges before their arrival in MC1. They could have gone anywhere and done anything. After they meet Dredd, they're imprisoned in MC1 for most of that time.
I seem to remember the Dark Judges make an interesting leap to a different dimension in last year's New Scientist Christmas issue. Perhaps not the easiest story to track down (mine was lost in a tragic red wine incident).
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 21 November, 2018, 09:52:11 AM
hmmmm I guess I worded 2 wrong what i want to know is has any one elses used dimenchion hoping teck thats not perviousily owened by the dark judges
follow up to 1 and 3 what was the dirfince betwen the mark 1 and 2 lawgiver and round what time did it switch?
new qustion I know vegalinties are against the law in the meg but whats the concensus on law enforcement / peace keepers from outher places acting in mega city one?
East Meg 1 used dimension tech during
The Apocalypse War.
Necropolis and the (rubbish) Garth Ennis story
Helter Skelter involved MC1's efforts to develop the same capability by studying Dark Judge tech.
The second Lawgiver has a stun function (https://i.imgur.com/O4OMUeT.jpg). Not much difference other than that.
Dredd's been shown working alongside visiting judges, but they exercise their power at the discretion of the Chief Judge. The Megazine story
Texas City Sting shows a Texas City Deputy CJ refusing to let Dredd operate as a visiting judge, so there's room for you to take whatever angle you like.
Quote from: Frank on 21 November, 2018, 10:14:38 AM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 21 November, 2018, 09:52:11 AM
hmmmm I guess I worded 2 wrong what i want to know is has any one elses used dimenchion hoping teck thats not perviousily owened by the dark judges
follow up to 1 and 3 what was the dirfince betwen the mark 1 and 2 lawgiver and round what time did it switch?
new qustion I know vegalinties are against the law in the meg but whats the concensus on law enforcement / peace keepers from outher places acting in mega city one?
East Meg 1 used dimension tech during The Apocalypse War. Necropolis and the (rubbish) Garth Ennis story Helter Skelter involved MC1's efforts to develop the same capability by studying Dark Judge tech.
The second Lawgiver has a stun function (https://i.imgur.com/O4OMUeT.jpg). Not much difference other than that.
Dredd's been shown working alongside visiting judges, but they exercise their power at the discretion of the Chief Judge. The Megazine story Texas City Sting shows a Texas City Deputy CJ refusing to let Dredd operate as a visiting judge, so there's room for you to take whatever angle you like.
who was the chife judge after the apokolapse war
so it would tenickly be posible for a civilon to end up with a demichion hopper
ok so outher judges have worked in the meg what about lawenforcment from outher worlds?
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 21 November, 2018, 11:14:47 AM
who was the chife judge after the apokolapse war
so it would tenickly be posible for a civilon to end up with a demichion hopper
ok so outher judges have worked in the meg what about lawenforcment from outher worlds?
McGruder
Only governments have been shown having access to that kind of tech, but billionaires like Bezos and Musk are doing what only governments could do until a few years ago, so why not.
I can't think of alien cops working in MC1. Trapper Hag showed up saying he was a bonded agent collecting convicted criminals; Dredd's line (https://i.imgur.com/uN2PwPg.jpg) was that nobody operates in MC1 without the CJ's authorisation. Same with Johnny Alpha (https://i.imgur.com/CixFQyh.jpg).
Quote from: Frank on 21 November, 2018, 11:28:25 AM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 21 November, 2018, 11:14:47 AM
who was the chife judge after the apokolapse war
so it would tenickly be posible for a civilon to end up with a demichion hopper
ok so outher judges have worked in the meg what about lawenforcment from outher worlds?
McGruder
Only governments have been shown having access to that kind of tech, but billionaires like Bezos and Musk are doing what only governments could do until a few years ago, so why not.
I can't think of alien cops working in MC1. Trapper Hag showed up saying he was a bonded agent collecting convicted criminals; Dredd's line (https://i.imgur.com/uN2PwPg.jpg) was that nobody operates in MC1 without the CJ's authorisation. Same with Johnny Alpha (https://i.imgur.com/CixFQyh.jpg).
