McMahon "swipes"

[BPP]

somewhere out there there is a very good 'swipe files' showing Ian Kennedy using tracing paper on a McMahon Dredd. So at least he had taste.

[Staz Johnson]

somewhere out there there is a very good 'swipe files' showing Ian Kennedy using tracing paper on a McMahon Dredd. So at least he had taste.

When you're new to a strip, most artist borrow from what has gone before if you're not entirely familiar with the strip. Whenever I've done a 'fill in' issue of an American comic I have HAD to do that, simply because I don't make a habit of reading them on a regular basis.Considering that Ian Kennedy went from drawing ww2 strips for Commando, straight into the sci-fi world of Dredd & did such a bang up job, I can forgive him a little borrowing.

[sigu]

somewhere out there there is a very good 'swipe files' showing Ian Kennedy using tracing paper on a McMahon Dredd. So at least he had taste.

Here's an Ian Kennedy Dredd from 'Swipe or Coincidence?', a short lived feature on the old McMahon fan site:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe.htm

And one by Cam Kennedy:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe1.htm

By the way, the voting form on that site is kaput now.

SiGu

[JOE SOAP]

somewhere out there there is a very good 'swipe files' showing Ian Kennedy using tracing paper on a McMahon Dredd. So at least he had taste.

Here's an Ian Kennedy Dredd from 'Swipe or Coincidence?', a short lived feature on the old McMahon fan site:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe.htm

And one by Cam Kennedy:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe1.htm

I'd argue that the otherwise wonderful José Oritz swiped that McMahon drawing too in a rare episode of Dredd he did in prog 517:






...but none of these boyos belong in a worst art thread.

[Jedit]

Here's an Ian Kennedy Dredd from 'Swipe or Coincidence?', a short lived feature on the old McMahon fan site:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe.htm

And one by Cam Kennedy:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe1.htm

There's no way that either of those pictures was used for anything more than basic pose reference.  Does McMahon think he can copyright how someone sits on a motorbike, or something?

[Jim_Campbell]

There's no way that either of those pictures was used for anything more than basic pose reference.  Does McMahon think he can copyright how someone sits on a motorbike, or something?

It's not an official site, so McMahon's not saying anything. I think it's clear that Cam had Mick's illustration in mind, but I think it's equally clear that he produced the image shown without slavishly copying the original. In artistic circles, I think that's regarded as perfectly acceptable.

Cheers

Jim

[JOE SOAP]

Here's an Ian Kennedy Dredd from 'Swipe or Coincidence?', a short lived feature on the old McMahon fan site:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe.htm

And one by Cam Kennedy:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe1.htm

There's no way that either of those pictures was used for anything more than basic pose reference.  Does McMahon think he can copyright how someone sits on a motorbike, or something?

Swipe files are rarely a litigious thing but a bit of fun that shows how artists influence each other, unless it's blatant art rip-offs such as Brian Bollands recent case with Icelandic artist Erró.

[Emperor]

There's no way that either of those pictures was used for anything more than basic pose reference.  Does McMahon think he can copyright how someone sits on a motorbike, or something?

It's not an official site, so McMahon's not saying anything. I think it's clear that Cam had Mick's illustration in mind, but I think it's equally clear that he produced the image shown without slavishly copying the original. In artistic circles, I think that's regarded as perfectly acceptable.

Also it might say something about the comics production conveyor belt back in the day - Dredd artists were often told to make their work look like McMahon's to get a more consistent feel to the series. I do wonder how big an influence adding the credits on a story where for giving the artists room to use their own distinctive styles.

So it wouldn't be a surprise to find out they were given files of reference material containing iconic poses or even that they were told "we want it like this."

[Emperor]

somewhere out there there is a very good 'swipe files' showing Ian Kennedy using tracing paper on a McMahon Dredd. So at least he had taste.

Here's an Ian Kennedy Dredd from 'Swipe or Coincidence?', a short lived feature on the old McMahon fan site:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe.htm

And one by Cam Kennedy:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe1.htm

I'd argue that the otherwise wonderful José Oritz swiped that McMahon drawing too in a rare episode of Dredd he did in prog 517:



...but none of these boyos belong in a worst art thread.

And you get a namecheck here:

www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/08/swipe-file-mike-mcmahons-dredd-and-everybody-elses/

[Banners]

www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/08/swipe-file-mike-mcmahons-dredd-and-everybody-elses/

You'd think Rich would say "Hello" on here some time...

;-)

M@

[brendan1]

www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/08/swipe-file-mike-mcmahons-dredd-and-everybody-elses/

You'd think Rich would say "Hello" on here some time...

;-)

M@

He's too busy posting poorly-received comic/ film gossip on popbitch1
(Hi Rich, if yer reading).

[JOE SOAP]

And you get a namecheck here:

www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/08/swipe-file-mike-mcmahons-dredd-and-everybody-elses/

Nice, look at me Ma!

[pauljholden]

somewhere out there there is a very good 'swipe files' showing Ian Kennedy using tracing paper on a McMahon Dredd. So at least he had taste.

Here's an Ian Kennedy Dredd from 'Swipe or Coincidence?', a short lived feature on the old McMahon fan site:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe.htm

And one by Cam Kennedy:
http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/stf/swipe1.htm

I'd argue that the otherwise wonderful José Oritz swiped that McMahon drawing too in a rare episode of Dredd he did in prog 517:



...but none of these boyos belong in a worst art thread.

And you get a namecheck here:

www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/08/swipe-file-mike-mcmahons-dredd-and-everybody-elses/

While digging up art to take part in the current 'Influence' art meme, I was looking for some Brett Ewin's art (I remember his Rogue being something I greatly loved at the time)

Anyhue, I discovered this:

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=108857&GSub=10042

It wouldn't surprise me a great deal, if, at the time, the 2000Ad editorial put out certain poses and expected artists to use/reuse them.

-pj
(ps ditto, this doesn't belong in a worst art thread...)

[Emperor]

Good find!

(ps ditto, this doesn't belong in a worst art thread...)

you are right it doesn't fit, I can split it off - any preference for the name?

[brendan1]

Cam was quite obviously a McMahon-type artist on Dredd, style-wise. As that pic shows. But he's bloody marvellous anyway.