Also the Law Lords, who have made appearances in two stories (one at Lawcon, the other a few years back).
Quote from: sheridan on 21 November, 2018, 04:28:21 PM
Quote from: Frank on 21 November, 2018, 11:28:25 AM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 21 November, 2018, 11:14:47 AM
ok so outher judges have worked in the meg what about lawenforcment from outher worlds?
I can't think of alien cops working in MC1. Trapper Hag showed up saying he was a bonded agent collecting convicted criminals; Dredd's line (https://i.imgur.com/uN2PwPg.jpg) was that nobody operates in MC1 without the CJ's authorisation. Same with Johnny Alpha (https://i.imgur.com/CixFQyh.jpg).
Also the Law Lords, who have made appearances in two stories (one at Lawcon, the other a few years back).
I may have misunderstood (again), but my impression is that
Cyberleader was asking if any judges from other territories had been allowed to practice law in MC1.
The Lawlords staged a (very brief) coup from orbit*, but never actually set foot in MC1.
* Cascade, by Carroll & Marshall (1984 - 1899)
Quote from: Frank on 21 November, 2018, 08:52:39 AM
5/ I've never read about the Arbitrator in the comics, but writers introduce technology when they need it. The Lawrod's been on the side of Dredd's bike since the first image of the first story: https://i.imgur.com/CmQhAFV.jpg
Good luck with your story.
I seem to remember Judgement Day introducing the 'Colt Widowmaker' as a replacement for the outdated Lawrod. I don't think it's been heard of again, which is fortunate as it sounds silly and (if you'll forgive me for being a virtue-signalling SJW) sexist. I think Garth even decided that the Lawgiver was a Colt product too.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 21 November, 2018, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: Frank on 21 November, 2018, 08:52:39 AM
5/ I've never read about the Arbitrator in the comics, but writers introduce technology when they need it. The Lawrod's been on the side of Dredd's bike since the first image of the first story: https://i.imgur.com/CmQhAFV.jpg
Good luck with your story.
I seem to remember Judgement Day introducing the 'Colt Widowmaker' as a replacement for the outdated Lawrod. I don't think it's been heard of again, which is fortunate as it sounds silly and (if you'll forgive me for being a virtue-signalling SJW) sexist. I think Garth even decided that the Lawgiver was a Colt product too.
ok so how many outher wepons have justas deparment ishued judges?
Jesus Christ, learn to fucking spell.
Ahh Richard, it's just another form of creativity, and Cyberleader is the maestro of this artform. That last sentence alone, a new thing under the sun!
Cyberleader2000's talent entered fan-lore and made the prog – not many can claim that prize.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 22 November, 2018, 12:58:19 AM
Cyberleader2000's talent entered fan-lore and made the prog – not many can claim that prize.
when did that happen again?
Quote from: Richard on 22 November, 2018, 12:32:01 AM
Jesus Christ, learn to fucking spell.
Sure 'n' that'll fix things. OR
I bet he's never heard that before. OR
Would you take that tone with PJ Maybe?
That reminds me ... did you hear the one about the dyslexic devil worshiper? He sold his soul to Santa.
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On topic: in emergencies, the stub gun has been issued to Justice Department personnel. Cuts through anything, but has a tendency to explode.
BTW, I believe one instance of Cyberleader's linguistic validation can be found in Prog 1682, an episode of The Talented Mayor Ambrose, courtesy of the great MacNeil (along with shout-outs to Roger Godpleton, Commando Forces and others). So not to be sneezed at!
There was a rumour 'Arsom' also featured in the Dredd movie alongside classic appearances like Goaty and Joe Soap's avatar, but I don't remember if I ever saw it.
Quote from: TordelBack on 22 November, 2018, 02:50:45 AM
BTW, I believe one instance of Cyberleader's linguistic validation can be found in Prog 1682, an episode of The Talented Mayor Ambrose, courtesy of the great MacNeil (along with shout-outs to Roger Godpleton, Commando Forces and others). So not to be sneezed at!
I love Colin MacNeil. I love
Tour Of Duty. I miss Godpleton:
(https://i.imgur.com/YMQu8NG.jpg?2)
Quote from: Richard on 22 November, 2018, 12:32:01 AM
Jesus Christ, learn to fucking spell.
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Quote from: Frank on 22 November, 2018, 07:20:12 AM
Quote from: TordelBack on 22 November, 2018, 02:50:45 AM
BTW, I believe one instance of Cyberleader's linguistic validation can be found in Prog 1682, an episode of The Talented Mayor Ambrose, courtesy of the great MacNeil (along with shout-outs to Roger Godpleton, Commando Forces and others). So not to be sneezed at!
I love Colin MacNeil. I love Tour Of Duty. I miss Godpleton:
(https://i.imgur.com/YMQu8NG.jpg?2)
what happened to Godpleton?
He worked hard to get himself banned through the medium of gross images, let's put it that way. Little did we know he was just sharing preview pages from Infestinauts!
He showed us a photo of Goaty yawning. Something like that,anyway.
I seem to remember Tharg mentioning 'arsom' in the Nerve Centre too.
Squaxxdom's number one Pynchon fan observed that Bane's mask resembles clawed fingers stretching an anus to improbable width.
This was not the image he chose to illustrate his point:
(https://cdn.thisiswhyimbroke.com/images/voice-changing-bane-mask-300x250.jpg)
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 22 November, 2018, 09:05:47 PM
He showed us a photo of Goaty yawning. Something like that,anyway.
I seem to remember Tharg mentioning 'arsom' in the Nerve Centre too.
dont sopose any ones going to of that arsom.
Quote from: Frank on 22 November, 2018, 09:13:31 PM
Squaxxdom's number one Pynchon fan observed that Bane's mask resembles clawed fingers stretching an anus to improbable width.
This was not the image he chose to illustrate his point:
(https://cdn.thisiswhyimbroke.com/images/voice-changing-bane-mask-300x250.jpg)
Now having flashbacks to poor oblivious Riz Lateef showcasing 2012 Olympics logos that viewers sent in, with one of them being pretty much that.
At least it's usurped the Gallery music from association with the Deerhunter for me.
I might of fucked up justas depearment did not have the dark judges imprisioned till after nacroplis right?
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 25 November, 2018, 11:04:20 PM
I might of fucked up justas depearment did not have the dark judges imprisioned till after nacroplis right?
Judge Death was imprisoned at the end of his first appearance.
The Dark Judges showed up to free him in the sequel, then ended up imprisoned alongside him.
Anderson was tricked into freeing them in her first solo story, but they ended up back in the bottle at the end of that, too.
Then they were freed for
Necropolis. Three of them were captured at the end of that story, but Judge Death escaped to go on his own wee series of adventures for the next 20 years while his pals stayed locked up.
Quote from: Frank on 25 November, 2018, 11:18:45 PM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 25 November, 2018, 11:04:20 PM
I might of fucked up justas depearment did not have the dark judges imprisioned till after nacroplis right?
Anderson was tricked into freeing them in her first solo story, but they ended up back in the bottle at the end of that, too.
They're not imprisoned as such at the end of that story but banished to a random limbo dimension (that [spoiler]Kraken[/spoiler] later brings them back from).
++SPOILERS++
Oh, now I remember: Kraken is the ex-Judda, right? So Dolman is ... just a Dredd clone? I've gotten so mixed up with Dredd clones.
So, there's Dredd and Rico to start with. Rico gets killed.
Then later there's Kraken, who gets killed.
Then later there's Rico II. And Dolman? And the female one. (Maybe I need to re-read everything after Necropolis.)
Kraken is a clone of Fargo, produced by Judd, who created Joe and Rico Snr in the first place, and gave them the Double Ds, so to speak. Any alterations seem to be in the gestational phase, rather than in the genome
Rico Jr and Dolman are clones of Dredd himself.Nimrod appears to be a substantial altered clone of Fargo, along the lines of Armon Gill.
Paris can't be a clone of Dredd or Fargo because that's not how cloning works. Her DNA must have been altered in some way to produce a female 'clone'. Her kid is sort-of Dredd's kid.
after case files 14 which books have dark judges stories I think I should recap my dark judge knolage befor I keep going with my story.
so many clones I really need to catch up on classic dredd
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 26 November, 2018, 01:02:01 AM
after case files 14 which books have dark judges stories
http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=DEATH
Quote from: Frank on 26 November, 2018, 06:45:36 AM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 26 November, 2018, 01:02:01 AM
after case files 14 which books have dark judges stories
http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=DEATH
hmmmm not many are in the case files
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 26 November, 2018, 09:30:31 AM
Quote from: Frank on 26 November, 2018, 06:45:36 AM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 26 November, 2018, 01:02:01 AM
after case files 14 which books have dark judges stories
http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=DEATH
hmmmm not many are in the case files
Poor Barney's just quite out-of-date is all. After
Theatre of Death in CF15, Judge Death: The True Story is in CF22,
Dead Reckoning's in CF25,
Death Becomes Him is CF29 and
A Night with Judge Death is CF30(I think?).
You've also got
Three Amigos in CF23, of course.
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 26 November, 2018, 09:38:42 AM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 26 November, 2018, 09:30:31 AM
Quote from: Frank on 26 November, 2018, 06:45:36 AM
Quote from: Cyberleader2000 on 26 November, 2018, 01:02:01 AM
after case files 14 which books have dark judges stories
http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&Comic=2000AD&choice=DEATH
hmmmm not many are in the case files
Poor Barney's just quite out-of-date is all. After Theatre of Death in CF15, Judge Death: The True Story is in CF22, Dead Reckoning's in CF25, Death Becomes Him is CF29 and A Night with Judge Death is CF30(I think?).
You've also got Three Amigos in CF23, of course.
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Quote from: Funt Solo on 25 November, 2018, 11:56:01 PM
++SPOILERS++
Oh, now I remember: Kraken is the ex-Judda, right? So Dolman is ... just a Dredd clone? I've gotten so mixed up with Dredd clones.
So, there's Dredd and Rico to start with. Rico gets killed.
Then later there's Kraken, who gets killed.
Then later there's Rico II. And Dolman? And the female one. (Maybe I need to re-read everything after Necropolis.)
Technically they're all Fargo clones, but same difference...
As nobody else has pointed it out - the end of Judge Death Lives (first appearance of the other three Dark Judges) left them free but body-less, having been pummelled by the souls of their Deadworld victims.
Quote from: sheridan on 26 November, 2018, 12:54:17 PM
As nobody else has pointed it out - the end of Judge Death Lives (first appearance of the other three Dark Judges) left them free but body-less, having been pummelled by the souls of their Deadworld victims.
Indeed. It's Anderson's foolish return to Deadworld that lets their spirits back to MC-1, and she creates new bodies for them while possessed. At the end of that visit Anderson turning their dimension jumps against them means they are left in a dimensional limbo, with Death and Fear disembodied again but Fire and Mortis more-or-less intact. By the time Dr Munn and Kraken retrieve them from the limbo dimension in
Necropolis Death and Fear have new bodies, but it's not explained how.
Good points*
I interpreted Cyberleader's question about imprisonment as asking whether they were available, but I suppose if his epic centres upon Walter The Wobot accidentally knocking out the plug at the Dark Judge Containment Facility while hoovering, the distinction between locked in the jug or kicking it in limbo is important.
* Apart from the clone family tree - are we deliberately trying to confuse and drive away the only member of the board with body parts still young and fresh enough to harvest for spares when we all start having bad falls and taking queer turns?
ok so with out reveling the plot to much
citizen working in govoment lab borrows protype demichion hoper hopeing to get a uniquick elemt from the universes im crossing over with and sell it on the black market and return the device befor anyone sees its missing but due to it being a prototype it gets the quardints off a bit and he ends up in basickily the villons HQ they torcher him for infomachion on the device and his home universes the leader sends one of her lutenits to retrive the dark judges from there imporisimont and forms a deal with them to free them and give them bodys and anouther thing that if i say you will get what the cross over is but in return they help her get the items shes after as both patries have similer goals.
thats the first chapter plan in a nut schell.